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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: haider on February 12, 2012, 04:48:09 PM
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Trailer of his new workout DVD RELOADED:
Layne Norton IFPA Gaspari Pro Classic Routine:
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Chest and Back POWER Training
Part 1:
Part 2:
Legs POWER training
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i will not say anything negative. i say kudos to him from being able to market himself and make money from sport (cult)
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i will not say anything negative. i say kudos to him from being able to market himself and make money from sport (cult)
yes positivity is key for making gains bro.
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must be the xtend 8)
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Sacrifice what? Does he mean like, integrity? Like lying to thousands of impressionable douchebags and fool them into thinking you're not using drugs?
If that's what he's talking about it looks like he's made lots of sacrifices.
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(http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/9/5/128966282864572877.jpg)
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Sacrifice what? Does he mean like, integrity? Like lying to thousands of impressionable douchebags and fool them into thinking you're not using drugs?
If that's what he's talking about it looks like he's made lots of sacrifices.
check out his posing vid at the top of the page, and reconsider your position. just interested in your opinion; dont want this to turn into a natural vs unnatural battle with all the gh15 loonateeks.
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Sacrifice what?
Haha I was about to post this.
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check out his posing vid at the top of the page, and reconsider your position. just interested in your opinion; dont want this to turn into a natural vs unnatural battle with all the gh15 loonateeks.
I'll give it a fair observation. Don't hate me for not having too much faith in him though. ;)
Haha I was about to post this.
Maybe he means the kind of dickhead "sacrifice" where you bring a styrofoam cooler to your dying grandmother's family dinner and munch out on cold, boiled chicken breasts and broccoli while grandma's heart crumbles in her frail chest. Maybe that kind of sacrifice.
I skipped out on a few family dinners and desserts back in the day. Didn't drink a lick for years and slowly snapped out of it. Now I eat anything, drink anything and life my life to the fullest... oh, and I look about 9000 times better than I did when I was a natural douchebag who "made sacrifices". No more sacrifices, no more regrets, lots more smiles and syringes full of trenbologna LOL ;D
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Maybe he means the kind of dickhead "sacrifice" where you bring a styrofoam cooler to your dying grandmother's family dinner and munch out on cold, boiled chicken breasts and broccoli while grandma's heart crumbles in her frail chest. Maybe that kind of sacrifice.
I skipped out on a few family dinners and desserts back in the day. Didn't drink a lick for years and slowly snapped out of it. Now I eat anything, drink anything and life my life to the fullest... oh, and I look about 9000 times better than I did when I was a natural douchebag who "made sacrifices". No more sacrifices, no more regrets, lots more smiles and syringes full of trenbologna LOL ;D
Haha I was very delusional too, "I'm not fat, I'm bulking" lol. ::)
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Haha I was very delusional too, "I'm not fat, I'm bulking" lol. ::)
Tell me about it.
I was never fat in my life but was pretty out-to-lunch when I hit that permabulker stage. Never knew when to put down the oatmeal shakes.
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Tell me about it.
I was never fat in my life but was pretty out-to-lunch when I hit that permabulker stage. Never knew when to put down the oatmeal shakes.
I swear I did look better after my first 2 years of training, eating whatever I felt like, than when I started reading this nonsense you find on websites-shitty forums-mags. Thanks to god getbig is so honest and we can talk like that. In most forums we would get banned.
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Maybe he means the kind of dickhead "sacrifice" where you bring a styrofoam cooler to your dying grandmother's family dinner and munch out on cold, boiled chicken breasts and broccoli while grandma's heart crumbles in her frail chest. Maybe that kind of sacrifice.
I skipped out on a few family dinners and desserts back in the day. Didn't drink a lick for years and slowly snapped out of it. Now I eat anything, drink anything and life my life to the fullest... oh, and I look about 9000 times better than I did when I was a natural douchebag who "made sacrifices". No more sacrifices, no more regrets, lots more smiles and syringes full of trenbologna LOL ;D
YESSSS
This to the T brotha!!!
