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Title: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: loco on February 10, 2012, 06:07:26 AM
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SAN DIEGO (AP) — The Marine Corps on Thursday once again did damage control after a photograph surfaced of a sniper team in Afghanistan posing in front of a flag with a logo resembling that of the notorious Nazi SS — a special unit that murdered millions of Jews, gypsies and others.

The Corps said in a statement that using the symbol was not acceptable, but the Marines in the photograph taken in September 2010 will not be disciplined because investigators determined it was a naïve mistake.
The Marines believed the SS symbol was meant to represent sniper scouts and never intended to be associated with a racist organization, said Maj. Gabrielle Chapin, a spokeswoman at Camp Pendleton, where the Marines were based.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-marines-posed-nazi-symbol-afghanistan-185101573.html
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Shockwave on February 10, 2012, 06:10:37 AM
Wow...
US SCOUT SNIPER Recon Marines posing in front of a flag with the letters SS -
who would have thought they could do something so evil? ::) ::)
Goddamn people are fucking stupid and easily offended.
Jesus Christ when will it end? And why the eff are stupid people always so quick to try and vilify the armed forces? Seems like theyre always trying to portray the image that theyre blood crazed death dealing savages who wake up every morning hoping for the chance to dismember their enemies and defile their civilizations (/movie quote)

This is retarded, and just another way for thin skinned fags to get offended.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2012, 06:18:24 AM
Cool Flag - looks like the Slayer shirts I wear much to the horror of others in the gym where I work out. 

Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Shockwave on February 10, 2012, 06:36:03 AM
Cool Flag - looks like the Slayer shirts I wear much to the horror of others in the gym where I work out. 


1st thing I thought too; looks like a Slayer logo.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: mik1111 on February 10, 2012, 06:58:23 AM
should have learnt more history
real stupid asses, all they know is how to play shoot em ups
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2012, 07:28:57 AM
Very strange in a squad full of certified military badasses like that... nobody would know about the origin of the "SS" logo.



Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: B_B_C on February 10, 2012, 07:38:44 AM
Wow...US SCOUT SNIPER Recon Marines posing in front of a flag with the letters SS -
who would have thought they could do something so evil? ::) ::)
Goddamn people are fucking stupid and easily offended.
Jesus Christ when will it end? And why the eff are stupid people always so quick to try and vilify the armed forces? Seems like theyre always trying to portray the image that theyre blood crazed death dealing savages who wake up every morning hoping for the chance to dismember their enemies and defile their civilizations (/movie quote)
This is retarded, and just another way for thin skinned fags to get offended.

perhaps but anybody who respects the military should be asking if they (the military) study history let alone militry designations and graphics. One must also wonder at the chances of either bringing (from home?) or making (in situ) such a flag and setting it as a photo prop  without anybody (even among the minimum 10 marines photographed) asking questions as to why etc.

Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Option D on February 10, 2012, 07:41:35 AM
Amazing..

And we all gonna sit here and act like we dont know what that means
"Uhhhh looks like the slayer symbol" Tha fuck out of here

If black soliders posed near a Panther or a fist.... your goofy ass would pass out..

Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 10, 2012, 07:46:47 AM
Amazing..

And we all gonna sit here and act like we dont know what that means
"Uhhhh looks like the slayer symbol" Tha fuck out of here

If black soliders posed near a Panther or a fist.... your goofy ass would pass out..



 ::)  ::)  ::)


If they were over there fighting on my behalf - I would not begrudge them that at all.  if it made them better fighters  - fine w me.   


BTW - here is a slayer shirt I was talking about. 



http://store.slayer.net/shop.cfm/pk/category/ac/list/cid/406692



Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: B_B_C on February 10, 2012, 07:49:40 AM
::)  ::)  ::)
If they were over there fighting on my behalf - I would not begrudge them that at all.  if it made them better fighters  - fine w me.   
BTW - here is a slayer shirt I was talking about. 
http://store.slayer.net/shop.cfm/pk/category/ac/list/cid/406692

well its clear where slayer derived their graphics from
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Shockwave on February 10, 2012, 07:59:17 AM
Amazing..

