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..and came across this. I'll be there at the end of April but damn what a facility. Having a great facility is a selling point for him..and me :P.
Check out the video.
http://www.utsports.com/tnfund/tnfund-football-training.html
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You can stare at as many brochures s you want, but sub-par grades don't open university doors.
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You can stare at as many brochures s you want, but sub-par grades don't open university doors.
He's still a freshman so no hurry, just looking to budget. But as of now he's a 3.8.
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Good luck to you and your son. Is he playing ball or what?
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Good luck to you and your son. Is he playing ball or what?
He plays baseball and football. last year was his first year playing organized FB but he's been playing baseball since he was 4-5. I told him after his sophmore FB season I'd like him to make a choice between the sports. As of now he's our starting JV catcher and subs for Varsity.
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He plays baseball and football. last year was his first year playing organized FB but he's been playing baseball since he was 4-5. I told him after his sophmore FB season I'd like him to make a choice between the sports. As of now he's our starting JV catcher and subs for Varsity.
Cool..cool. Yeah if he's been playing baseball since that age..keep him there. He's already got a solid foundation. The athletes in my family were all track and field. I ran track but loved football (broke the family mold)...only problem is that sport is all about "luck" more than talent imo. I went to Miss State and all I can say is it didn't pan out, wrong coaches, wrong position..killed my spirit.
I always said if I had a kid, I'd want him to play baseball if he wanted to choose a sport to play. I feel atleast there he wouldn't have to go through what I did. Guys in the league now that I used to play with thing....football is all about timing in being in the right place imo. Baseball...if you work hard and get good..they will find YOU!.
Good luck man.
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Cool..cool. Yeah if he's been playing baseball since that age..keep him there. He's already got a solid foundation. The athletes in my family were all track and field. I ran track but loved football (broke the family mold)...only problem is that sport is all about "luck" more than talent imo. I went to Miss State and all I can say is it didn't pan out, wrong coaches, wrong position..killed my spirit.
I always said if I had a kid, I'd want him to play baseball if he wanted to choose a sport to play. I feel atleast there he wouldn't have to go through what I did. Guys in the league now that I used to play with thing....football is all about timing in being in the right place imo. Baseball...if you work hard and get good..they will find YOU!.
Good luck man.
how about letting the kid chose what he prefers
it's only sports after all
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how about letting the kid chose what he prefers
it's only sports after all
This
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Cool..cool. Yeah if he's been playing baseball since that age..keep him there. He's already got a solid foundation. The athletes in my family were all track and field. I ran track but loved football (broke the family mold)...only problem is that sport is all about "luck" more than talent imo. I went to Miss State and all I can say is it didn't pan out, wrong coaches, wrong position..killed my spirit.
I always said if I had a kid, I'd want him to play baseball if he wanted to choose a sport to play. I feel atleast there he wouldn't have to go through what I did. Guys in the league now that I used to play with thing....football is all about timing in being in the right place imo. Baseball...if you work hard and get good..they will find YOU!.
Good luck man.
Thank you, as for football he did good in his first season, played WR and DB most of the time, finished the season 6/6 on receptions, 4 tackles and two TD's. Unfortunately he might have my "short" genetics (he's 5'4 130). I'd love for him to play a sport, at least thats the goal.
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how about letting the kid chose what he prefers
it's only sports after all
yeah ultimately it's up to him. I guess I should say if my kid would ask me between the two.
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how about letting the kid chose what he prefers
it's only sports after all
He grew up playing sports with no sign of wanting to discontinue at any time since he was a toddler. If he did not want to do a sport I wasn't going to force him. Luckily he never indicated he wanted to stop. Saying "it's only a sport" is naive. It's good sports programs started early in life that guided kids, it teaches hard work and responsibility. Keeps most kids out of trouble.
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Thank you, as for football he did good in his first season, played WR and DB most of the time, finished the season 6/6 on receptions, 4 tackles and two TD's. Unfortunately he might have my "short" genetics (he's 5'4 130). I'd love for him to play a sport, at least thats the goal.
Never know about the height thing..my cousin dad was 5'10 his mom was 5'6..and he hit a growth spurt in HS during summer and he was 6'4 - 6'5 by his senior year (before then he was never past 5'8). Got a full scholar to Southern Miss. Basketball.