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I'll give it a fair observation. Don't hate me for not having too much faith in him though. ;)
Maybe he means the kind of dickhead "sacrifice" where you bring a styrofoam cooler to your dying grandmother's family dinner and munch out on cold, boiled chicken breasts and broccoli while grandma's heart crumbles in her frail chest. Maybe that kind of sacrifice.
I skipped out on a few family dinners and desserts back in the day. Didn't drink a lick for years and slowly snapped out of it. Now I eat anything, drink anything and life my life to the fullest... oh, and I look about 9000 times better than I did when I was a natural douchebag who "made sacrifices". No more sacrifices, no more regrets, lots more smiles and syringes full of trenbologna LOL ;D
Not to start shit, but do you think its not so much that you started eating like shit and enjoying things....but rather you went on a boat load of shit?
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The way he talks you'd think he was about to win the 100m sprint at the Olympics, or climb Everest, or find a cure for a cancer. Instead, he puts a pair of panties on and poses for dudes that clap him. Serious business.
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Not to start shit, but do you think its not so much that you started eating like shit and enjoying things....but rather you went on a boat load of shit?
No worries, no offense taken. Very fair question too.
I wasn't on any gear when I started realizing how simple the concept of diet truly is. It's a matter of perspective. There is no "shitty" food, just food with different macronutrient profiles and different quality ingredients. Eating something loaded with trans fat, chemicals and an abundance of calories isn't healthy but I also wouldn't say it's junk food per se. There are just a lot of way better choices. But if I can squeeze that "junk food", as some people would call it, into my diet and still reach my goals then who is the fool?
I'm shredded like a cock and relatively jacked. Not IFBB pro jacked, but natural-liar-bodybuilding-competitor jacked. I can diet down in 24-48 hours and be photoshoot ready and I eat McDonalds, big bowls of rice, ice cream, Nutella, Nestle Quik, every type of meat and foods people might consider "junk food" or bad food. Foods are just puzzle pieces. Some fit together easier than others, but they all fit if you're not a retard.
When you're on gear and especially GH, your body runs like a finely tuned machine. It puts on muscle faster, it burns fat faster and it's a lot easier to maintain your composition. If you eat as appropriately as possible you'll see an even greater return for your investment. But your body's a lot more forgiving on PEDs and if you eat out of tune it won't get stored as fat as easily, and your muscle will not break down as quickly. You still have to work pretty decently and eat "good" most of the time, but it's a LOT more forgiving when you're on PEDs. Much, much more forgiving.
You can break it down into even more simpler terms with the whole calories in, calories out perspective. There are of course some hairs you could split with this, but for the most part it's pretty bang on. Eat lots, get big. Eat less, get small. If you start fine tuning things like minding your macronutrient breakdown and make sure there's a more specified alignment then you're on the right path. And on gear it's easier and the opportunities expand meaning you can get leaner and more heavily muscled than what's possible naturally... I will stop now because I took some migraine meds earlier and they started kicking in hard half way through this post lol but ranting aside, you get the picture, right? This is dead simple and I'm basically a retard, but not the type of retard who listens to the BS in the magazines. That stuff is absolutely fake and a fucking scam. Bodybuilders don't work hard. They just take more and more drugs. There is a science behind it but it's a fire you can throw drugs at to fuel an inferno of peeled muscle with very little effort.
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"Will you sacrifice to win" is probably one of the most bad ass quotes every mumbled!
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No worries, no offense taken. Very fair question too.
I wasn't on any gear when I started realizing how simple the concept of diet truly is. It's a matter of perspective. There is no "shitty" food, just food with different macronutrient profiles and different quality ingredients. Eating something loaded with trans fat, chemicals and an abundance of calories isn't healthy but I also wouldn't say it's junk food per se. There are just a lot of way better choices. But if I can squeeze that "junk food", as some people would call it, into my diet and still reach my goals then who is the fool?
