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Title: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 08, 2012, 11:54:27 AM
Arnold coming up, Olympia in the fall, any new changes?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 11:58:13 AM
Changes...in terms of what?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 08, 2012, 11:59:20 AM
Changes...in terms of what?

Judging, format, classes, new shows anything?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 08, 2012, 12:01:49 PM
bob can you guys bring back the posing trunks of arnolds day?


the glittery thongs are making it look like gay porno to a non suspecting outsider
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: _bruce_ on February 08, 2012, 12:04:08 PM
Front comb-over is now a mandatory.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
bob can you guys bring back the posing trunks of arnolds day? the glittery thongs are making it look like gay porno to a non suspecting outsider

The competitors are free to wear any trunks they wish... most of the time it's not an issue, but I can't say I don't cringe every time someone feels it's necessary to hike them up their ass...

Definitely not needed
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: aesthetics on February 08, 2012, 12:06:00 PM
you guys should have a synthol division and bring in those guys from south america and europe with 28 inch arms of pure oil.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 12:07:48 PM
Judging, format, classes, new shows anything?

always change in shows...some last, some don't.  Judging is the same format...202 is now the 212 ...as most know, we now have the much anticipated women's physique division, which should be a pleasant alternative....and one which I predict will explode over the next year or two...
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 08, 2012, 12:08:37 PM
bob is it true ronnie coleman didn't train nearly as hard on a day to day basis as his videos make it appear?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Nails on February 08, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
The competitors are free to wear any trunks they wish...

most of the time it's not an issue, but I can't say I don't cringe every time someone feels it's necessary to hike them up their ass...

Definitely not needed



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Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 08, 2012, 12:15:23 PM
always change in shows...some last, some don't.  Judging is the same format...202 is now the 212 ...as most know, we now have the much anticipated women's physique division, which should be a pleasant alternative....and one which I predict will explode over the next year or two...

Wome's physique differs from Bikini how?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: tommywishbone on February 08, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
Will Vince be competing in the 202 or open class this year?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: kh300 on February 08, 2012, 12:25:28 PM
Wome's physique differs from Bikini how?

tit size
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 08, 2012, 12:33:31 PM
bob can you guys bring back the posing trunks of arnolds day?


the glittery thongs are making it look like gay porno to a non suspecting outsider

The trunks have nothing to do with it. People in Arnold's day thought his trunks were just as "gay porno", as you claim today's trunks are.

Besides, the men's physique competitors have shorts that go past their knees. What's the excuse for that one?

The change that I don't like is the rule that only the winners of the "small" shows qualify for the Olympia. That makes no sense, especially if you're trying to make the Olympia better.

Case in point, Brandon Curry didn't win a pro show. Yet, at the O, he beat FOUR GUYS who did (Yamagishi, Nunn, Richardson, and Alves). Heck, Richardson barely cracked the top 15; Alves placed "16th".
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 08, 2012, 12:37:16 PM
The trunks have nothing to do with it. People in Arnold's day thought his trunks were just as "gay porno", as you claim today's trunks are.

Besides, the men's physique competitors have shorts that go past their knees. What's the excuse for that one?

The change that I don't like is the rule that only the winners of the "small" shows qualify for the Olympia. That makes no sense, especially if you're trying to make the Olympia better.

Case in point, Brandon Curry didn't win a pro show. Yet, at the O, he beat FOUR GUYS who did (Yamagishi, Nunn, Richardson, and Alves). Heck, Richardson barely cracked the top 15; Alves placed "16th".


brandon curry is mostl likely the best bodybuilder in the world at this time
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 08, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
bob is it true ronnie coleman didn't train nearly as hard on a day to day basis as his videos make it appear?
Isn't that the case for all BBers vids...?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Oly15 on February 08, 2012, 12:42:07 PM
The competitors are free to wear any trunks they wish...

most of the time it's not an issue, but I can't say I don't cringe every time someone feels it's necessary to hike them up their ass...

