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Santorum? Really? Fucking morons. ::)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
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Santorum? Really? Fucking morons. ::)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
Again - Santorum is getting ahead b attacking Obama/Romney care and going for the throat of thugghettobama.
there was a clear opportunity for all the candidates and RS went for it. Newt had his chance and got in the mud w Romney. Perry got in the mud w romney, and Ron Paul is bot even trying to win.
I am just speaking as an observer here.
Romeny is Obama lite.
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Obama has now hit 60% chance of winning re-election in Intrade.
the bulk of the nation has no faith in romney.
if they're looking at santorum as an option.... lol...
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Santorum Supporters
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If they're looking for the best way to force people to vote for Obama, they're doing a great job of it with Santorum.
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If they're looking for the best way to force people to vote for Obama, they're doing a great job of it with Santorum.
People have short memories and RS will get the geezer vote as well as blue collar white demos who hate thugbama due to keystone, energy inflation, and his flirting w the far left gay movement.
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People have short memories and RS will get the geezer vote as well as blue collar white demos who hate thugbama due to keystone, energy inflation, and his flirting w the far left gay movement.
I'm not saying he wouldn't get any votes. I'm saying there are going to be a lot of people who voted for Obama and don't want to vote for him again who will vote for him again if he's up against Santorum.
I wouldn't fucking doubt it if the democratic party is funneling money to Santorum. Obama's got to be happy as shit knowing he won't have to do much of anything to rally his base. He'll get votes from people who are royally pissed at him.
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I'm not saying he wouldn't get any votes. I'm saying there are going to be a lot of people who voted for Obama and don't want to vote for him again who will vote for him again if he's up against Santorum.
I wouldn't fucking doubt it if the democratic party is funneling money to Santorum. Obama's got to be happy as shit knowing he won't have to do much of anything to rally his base. He'll get votes from people who are royally pissed at him.
look other than Ron Paul, Paul Ryan, rand Paul, Sarah, sen Johnson from Wisconsin, and a few others, the GOP is utterly worthless.
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in his own words- santorum will open up a lot of the govt to be run by christian law. "We are made by God to be free, but we also must abide by God's law" was his quote.
nothing wrong with that, right? it's not like other religions would use this opening to do things like, oh, implementing sharia law.
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in his own words- santorum will open up a lot of the govt to be run by christian law. "We are made by God to be free, but we also must abide by God's law" was his quote.
nothing wrong with that, right? it's not like other religions would use this opening to do things like, oh, implementing sharia law.
Have you ever heard the concept of Natural Law?
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Only good quality I can see so far about Santorum is that he doesn't support the Military Authorization Act (just like Obama didn't support the Patriot Act ::))
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Only good quality I can see so far about Santorum is that he doesn't support the Military Authorization Act (just like Obama didn't support the Patriot Act ::))
I have to admit his focus on blue collar construction and manufacturing jobs is very good to me. Of course the religious crap annoys me, but he gets it on the need for manufacturing and blue collar jobs in America to be brought back whereas Romney is a big box import cheap crap. Type of guy.
IF we want to consume we need to produce!
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Have you ever heard the concept of Natural Law?
I think I understand the concept of natural law, but how does taht relate to his post? ???
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I think I understand the concept of natural law, but how does taht relate to his post? ???
When some people bring up God they are doing so in terms of natural law.
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When some people bring up God they are doing so in terms of natural law.
I don't get it, but that's probably because I'm ignorant! 8)
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I don't get it, but that's probably because I'm ignorant! 8)
Not at all.
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Have you ever heard the concept of Natural Law?
I seriously doubt that's his context. Santorum is pure scum, zero way I'm voting for him.
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Have you ever heard the concept of Natural Law?
Natural law does not equal theocracy...
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explain natural law, and how it justifies any politician saying we should base american law on 'the rules of god'.
cause to me, it's a damn slippery slope. The same people screaming we should use the bible to write state law are also screaming about the danger of using sharia law to write US law.
Maybe BOTH religions need to stay away from govt law?
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Natural law is the basis of this country and its constitution... Think: John Locke, "unalienable rights" in the Declaration of Independence, your rights to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness," etc.
http://mises.org/daily/2426 (http://mises.org/daily/2426)
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in his own words- santorum will open up a lot of the govt to be run by christian law. "We are made by God to be free, but we also must abide by God's law" was his quote.