I'm shredded like a cock and relatively jacked. Not IFBB pro jacked, but natural-liar-bodybuilding-competitor jacked. I can diet down in 24-48 hours and be photoshoot ready and I eat McDonalds, big bowls of rice, ice cream, Nutella, Nestle Quik, every type of meat and foods people might consider "junk food" or bad food. Foods are just puzzle pieces. Some fit together easier than others, but they all fit if you're not a retard.
When you're on gear and especially GH, your body runs like a finely tuned machine. It puts on muscle faster, it burns fat faster and it's a lot easier to maintain your composition. If you eat as appropriately as possible you'll see an even greater return for your investment. But your body's a lot more forgiving on PEDs and if you eat out of tune it won't get stored as fat as easily, and your muscle will not break down as quickly. You still have to work pretty decently and eat "good" most of the time, but it's a LOT more forgiving when you're on PEDs. Much, much more forgiving.
You can break it down into even more simpler terms with the whole calories in, calories out perspective. There are of course some hairs you could split with this, but for the most part it's pretty bang on. Eat lots, get big. Eat less, get small. If you start fine tuning things like minding your macronutrient breakdown and make sure there's a more specified alignment then you're on the right path. And on gear it's easier and the opportunities expand meaning you can get leaner and more heavily muscled than what's possible naturally... I will stop now because I took some migraine meds earlier and they started kicking in hard half way through this post lol but ranting aside, you get the picture, right? This is dead simple and I'm basically a retard, but not the type of retard who listens to the BS in the magazines. That stuff is absolutely fake and a fucking scam. Bodybuilders don't work hard. They just take more and more drugs. There is a science behind it but it's a fire you can throw drugs at to fuel an inferno of peeled muscle with very little effort.
Absolutely...even on my bullshit `100mg/wk HRT I notice that its easier to be leaner than when I wasn't taking anything. I have changed my whole perspective though too. I was always the clean clean clean thing....then one day I just said fuck it and made a whole day out of it with one meal during the week. I don't sweat it if I happen to deviate due to some work lunch or something like that. I will have a drink during the week at night when relaxing while reading....never used to do that. I agree that ther more shit you are on....the less hard you have to work if you want to keep growing a lot.
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Absolutely...even on my bullshit `100mg/wk HRT I notice that its easier to be leaner than when I wasn't taking anything. I have changed my whole perspective though too. I was always the clean clean clean thing....then one day I just said fuck it and made a whole day out of it with one meal during the week. I don't sweat it if I happen to deviate due to some work lunch or something like that. I will have a drink during the week at night when relaxing while reading....never used to do that. I agree that ther more shit you are on....the less hard you have to work if you want to keep growing a lot.
Nice, man. Nice.
You know what was the proverbial icing on the cake too? When I had first really binged out on junk food after doing the whole clean diet thing for years. Sometimes I'd eat sour candies post workout as it's pure sugar, but I mean JUNK, JUNK, JUNNNNNK food. Chocolate and all that shit.... well, I woke up the next day shredded as FUCK!!! I had crackhead hooker veins all over my abs, delts were capped, bicep vein was screaming down my arm like big black cock veins, legs were diced up and covered in veins - That's what happened. ;D
Granted, you can't do that all the time but it's a brutal irony that the foods that are supposed to ruin your physique can make you look so good. Pure magazine bullshit, eh? When you learn how your body responds it's amazing at the things you discover. The other inherent benefit to PEDs is that your body changes so fast, you can actually observe it and see what happens. When you're natty it takes weeks or months, so you never really know what the fuck it is you're doing right or wrong.
A side from a few moderate and very negligible side affects, PEDs are just the only way to go. If you want to resemble even a shadow of the world's worst bodybuilder you need to at least run a couple hundred mgs of tren each week or you're just fooling yourself. You can look good natty, but you'll never turn heads. 8)
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I'm shredded like a cock and relatively jacked. Not IFBB pro jacked, but natural-liar-bodybuilding-competitor jacked.
lmao
haha I'm dying here ;D
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I'm willing to sacrifice Layme - for the greater good of humanity.