I think my freshmen year i was like 5'6 - 5'7 by senior I was 5'11 225 playing tailback still running the 100m LOL. You never know. Just keep him competitive and he'll be fine.
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I played baseball at the u of KY. What a long ass process that was finding and picking a school. BTW I went to the coach,he never would have found me.
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how about letting the kid chose what he prefers
it's only sports after all
Yeah, sports are no big deal. No big deal like bodybuilding, or as I like to call it... thong flex. ;D 8)
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Coach, are you one of those fathers who screams and yells at his kid when he strikes out or misses a pass? :-\ :-\ And youre all like, "YOU SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT PASS! YOU MUST BE NUMBER ONE! HOW WILL YOU EVER MAKE IT INTO THE NFL OR MLB?"
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I played baseball at the u of KY. What a long ass process that was finding and picking a school. BTW I went to the coach,he never would have found me.
My wife graduated from UK. Another great facility. Did you play for your entire college career?
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..and came across this. I'll be there at the end of April but damn what a facility. Having a great facility is a selling point for him..and me :P.
Check out the video.
http://www.utsports.com/tnfund/tnfund-football-training.html
Neither you nor your son sound very interested in academics. :-[
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Coach, are you one of those fathers who screams and yells at his kid when he strikes out or misses a pass? :-\ :-\ And youre all like, "YOU SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THAT PASS! YOU MUST BE NUMBER ONE! HOW WILL YOU EVER MAKE IT INTO THE NFL OR MLB?"
Nope, I will call him out in certain situations but I have no delusions of grandeur. I'm a baseball coach and an S&C coach and a student and follower of the teaching of John Wooden.
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Neither you nor your son sound very interested in academics. :-[
????? Academics are #1. Even in MY athletic programs they have to carry a minimum 3.0. High Schools only want a 2.0 for sports which I think is criminal. They should raise the standard. Even if my own son drops below a 3.0 he's out until he brings it back up. Fortunately that has not happen.
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My wife graduated from UK. Another great facility. Did you play for your entire college career?
3 years. Out on injury one year, then transferred to st johns. I should have started there. At UK I was getting zero education and just drank all day.
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Until saw Tennessee's site his other choices were (and still are) TCU, USC, CS Fullerton (baseball) and Long Beach St. (baseball). All depends on his GPA.
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Coach good luck to you guys.... I'm sure your kid will succeed in whatever he chooses.... you're a great influence on him and a great role model! I'm sure it will all work out for the best for you guys! No doubt!
Reading your posts, I couldn't ever imagine that you are a guy who would push your kids to live out whatever dreams that you may have for yourself, but I imagine that you're a good support to them, and being in the business that you are in, I imagine athletics is big in your family, which is definitely a great opportunity for your young one to learn a thing or two!
I'm a big supporter of sports in High School, I myself played something almost every season when I was there; Lacross, Basketball, Track and Field... But.... football - that was my sport.... played it for the first time in 8th grade (When I first moved to the US), and by Junior year I was starting Nose-Tackle on our Varsity Team, started both ways senior year! I even got letters from different colleges (all Division 3 though!) asking for a meeting to potentially come play for them....most notable of them being Catholic University http://www.cuacardinals.com/sports/fball/index - I talked with them and was on the verge of confirming, it was almost a done deal, but then I got accepted at George Washington University - and since they don't have a Football team, I ended up choosing academics over athletics and kissed my football dreams goodbye! All good, not like I was gonna be playing in the NFL or anything (although a couple of my teammates did).
GWU had an AWESOME weight room though, and I spent many hours there! During that time they tried to recruit me many times to Crew and to the Cheerleading squad, but I kept turning them down, because at the time I was so focused on competing in bodybuilding and just didn't have the desire to do anything else!
Good luck to you buddy!
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Saying "it's only a sport" is naive. It's good sports programs started early in life that guided kids, it teaches hard work and responsibility. Keeps most kids out of trouble.
I agree. I wrestled and played football in high school. I still remember running 45 minutes non stop, stairs, up downs, gassers, 3 a days...like it was yesterday. I have kept a lot of friends since then (12 years ago), helped my work ethic tremendously and for sure kept me out of trouble. Plus chicks dig athletes!
The only problem I have with athletics is when the crazy parents try to push a kid into it and the kid hates it. There were a lot of guys who hated sports that I played with and only did it because their parents forced them. Also when the kids stress athletics over academics isn't good either. After high school is over ...sports don't mean shit. Unless you play for a D1 school and have pros scouting you...it does not matter.
