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Title: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: SmoofCat on February 08, 2012, 06:57:36 PM
Does it really have to be 1:1? I have been doing 1:1 every time I run masteron and tren (as in 100 mg tren ace a day, 100 mg masteron ace a day, or 50 mg tren ace a day, 50 mg masteron ace a day, etc) forever.

Is this necessary? Can masteron work at a lower dose than tren? For example, 100 mg tren ace daily, 50 mg masteron ace daily?

I ask because I LOVE masteron. I literally will in all likelihood be on it for the rest of my life. And I would rather hear everybody's input in this regard before I go and do an experiment on myself of lowering the masteron dose down to 50 mg daily while keeping the tren at 100 mg daily, and then seeing things that I don't like.
 
How do you all run your masteron with your tren? 1:1 ratio? Or what?

Furthermore, does anybody agree with me that masteron is basically the most amazing, and underrated steroid ever? The magic that masteron creates when combined with tren is honestly the nectar of the gods. It is my anabolic holy grail. Long live masteron + tren.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: Rearden Metal on February 08, 2012, 07:13:22 PM
I ran it at half the Tren dose all the time until the final weeks when I ran it at .75-1 and then 1-1.

Good for hardness and estrogen control but other than that not sure what you're so excited about lol.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: SmoofCat on February 08, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
I ran it at half the Tren dose all the time until the final weeks when I ran it at .75-1 and then 1-1.

Good for hardness and estrogen control but other than that not sure what you're so excited about lol.

I love the hardness it gives me. I have not done masteron in 2 years roughly, and now I am running mast and tren at high doses. And I had forgotten how fucking awesome masteron is with tren. Just the hard, dry, chemical look it gives is insane.

Obviously tren ace is good enough. But if you can afford masteron ace with it, I highly suggest it. The benefits are, in my opinion, noteworthy.

A lot of people say that masteron is useless. I however disagree.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: dustin on February 08, 2012, 09:07:34 PM
I love the hardness it gives me. I have not done masteron in 2 years roughly, and now I am running mast and tren at high doses. And I had forgotten how fucking awesome masteron is with tren. Just the hard, dry, chemical look it gives is insane.

Obviously tren ace is good enough. But if you can afford masteron ace with it, I highly suggest it. The benefits are, in my opinion, noteworthy.

A lot of people say that masteron is useless. I however disagree.

I agree. The people who think masteron is shit have wet hot dog bun physiques. I love it but BPH fears keep me running a low dose.

I tolerate DHT sides well but cardiovascular issues and BPH are my only real concerns.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: Nasty Nate on February 09, 2012, 08:04:50 AM
For my show in the fall I was running Tren Ace 100mg ED and Mast Prop at 75mg ED. Right now I just started back on Tren at 1cc ED with some Halo. I'm gonna add some Mast in at 50-75mg ED around May so I can be a little drier for summer. Masteron is very good, but it's really only important if you want an even drier look. Not so important when it comes to size I don't think.

But I feel the way about tren the way you feel about mast. Tren gives me the look I like, I feel good(no bad sides, just the aggressiveness I want), plus it's my main product for size. I'm not even running test right now, dropped it and added some halo. I'm gonna be on tren damn near year round though, probably take 4 weeks off every few months.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: nasht5 on February 09, 2012, 08:39:03 AM
I know 3guys who ran only masteron at 1cc ed, didn't eat clean just average good, all dropped 2-4inches in the waist and their bench krept through the roof.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 09, 2012, 09:48:47 AM
Masteron prop is the shit! My top 3 favorite compound. Never used tren and masteron together. Does it help with the tren sides any?
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: SmoofCat on February 09, 2012, 11:01:40 AM
Masteron prop is the shit! My top 3 favorite compound. Never used tren and masteron together. Does it help with the tren sides any?

yeah dude it is amazing in that sense.

masteron is just a magical oil. nobody gives it enough credit.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 09, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
yeah dude it is amazing in that sense.

masteron is just a magical oil. nobody gives it enough credit.

I agree no cycle is complete without it. To me at least. I tried telling one of my buddies about it. He completely dismisses it. It's a great compound it goes great with test or anything else.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: nosleep on February 09, 2012, 12:54:14 PM
MASTERON IS LIKE AN AID. THAT'S THE BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT.

