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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: El Diablo Blanco on January 23, 2012, 07:41:15 AM
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As much as I hate the howdy doody (since I'm a Chargers fan). This fucker is way better than Peyton. Peyton couldn't have taken 1/2 the beating Eli did last night without melting down like the over priviledged ass he is.
Manning gets his ass beat and still stands there without worries throwing darts. Fucker is a baller for sure.
Either way. NE is winning. The NFL already had this planned. NE will get revenge from their loss. Robert Kraft who they give credit to for ending the lockout will get his prize for his hard work and it will be a gift to cheer him up for losing his wife. This script was writen back in September.
The fact that the loser on SF fumbled twice in a close game to give NY the win was setup. You really think the ball bounced off his knee and he had no idea? Then Baltimore with a timeout, rushing their team on the field and trying a totally unorganized field goal to lose the game. All scripted. This shit is worse than the WWE.
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Also Lee Evans dropping the game-winning touchdown in his dainty, estrogenic hands after a Patriot defender stared at him crosseyed.
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Get the fuck out with this shit. Look at their body of work. Nuff said. The only thing Eli is, is more clutch I'll give him that. Payton is considered top 3 of ALL TIME. Eli isnt even top 20...hahahahhahahha.Clea rly you know nothing about football or you have alzheimers or amnezia
Oh yeah, and New England will win cause they are the better and more driven team...Fuck New York. TOM BRADY, TOM BRADY, TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!
You sound like G-String with this NFL conspiracy bullshit. ::) ::) ::)
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AHAHAHAAH!!! "The NFL already had this planned."
You're gonna have to change that username.
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Eli is really starting to put together a pretty damn impressive postseason record but c'mon just look what Indy did this year without Peyton.
Could the same have been said of little Eli?
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haha I love these guys that say it's fixed to sound cool and in the know. Yeah, Williams and the Giants punter practiced that play all week in an underground bunker in Area 51.
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you put peyton in NYG from day 1 and they're 14-2 and also in the super bowl.
look how bad indy is without peyton. you plug in a sanchise is NYG, and they're sitll deep in playoffs.
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Yeah Peyton is a lot better. You could argue he's the best QB ever without sounding like too much of an idiot. Not so for Eli. I do think Eli is underrated though.
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Yeah Peyton is a lot better. You could argue he's the best QB ever without sounding like too much of an idiot. Not so for Eli. I do think Eli is underrated though.
Eli is better.
Hulkotron, I'm Calling For A Truce
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haha I love these guys that say it's fixed to sound cool and in the know. Yeah, Williams and the Giants punter practiced that play all week in an underground bunker in Area 51.
LOL, Yeah some of these clowns believe every game is a fully choreographed 3 hour play set on a 100 yd by 50 yd stage.
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Eli is better.
Hulkotron, I'm Calling For A Truce
explain your reasoning or STFU.
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you plug in a sanchise is NYG, and they're sitll deep in playoffs.
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explain your reasoning or STFU.
It was a joke, only a retard thinks Eli is better. And watch your fingers when you type to me...there's more than one guy with a one punch policy around here.
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explain your reasoning or STFU.
Eli is a beast. Took a fucking beating and kept on ticking. I've seen Peyton melt down like Disturbia after taking a few hits. Eli can actually more as well. Not some fucking statue.
Give me a break about the Colts sucking. Last time I checked the QB is not responisble for allowing a team to score 62 points on them. The fact is the team sucked.
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colts defense was built to stop the pass - since they were usually enjoying a big lead so the other team couldn't afford a running game.
now the colts O sucks... so they get in a 10-0 deficit early. Then the other team runs to milk the clock, which the colts D isn't drafted and built to stop.
peyton won MVP this year.
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Get the fuck out with this shit. Look at their body of work. Nuff said. The only thing Eli is, is more clutch I'll give him that. Payton is considered top 3 of ALL TIME. Eli isnt even top 20...hahahahhahahha.Clea rly you know nothing about football or you have alzheimers or amnezia
Oh yeah, and New England will win cause they are the better and more driven team...Fuck New York. TOM BRADY, TOM BRADY, TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!
You sound like G-String with this NFL conspiracy bullshit. ::) ::) ::)
Pats will get thrashed. No 87 is out.. its over
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Pats will get thrashed. No 87 is out.. its over
I don't think hes done. He came back last night and he has 2 weeks to rest.
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Eli is a beast. Took a fucking beating and kept on ticking. I've seen Peyton melt down like Disturbia after taking a few hits. Eli can actually more as well. Not some fucking statue.
Give me a break about the Colts sucking. Last time I checked the QB is not responisble for allowing a team to score 62 points on them. The fact is the team sucked.
You answered my wrong comment fella. You need to answer the long one I addressed towards to you...LIke I said Eli is more Clutch, Payton is cleary a better player.