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and by Junior year I was starting Nose-Tackle on our Varsity Team
Sorry, couldn't resist.. :D
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Sorry, couldn't resist.. :D
yeah yeah yeah - ironic, isn't it ;D
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College costs the way they are, and you're worried about sports facilities? Are you fucking retarded or something?
Technical school OR Community college for two years then university to finish off degree.
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Beauty college.
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College costs the way they are, and you're worried about sports facilities? Are you fucking retarded or something?
Technical school OR Community college for two years then university to finish off degree.
if he has the means to send him to a four year college, why not go for it?
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Until saw Tennessee's site his other choices were (and still are) TCU, USC, CS Fullerton (baseball) and Long Beach St. (baseball). All depends on his GPA.
Coach, what state do you live in? Are you paying your sons tuition, borrowing loans, scholorship, etc? You realize out of state tuition is 3 times higher on average?
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Coach, what state do you live in? Are you paying your sons tuition, borrowing loans, scholorship, etc? You realize out of state tuition is 3 times higher on average?
Cali. and coach is being a bit overzealous. the kid is just in 9th grade. just stay in the books and see if he can even letter by his jr in anything before you start talking athletic scholarships. given he won't probably grow much bigger than coach, he should stick with baseball. coach, was his mother taller than you? then, he might break 5'6".
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Coach- I saw my brother & father go through this and if I can offer any advice it would be to keep your mind open and remind yourselves to enjoy the process. Few other times in your sons life will he have folks trying so hard to build him up. My brother/father took it so seriously that they didn't get to enjoy the process. It can be a quality bonding experience that you'll never forget.
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wasnt your son suposed to become one of the greatest photographer ever?
Keep all this stuff for you, moron. Obviously you seem a bit lost about these matters but its not on getbig you re going to find help.
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Coach good luck to you guys.... I'm sure your kid will succeed in whatever he chooses.... you're a great influence on him and a great role model! I'm sure it will all work out for the best for you guys! No doubt!
Reading your posts, I couldn't ever imagine that you are a guy who would push your kids to live out whatever dreams that you may have for yourself, but I imagine that you're a good support to them, and being in the business that you are in, I imagine athletics is big in your family, which is definitely a great opportunity for your young one to learn a thing or two!
I'm a big supporter of sports in High School, I myself played something almost every season when I was there; Lacross, Basketball, Track and Field... But.... football - that was my sport.... played it for the first time in 8th grade (When I first moved to the US), and by Junior year I was starting Nose-Tackle on our Varsity Team, started both ways senior year! I even got letters from different colleges (all Division 3 though!) asking for a meeting to potentially come play for them....most notable of them being Catholic University http://www.cuacardinals.com/sports/fball/index - I talked with them and was on the verge of confirming, it was almost a done deal, but then I got accepted at George Washington University - and since they don't have a Football team, I ended up choosing academics over athletics and kissed my football dreams goodbye! All good, not like I was gonna be playing in the NFL or anything (although a couple of my teammates did).
GWU had an AWESOME weight room though, and I spent many hours there! During that time they tried to recruit me many times to Crew and to the Cheerleading squad, but I kept turning them down, because at the time I was so focused on competing in bodybuilding and just didn't have the desire to do anything else!
Good luck to you buddy!
Thanks for that BIGACH. I think almost every parent has dreams for their kid, some are just more over zealous about the sports future of their kids than others, those are, for the most part the unreasonable ones and thats when the kid starts hating what he's doing. Got to keep things in prospective. Even though he's just in 9th grade he'll be 15 in three months it's time to start planning now. Lets face it, I'm going to be paying out the ASS where ever he goes or gets accepted too. Shit, my parents never gave college a thought, they were just happy with me graduating HS.
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Cali. and coach is being a bit overzealous. the kid is just in 9th grade. just stay in the books and see if he can even letter by his jr in anything before you start talking athletic scholarships. given he won't probably grow much bigger than coach, he should stick with baseball. coach, was his mother taller than you? then, he might break 5'6".
I would never count on a scholarship, if it happens, great even a partial. He will more than likely stick with baseball and will probably be taller than me by the time he starts his sophmore year. Kid wares a 9/12 shoe, I got stuck at 8 :-\.