Definitely not needed

Wow I didn't know that. I thought they changed the rules to make them wear the thongs. Why all of them wear that I don't know. I'll be wearing some similar to arnolds day.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 08, 2012, 12:42:48 PM
Isn't that the case for all BBers vids...?

they usually dont train hard in videos, they just grunt and moan somewhat but the bar speed is telling the tale


in fact ronnie's double with 800lbs had pretty high bar speed


but at least he actually put monster weights on the bar
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 08, 2012, 12:44:59 PM
Of course it's mostly show, the sweat is sprayed on water and stuff. They can't afford to tear a muscle for a photo shoot. But I still think Ronnie trained heavier than most.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 08, 2012, 12:48:50 PM
Of course it's mostly show, the sweat is sprayed on water and stuff. They can't afford to tear a muscle for a photo shoot. But I still think Ronnie trained heavier than most.

did ronnie use real plates?

is such a bar speed humanly possible with 8plates on each side of the barbell?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 08, 2012, 12:49:52 PM
You're right. But STILL I think he trained heavy..
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 08, 2012, 12:51:13 PM
You're right. But STILL I think he trained heavy..

looking at those HARDCORE VIDEOS i cant stop but think i train with higher intensity


it looks like they always for 3 reps in the tank when they rack it


but then i think maybe they have to train with submaximal intensity to cycle their volume and max percentages in an intricate periodization scheme
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 08, 2012, 12:52:39 PM
Natties train harder because they have to...
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 12:53:58 PM
bob is it true ronnie coleman didn't train nearly as hard on a day to day basis as his videos make it appear?

not likely...anyone who knows Ronnie, knows he trained like a madman every workout. in hindsight, I would bet he wishes he would have backed off...unnecessary and counter productive at a certain point.  Dorian did the same thing...
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 08, 2012, 12:54:09 PM
Natties train harder because they have to...

this is a good example of what i mean, some guy i found on youtube, now that is some real intensity if you ask me, looks about to die then does another rep and another


Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 08, 2012, 12:55:51 PM
Wow I didn't know that. I thought they changed the rules to make them wear the thongs. Why all of them wear that I don't know. I'll be wearing some similar to arnolds day.

You do realize people thought Arnold was gay, 40 or so years ago, right!?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 12:56:46 PM
The trunks have nothing to do with it. People in Arnold's day thought his trunks were just as "gay porno", as you claim today's trunks are.

Besides, the men's physique competitors have shorts that go past their knees. What's the excuse for that one?

The change that I don't like is the rule that only the winners of the "small" shows qualify for the Olympia. That makes no sense, especially if you're trying to make the Olympia better.

Case in point, Brandon Curry didn't win a pro show. Yet, at the O, he beat FOUR GUYS who did (Yamagishi, Nunn, Richardson, and Alves). Heck, Richardson barely cracked the top 15; Alves placed "16th".

Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons.   Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner.  hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

if we find it doesn't work, well take a look at it....nothing is set in stone, but we needed to do something so we don't have anymore than 15 or so qualifying at the olympia.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 08, 2012, 12:56:54 PM
this is a good example of what i mean, some guy i found on youtube, now that is some real intensity if you ask me, looks about to die then does another rep and another


Nice to watch but I put that horrible music out.....
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 08, 2012, 12:58:15 PM
bob is ronnie coleman a cool guy?

can he beat you at arm wrestling?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on February 08, 2012, 01:01:33 PM
Natties train harder because they have to...

training hard can be fun sometimes though
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 08, 2012, 01:22:52 PM
Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons.   Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner.  hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

if we find it doesn't work, well take a look at it....nothing is set in stone, but we needed to do something so we don't have anymore than 15 or so qualifying at the olympia.

Back in the day, people were complaining about how few competitors there were during the late 90s and early 2000s (just 13 guys were in the 2000 Olympia). Lack of competitors supposedly meant that they weren't valuing the Olympia; that is, the number of top competitors who qualified but sat out made the show weaker.

