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Title: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Voland on February 09, 2012, 03:07:37 PM
Have you realized that when you go heavy on the bench you tend to drive you elbows forward, to the side, like a powerlifter bench? wrong.
same happens when you do lat pulldowns or pullups, when the set gets heavier you drive you elbows forward. Wrong.
In the curls, when it gets heavy you drive your elbows out, i've seen this countless times on hammer curls. Wrong.

they key is keeping the elbow positioning. Today i did back and i the pulldowns i focused on keeping the elbows out and perpendicular to the torso. Got a greater pump in the lats and over upper and middle back.

same for chest, elbows out.

for curls, elbows in.
want mass? elbows are the key.
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: WOOO on February 09, 2012, 03:16:55 PM
hmmm

I would say hands are the key... if you can't hold the weight it doesn't matter where you put your elbows...  ;D
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: johnnynoname on February 09, 2012, 03:18:48 PM
Have you realized that when you go heavy on the bench you tend to drive you elbows forward, to the side, like a powerlifter bench? wrong.
same happens when you do lat pulldowns or pullups, when the set gets heavier you drive you elbows forward. Wrong.
In the curls, when it gets heavy you drive your elbows out, i've seen this countless times on hammer curls. Wrong.

they key is keeping the elbow positioning. Today i did back and i the pulldowns i focused on keeping the elbows out and perpendicular to the torso. Got a greater pump in the lats and over upper and middle back.

same for chest, elbows out.

for curls, elbows in.
want mass? elbows are the key.


you know you don't have to always press the "new topic" button, right?


(/TrollFed)
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Voland on February 09, 2012, 03:20:24 PM
you know you don't have to always press the "new topic" button, right?


(/TrollFed)

You mom told me i could.  ;D
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Brocty on February 09, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
Key is to get a nice arch in the back, pop the chest out and keep them elbows tight.  Elbows out flat back too much damn shoulders
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: johnnynoname on February 09, 2012, 03:22:42 PM
You mom told me i could.  ;D


my mom is dead.....


                             ,,,,,,,,,,,,to me
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: dr.chimps on February 09, 2012, 03:23:00 PM
Lecturing like Coach gets real old, fast.
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Voland on February 09, 2012, 03:31:01 PM
Lecturing like Coach gets real old, fast.

You curse will be lack of mass.  :'(
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: wes on February 09, 2012, 03:32:31 PM
Thanks for sharing.
::)
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 09, 2012, 03:33:15 PM
Spot on! New Charles Glass in the making  ;D
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Voland on February 09, 2012, 03:35:47 PM
Spot on! New Charles Glass in the making  ;D

charly learnt everything from me, except that beggar haircut.  ;D
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Voland on February 09, 2012, 03:40:01 PM
Thanks for sharing.
::)

Yet in your next back session you will keep the elbows out.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-16oSK9SDm-k/TmuPQUIdAxI/AAAAAAAADHY/W0nBa2AZevs/s1600/old+man+gym.jpg)
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 09, 2012, 04:20:12 PM
You should rename this thread "The key to injury".
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: diamondcut on February 10, 2012, 01:58:25 AM
elbows out is a quick way to tear a pec on the flat bench


the only way i like to do flat bench is with elbows in, dave tate style
i actually feel thats the best for my chest as well, maybe due to my physiological bone structure and kinetics


elbows flared out i feel puts too much strain on the delt and pec tie in...
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: BigCyp on February 10, 2012, 04:10:27 AM
You should rename this thread 'how to be a c u n t' since i'm sure you would have some insight
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 10, 2012, 06:00:51 AM
elbows out is a quick way to tear a pec on the flat bench


the only way i like to do flat bench is with elbows in, dave tate style
i actually feel thats the best for my chest as well, maybe due to my physiological bone structure and kinetics


elbows flared out i feel puts too much strain on the delt and pec tie in...

I agree, lowering your elbows on nipple height (no homo that is) lowers the stress on the front delts. I see many people doing machine chest presses with a low seat. For most equipment brands is best to adjust the seat as high as possible.
BTW, bench presses are delt destroyers in the wrong way. Most machines also suck, esp the ones without an unilateral option.
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 06:15:23 AM
On any type of rowing exercise,it is much better to attempt to push the elbows back,as opposed to just pulling the weight up.........on pulldowns,attempt to pull with the elbows first........kind of pushing them downward instead of yanking with the hands and biceps.

Of course a bit of "controlled cheating" is always acceptable when going heavy.

As far as curls go,if I`m doing seated db curls with the 60`s or 70`s which is very heavy for me,I highly doubt if I`m gonna` try to keep my elbows pinned to my sides................... ......I find lighter weight on curls much more productive anyway.  ;D
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: aesthetics on February 10, 2012, 06:18:22 AM
elbows flared on bench with wide grip absolutely kills the pecs. great way to get an injury though
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: wes on February 10, 2012, 06:20:08 AM
elbows flared on bench with wide grip absolutely kills the pecs. great way to get an injury though
10-12 reps build better pecs on benching.......other than that,it`s just an ego booster and a shoulder injury waiting to happen unless you have a natural propensity to be a great bencher and you respond well to the exercise.
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: aesthetics on February 10, 2012, 06:21:57 AM
i think going heavy for upper body compound exercises works best and for lower body 10+ reps is the best
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 10, 2012, 11:18:04 AM
I adore dumbbell presses, especially low incline. It's all a pec needs..
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 10, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
I adore dumbbell presses, especially low incline. It's all a pec needs..

X2
Add some declines (higher fiber recruitment) and you have your bread & butter for the chest.
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 10, 2012, 11:29:49 AM
the key to mass =

TESTOSTERONA: THE HEART

TRENBOLONA: THE COCK

HGH: THE BRAIN


insulina masterona equipona anadrola propioneta
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 10, 2012, 11:33:09 AM
^- GH15 (small)nut hugger right there
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 10, 2012, 11:35:07 AM
^- GH15 (small)nut hugger right there

i like gh15 because when he says someone is not natural it is scientific fact
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 10, 2012, 11:38:31 AM
i like gh15 because when he says someone is not natural it is scientific fact

I almost spit out my meat & brown rice reading that ;D

Show me the scientific papers to state that claim ::)
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 10, 2012, 11:39:42 AM
I almost spit out my meat & brown rice reading that ;D

Show me the scientific papers to state that claim ::)

gh15 is god

and to americans god's word is basically science
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Voland on February 10, 2012, 11:39:52 AM
the key to mass =

TESTOSTERONA: THE HEART

TRENBOLONA: THE COCK

HGH: THE BRAIN


insulina masterona equipona anadrola propioneta

No primobolona?
pupillage fail.
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 10, 2012, 11:40:34 AM
i like gh15 because when he says someone is not natural it is scientific fact
If gh15 says that someone is natural that guy will look like some Somalian...
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: purenaturalstrength on February 10, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
If gh15 says that someone is natural that guy will look like some Somalian...

well of course at very low bodyfat there is nothing left of a human being
Title: Re: Elbows = key to mass
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 10, 2012, 01:52:47 PM
gh15 is god

and to americans god's word is basically science

^- Says someone, calling someone "delusional"  ::)

Posting GH15-nuthugging posts during a discussion about weightlifting techniques is like trolling. No need to remind us with daily it's-all-about-hormonas mantras, it gets boring  :-\