I did tell him what ever sport he chooses after next football season, I would pay for whatever extra instruction he needs to gain an advantage, luckily I have access to some of the best outside coaching needed for both baseball and football along with a GREAT showcase company for videos and highlight reels.
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I hope your son turns out to be:
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Until saw Tennessee's site his other choices were (and still are) TCU, USC, CS Fullerton (baseball) and Long Beach St. (baseball). All depends on his GPA.
:'(
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I hope your son turns out to be:
LOL ;D
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..and came across this. I'll be there at the end of April but damn what a facility. Having a great facility is a selling point for him..and me :P.
Check out the video.
http://www.utsports.com/tnfund/tnfund-football-training.html
sign him up at Oaksterdam
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sign him up at Oaksterdam
Where is that?
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..and came across this. I'll be there at the end of April but damn what a facility. Having a great facility is a selling point for him..and me :P.
Check out the video.
http://www.utsports.com/tnfund/tnfund-football-training.html
Coach, is he looking to play ball?
OOPs, just saw your reply to other threads coach.
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Where is that?
Oakland, CA
http://www.oaksterdamuniversity.com/
;D
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..and came across this. I'll be there at the end of April but damn what a facility. Having a great facility is a selling point for him..and me :P.
Check out the video.
http://www.utsports.com/tnfund/tnfund-football-training.html
Given your genes, Coach, I don't think your son will profit from university. You should get him to become a personal trainer or, at the most, to get a two year degree from a technical college. Anything more than this will be over his head.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Oakland, CA
http://www.oaksterdamuniversity.com/
;D
LMAO...hahahahaha ;D
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Coach, is he looking to play ball?
OOPs, just saw your reply to other threads coach.
;D
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Given your genes, Coach, I don't think your son will profit from university. You should get him to become a personal trainer or, at the most, to get a two year degree from a technical college. Anything more than this will be over his head.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Thanks, but if I took your advice he'd wind up in rehab before 18. On the other hand if he did become a PT under me he would make more than the majority of college grads.....did that help Jr?
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Thanks, but if I took your advice he'd wind up in rehab before 18. On the other hand if he did become a PT under me he would make more than the majority of college grads.....did that help Jr?
I am just giving you advice not to waste time on things that won't work.
You are clearly not a bright person, Coach, and since intelligence is highly genetic, it is a bad bet to matriculate your son at an university. He won't profit from it.
He can still have a good, worthwhile life is he understands his limitations and tries to pursue success through other venues.
As for rehab, I never needed since I never got addicted to anything. Funny that the biggest drug abusers, ephebophiles and alcoholics are found amongst social conservatives such as yourself. Food for thought...
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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As for rehab, I never needed since I never got addicted to anything.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I don't know about that - you seem to have a pretty expensive kangaroo and asparagus habit.......just sayin'.
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I hope you're not sending him to Tennessee. I would pick USC.
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I love the part about "It features a fully staffed Physician Clinic and a State Licensed Pharmacy". ;D
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if he has the means to send him to a four year college, why not go for it?
Why throw money down the drain?
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Why throw money down the drain?
Times may be tough, but it is worth remembering that not everyone is on budget, and different people derive value and pleasure from different unnecessary expenses. In some social circles, people look down on attending a community college—and with good reason: many community colleges are simply not very good. Saying your son is a student at USC or Stanford has much more cache than saying he is going to the local community college. Quality of education aside, that is a cache many people are willing to pay for. If the school comes with a world class training facility for athletics and a slick website that obviously resonates with some parents and students.
Years ago when I was an admissions dean, we had a focus group of students that we routinely worked with; we once asked them why they elected to attend our university. One student talked about the incredibly beautiful landscaping on our campus (the trees, the hedges, the lawns, etc.) and how they simply wanted to be in that environment. Every student in the room chimed in and agreed: cosmetics was the primary driver. Cost, the quality of the faculty, success of alumni, placement into jobs or graduate school didn’t enter into their conscious decision making at all. :-[
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Times may be tough, but it is worth remembering that not everyone is on budget, and different people derive value and pleasure from different unnecessary expenses. In some social circles, people look down on attending a community college—and with good reason: many community colleges are simply not very good. Saying your son is a student at USC or Stanford has much more cache than saying he is going to the local community college. Quality of education aside, that is a cache many people are willing to pay for. If the school comes with a world class training facility for athletics and a slick website that obviously resonates with some parents and students.