And we all gonna sit here and act like we dont know what that means
"Uhhhh looks like the slayer symbol" Tha fuck out of here

If black soliders posed near a Panther or a fist.... your goofy ass would pass out..


I wouldn't give a fuck if the logo fit their unit or whatever - its not like they're posing by a swastika, the lightning SS logo has been used all over the fucking place. - its not a Nazi only logo for fucks sake. It was the logo for a German military unit. Big fucking deal.

If they were making Nazi salutes - or if in your example, they were making the Panther salutes - hell yeah Id denounce them both.
But these people are trying to make it sound like these Marines INTENTIONALLY posed with this flag to liken themselves to the Nazi SS division - which is fucking rediculous.
For anyone with a brain, you can see what happened Scout Snipers - the most elite MOS in the Marine Corp - posing with a flag with the letters "SS" as lighting bolts. Yeah, Im sure theyre harkening back to those evil Nazi's, since theyre obviously "heiling hitler" and with Swastika's all over the place.

Cmon man.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Option D on February 10, 2012, 08:23:21 AM
I wouldn't give a fuck if the logo fit their unit or whatever - its not like they're posing by a swastika, the lightning SS logo has been used all over the fucking place. - its not a Nazi only logo for fucks sake. It was the logo for a German military unit. Big fucking deal.
If they were making Nazi salutes - or if in your example, they were making the Panther salutes - hell yeah Id denounce them both.
But these people are trying to make it sound like these Marines INTENTIONALLY posed with this flag to liken themselves to the Nazi SS division - which is fucking rediculous.
For anyone with a brain, you can see what happened Scout Snipers - the most elite MOS in the Marine Corp - posing with a flag with the letters "SS" as lighting bolts. Yeah, Im sure theyre harkening back to those evil Nazi's, since theyre obviously "heiling hitler" and with Swastika's all over the place.
Cmon man.
Check this out.. I dont give a fuck about what they have.. My brother was Marine Force Recon. Hes been a Marine since 1992 so ive met a lot of special forces guys and they were all cool. But what im saying is.. the same fucks that take a Nuclear Symbol and call it Islamic symbol and cry all on Fox news... are saying "well um..uhh.. this is just 2 random S's together.. nothing to see here move along"
 http://www.rightsidenews.com/201004159549/editorial/us-opinion-and-editorial/nuclear-summit-logo-is-an-islamic-shaped-crescent.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2493149/posts
http://errortheory.blogspot.com/2010/04/nuclear-summit-logo-uses-islamic-shaped.html
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: B_B_C on February 10, 2012, 11:37:24 AM
Quote from: Shockwave link=topic=414580.date=1328889557
For anyone with a brain, you can see what happened Scout Snipers - the most elite MOS in the Marine Corp - posing with a flag with the letters "SS" as lighting bolts. Yeah, Im sure theyre harkening back to those evil Nazi's, since theyre obviously "heiling hitler" and with Swastika's all over the place.
Cmon man.

its not a swastika (Nazi or Sanskrit), star of David, Tricolour, Red Crescent, pride, freedom or UN flag etc
its an SS (Schutzstaffel) flag.
Sombody intentionally hung that immediatly next to the Stars and Stripes. Ten US Marine Soldiers intentionally posed in front of both flags while bearing arms, in uniform and wearing shades

The resulting fuss may be out of proportion to the immediate event but
at least ten marines are guilty of either naïvety or stupidity (or maybe even both?).
Pity the Military inspector that had to decide either of the above


Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2012, 11:46:48 AM
perhaps but anybody who respects the military should be asking if they (the military) study history let alone militry designations and graphics. One must also wonder at the chances of either bringing (from home?) or making (in situ) such a flag and setting it as a photo prop  without anybody (even among the minimum 10 marines photographed) asking questions as to why etc.

Yeah, their statement "we didn't know..." is a little weak lol.