On a different note,

- Why did they change the rules that the Mr. Universe winner no longer qualifies for the Olympia?
- The lifetime Olympia qualification for any former Mr. Olympia has been gone since 2003, correct?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 01:38:15 PM
Back in the day, people were complaining about how few competitors there were during the late 90s and early 2000s (just 13 guys were in the 2000 Olympia). Lack of competitors supposedly meant that they weren't valuing the Olympia; that is, the number of top competitors who qualified but sat out made the show weaker.

On a different note,

- Why did they change the rules that the Mr. Universe winner no longer qualifies for the Olympia?
- The lifetime Olympia qualification for any former Mr. Olympia has been gone since 2003, correct?

no one was complaining, but the idea of the Olympia is that he best of the best qualify...not the 20-25 guys we've had over the last few years...increase in shows and subsequent number of qualifying spots explains it.  there is always a rate of attrician of guys who opt out, get injured, sick,etc....that's a given.

Rules changed when there was no longer a Universe affiliated...the Universe became the team Universe, which we don't even have a team for anymore...

any former Mr. O has a lifetime pass....with the approval of the pro league.  Of recent times, none have ever requested entry.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 08, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
no one was complaining, but the idea of the Olympia is that he best of the best qualify...not the 20-25 guys we've had over the last few years...increase in shows and subsequent number of qualifying spots explains it.  there is always a rate of attrician of guys who opt out, get injured, sick,etc....that's a given.

Rules changed when there was no longer a Universe affiliated...the Universe became the team Universe, which we don't even have a team for anymore...

any former Mr. O has a lifetime pass....with the approval of the pro league.  Of recent times, none have ever requested entry.


That means that, even thought he's sitting 2012 out, Dexter Jackson doesn't have to compete in 2013 to qualify for that year's Olympia. I thought they changed the rule, when Samir Bannout was contemplating another comeback while looking absolutely awful.

Unless I'm mistaken, the Team Universe became a pro qualifier, because the Universe was constantly being held in Muslim countries that weren't all that US-friendly. So TU class winners couldn't go to compete for a pro card.

There still is a separate World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships (also or formerly known as the Mr. Universe). It used to be that all the class winners qualified for the following year's Olympia. For example, Ronnie Coleman won his pro card at the '91 Universe, which qualified him for the '92 Olympia (where he placed "16th"). When they brought back the overall champion in '95, as there was none from '91 to '94, all the class winners got pro cards but only the overall champ qualified for the Olympia.

I asked that question, because when Dennis Wolf hit the scene, he was talking about his preparation for a pro show to qualify for the big O. I was confused, because I thought he already qualified by winning the 2005 World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships (or the Universe). But, someone told me that winning the Universe doesn't qualify you for the Olympia anymore.



Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 01:53:12 PM
That means that, even thought he's sitting 2012 out, Dexter Jackson doesn't have to compete in 2013 to qualify for that year's Olympia. I thought they changed the rule, when Samir Bannout was contemplating another comeback while looking absolutely awful.

Unless I'm mistaken, the Team Universe became a pro qualifier, because the Universe was constantly being held in Muslim countries that weren't all that US-friendly. So TU class winners couldn't go to compete for a pro card.

There still is a separate World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships (also or formerly known as the Mr. Universe). It used to be that all the class winners qualified for the following year's Olympia. For example, Ronnie Coleman won his pro card at the '91 Universe, which qualified him for the '92 Olympia (where he placed "16th"). When they brought back the overall champion in '95, as there was none from '91 to '94, all the class winners got pro cards but only the overall champ qualified for the Olympia.

I asked that question, because when Dennis Wolf hit the scene, he was talking about his preparation for a pro show to qualify for the big O. I was confused, because I thought he already qualified by winning the 2005 World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships (or the Universe). But, someone told me that winning the Universe doesn't qualify you for the Olympia anymore.