Years ago when I was an admissions dean, we had a focus group of students that we routinely worked with; we once asked them whey they elected to attend our university. One student talked about the incredibly beautiful landscaping on our campus (the trees, the hedges, the lawns, etc.) and how they simply wanted to be in that environment. Every student in the room chimed in and agreed: cosmetics was the primary driver. Cost, the quality of the faculty, success of alumni, placement into jobs or graduate school didn’t enter into their conscious decision making at all. :-[
That cache can usually be reflected in starting salaries upon graduation, as well. Coach might want to examine what his son wants/hopes to major in, then factor in costs, and then look at what schools offer him the best bang for buck vis-a-vis those calculations.
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That cache can usually be reflected in starting salaries upon graduation, as well. Coach might want to examine what his son wants/hopes to major in, then factor in costs, and then look at what schools offer him the best bang for buck vis-a-vis those calculations.
We actually have discussed it. If he doesn't make it as am athletes he wants a career in sports. He did mention he wanted to get onto a college or professional team as.an S&C coach or skills coach.
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Check this article out Coach:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/tennessee-weight-room-mma-cage-know-just-case-173154544.html
Players will be able to walk straight from the 120-yard practice field into the new weight room — a 22,000 square foot "multilevel thunderdome of power," as it's called in UT's promotional video for the facility. Along with the standard free weights, machines, cardiovascular training equipment — which will be situated on a deck that overlooks the weight room — and a nutrition bar, it will feature a mixed martial arts cage "so we can go in and fight and all that stuff," Dooley said.
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Ball state
B.Y.U.
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Oakland, CA
http://www.oaksterdamuniversity.com/
;D
that university will provide graduates with a great return on Investment..
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..and came across this. I'll be there at the end of April but damn what a facility. Having a great facility is a selling point for him..and me :P.
Check out the video.
http://www.utsports.com/tnfund/tnfund-football-training.html
College is a waste of money all the knowledge that you need you can get from the streets, most of the richest men in the world dropped out of college.
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College is a waste of money all the knowledge that you need you can get from the streets, most some of the richest men in the world dropped out of college.
works for some, not everybody
most people need more guidance
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College is a waste of money all the knowledge that you need you can get from the streets, most of the richest men in the world dropped out of college.
Is that your plan? ???
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College is a waste of money all the knowledge that you need you can get from the streets, most of the richest men in the world dropped out of college.
Four men went golfing one day. Three of them headed to the first tee and the fourth went into the clubhouse to take care of the bill. The three men started talking, bragging about their sons.
The first man told the others, "my son is a homebuilder and he is so successful that he gave a friend a new home for free."
The second man said, "My son was a car salesman and now he owns a multi-line dealership. He's so successful that he gave a friend new Mercedes, fully loaded."
The third man spoke of how his son was a stockbroker and he's doing so well that he gave his friend an entire stock portfolio."
The fourth man joined them on the tee after a few minutes of taking care of business. The first man mentioned, "We were just talkingabout our sons. How is yours doing?"
The fourth man replied, "Well, my son is gay, and dances in a gay bar. I'm not totally thrilled about this, but he must be doing well. His last three boyfriends gave him a house, a brand new, fully loaded Mercedes and a stock portfolio
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Is that your plan? ???
I never went to college and i am making good money plus i do not have any college loans to pay off.
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wasnt your son suposed to become one of the greatest photographer ever?
Keep all this stuff for you, moron. Obviously you seem a bit lost about these matters but its not on getbig you re going to find help.
^^^ never had the college experience...homeschoole d Uby
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How about Wrestling school?
Former WWE superstar Chyna is finally getting back in the ring ... taking on 9 dudes at the same time ... except it's for a porno movie.
TMZ has learned ... Chyna was totally serious about pursuing a XXX career ... and just wrapped up on a Royal Rumble-inspired flick in which she locks up with a bunch of dudes who all look like famous wrestlers ... including a wannabe Hulk Hogan, wannabe Triple H, wannabe Ric Flair and more.
Weird thing is ... Chyna and the REAL Triple H actually dated for a while before he married Stephanie McMahon back in 2003.