Seriously, I dont care if snipers killing for the USA have a flag with hotcakes & mcgriddles.  They kill bad guys, they can have any flag they want.

But yeah, their lie is a little weak haha.  If they're snipers, they have no doubt studied a bit of WWII... everyone knows that SS logo repesents this elite paramilitary organization...
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Shockwave on February 10, 2012, 12:00:10 PM
its not a swastika (Nazi or Sanskrit), star of David, Tricolour, Red Crescent, pride, freedom or UN flag etc
its an SS (Schutzstaffel) flag.
Sombody intentionally hung that immediatly next to the Stars and Stripes. Ten US Marine Soldiers intentionally posed in front of both flags while bearing arms, in uniform and wearing shades

The resulting fuss may be out of proportion to the immediate event but
at least ten marines are guilty of either naïvety or stupidity (or maybe even both?).
Pity the Military inspector that had to decide either of the above



Im aware of wha it is.
My point was that it was more than likely an innocent mistake.
Its probably more of naivety than anything.
And you never know the whole deal behind the story - such as in the past, military units have captured such things in possesion by the enemy - and have taken pics with it.
I dont know the whole story - and neither does anyone else, nor will anyone else ever probably know the TRUE story.
My point is - its being blown way out of proportion - these Marines arent throwing up the bladed Hitler salute, theyre not invoking anything Nazi - the only thing their is a flag with a logo thats either the same or highly similar to a german military unit that operated under the Nazi regime - with the same initials as their unit.

In all probability, they simply posed with it because it had the Scout Sniper initials in it, the picture was probably meant for themselves and not for everyone else to get ahold of. Clearly theyre not trying to invoke parallels between themselves and the Nazi regime.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: B_B_C on February 10, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: Shockwave link=topic=414580.date=1328904010
. Clearly theyre not trying to invoke parallels between themselves and the Nazi regime.

Unfortunatly nobody but them self will know this with absolute certainty
The defence being offered only reinforce the perception of naïvety or/and stupidity.
Neither of these are useful military characteristics.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: headhuntersix on February 10, 2012, 02:35:34 PM
The Marines already looked into this....Scout Snipers have used that since 1983 atleast. From what I've heard its from Kiss....so who friggen cares.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: B_B_C on February 10, 2012, 04:51:51 PM
The Marines already looked into this....Scout Snipers have used that since 1983 atleast. From what I've heard its from Kiss....so who friggen cares.

and in the past 28 years absolutly nobody in the Marines either knew or gave a feck about the Nazi link?
in a country that practically invented the holocaust rememberance movement? What do they be teaching officers in military school?
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: pedro01 on February 10, 2012, 05:21:11 PM
Honestly - why can't the media leave these guys alone?
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on February 10, 2012, 05:42:45 PM
How the hell would they know.  They prob thought it was a "Slayer" symbol used twice for Scout Snipers but quite frankly they are making it sound like they stood in front of a swaztika.... ::)
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on February 10, 2012, 06:01:57 PM
Im pretty sure that says KISS.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VW9lwsoEGIw/Tggr2oS9AdI/AAAAAAAAASI/LWPevZDyzV8/s1600/kiss-logo.jpg)
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Shockwave on February 10, 2012, 06:28:28 PM
Im pretty sure that says KISS.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-VW9lwsoEGIw/Tggr2oS9AdI/AAAAAAAAASI/LWPevZDyzV8/s1600/kiss-logo.jpg)
Kiss, Slayer, etc.
It may have been a Nazi military logo decades and decades ago, but in this context, it has NOTHING to do with Nazi's.
Just another case of whiney bitches getting offended over nothing.
People cant step a foot out doors now days without offending someone.
Fuck people.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: 240 is Back on February 10, 2012, 06:33:58 PM
i dunno... i think we're accepting them playing dumb cause they're "our guys".