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I think eventually Eli will have more superbowl victories than Peyton.
But Eli will never come close to throwing as many touchdown passes per season as Peyton
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It was a joke, only a retard thinks Eli is better. And watch your fingers when you type to me...there's more than one guy with a one punch policy around here.
You watch your mouth you commie sympathizing square head loving nimcumpoot >:(
You should be begging me for forgiveness and mercy.
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Get the fuck out with this shit. Look at their body of work. Nuff said. The only thing Eli is, is more clutch I'll give him that. Payton is considered top 3 of ALL TIME. Eli isnt even top 20...hahahahhahahha.Clea rly you know nothing about football or you have alzheimers or amnezia
Oh yeah, and New England will win cause they are the better and more driven team...Fuck New York. TOM BRADY, TOM BRADY, TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!
You sound like G-String with this NFL conspiracy bullshit. ::) ::) ::)
This is a dumb statement.
Unitas
Starr
Montana
Brady
All better than Peyton.
Peyton hurts himself by having 10 post season losses. Statistics are nice and well and all that, but franchises are defined by Superbowls and I'll take a QB who brings me Superbowls.
Eli is one of the youngest QB's in the league with a solid young receiving core. If he wins this year he will have 2 rings and either way if he does or doesn't, he has plenty of time. He get's the job done and his statistics and playing ability are improving each year. Eli is an elite QB and will be regarded as better than Peyton when his career is over.
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It was a joke, only a retard thinks Eli is better. And watch your fingers when you type to me...there's more than one guy with a one punch policy around here.
lol
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Eli attends the Manning Quarterback Camp. That has helped him a great deal.
Then only thing pre-planned is San Francisco's juiced players.
a little too obvious....
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Wiggs. Even Peyton has said that Eli is and going to better than him. That Eli was ahead of the QB curve.
I hate Eli. Can't stand him but the guy is solid as fuck. The beating he took in the fourth would have made Peyton cry. I've seen it where Peyton gets sacked a couple times and breaks down, but Eli didn't flinch.
Being clutch means BETTER. He is the most clutch guy.
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I think every one including the stupid fucks on ESPN are over looking a huge fact about ELI.
CRUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
That mother fucker is a beast and makes ELI look so much better than he is.
Add the fact that the other 2 receivers are pretty fucking good also.
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I think every one including the stupid fucks on ESPN are over looking a huge fact about ELI.
CRUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ
That mother fucker is a beast and makes ELI look so much better than he is.
Add the fact that the other 2 receivers are pretty fucking good also.
Good? Bekum? That laser pass Eli hit to Bradshaw near the end while he was about to get cleaned. Manningham? Nicks? Good? Have to say Cruz is another version of the Panther's Steve Smith.
These recievers can't hold a candle to the Green Bay players but they still beat them. Better than the Falcons receivers? Hell no but they beat them. Eli is throwing darts and not turning it over.
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Do you not see the circus catches Cruz has made all season? When it seems there is no hope left for the giants Cruz comes up big with a ball that was not even thrown good and it turns it into something huge!
What receiver besides Calvin Johnson was better this year? Cruz was like 3rd in yards and most of his where after the catch. Also keep in mind he was pretty much a no body and not thrown to the first 3 games of the season. Wes Welker is second and I think every one will agree is not THAT good he just had the GOAT Brady making him look better than he really is.
You are also saying Nicks and Manningham are not good wtf?
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Do you not see the circus catches Cruz has made all season? When it seems there is no hope left for the giants Cruz comes up big with a ball that was not even thrown good and it turns it into something huge!
What receiver besides Calvin Johnson was better this year? Cruz was like 3rd in yards and most of his where after the catch. Also keep in mind he was pretty much a no body and not thrown to the first 3 games of the season. Wes Welker is second and I think every one will agree is not THAT good he just had the GOAT Brady making him look better than he really is.
You are also saying Nicks and Manningham are not good wtf?
Did you not read what I said about Cruz being another version of the Panther's Steve Smith? Steve Smith is a stud who runs like a madman, plays hard and makes amazing catches. Maybe I should have spelled it out.
But Nicks and Manningham are not studs though.
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Did you not read what I said about Cruz being another version of the Panther's Steve Smith? Steve Smith is a stud who runs like a madman, plays hard and makes amazing catches. Maybe I should have spelled it out.
But Nicks and Manningham are not studs though.
Lol, Nicks is a fucking stud. That is a solid point though. Tom Brady was winning superbowls with guys like Troy Brown, David Patten, and David Givens. Who? Nuff said
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Nicks is a stud. He's not there yet, but the guy has the talent to be a top 3 NFL receiver.
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Eli has proven to be more clutch so far. If you judge by numbers, then Peyton blows Eli away.
