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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Arnold jr on February 15, 2012, 01:28:38 AM
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There are several statements and comments made on a regular basis that I view as myths and misinformation. Many times they can be based on a bit of truth, but they're often twisted and contorted in a way that takes the truth into the realm of myth or complete ridiculousness. Anyway, here's my opinion:
Myth: Testosterone will always make you bloated, bloofy or whatever you want to call it.
Truth: Almost any healthy adult male can tolerate 500mg of testosterone per week easily, many can tolerate up to 1,000mg per week quite well and without any serious or even notable bloating. When you go over the 1,000mg mark, then you've got a lot more aromatazation to deal with, and this is where a lot of guys get into trouble. You can truly only use so much testosterone, and it may be a little different with each guy, but 1,000mg is typically controllable in the "Bloofy" department. In-order to control it, one thing that's useful is smaller, more frequent injections even with large ester testosterone compounds. This way your body only has to deal with small amounts at a time. AI's also help a great deal, I know a lot of people on here don't like them, but I wouldn't run a contest diet without them or without Test. Further, just controlling your carb intake, eating enough but not more than you actually need is huge!
Myth: Winstrol is bad for athletes due to joint issues.
Truth: Winstrol is one of the most common steroids used by athletes in most all sports; in-fact, other than Deca-Durabolin, it is the most commonly used steroid in the NFL. For strength and speed, it's tough to beat. Yes, there are more powerful steroids in this regard, but the side-effects are easy to control and it's normally a very well-tolerate steroid.
Myth: Masteron makes the need for an AI irrelevant.
Truth: Masteron CAN make the need for an AI irrelevant but that doesn't mean it will. It's not going to be as strong at inhibiting aromatase as an AI, and if you're in contest mode, to truly benefit in this manner you're going to more than likely need an AI, even if you're supplementing with Masteron. If you're not in contest mode but cutting and using Masteron, then sure, there's a good chance you won't need an AI...it will depend largely on what your total stack looks like and your overall genetic predisposition.
Myth: Masteron is a great bulking steroid.
Truth: Masteron may be one of the worst bulking steroids of all time. It will do very little to promote mass of any notable worth...there are far more efficient steroids for this purpose. Save Masteron for cutting cycles.
Myth: Equipoise is a fantastic bulking steroid.
Truth: Equipoise can be an OK bulking steroid, but to gain any true benefit in a bulking phase it better be conjoined with a few other steroids and create more or less of a harmonious effect. You can pack on a lot more quality mass with Testosterone (any form) Nandrolone (any form) and Trenbolone (any form). I'd even put Anadrol and Dianabol in front of EQ in this stage. When EQ is truly beneficial, when it's worth its true weight is when cutting...a great steroid for the front end of a cutting cycle.
Myth: Certain steroids can make you fat.
Truth: This comment pops up here on getbig.com almost daily, and it has got to be one of the single most ridiculous comments I've ever seen. If it's an anabolic steroid, it doesn't matter which one it is, it cannot make you fat; the idea that certain steroids can make you fat goes against the very nature of what anabolic steroids are. Think about it; anabolic steroids enhance your metabolism, they enable you to make better use of every nutrient you consume, and largely block and even reduce glucocorticoid hormones. If you're getting fat, you're eating too much...end of story.
Myth: Side-Effects are an indicator that a hormone is working well.
Truth: Like the fat comment above, this one is pretty ridiculous; if you take Aspirin and you don't experience any side-effects, do you immediately assume it's not working? Most NSAID painkillers like Aspirin carry possible side-effects that can be horrific, often far beyond what any anabolic steroid could possibly cause...again, if no side-effects occur, does this mean it's not working; of course not. If your steroids are of a quality nature, they're clean and dosed properly, if you're a healthy adult male and you don't supplement like an idiot, the odds are you're not going to experience too many side-effects if any at all. Most healthy adult men can tolerate most anabolic steroids very well. For crying out loud, these are hormones we already produce naturally, you're already accustomed to them, and on that basis alone there will normally be some level of toleration.