If the afghan army was carrying NAZI elite military flags, I don't think we'd be saying it was a rock band reference... we'd probably be saying these folks are emulating or admiring a group that did a lot of violent things in secrecy.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Hugo Chavez on February 10, 2012, 07:10:19 PM
Anybody else just a little sick and tired of the (OMG panic attacks) over anything that looks like it could be related to Nazi Germany? Give it a rest, who gives a shit.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Naggash on February 10, 2012, 07:19:41 PM
Anybody else just a little sick and tired of the (OMG panic attacks) over anything that looks like it could be related to Nazi Germany? Give it a rest, who gives a shit.

x2
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: sync pulse on February 10, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
i dunno... i think we're accepting them playing dumb cause they're "our guys".

If the afghan army was carrying NAZI elite military flags, I don't think we'd be saying it was a rock band reference... we'd probably be saying these folks are emulating or admiring a group that did a lot of violent things in secrecy.


Playing?...
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Shockwave on February 10, 2012, 07:27:11 PM
i dunno... i think we're accepting them playing dumb cause they're "our guys".

If the afghan army was carrying NAZI elite military flags, I don't think we'd be saying it was a rock band reference... we'd probably be saying these folks are emulating or admiring a group that did a lot of violent things in secrecy.

Itd be one thing if that logo was ONLY a nazi logo, but it has been used ALL over the place for decades, probably even before them.
The swastika is universally the Nazi logo - not the SS. Fuck, should we ban the german flag because its indicative of the Nazis's? Tell them to stop speaking German, cause its what the Nazi's spoke? Where does it end?
Again - its not the swastika, so stop being so dramatic. I wouldnt give a fuck if the afghan army had a military unit with the letters SS and they used that flag. If they were flying a swastika - then yes.

Again, your closet liberal self comes out... haha
You dont want to admit to yourself that youre actually one of them, so you find a way to word all your posts so that it seems like youre just being rational - but after a while it just gets to the point where its so obvious to everyone else that its just sad 240 - you need to get help and come to grips with the fact that you are, in fact, a hardcore liberal.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Option D on February 11, 2012, 04:49:24 AM
Like i said.. i dont give a shit... but its funny that the same fucks that came out and said Obama was a secret muslim because these 2 symbols were the same... are drawing absolutley zero correlation between the symbols of ss men and the scout snipers... and these are actually the EXACT symbols... the Nuclear Symbol and the Muslim cresent moon is a reach and some idiots still found a way to the two


Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2012, 04:59:08 AM
Like i said.. i dont give a shit... but its funny that the same fucks that came out and said Obama was a secret muslim because these 2 symbols were the same... are drawing absolutley zero correlation between the symbols of ss men and the scout snipers... and these are actually the EXACT symbols... the Nuclear Symbol and the Muslim cresent moon is a reach and some idiots still found a way to the two




secret?     LMFAO!!!    "my Muslim faith".   " prettiest sound I ever heard was Muslim call to prayer".     Yeah real secret there chief! 
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Option D on February 11, 2012, 05:13:50 AM
secret?     LMFAO!!!    "my Muslim faith".   " prettiest sound I ever heard was Muslim call to prayer".     Yeah real secret there chief!  

Ok so let me get this right... he has a slip of the tounge which he admitted to.. when he said my muslim faith... that makes him a muslim.. Not the fact that (AS YOU SAID) he sat in a racist  CHURCH for 25 years... no that means absolutley nothing.. he is still a muslim from the statement.. The fact that you called REVREND (that is a leader of a Christian Church correct) Wright his close friend.. Noooooo in no way can that mean he is a Christian.. 26 years to 1 line..

And youre a Lawyer?
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Dos Equis on February 11, 2012, 09:34:27 PM
Oh brother.  People are crying about this?   ::)
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: MB_722 on February 11, 2012, 09:55:20 PM
how many Jews are in KISS?

I find it intriguing that Gene Simmons would use that font.
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 11, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
how many Jews are in KISS?

I find it intriguing that Gene Simmons would use that font.


Money and profit comes first bro. 
Title: Re: US Marines posed with Nazi symbol in Afghanistan
Post by: Option D on February 13, 2012, 06:48:51 AM

Money and profit comes first bro. 


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