That is Correct, winning the universe does not qualify for the Olympia.  The only universe out there is either amateur or some other federation...
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MB on February 08, 2012, 01:53:17 PM
The change in qualification rules not only keeps the Olympia at a more elite status, but it also helps the circuit shows.  The theory is that more top guys will do the smaller shows in an effort to qualify for the O.  Everyone knows how last year's line-ups were very 3rd tier looking through the summer.  
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 08, 2012, 02:39:49 PM
That is Correct, winning the universe does not qualify for the Olympia.  The only universe out there is either amateur or some other federation...

Let me clarify. I was referring to the IFBB World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships, which was once known as the IFBB Mr. Universe. The Team Universe used to be a qualifier for that show. The class winners at the TU formed a team that went to the World Championships. If they won their weight classes there, they got pro cards.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 03:18:43 PM
Let me clarify. I was referring to the IFBB World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships, which was once known as the IFBB Mr. Universe. The Team Universe used to be a qualifier for that show. The class winners at the TU formed a team that went to the World Championships. If they won their weight classes there, they got pro cards.

you are correct....they got pro cards, like ronnie did.  no, it is not an Olympia qualifier
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 08, 2012, 03:42:53 PM
you are correct....they got pro cards, like ronnie did.  no, it is not an Olympia qualifier

But why the switch? Why is it that the IFBB World Amateur Bodybuilding Champion (or Mr. Universe, for ease of typing) no longer qualifies for the Olympia?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 04:01:37 PM
But why the switch? Why is it that the IFBB World Amateur Bodybuilding Champion (or Mr. Universe, for ease of typing) no longer qualifies for the Olympia?

It hasn't qualified anyone for the Olympia since the old days...REALLY old days...like the 70s.  since the  80s, I'm pretty sure it just got a pro card, but never a O qualification
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 08, 2012, 04:06:25 PM
Why doesn't the Olympia go to Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Egypt?  The bodybuilding fans around the world would love to see these guys at their peak and I will bet you will sell more tickets to the show as well, the US is not the only place on the map.

Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Stavios on February 08, 2012, 04:10:15 PM
It hasn't qualified anyone for the Olympia since the old days...REALLY old days...like the 70s.  since the  80s, I'm pretty sure it just got a pro card, but never a O qualification

 what about the stupid special invites ?

I hope they never bring that back, just seemed to me like a slap in the face of the other pros who didn't qualify but still tryed too
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Post by: Vince B on February 08, 2012, 04:15:18 PM
Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons.   Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner.  hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

if we find it doesn't work, well take a look at it....nothing is set in stone, but we needed to do something so we don't have anymore than 15 or so qualifying at the olympia.

The company man, IFBB stooge and patsy finally spells it out in print: "We will do this and we will do that."

Guess Chick has the pro athletes rep position for 'life'.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: dantelis on February 08, 2012, 04:39:32 PM
Why doesn't the Olympia go to Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Egypt?  The bodybuilding fans around the world would love to see these guys at their peak and I will bet you will sell more tickets to the show as well, the US is not the only place on the map.



Fear of bombings?   :D

Once these locations have an IFBB pro show, it would make them more of a logical location for a big show like the Olympia.  Don't think that the Olympia will ever leave Vegas though.  It is too profitable in that location and is much easier and cheaper to organize in the same location every year.  (Why do you think Arnold holds his show in Columbus year after year?)
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 04:40:32 PM
what about the stupid special invites ?

I hope they never bring that back, just seemed to me like a slap in the face of the other pros who didn't qualify but still tryed too

haven't been any of those since Wayne's departure...and won't be.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 04:42:15 PM
Why doesn't the Olympia go to Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Egypt?  The bodybuilding fans around the world would love to see these guys at their peak and I will bet you will sell more tickets to the show as well, the US is not the only place on the map.



for many reasons...

why isn't the Super Bowl anywhere else?  same for the "world series"...which seems to only include USA and Canada?
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: DBX on February 08, 2012, 04:43:14 PM
bob can you guys bring back the posing trunks of arnolds day?


the glittery thongs are making it look like gay porno to a non suspecting outsider
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MB on February 08, 2012, 04:43:58 PM
Fear of bombings?   :D

Once these locations have an IFBB pro show, it would make them more of a logical location for a big show like the Olympia.  Don't think that the Olympia will ever leave Vegas though.  It is too profitable in that location and is much easier and cheaper to organize in the same location every year.  (Why do you think Arnold holds his show in Columbus year after year?)