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he's right about training bodyparts twice a week though.
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Nice, man. Nice.
You know what was the proverbial icing on the cake too? When I had first really binged out on junk food after doing the whole clean diet thing for years. Sometimes I'd eat sour candies post workout as it's pure sugar, but I mean JUNK, JUNK, JUNNNNNK food. Chocolate and all that shit.... well, I woke up the next day shredded as FUCK!!! I had crackhead hooker veins all over my abs, delts were capped, bicep vein was screaming down my arm like big black cock veins, legs were diced up and covered in veins - That's what happened. ;D
Granted, you can't do that all the time but it's a brutal irony that the foods that are supposed to ruin your physique can make you look so good. Pure magazine bullshit, eh? When you learn how your body responds it's amazing at the things you discover. The other inherent benefit to PEDs is that your body changes so fast, you can actually observe it and see what happens. When you're natty it takes weeks or months, so you never really know what the fuck it is you're doing right or wrong.
A side from a few moderate and very negligible side affects, PEDs are just the only way to go. If you want to resemble even a shadow of the world's worst bodybuilder you need to at least run a couple hundred mgs of tren each week or you're just fooling yourself. You can look good natty, but you'll never turn heads. 8)
Absolutely....even when bullshitting around with my training partner, I say "fuck me, you are on that much shit?? How do you know its legit? I think I will stick to my prescribed pee-on dose and be content to not call myself natural". He turns to me and says "Um, you're still natural bro. I think I leave more in a needle than you take..." HA HA
I dont think I will ever cross the next line and do the 500+mgs.....have to desire to be much bigger. Bad enough having the knees I do and now dealing with fucked up shoulder. I start to grow, I know the mental side will kick in and I will want to go more balls out.
It is funny to hear people comment about my cheat day....and then see how lean I am. Even my training partner talk about how much protein he takes in and I try and convince him that its not necessary....but who knows....with what he injects...
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I swear I did look better after my first 2 years of training, eating whatever I felt like, than when I started reading this nonsense you find on websites-shitty forums-mags. Thanks to god getbig is so honest and we can talk like that. In most forums we would get banned.
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but but he's going to war, ready to do battle on stage etc......hahahahaha moron
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Sacrifice what? Does he mean like, integrity?
lol x2
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win what?
"bodybuilding" "powerlifting" are unhealthy, puting the body under useless stress. Regular physical conditioning and controlled balanced diet are healthy.
Hapiness is linked to a healthy body and healthy mind, not to extreme behaviors and thoughts.
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"They said you were done." :D :D :D
"They said you had no chance." ::) ::) ::)
"Will you sacrifice to win?" ;D ;D ;D
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I believe Layne is a 100% natural
Possibly 100% down as well.
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Nice, man. Nice.
You know what was the proverbial icing on the cake too? When I had first really binged out on junk food after doing the whole clean diet thing for years. Sometimes I'd eat sour candies post workout as it's pure sugar, but I mean JUNK, JUNK, JUNNNNNK food. Chocolate and all that shit.... well, I woke up the next day shredded as FUCK!!! I had crackhead hooker veins all over my abs, delts were capped, bicep vein was screaming down my arm like big black cock veins, legs were diced up and covered in veins - That's what happened. ;D
Granted, you can't do that all the time but it's a brutal irony that the foods that are supposed to ruin your physique can make you look so good. Pure magazine bullshit, eh? When you learn how your body responds it's amazing at the things you discover. The other inherent benefit to PEDs is that your body changes so fast, you can actually observe it and see what happens. When you're natty it takes weeks or months, so you never really know what the fuck it is you're doing right or wrong.
A side from a few moderate and very negligible side affects, PEDs are just the only way to go. If you want to resemble even a shadow of the world's worst bodybuilder you need to at least run a couple hundred mgs of tren each week or you're just fooling yourself. You can look good natty, but you'll never turn heads. 8)
Exactly.