ONCE I ADDED MAST MOST OF MY TREN SIDES WENT DOWN OR COMPLETELY GONE. ONCE I DROPPED SOME TEST AND USED THAT MG FILLER WITH MAST, MY FACE GOT LEANER. SINCE IVE DROPPED ALL TEST AND REPLACED IT WITH ALL MASTERON, THE LOOK IS JUST AWESOME. WITH TEST, I THINK MASTERON IS PROBABLY 2ND TO GH AND ABOVE EPHEDRA IN ALLOWING US ESTROGENIC PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GIVE TEST A HEAVY GO.

PRIMO-TREN-MAST IS THE CYCLE FOR FACE BEAUTY.

Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 09, 2012, 01:12:21 PM
This summer I'm going to run

Jasmine mix 75mg of prop 50mg of masteron prop (real good chef) 1cc eod
Primo 500 mg ew (good chef)
250 mg test E 1cc ew
hgh not sure what dose
and some dbol for fun
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: evser on February 09, 2012, 01:19:26 PM
Actually right now Im on a prep cycle and my masteron dose is about 1.5x my tren dose. 600mg/400mg respectively. If I go above that much tren I get bad sides so Im compensating with more mast and honestly im loving it. really hardening up and I have way less sides than if I was running say only 600 tren. test is in at 200 prop per week also. Mast makes me dryer than tren but tren keeps me way fuller. Gotta find what works for you in the end
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 09, 2012, 01:23:57 PM
Why aren't you running Prop instead of Ace?
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: qbkilla on February 09, 2012, 01:26:03 PM
havent ran tren and mast, on mast with eq and test not too impressed,,and im not a fat boy,,,just dont get the veins from it and hardness, i ran it after tren so maybe its helping me keep the look and im just not seeing anything additional cuz i dropped the tren..

for the guys that do 100 tren Ed, how long do you run this much for?

and the jasmine is that a top chef?  have heard a good things but have not heard alot, might pick that up too
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: nosleep on February 09, 2012, 01:32:04 PM
havent ran tren and mast, on mast with eq and test not too impressed,,and im not a fat boy,,,just dont get the veins from it and hardness, i ran it after tren so maybe its helping me keep the look and im just not seeing anything additional cuz i dropped the tren..

for the guys that do 100 tren Ed, how long do you run this much for?

and the jasmine is that a top chef?  have heard a good things but have not heard alot, might pick that up too

WHOSE STUFF U RUNNIN?
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 09, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
WHOSE STUFF U RUNNIN?

Good question if it's legit masteron you should have viens like you've never seen before. I can see every single vein in arms after a few weeks on good masteron. I didn't even realize the human body had that many. It's crazy looking when you have real good pump you hold your arms out and you just see these large branch looking veins.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: johnnynoname on February 09, 2012, 02:30:47 PM
on the advise of a fellow GB'er, I plan on cruising a cc of Test C with a cc of Mast......this may be a dumb quesiton but how long can I cruise with the Mast


Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: Brocty on February 09, 2012, 03:10:06 PM
havent ran tren and mast, on mast with eq and test not too impressed,,and im not a fat boy,,,just dont get the veins from it and hardness, i ran it after tren so maybe its helping me keep the look and im just not seeing anything additional cuz i dropped the tren..

for the guys that do 100 tren Ed, how long do you run this much for?

and the jasmine is that a top chef?  have heard a good things but have not heard alot, might pick that up too

If your holding up your look i'd say it's doing the job, what do you expect after dropping the all mighty trenbolana
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 09, 2012, 03:11:23 PM
on the advise of a fellow GB'er, I plan on cruising a cc of Test C with a cc of Mast......this may be a dumb quesiton but how long can I cruise with the Mast




Forever man :)
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 09, 2012, 03:18:38 PM
on the advise of a fellow GB'er, I plan on cruising a cc of Test C with a cc of Mast......this may be a dumb quesiton but how long can I cruise with the Mast




I would def run like 150-200mg of mast with your cruise dose of test maybe even less you can always adjust. I've read a few old timers do this guys that don't want to cycle hard anymore. Maybe a little gh in there to.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: qbkilla on February 09, 2012, 03:47:57 PM
im using the top chefs,,,,s..g0 and alpha labs,,,not alpha pharma the alpha lab which is very good, im thinkin maybe im holding water from the gh and test,,,it did keep most of the tren look was not all that veiny on the tren so maybe water is my issue
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 09, 2012, 03:57:29 PM
im using the top chefs,,,,s..g0 and alpha labs,,,not alpha pharma the alpha lab which is very good, im thinkin maybe im holding water from the gh and test,,,it did keep most of the tren look was not all that veiny on the tren so maybe water is my issue

Ya it doesn't eliminate all the water. I kind of like that. A little water makes you look fuller. The gh is making you hold water to. A couple times I was running test and masteron. I would run out of masteron and run test for few weeks before I reupped. I loved the look I had for those few weeks. Nice and full and thick! The water would start filling me up to much though If I didn't add the masteron back.

Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: Stavios on February 09, 2012, 05:12:13 PM
my only problem with masteron is the prostate problems it can encounter

I love it also, great drug but I hate that side
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: FAST LANE on February 09, 2012, 06:53:45 PM
Can't wait to try masteron!!! I'm already getting a little excited  ;D
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: dustin on February 10, 2012, 12:33:29 AM
my only problem with masteron is the prostate problems it can encounter

I love it also, great drug but I hate that side

Yeah, doesn't anyone else have this concern?

If it were not for that I'd probably run way more than just 50mg EOD. After this vial I'm dropping it and just going with tren and EQ. I'm going to pin 75mg of tren ace and 300mg of EQ EOD and a ml of test maybe once a week. After every vial of masteron I usually take a break. I keep my blood pressure at a safe level but I don't get blood work anymore (no point, I run low doses and it's always clean results) and my damn prostate is the one other thing that concerns me.

I love the old 50/50/50mg of test prop, tren ace and masteron. Just that little bit of masteron makes it feel like you're taking double the test and tren. At least double... feels fucking great and makes you look great too.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: evser on February 10, 2012, 04:48:59 AM
I don't really get prostate sides from mast, but within the first week of anadrol or superdrol i feel like I got a golf club slammed right between my legs
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: nosleep on February 10, 2012, 05:18:38 AM
I KNO IF U UP THE DOSE OF TREN OR ORALS BY 100-150 THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE BUT WITH SOMETHIN LIKE TEST NOT SO MUCH.

WHAT BOUT MASTERON?
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: whitewidow on February 10, 2012, 07:06:45 AM
The title says masteron acetate? I think you are talking about masteron propionate. i would run it 100/100. but it is highly androgenic just like tren. I swear you can really see the magic of masteron when you hit 6% and or lower then it is just a amazing compound you get striations everywhere. off the hook vascularity, veins show up in places you have never had them show up before, same with the striations. great drug to get your glutes striated-no homo. Masteron will also keep you very strong when dieting real hard. alot of people lose alot of strength whyen dieting but if you are running masteron you do not lose strength gains at all! It makes your delts pop. it makes you rock hard. very under-rated compound! and that is because the people who use it are just not lean enough guy who are 15-20% will not get the same response as a guy who is 6% or less. I would run it maybe for 4 weeks up until your competition but tren and masteron are just 2 extremely potent androgenic steroids!

 I would not use either of them for longer 4 weeks out from your competition then stop using them for awhile. masteron and tren are just to androgenic to be running for months! I think it is just best to us them for the last four weeks leading up to your show, win your show and drop them both and take a break. save the rest for the summer months. running tren and masteron being as andrognic as they are and running 1-1 ratio 100mg of each a day will get to be harsh on your body. those 2 compounds are secret weapon drugs! I guess you could run the tren for the last 6 weeks leading up to your show and the masteron the last 4 weeks combined with the tren, but I wouldn't stack both tren and masteron daily at 100/100 for more than 4 weeks that is all it should take to get super ripped for a show. or just to look good for the summer. HGH you can run all year but watch out for those highly androgenic compounds like tren and masteron. you will get addicted to that look. be careful at very most run them for 6 weeks at a 100/100 ratio. but I highly suggest just 4 weeks. but the 1-1 ratio is correct. I wouldn't go 100mg tren-50mg masteron go 100mg-100mg. I am not you so you do what you want. but just be careful.one life/one body  
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 10, 2012, 08:14:55 AM
Kind of an ingnorant question but how do you tell if you have prostate sides? Does it became painful and swollen in that area?
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: makaveli25 on February 10, 2012, 08:17:21 AM
The title says masteron acetate? I think you are talking about masteron propionate. i would run it 100/100. but it is highly androgenic just like tren. I swear you can really see the magic of masteron when you hit 6% and or lower then it is just a amazing compound you get striations everywhere. off the hook vascularity, veins show up in places you have never had them show up before, same with the striations. great drug to get your glutes striated-no homo. Masteron will also keep you very strong when dieting real hard. alot of people lose alot of strength whyen dieting but if you are running masteron you do not lose strength gains at all! It makes your delts pop. it makes you rock hard. very under-rated compound! and that is because the people who use it are just not lean enough guy who are 15-20% will not get the same response as a guy who is 6% or less. I would run it maybe for 4 weeks up until your competition but tren and masteron are just 2 extremely potent androgenic steroids!