The WWE obviously has no affiliation with the Vivid Entertainment flick. We called the wrestling titans for comment, but haven't heard back yet.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/02/16/chyna-porn-hulk-hogan/?adid=hero2#.Tz1fTk6PWSo
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Four men went golfing one day. Three of them headed to the first tee and the fourth went into the clubhouse to take care of the bill. The three men started talking, bragging about their sons.
The first man told the others, "my son is a homebuilder and he is so successful that he gave a friend a new home for free."
The second man said, "My son was a car salesman and now he owns a multi-line dealership. He's so successful that he gave a friend new Mercedes, fully loaded."
The third man spoke of how his son was a stockbroker and he's doing so well that he gave his friend an entire stock portfolio."
The fourth man joined them on the tee after a few minutes of taking care of business. The first man mentioned, "We were just talkingabout our sons. How is yours doing?"
The fourth man replied, "Well, my son is gay, and dances in a gay bar. I'm not totally thrilled about this, but he must be doing well. His last three boyfriends gave him a house, a brand new, fully loaded Mercedes and a stock portfolio
;D ;D
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Four men went golfing one day. Three of them headed to the first tee and the fourth went into the clubhouse to take care of the bill. The three men started talking, bragging about their sons.
The first man told the others, "my son is a homebuilder and he is so successful that he gave a friend a new home for free."
The second man said, "My son was a car salesman and now he owns a multi-line dealership. He's so successful that he gave a friend new Mercedes, fully loaded."
The third man spoke of how his son was a stockbroker and he's doing so well that he gave his friend an entire stock portfolio."
The fourth man joined them on the tee after a few minutes of taking care of business. The first man mentioned, "We were just talkingabout our sons. How is yours doing?"
The fourth man replied, "Well, my son is gay, and dances in a gay bar. I'm not totally thrilled about this, but he must be doing well. His last three boyfriends gave him a house, a brand new, fully loaded Mercedes and a stock portfolio
lolz
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Coach,
This task can be particularly daunting for both parents and students alike.
May I suggest you try sending him to Columbia University here in New York City.
I think he would enjoy his time within the institution, possibly play some football, decide to stay for grad school or even find a great career after graduation.
If interested, feel free to PM me. I did undergrad there and have a few friends on the board of admissions that where college mates during my time.
I tried to be as unbiased as homosexually possible, so give it some thought,
"1"
P.S. I don't know if your son is gay or straight, but if straight, there are many beautiful, intelligent women that attend CU, as well as handsome, well-hung men waiting for his arrival.
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Coach, I would advise 1 year in Europe...
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Skipping College as the Path to Success in the High-Tech Industry
By Sandy Baum and Michael McPherson
Struck by all the hoopla about the irrelevance of college education to success in our new world of technology, we decided to ask two talented research assistants from the Spencer Foundation, Charles Kurose and Amato Nocera, to look into the matter. Here, in their own words, is what they found.
In a recent New York Times op-ed piece, “Will Dropouts Save America?”, Michael Ellsberg gives an increasingly popular argument against a college education. The argument runs something like this: wildly successful entrepreneurs like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs dropped out of college. They didn’t need a college degree or the kind of skills that are learned from textbooks or in the classroom: passion, creativity, and a revolutionary idea fueled their success and gave the world two of its greatest tech companies: Microsoft and Apple.
Although the anecdote about Gates and Jobs is true, the conclusion that follows seems rather strange: just like Bill and Steve, you—the average American—needn’t waste your time and money on college in search of professional success. Ellsberg suggests that beyond “classic” professions like doctor, lawyer, and engineer “the focus on higher education as the only path to stable employment is profoundly misguided.” It’s worth considering just how misguided this focus actually is by examining an industry that is dominated by a profession that could hardly be called classic in this sense—the tech industry.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), out of the 1,811,000 jobs held by persons aged 25 years and over and who are employed in “computer systems design and related services” (an industry that includes computer and information systems design as well as software development) only about 7 percent have only a high-school degree. Of course, one’s odds of breaking into the industry improve slightly if you’ve obtained an associate’s degree (8 percent of persons employed) or attended some college and did not finish (12 percent of persons employed). But, rather unsurprisingly, the vast majority of employees in this industry have earned a bachelor’s degree or higher (73 percent). As the BLS notes, “the education level of workers in this industry is higher than average.”