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Get the fuck out with this shit. Look at their body of work. Nuff said. The only thing Eli is, is more clutch I'll give him that. Payton is considered top 3 of ALL TIME. Eli isnt even top 20...hahahahhahahha.Clea rly you know nothing about football or you have alzheimers or amnezia
Oh yeah, and New England will win cause they are the better and more driven team...Fuck New York. TOM BRADY, TOM BRADY, TOM BRADY!!!!!!!!!!
You sound like G-String with this NFL conspiracy bullshit. ::) ::) ::)
arguments about superior talent based on quantitative stats like total wins, total yards, total championships instead of qualitative stats like pass completion percentage, average yards per game, winning percentage are totally fallacious.
if a guy plays for half a season and every time he touches the ball points go on the board... it doesnt matter that he only has three wins or 500 yard total... he is still one of the bets of all time if not the best
its like arguing that emmit smith was better than jim brown
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arguments about superior talent based on quantitative stats like total wins, total yards, total championships instead of qualitative stats like pass completion percentage, average yards per game, winning percentage are totally fallacious.
if a guy plays for half a season and every time he touches the ball points go on the board... it doesnt matter that he only has three wins or 500 yard total... he is still one of the bets of all time if not the best
its like arguing that emmit smith was better than jim brown
You're right, those types of measurements are COMPLETELY irrelevant. ::)
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You're right, those types of measurements are COMPLETELY irrelevant. ::)
they really are
there are so many variables to take into consideration
if your going to use stats to prove talent, you have to look at percentages and averages, not sum totals
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they really are
there are so many variables to take into consideration
if your going to use stats to prove talent, you have to look at percentages and averages, not sum totals
Taylor, you use wording that is just too strong. Having the most yards ever by a running back IS NOT "totally fallacious" there is no way in hell you can possibly believe that. It may not be the "end all, be all stat" but it still carries a good amount of weight when discussing a players greatness, that almost goes without saying.
And your statement that "if a guy plays for half a season and every time he touches the ball points go on the board" is another point that is completely irrelevent because IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME!!!
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Did you not read what I said about Cruz being another version of the Panther's Steve Smith? Steve Smith is a stud who runs like a madman, plays hard and makes amazing catches. Maybe I should have spelled it out.
But Nicks and Manningham are not studs though.
Nicks and Manningham are studs... I honestly do not think there is a better top 3 on any team. Some teams may have more weapons as recievers total than the giants but not top 3 that are better than those 3.
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Taylor, you use wording that is just too strong. Having the most yards ever by a running back IS NOT "totally fallacious" there is no way in hell you can possibly believe that. It may not be the "end all, be all stat" but it still carries a good amount of weight when discussing a players greatness, that almost goes without saying.
And your statement that "if a guy plays for half a season and every time he touches the ball points go on the board" is another point that is completely irrelevent because IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME!!!
two guys, one with more yards, one with more yards per carry, guy with more yards carry is always the guy who has more talent. Same thing in baseball, one guy has more wins but the other guy has a lower ERA! Guy withhold lower era is always the better pitcher. Quarterback... One guy has more interceptions... But the other guy has a higher interception/completion ratio.... Guy with more ints is more talented...
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two guys, one with more yards, one with more yards per carry, guy with more yards carry is always the guy who has more talent. Same thing in baseball, one guy has more wins but the other guy has a lower ERA! Guy withhold lower era is always the better pitcher. Quarterback... One guy has more interceptions... But the other guy has a higher interception/completion ratio.... Guy with more ints is more talented...
That's absolutely not true. You can't base it solely on yards per carry
Look at Felix Jones vs. Darren McFadden at the University of Arkansas.
Felix Jones averaged 8.7 yards per carry while Darren McFadden averaged 5.6 in 2007.
A THREE yards per carry average more and next to NOBODY would argue that Felix Jones was the better running back then or now!
Yes, yards per carry is a decent measurement in addition to other stats but when you throw out these strong words like ALWAYS it really hurts your argument.
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I didn't watch those two guys play but unless there was a specific reason why Felix had so much success other than pure talent then the numbers don't lie. I assume they played vs. The same defenses, and had the same offensive line to work with.
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no he's not. he is not even close to be as good as his brother
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Eli might end up with more Super Bowls, but only because the coaching and team is a better overall team.
Peyton in NY would have won 3 Super Bowls already. (Let's not forget the Tiki Barber Era)
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Eli is a beast. Took a fucking beating and kept on ticking.
that , i gotta respect...they fucked him up good and he still delivered ,hat off to him but until now ,as of today Payton is better..imo..
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peyton has better regular season stats but Eli is better in big game situations and if he gets another SB win...the argument will really intensify
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Looks like Peyton is a total control freak. I guessing he couldn't play for a lot of coach's in the league. No way he could play for Coughlin or Bill B. Looks like Peyton has a lot more in common with Dan Marino.