 I would not use either of them for longer 4 weeks out from your competition then stop using them for awhile. masteron and tren are just to androgenic to be running for months! I think it is just best to us them for the last four weeks leading up to your show, win your show and drop them both and take a break. save the rest for the summer months. running tren and masteron being as andrognic as they are and running 1-1 ratio 100mg of each a day will get to be harsh on your body. those 2 compounds are secret weapon drugs! I guess you could run the tren for the last 6 weeks leading up to your show and the masteron the last 4 weeks combined with the tren, but I wouldn't stack both tren and masteron daily at 100/100 for more than 4 weeks that is all it should take to get super ripped for a show. or just to look good for the summer. HGH you can run all year but watch out for those highly androgenic compounds like tren and masteron. you will get addicted to that look. be careful at very most run them for 6 weeks at a 100/100 ratio. but I highly suggest just 4 weeks. but the 1-1 ratio is correct. I wouldn't go 100mg tren-50mg masteron go 100mg-100mg. I am not you so you do what you want. but just be careful.one life/one body  

Masteron with test really isn't harsh. I ran it for 3-4 months at a time without a break. Not super high doses but I didn't get any kind of sides at all except a little acne on my back.

I kind of use it in the place of tren I really can't stand tren. I did a nice recomp cycle last summer with test and masteron. Masteron doesn't burn fat but It seemed like it made it easier. My waist got a lot smaller.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: MrBigandCut on February 10, 2012, 08:33:09 AM
Masteron with test really isn't harsh. I ran it for 3-4 months at a time without a break. Not super high doses but I didn't get any kind of sides at all except a little acne on my back.

I kind of use it in the place of tren I really can't stand tren. I did a nice recomp cycle last summer with test and masteron. Masteron doesn't burn fat but It seemed like it made it easier. My waist got a lot smaller.

Yes I am running it as my cruise dose with the anavar and so far it has been good! Still holding same weight but getting leaner!!  :)
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: whitewidow on February 11, 2012, 04:04:07 AM
Kind of an ingnorant question but how do you tell if you have prostate sides? Does it became painful and swollen in that area?

takes longer to piss and when you do piss it hurts. plus you feel like you have to piss alot more than usual
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: gatorr on February 11, 2012, 12:15:54 PM
Yup had those sides on mast. Temporary as when i went off after my show the sides stopped. If you really want to run mast a long time get a script for something like floweze as it really does work.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: Nasty Nate on February 11, 2012, 12:29:50 PM
takes longer to piss and when you do piss it hurts. plus you feel like you have to piss alot more than usual

I got this on masteron! I thought it was the tren, but right now im running tren and dont have those issues when i piss, only when i was taking mast.
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: Stavios on February 11, 2012, 08:00:35 PM
takes longer to piss and when you do piss it hurts. plus you feel like you have to piss alot more than usual

what sucks with that is that those can be the symptoms of pretty much every health related problem

 ;D

aaaaaaaaa fucking health, I'd love to be invincible
Title: Re: masteron ace to tren ace ratio question...
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on February 12, 2012, 05:28:15 PM
Yeah, doesn't anyone else have this concern?

If it were not for that I'd probably run way more than just 50mg EOD. After this vial I'm dropping it and just going with tren and EQ. I'm going to pin 75mg of tren ace and 300mg of EQ EOD and a ml of test maybe once a week. After every vial of masteron I usually take a break. I keep my blood pressure at a safe level but I don't get blood work anymore (no point, I run low doses and it's always clean results) and my damn prostate is the one other thing that concerns me.

I love the old 50/50/50mg of test prop, tren ace and masteron. Just that little bit of masteron makes it feel like you're taking double the test and tren. At least double... feels fucking great and makes you look great too.

I love that blend but its 100/100/100