But what about those of us who want to be one of the movers and shakers in this industry? The anecdote given by Ellsberg implies not only that college is a waste of time if you’re seeking professional success in the tech industry, but that college is especially a waste of time if you’re seeking to push technology forward as one of the stewards of this industry. As it turns out, this couldn’t be further from the truth.
A quick glance at the biographies of executive employees at Microsoft and Apple reveals a central problem with such a claim. Microsoft’s Web page lists 124 executives, and educational information is available on 120. Since Gates is no longer employed at Microsoft, only one executive listed at this tech giant fits the college-dropout motif, while the other 119 went through the far less flashy route of earning at least a bachelor’s degree. Indeed, the majority of Microsoft’s executives (58 percent) have earned degrees higher than a B.A. And at Apple, with the passing of Steve Jobs, 100 percent of its leaders have earned at least a B.A., and the majority (56 percent) have earned an advanced degree. If you’re looking to get yourself a senior position in the tech industry, where you are in the best position to innovate and develop new technology, it may be a good idea to get at least a B.A.
The stories of wildly successful college dropouts are fascinating and play to some of our deepest fantasies. If you happen to be an actual genius with a truly revolutionary idea, and if fate smiles on you, then maybe you should drop out of college. But chances are you’re not that person. In any case, the numbers tell us one thing: you wouldn’t be misguided at all to think that getting a college degree is the wisest pathway to a successful professional career, whether that be in one of Ellsberg’s “classic” professions or elsewhere. Indeed, you may be misguided to think otherwise.
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gayer than using athletic facilities as a criterion for colleges
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Coach,
This task can be particularly daunting for both parents and students alike.
May I suggest you try sending him to Columbia University here in New York City.
I think he would enjoy his time within the institution, possibly play some football, decide to stay for grad school or even find a great career after graduation.
If interested, feel free to PM me. I did undergrad there and have a few friends on the board of admissions that where college mates during my time.
I tried to be as unbiased as homosexually possible, so give it some thought,
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P.S. I don't know if your son is gay or straight, but if straight, there are many beautiful, intelligent women that attend CU, as well as handsome, well-hung men waiting for his arrival.
Thanks but definitely not Columbia.
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College is a waste of money all the knowledge that you need you can get from the streets, most of the richest men in the world dropped out of college.
I disagree. Every time I step onto a college campus (especially USC and UCLA) I kick myself and wish I would have finished college. I want him to experience what I didn't and wish I had.
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I disagree. Every time I step onto a college campus (especially USC and UCLA) I kick myself and wish I would have finished college. I want him to experience what I didn't and wish I had.
Have you considered Clown College?
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Have you considered Clown College?
I expected more from you than a cheap jab. I guess all attorneys are not as professional as they seem.
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Dude, don't take it personal.
It is just a joke about you regretting not finishing college.
It was supposed to be an homage to when Homer Simpson is talking about college and Bart says: "Clown College?"
D'oh!!!!
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By utilitarian and functional criteria Higher and further education is just just an extra option
It is possible to be the most educated fool in the neighbourhood.
It gives choices though oddly enough many people seem to let them selves be restricted by thinking and acting as though the chosen study area is the only area they can work in where as if you train to be a dentist you can still be a labourer or a burger flipper when wallets and jaws clam up.
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Coach,
Taylor (TBombz) was mentioning a very good university not too long ago that offers online courses and allows for students to finish at their own pace. TBombz will be attending that university this coming semester, if I'm not mistaken.
He didn't go into specifics regarding tuition costs, but he did stress that it was accredited by the same bodies which provide accreditation for some of the best institutions in the country.
Ever consider enrolling your son in that university?
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If he is gonna play football, he better play in the SEC which is the only conference where real football is played. I don't know what the fuck those other pussy conferences like the Big 12 or Little 10 does, but they're a joke. ;D
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Dude, don't take it personal.
It is just a joke about you regretting not finishing college.
It was supposed to be an homage to when Homer Simpson is talking about college and Bart says: "Clown College?"
D'oh!!!!
Man, that went right over my head. I haven't seen the Simpson's in years.
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Coach,
Taylor (TBombz) was mentioning a very good university not too long ago that offers online courses and allows for students to finish at their own pace. TBombz will be attending that university this coming semester, if I'm not mistaken.
He didn't go into specifics regarding tuition costs, but he did stress that it was accredited by the same bodies which provide accreditation for some of the best institutions in the country.
Ever consider enrolling your son in that university?
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I see what you did there.