Does someone have a link to that article please? I found a video where he was talking about abortion...is that where this quote comes from?
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Santorum? Really? Fucking morons. ::)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
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Dude is a fucking psychopath, big government RHINO Nazi.
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I have to admit his focus on blue collar construction and manufacturing jobs is very good to me. Of course the religious crap annoys me, but he gets it on the need for manufacturing and blue collar jobs in America to be brought back whereas Romney is a big box import cheap crap. Type of guy.
IF we want to consume we need to produce!
Several points:
1. There's nothing special about manufacturing and there's no reason why we should give it special tax exemptions instead of just lowering taxes across the board (unless the former is politically feasible and the latter is not).
2. There's nothing inherently bad about trade deficits.
3. Trade deficits/surpluses are determined by capital flows... and a major factor driving capital flowing into this country are the MASSIVE federal, state, and local budget deficits. Rick Santorum has no credible plan to actually tackle this problem, thus his manufacturing tax credit will not accomplish a trade surplus.
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Several points:
1. There's nothing special about manufacturing and there's no reason why we should give it special tax exemptions instead of just lowering taxes across the board (unless the former is politically feasible and the latter is not).
2. There's nothing inherently bad about trade deficits.
3. Trade deficits/surpluses are determined by capital flows... and a major factor driving capital flowing into this country are the MASSIVE federal, state, and local budget deficits. Rick Santorum has no credible plan to actually tackle this problem, thus his manufacturing tax credit will not accomplish a trade surplus.
1 problem.
Lowering taxes means less government spending. Theyve already set a precedent that theyre willing to increase taxes across the board in order to facilitate more government and more spending.
So what seems like a no brainer because indefinate failure. Because they simply will not make any changes in the government that would require them to "tighten the belt", or require them to decide what pet projects to axe. They just wont do it.
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Several points:
1. There's nothing special about manufacturing and there's no reason why we should give it special tax exemptions instead of just lowering taxes across the board (unless the former is politically feasible and the latter is not).
2. There's nothing inherently bad about trade deficits.
3. Trade deficits/surpluses are determined by capital flows... and a major factor driving capital flowing into this country are the MASSIVE federal, state, and local budget deficits. Rick Santorum has no credible plan to actually tackle this problem, thus his manufacturing tax credit will not accomplish a trade surplus.
Disagree - there is something very important about manufacting. It allows for real creation of wealth by blue collar and regular working people. It also have many many many ancillary off shoots that don't occur w walmarts, box stores, and other retail bs.
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Disagree - there is something very important about manufacting. It allows for real creation of wealth by blue collar and regular working people. It also have many many many ancillary off shoots that don't occur w walmarts, box stores, and other retail bs.
We do need to produce something to offset the massive consumption that we as a country represent.
We just buy and buy and buy but we never sell anything to pay for what we buy. As a result, we have racked up MASSIVE debt to pay for all the shit we buy.
Got to produce to purchase, otherwise debt is inevitable.
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Santorum? Really? Fucking morons. ::)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
Oh. For a moment there I thought you were describing those who voted for Obama in 2008 and will vote for his reelection.
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Oh. For a moment there I thought you were describing those who voted for Obama in 2008 and will vote for his reelection.
So you're saying I should be ok with Santorum because I voted for Obama? I want to vote republican in this election but I shouldn't give a shit about who is nominated?
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I don't see a problem. I'm behind anyone who gets elected but Santorum would be my first choice.
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in his own words- santorum will open up a lot of the govt to be run by christian law. "We are made by God to be free, but we also must abide by God's law" was his quote.
nothing wrong with that, right? it's not like other religions would use this opening to do things like, oh, implementing sharia law.
Hell of a lot better than what we have now. Rob, you have gone so far left it ain't even funny. Wouldn't surprise me if you're making donations to Obama. Not even close to joking.
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Hell of a lot better than what we have now. Rob, you have gone so far left it ain't even funny. Wouldn't surprise me if you're making donations to Obama. Not even close to joking.
No doubt - 240 went from a self described libertarian all to a flaming socialist kneepadding obama. What a pity.