When I train with NO hormones and clean diet, I have a DECENT build...actually below average.
Then I bang in btn 200 and 300 mgs a week of whateva hrt plus 4iu (with a perscription)
Wham bam, COCK DIESL TIME!
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Here is the big question.....If he does use, it is in very small amounts....
What does he compete as?? Middleweight?
After looking at his physique, I may just believe he is natural and may just be as strong as an Ox
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yes he doesnt look that impressive
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He's natural. Look at him being dwarfed by Jewbaka Singerman:
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"They said you were done." :D :D :D
"They said you had no chance." ::) ::) ::)
"Will you sacrifice to win?" ;D ;D ;D
That's not the body of a juicer.
I don't understand why gh15 says he juices. He is tiny. He gets ripped through dedication and is very tiny. You can do that naturally. He's nothing impressive. He makes me glad i juiced.
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That's not the body of a juicer.
I don't understand why gh15 says he juices. He is tiny. He gets ripped through dedication and is very tiny. You can do that naturally. He's nothing impressive. He makes me glad i juiced.
HAHA!!! Good one!!
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One of the worst Filt in all the cult.
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Layne only looks good about a week or two out of the year and that's it. Pisssss poor response to hormones.
People say "you can look like that without juice!!!" and yeah, you can look like him when he's not competing but he's still on stuff. He has the look. There's a a few "looks" that you can have, and he has the piss-poor responder look in the off season. You can see the lines around the triceps, the poorly capped delts and sort of burnt-out-but-still-on-juice look. I don't know, someone else can probably explain it better but there is a certain look he still has in the off season where you can tell he's still cycling gear.
When he starts bringing in the short esters closer to a comp he starts looking more and more like a bodybuilder. When the halo and tren get higher and higher he finally starts looking good (I say this relatively speaking, he doesn't really look very good at all). He gets shredded for his comps and only a week out and on the day of, he looks decent. Not good, but muscled and conditioned. He has about the further thing away from a good bone structure and foundation that anyone who's bodybuilding can have. I actually feel bad for him in that regard. He has no tools to work with but still tries to be a bodybuilder. 3-4/10 people off the street can get trained and put on a drug regimen and will be a much, much better bodybuilder than Layne. If he were anyone else I'd give him props for sticking to it, but he's a bold faced fucking liar so no props for him. He's a delusional fuck.
I don't know, man... poor, Layne. He's so fucking delusional. He needs to stop training the way he trains and he needs to juice properly. Even with his extremely shitty genetics he can look a lot better throughout the year. He looks like an absolutely sad sack of shit 11 and a half months of the year. With so much attention on himself, he should really try looking better. I don't compete or anything but even I try looking good all-year round. You're not a bodybuilder in my opinion if you look like shit more often than not - You're just delusional and on the same drugs as other bodybuilders.
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Layne only looks good about a week or two out of the year and that's it. Pisssss poor response to hormones.
People say "you can look like that without juice!!!" and yeah, you can look like him when he's not competing but he's still on stuff. He has the look. There's a a few "looks" that you can have, and he has the piss-poor responder look in the off season. You can see the lines around the triceps, the poorly capped delts and sort of burnt-out-but-still-on-juice look. I don't know, someone else can probably explain it better but there is a certain look he still has in the off season where you can tell he's still cycling gear.
When he starts bringing in the short esters closer to a comp he starts looking more and more like a bodybuilder. When the halo and tren get higher and higher he finally starts looking good (I say this relatively speaking, he doesn't really look very good at all). He gets shredded for his comps and only a week out and on the day of, he looks decent. Not good, but muscled and conditioned. He has about the further thing away from a good bone structure and foundation that anyone who's bodybuilding can have. I actually feel bad for him in that regard. He has no tools to work with but still tries to be a bodybuilder. 3-4/10 people off the street can get trained and put on a drug regimen and will be a much, much better bodybuilder than Layne. If he were anyone else I'd give him props for sticking to it, but he's a bold faced fucking liar so no props for him. He's a delusional fuck.