Hahahahaha....good one ;D
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If he is gonna play football, he better play in the SEC which is the only conference where real football is played. I don't know what the fuck those other pussy conferences like the Big 12 or Little 10 does, but they're a joke. ;D
You won't be saying that after SC wins the National Title next year :P
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If high education equals money how come the professors with all their degrees and knowledge are not the richest men on the planet.
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If high education equals money how come the professors with all their degrees and knowledge are not the richest men on the planet.
And who said just because someone has a degree automatically make them rich? What kind of reasoning is that?
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And who said just because someone has a degree automatically make them rich? What kind of reasoning is that?
The reasoning of someone who does not enjoy the benefits of a classical education. :'(
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"Coach's son, the first mentally handicapped Harvard College undergraduate student, after the government ruled that it is unfair that the mentally handicapped cannot attend Ivy League universities and set quotas for them. Coach's son, seen here in this picture, was the first recipient of this priviledge and made history."
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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And who said just because someone has a degree automatically make them rich? What kind of reasoning is that?
If after being led to the trough of knowledge and the pupil drinks,...he will be in a better position to prosper.
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Coach,
Taylor (TBombz) was mentioning a very good university not too long ago that offers online courses and allows for students to finish at their own pace. TBombz will be attending that university this coming semester, if I'm not mistaken.
He didn't go into specifics regarding tuition costs, but he did stress that it was accredited by the same bodies which provide accreditation for some of the best institutions in the country.
Ever consider enrolling your son in that university?
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www.wgu.gov
though coach and his son certainly care more about a good social experience and access to a D1 training facility more than they care about cost of tuition, quality of education, and speed of completion.
cant blame them though. i would have went to a university as such if i wasnt such a fuck up in high school.
in response to the sarcastic tone of your comment that i can only assume is present.. i am friends with students and alumni from several top state colleges and very prestigous private universities. looking through their course work I am astonished at how easy it is. The classes i was taking at my junior college were just as demanding and rigorous as those found at the expensive and "prestigious" colleges that have very competitive entrance. that being said, the quality of educators at those schools does seem to be higher. and for alot of people being led by the hand through the learning process is a necessity.. so one wouldnt learn nearly as much at a junior college or online university without one on one guidance from a good teacher along the way.. meaning they would be better off at such a university. but for those who do not need authority directing them in order to thrive, quality education can be found elsewhere.
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www.wgu.gov
though coach and his son certainly care more about a good social experience and access to a D1 training facility more than they care about cost of tuition, quality of education, and speed of completion.
cant blame them though. i would have went to a university as such if i wasnt such a fuck up in high school.
in response to the sarcastic tone of your comment that i can only assume is present.. i am friends with students and alumni from several top state colleges and very prestigous private universities. looking through their course work I am astonished at how easy it is. The classes i was taking at my junior college were just as demanding and rigorous as those found at the expensive and "prestigious" colleges that have very competitive entrance. that being said, the quality of educators at those schools does seem to be higher. and for alot of people being led by the hand through the learning process is a necessity.. so one wouldnt learn nearly as much at a junior college or online university without one on one guidance from a good teacher along the way.. meaning they would be better off at such a university. but for those who do not need authority directing them in order to thrive, quality education can be found elsewhere.
Bombz, what are your expectations for a starting salary out of college for yourself?
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dont know
going to get an MBA through wgu
i might use that to transfer and get another MBA through a better known college
people who graduate from ivey league schools with an MBA usually start out at about 100k and gain expect to earn AT LEAST 200-300k within 10-15 years.
but with an MBA from wgu id probably have to start at somethign like 50-60k and work my way up from there.
but 4-5k per month is more than enough to make me happy so long as im in a contemplative(white collar) rather than an active(blue collar) position.
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dont know
going to get an MBA through wgu
i might use that to transfer and get another MBA through a better known college
people who graduate from ivey league schools with an MBA usually start out at about 100k and gain expect to earn AT LEAST 200-300k within 10-15 years.
but with an MBA from wgu id probably have to start at somethign like 50-60k and work my way up from there.
but 4-5k per month is more than enough to make me happy so long as im in a contemplative(white collar) rather than an active(blue collar) position.
At least your expectations are higher than SMM's.
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He's still a freshman so no hurry, just looking to budget. But as of now he's a 3.8.
A little late on the budgeting there.