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more of them family values :D
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blaablla :D :D :D
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Santorum is fucking fail.
He is everything that is wrong with the GOP IMHO.
Romney... well he isnt even really a republican.
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Thanks to his surprising surge, which brought him within eight votes of winning the Iowa caucuses, Rick Santorum is the candidate du jour. With his front-runner status is bound to come a new level of scrutiny directed at his track record and positions. One place to start is his stance on public education, of which the former Pennsylvania senator is not a big fan. As he said while campaigning in New Hampshire back in March, when no one was taking him seriously as a candidate: "Just call them what they are. Public schools? That's a nice way of putting it. These are government-run schools."
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Think you're smarter than a CNN pundit? Predict the next winner with our interactive app.Santorum has campaigned on the fact that his seven kids have been home-schooled, which has earned him a loyal following of foot soldiers within the evangelical movement. (The same goes for Rep. Michele Bachmann, who on Tuesday dropped out of the presidential race.) Over the past year, Santorum has appeared at a handful of home-schooling conferences. In April, he won the Home School Legal Defense Association's straw poll. There's even a "Homeschoolers for Santorum" Facebook page.
But Santorum wasn't always so opposed to government-run schools—especially one Pennsylvania cyber charter school that offered students free computers, internet service, and online classes. Between 2001 and 2004, that online school allowed the Santorum family to live in Virginia, while sticking Pennsylvania taxpayers with a $100,000 bill.
In 2004, Santorum spawned a minor scandal when news broke that he was no longer residing in the state that sent him to Congress and was living instead outside the Beltway in Leesburg, Virginia. Santorum owned, and still does, a house in Penn Hills, Pennsylvania, next door to his in-laws. The Santorums bought the three-bedroom house in 1997 for $87,800. But after Santorum got elected to the Senate in 1994, he bought a much larger home in Virginia that would accommodate his ever-growing family. Some relatives moved into the Penn Hills house, but Santorum continued to use it to claim residency in Pennsylvania, where he voted by absentee ballot.
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Despite moving his family to Virginia, Santorum didn't enroll his children in a local public school. Nor did the Santorums simply home-school the kids. Instead, in 2001, they enrolled five of their kids in the Pennsylvania Cyber Charter School, based out of tiny Beaver County, Pennsylvania. The school was founded by Nick Trombetta, a former wrestling coach who set up an online charter school in a depopulated part of the state and turned it into a financial powerhouse that rakes in millions annually in public education funds. (In 2007, Trombetta, a major Republican donor in the state, was the subject of a state grand jury investigation into his use of millions in public funds to build a performing arts center near the school's headquarters, among other things. No charges have been brought.)
Considered a public school, the online charter's students are required to take state-mandated assessments and meet other formal requirements not demanded of traditional home-schoolers. But it offers home-schoolers lots of advantages, notably free computers and internet connections. When Santorum enrolled his kids there, the local school district in Penn Hills was forced to pick up the tab for the cyber school, which cost the district $38,000 a year for the Santorum children.
After four years, the press got wind of this in 2004, and Democrats raised a fuss about the fact that their senator didn't actually live in Pennsylvania, much less the Penn Hills school district that was footing the bills for his children's education in Virginia. The local school board, which included a member who was the local Democratic Party committee chair, attempted to force Santorum to repay the district $100,000 in tuition.
When the scandal broke, Trombetta, the founder of the charter school, offered to let Santorum's kids stay enrolled for free if Santorum would pay the technology costs. In the end, with Democrats challenging his residency in the state, Santorum withdrew his kids from the school. He never repaid a dime. The state ended up settling with the school district and repaying $55,000 in tuition fees. (The Santorum campaign did not respond to a request for comment.)
Even today, nearly eight years after the charter school scandal, Santorum's residency issues continue to dog him. On the campaign trail, distancing himself from the dreaded Washington insider label, he has highlighted his Pennsylvania roots. In August, at a campaign event in Iowa, he handed out samples of "Pennsylvania Presidential Peach Preserves," which he claimed were made by his family from peaches they picked off their trees back home. But as the Roxborough-Manayunk, Pennsylvania, Patch pointed out on Tuesday, there's not a peach tree to be found anywhere near the Santorum home in Penn Hills. The web site speculated that the peaches must have come from elsewhere—Santorum's $1.26 million manse in Great Falls, Virginia, perhaps.