I don't know, man... poor, Layne. He's so fucking delusional. He needs to stop training the way he trains and he needs to juice properly. Even with his extremely shitty genetics he can look a lot better throughout the year. He looks like an absolutely sad sack of shit 11 and a half months of the year. With so much attention on himself, he should really try looking better. I don't compete or anything but even I try looking good all-year round. You're not a bodybuilder in my opinion if you look like shit more often than not - You're just delusional and on the same drugs as other bodybuilders.
You might be right, but I hope you are not using the above "offseason" pics to judge his physique considering they were taken months after surgery to repair a pec tear with no upper body training during that time off obviously.
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You might be right, but I hope you are not using the above "offseason" pics to judge his physique considering they were taken months after surgery to repair a pec tear with no upper body training during that time off obviously.
No, I've followed Liar Nortrom for years and used to follow his shitty advices before I was awakened.
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virgin like grasp on reality
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you know what sucks
layne is much bigger than me
he uses a lot of roids
and he still doesn't look like a bodybuilder
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Layne only looks good about a week or two out of the year and that's it. Pisssss poor response to hormones.
People say "you can look like that without juice!!!" and yeah, you can look like him when he's not competing but he's still on stuff. He has the look. There's a a few "looks" that you can have, and he has the piss-poor responder look in the off season. You can see the lines around the triceps, the poorly capped delts and sort of burnt-out-but-still-on-juice look. I don't know, someone else can probably explain it better but there is a certain look he still has in the off season where you can tell he's still cycling gear.
When he starts bringing in the short esters closer to a comp he starts looking more and more like a bodybuilder. When the halo and tren get higher and higher he finally starts looking good (I say this relatively speaking, he doesn't really look very good at all). He gets shredded for his comps and only a week out and on the day of, he looks decent. Not good, but muscled and conditioned. He has about the further thing away from a good bone structure and foundation that anyone who's bodybuilding can have. I actually feel bad for him in that regard. He has no tools to work with but still tries to be a bodybuilder. 3-4/10 people off the street can get trained and put on a drug regimen and will be a much, much better bodybuilder than Layne. If he were anyone else I'd give him props for sticking to it, but he's a bold faced fucking liar so no props for him. He's a delusional fuck.
I don't know, man... poor, Layne. He's so fucking delusional. He needs to stop training the way he trains and he needs to juice properly. Even with his extremely shitty genetics he can look a lot better throughout the year. He looks like an absolutely sad sack of shit 11 and a half months of the year. With so much attention on himself, he should really try looking better. I don't compete or anything but even I try looking good all-year round. You're not a bodybuilder in my opinion if you look like shit more often than not - You're just delusional and on the same drugs as other bodybuilders.
when you look at how shitty he looks you say to yourself "hmm well he may just very well be natural."
but then you see the "transformations" he does where he gains/loses muscle and cuts down in fat, muscles extremely hard and full while at 4-5% bodyfat. he is definitely using something though it's either steroids in such low dosages or something else to beat the drug tests, i don't really know or care but he is not someone who can claim natural.
the picture 4 posts above your post that beverast posted is a good example. plus, no natural with his extremely horrible genetics is going to bypass his calculated genetic limits for arm and leg size without chemical enhancement. 5'10 with 18 1/2 inch arms when he has the bone structure of a small girl, give me a break, there is a lie somewhere in there, one way or another.
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Lets revisit this in 10 yrs when he can barely walk and has pinched/blown discs...it is impressive to lift that weight but long term.
I have a friend who was a natty, went 215 and single digits BF, used to do the 5 sets of 5 workouts, long story short, he went up to 420 on squat and 375 on bench. Fast forward now, rotator cuff problems, pinched nerves..for what...bragging rights?