I agree, it makes it easier and cheaper to organize having it in the same place, but it gets old going to the same venue year in and year out.  I'd like to see it move around again.  
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 05:06:49 PM


given the size of the fatty you date, I can see where you might think that's a thong...
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: DBX on February 08, 2012, 05:08:20 PM
given the size of the fatty you date, I can see where you might think that's a thong...
dont be so defensive
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 08, 2012, 05:09:40 PM
dont be so defensive

Don't be so queer
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 08, 2012, 10:09:48 PM
for many reasons...

why isn't the Super Bowl anywhere else?  same for the "world series"...which seems to only include USA and Canada?

bodybuilding is a worldwide activity though, baseball, football, those are American sports that most other countries don't play.  Soccer is huge in other countries, not in the US though.  So if bodybuilding is huge in other countries it make sense to have the Olympia there once in a while since it's a worldwide activity, look at the places of birth in the Olympia lineup.  Arnold was not from America, everything doesn't revolve around the US, bodybuilding could become more popular if you had Olympia out of US and rotated sites, I know it would be a pain in the ass, but it would gain more audience.

Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: dantelis on February 09, 2012, 07:39:24 AM
bodybuilding is a worldwide activity though, baseball, football, those are American sports that most other countries don't play.  Soccer is huge in other countries, not in the US though.  So if bodybuilding is huge in other countries it make sense to have the Olympia there once in a while since it's a worldwide activity, look at the places of birth in the Olympia lineup.  Arnold was not from America, everything doesn't revolve around the US, bodybuilding could become more popular if you had Olympia out of US and rotated sites, I know it would be a pain in the ass, but it would gain more audience.

Not necessarily.  The cost to put on a show can vary from location to location.  For example, it would be much more expensive to hold a show in London, with the high costs for hotel rooms, venues, food, labor, etc., than to hold it in Las Vegas, where the occupation rate for hotel rooms is currently very low and options for show venues is extremely varied so prices are low.  In addition, by holding it in the same location every year, the IFBB can establish relationships with hotels and conference locations to save money. 

By all means, have a pro show in the middle east.  Once that is established as a success and money maker, then consider running the Olympia there.  Until that time, doesn't make sense to make the risky step of trying to do the Olympia in an untested market.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: The_Punisher on February 09, 2012, 09:29:12 AM
The competitors are free to wear any trunks they wish...

most of the time it's not an issue, but I can't say I don't cringe every time someone feels it's necessary to hike them up their ass...

Definitely not needed


no way those old trunks are coming back to modern bodybuilding.....how would you expect these guys to display their Striated Glutes?......somethings should just stay in the past......
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Oly15 on February 09, 2012, 09:52:58 AM
given the size of the fatty you date, I can see where you might think that's a thong...

Fucking LOL hahahaha
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 09, 2012, 11:21:15 AM
Not necessarily.  The cost to put on a show can vary from location to location.  For example, it would be much more expensive to hold a show in London, with the high costs for hotel rooms, venues, food, labor, etc., than to hold it in Las Vegas, where the occupation rate for hotel rooms is currently very low and options for show venues is extremely varied so prices are low.  In addition, by holding it in the same location every year, the IFBB can establish relationships with hotels and conference locations to save money. 

By all means, have a pro show in the middle east.  Once that is established as a success and money maker, then consider running the Olympia there.  Until that time, doesn't make sense to make the risky step of trying to do the Olympia in an untested market.

I agree, I wouldn't chose London though, somewhere in the middle east is where the money is at.  The oil rich countries, they love bodybuilding, I am sure they would even pay for all the airfare, hotel costs and food, and gear for the competitors they are filthy rich.  They have lavish hotels as well.  They should try it at least once and see how it goes.  You see how many pro's go to Dubai and other Arab countries to pose, there is money over their.  They would probably even lower the hotel rates to match Vegas rates as well to get any Americans who wanted to attend so they just could get the Olympia in their country.



Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 10, 2012, 06:37:29 PM
It hasn't qualified anyone for the Olympia since the old days...REALLY old days...like the 70s.  since the  80s, I'm pretty sure it just got a pro card, but never a O qualification

Winning his class at the Universe in 1991 is how Ronnie Coleman qualified for the 1992 Olympia.

Remember the debuts of Gunter Schlierkamp and Roland Czurlok at the 1994 Olympia? They won their respective classes at the '93 World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships. I don't recall either man competing at any other pro show, prior to the Olympia.

Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 10, 2012, 06:38:56 PM
Why doesn't the Olympia go to Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Egypt?  The bodybuilding fans around the world would love to see these guys at their peak and I will bet you will sell more tickets to the show as well, the US is not the only place on the map.



The last Mr. Olympia held outside the US was the 1992 one in Finland, where Dorian Yates won. I believe they've all been in US since 1993.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 10, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
The last Mr. Olympia held outside the US was the 1992 one in Finland, where Dorian Yates won. I believe they've all been in US since 1993.

interesting fact, I did not know that.  I think the Arabs would foot the bill for everything if they had it in their country of choice.  Hotel, everything, just look at all the pros who go over there, they never have a negative thing to say, in fact they go back yearly time after time.

Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Chick on February 10, 2012, 07:20:03 PM
Winning his class at the Universe in 1991 is how Ronnie Coleman qualified for the 1992 Olympia.

Remember the debuts of Gunter Schlierkamp and Roland Czurlok at the 1994 Olympia? They won their respective classes at the '93 World Amateur Bodybuilding Championships. I don't recall either man competing at any other pro show, prior to the Olympia.



It was by invite, I believe...as Ronnie competed a few times before the Olympia and didn't place very well.  Glad the old Wayne D invite days went out with him...
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: MCWAY on February 11, 2012, 03:52:47 PM
It was by invite, I believe...as Ronnie competed a few times before the Olympia and didn't place very well.  Glad the old Wayne D invite days went out with him...

According to one website, he placed 11th and 14th at the Chicago Pro Invitational and NOC, respectively.

It makes no sense to invite someone with such meager showings. I also remember reading in one of my MuscleMags that someone asked what it took to qualify for the Olympia. Among the answers was winning your class at the Universe.

That would explain Czurlock and Schlierkamp, unless they got invites, too.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Tony Doherty on February 11, 2012, 04:01:17 PM
Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons.   Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner.  hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

if we find it doesn't work, well take a look at it....nothing is set in stone, but we needed to do something so we don't have anymore than 15 or so qualifying at the olympia.

We agree on that one one BOB. If one person from every show qualified, no matter what, the problem would be solved. We would still end up with 15-20 qualified and when a couple pull out or get injured. We will get 15 on stage.  I am finding it very hard to sign the guys this year as their dream has been killed off.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: OTHstrong on February 11, 2012, 04:37:07 PM
The last Mr. Olympia held outside the US was the 1992 one in Finland, where Dorian Yates won. I believe they've all been in US since 1993.
Yes and has been in vagas since 99,
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Stavios on February 11, 2012, 07:06:26 PM
Yes and has been in vagas since 99,

it would be cool if they changed the country where they old the olympia like they did before

but I guess if they keep doing it this way, it's because they make more money by having it in vegas
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: reppingfor20 on February 12, 2012, 08:23:38 AM
it would be cool if they changed the country where they old the olympia like they did before

but I guess if they keep doing it this way, it's because they make more money by having it in vegas

they really don't know until they try it in a rich Arab country and see what the money is like now, they never had it their and it could be a huge money maker and crowd draw.

Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: sanam on February 12, 2012, 10:25:43 AM
Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons.   Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner.  hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

if we find it doesn't work, well take a look at it....nothing is set in stone, but we needed to do something so we don't have anymore than 15 or so qualifying at the olympia.
if u guys want to tighten up the Olympia qualification do it gradually.u guys cud have start with top 2 qualify for Olympia instead of top 3 or 5 in pro shows.if top 2 are already qualified 3rd and 4rth cud have given the qualification.only winner Olympia qualification option seems bit extream to me.it will drive lots of competitor away.guys wud think oh so and so gonna win why would i even bother.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: jwb on February 12, 2012, 10:39:52 AM
We agree on that one one BOB. If one person from every show qualified, no matter what, the problem would be solved. We would still end up with 15-20 qualified and when a couple pull out or get injured. We will get 15 on stage.  I am finding it very hard to sign the guys this year as their dream has been killed off.

This is what I said when they changed things the smaller promoters are screwed.

Jesus Christ the Olympia used to have 30 competitors during the 80's and it was no problem. You know why? They didn't dick around with all the rubbish they have onstage today.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Ron on February 12, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
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Why doesn't the Olympia go to Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Egypt? The bodybuilding fans around the world would love to see these guys at their peak and I will bet you will sell more tickets to the show as well, the US is not the only place on the map.

The Mr. Olympia contest itself can probably move around if it was just that - one contest. However, in the last 10+ years, it is a whole event, a whole weekend, with 4 other contesta, a few other non-bodybuilding events, and a place where hundreds of booths and supplements companies go to.  Las Vegas is the perfect destination for this event. Tons of hotels, and people from all over the world come to this event.  You need a large enough arena, and a place for the convention expo.  Vegas has proved it is the right place for the Olympia, just as Columbus is for the Arnold, just as FIBO is for Germany. 

Yes, lets go to one of those countries, where woman cant even go without being harrassed, where Americans are being detained, and you need to be careful just to be safe.  The US is where a ton of the supplement companies are at, and this is a place where they introduce many of the new products for the fall and winter seasons.

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what about the stupid special invites? I hope they never bring that back, just seemed to me like a slap in the face of the other pros who didn't qualify but still tryed too


If they do not have 15 people in the Olympia, in any contest, a special invite, if needed should be issued.  Especially if someone did very well, and loses by a few points, and doesnt qualify because they chose to compete in a 'harder and tougher' lineup over an easier one.  It will especially be important for the Fitness or Figure or Bikini Olympia this year, because all IFBB shows, only one person qualifies, and if you are already qualified, then no one goes.

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Don't like it myself, for a variety of reasons. Suggested we have one PERSON qualify at each show....not just the winner. hopefully, we won't run into a issue is one guy ends up winning 2-3 shows...

Yes, not a fan of this rule, and it may hurt the promoters because if someone who is already qualified wants to compete, no one else may have a chance to qualify, hence why even compete at that contest.  The best rule change will be that ONE person qualifies at every contest. If first place already qualified, then the next one goes.  Now that would make each contest something to work hard to compete in.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: jwb on February 12, 2012, 05:59:06 PM
There should be one spot up for grabs at every show for someone who ISN'T already qualified. Last year a lot of different people won the various shows but that is far from a given. Vince Taylor and flex used to win the majority of non Olympia shows in certain years.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: sanam on February 13, 2012, 01:46:08 AM
Yes, lets go to one of those countries, where woman cant even go without being harassed, where Americans are being detained, and you need to be careful just to be safe.  The US is where a ton of the supplement companies are at, and this is a place where they introduce many of the new products for the fall and winter seasons.
 


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u Jew mo fo u dont miss a chance to bash Muslim countries.why not look into ur own back yard(usa) where rape cases are highest in the world.underage pregnancies highest in the world.domestic violence highest in the world.u make me sick.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: Vince B on February 13, 2012, 02:01:30 AM
Sounds to me like the pro athletes endorse all these rules. No doubt about it at all. Shows what a great job Chick is doing.
Title: Re: Bob Chic- What changes can we expect this year for the major contests?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 13, 2012, 02:06:14 AM
Get your head out of your ass Ron.