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http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.39online.com/entertainment/onlinedish/kiah-online-dish-karen-santorum-affair-with-abortion-doctor-story,0,1944700.story&sa=U&ei=tuk6T6SfDsOE0QH_k7G1Cw&ved=0CDYQtwIwBw&usg=AFQjCNEUuqeHBsuVehHLjV83AKheJYoXAg
you can't make this shit up :D :D
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I don't see a problem. I'm behind anyone who gets elected but Santorum would be my first choice.
Thats becasue youre a fucking idiot.
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Who gives a fuck about Santorum's social conservatism? He's a big spending c*nt cut from the same cloth as THE USURPER.
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Who gives a fuck about Santorum's social conservatism? He's a big spending c*nt cut from the same cloth as THE USURPER.
Fucking this.
All these stupid fucking issues have nothing to do with the real problem (government size/spending/taking libertiea) but yet people seem to make then centerstage like fucking stances on abortion are somehow going to fix things.
Fucking fuck people.
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LOL
affair with an abortion doctor?
http://www.39online.com/entertainment/onlinedish/kiah-online-dish-karen-santorum-affair-with-abortion-doctor-story,0,1944700.story
speechless... wtf...
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Who gives a fuck about Santorum's social conservatism? He's a big spending c*nt cut from the same cloth as THE USURPER.
Why can't we give a fuck about both things. Santorum is the complete sack of shit.
Ron Paul is not... end of story, people need to get it together and end this bullshit cycle by supporting Paul.
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Why can't we give a fuck about both things. Santorum is the complete sack of shit.
Ron Paul is not... end of story, people need to get it together and end this bullshit cycle by supporting Paul.
Talk to the average moron and you will quickly understand why Paul has a ard time getting ahead.
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Talk to the average moron and you will quickly understand why Paul has a ard time getting ahead.
You mean idiots like Dave Mustaine who compare Paul to insecticide and can't actually understand what Ron Paul says and why he says it, who thinks Santorum is the man because he doesn't have as much money as Romney and thinks Santorum is honest because he went home to see his daughter? He didn't even know who Santorum was before this election but he'll rules out Paul and picks the guy who actually has the bigger record of doing shit that he doesn't like... Yea, morons...
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You mean idiots like Dave Mustaine who compare Paul to insecticide and can't actually understand what Ron Paul says and why he says it, who thinks Santorum is the man because he doesn't have as much money as Romney and thinks Santorum is honest because he went home to see his daughter? He didn't even know who Santorum was before this election but he'll rules out Paul and picks the guy who actually has the bigger record of doing shit that he doesn't like... Yea, morons...
I mean people who support the welfare state, want the war on drugs, etc.
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RS will really bring out the crazies.
completely batshit people will believe it's cool to reveal it for the world to see.
you'll have folks you thought were cool suddenly talking about how it woul be kinda cool to usher in the apopcolypse without profanity.
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RS will really bring out the crazies.
completely batshit people will believe it's cool to reveal it for the world to see.
you'll have folks you thought were cool suddenly talking about how it woul be kinda cool to usher in the apopcolypse without profanity.
I think he will do a lot better than people think.
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I mean people who support the welfare state, want the war on drugs, etc.
Really ::) That's the people you're talking about... You know a lot of republicans voting in the primary that fit that bill huh... LOL... I don't think a lot of republicans are going to admit they support the welfare state.
Dave Mustaine is a good example of the type of moronic thought that goes into republicans picking Santorum and passing on Paul. Mustaine basically parroted the bullshit propaganda spewed by the media about Paul and he's supporting a candidate that has a record contrary to what he's concerned about. There's a lot of others giving opinions about Paul like Mustaine and supporting people like Newt and Santorum--THEY are the kind of morons who don't support Paul.
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I think he will do a lot better than people think.
well, yeah. Especially when the whole thing is rigged.
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well, yeah. Especially when the whole thing is rigged.
I agree! The whole thing is orchestrated so that in the end we really have no choice at all.
The only real choice would be RP v. Obama. We at least would have a real choice between freedom and free markets vs. stalinism and tyranny.