OK, that's it for now. I've already thought of about twenty more but I'll shut up for the moment. ;D
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Nice post man, i am interested in the other ones. ;D
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Bloofy post.
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There are several statements and comments made on a regular basis that I view as myths and misinformation. Many times they can be based on a bit of truth, but they're often twisted and contorted in a way that takes the truth into the realm of myth or complete ridiculousness. Anyway, here's my opinion:
Myth: Testosterone will always make you bloated, bloofy or whatever you want to call it.
Truth: Almost any healthy adult male can tolerate 500mg of testosterone per week easily, many can tolerate up to 1,000mg per week quite well and without any serious or even notable bloating. When you go over the 1,000mg mark, then you've got a lot more aromatazation to deal with, and this is where a lot of guys get into trouble. You can truly only use so much testosterone, and it may be a little different with each guy, but 1,000mg is typically controllable in the "Bloofy" department. In-order to control it, one thing that's useful is smaller, more frequent injections even with large ester testosterone compounds. This way your body only has to deal with small amounts at a time. AI's also help a great deal, I know a lot of people on here don't like them, but I wouldn't run a contest diet without them or without Test. Further, just controlling your carb intake, eating enough but not more than you actually need is huge!
you have to eat clean for high dose testosterona to not make you bloofy and it still! most likley will unless high dose hgh ,, be accurate dont just tell them something,, it is not true 1 gram testosterona will make you lok like shit if you dont eat clean ,, ,and it will! it canmake you look ok and by ok bodybuuild wize i mean large and 9% but holding water to a point it just dont look good not much muscle detail flat dan hill type look
Myth: Winstrol is bad for athletes due to joint issues.
Truth: Winstrol is one of the most common steroids used by athletes in most all sports; in-fact, other than Deca-Durabolin, it is the most commonly used steroid in the NFL. For strength and speed, it's tough to beat. Yes, there are more powerful steroids in this regard, but the side-effects are easy to control and it's normally a very well-tolerate steroid.
horible drugs,, one of the worst drugs if you actualy lift weights,, for the pussys it wont matter but if you like lifting it is horrible horrible drug
Myth: Masteron makes the need for an AI irrelevant.
Truth: Masteron CAN make the need for an AI irrelevant but that doesn't mean it will. It's not going to be as strong at inhibiting aromatase as an AI, and if you're in contest mode, to truly benefit in this manner you're going to more than likely need an AI, even if you're supplementing with Masteron. If you're not in contest mode but cutting and using Masteron, then sure, there's a good chance you won't need an AI...it will depend largely on what your total stack looks like and your overall genetic predisposition.
masteron may not be enough! ,, but! ai and especialy ai are horrible ,, it makes fellas like you impotents and yes i mean what i say ,, impotents that need viagra in age 22 and dont tell me fellas herre dont know what i talk about,, you canget to superb condition with out ai
Myth: Masteron is a great bulking steroid.
Truth: Masteron may be one of the worst bulking steroids of all time. It will do very little to promote mass of any notable worth...there are far more efficient steroids for this purpose. Save Masteron for cutting cycles.
you can use it in both cases as estrogen blocker,, it wil do its job very effectivly ,, together with primobolana it wil create sharp physiqe even when bulkking add trenbolona and you have machine ,, add hgh and insulina and you have mutation
Myth: Equipoise is a fantastic bulking steroid.
Truth: Equipoise can be an OK bulking steroid, but to gain any true benefit in a bulking phase it better be conjoined with a few other steroids and create more or less of a harmonious effect. You can pack on a lot more quality mass with Testosterone (any form) Nandrolone (any form) and Trenbolone (any form). I'd even put Anadrol and Dianabol in front of EQ in this stage. When EQ is truly beneficial, when it's worth its true weight is when cutting...a great steroid for the front end of a cutting cycle.
eqiopona is a very good drug and it realy depends how much water you want to hold on you over all for decision if you going to use it ,, over all equipona can be used and should be used for both bulking and cutting
Myth: Certain steroids can make you fat.
Truth: This comment pops up here on getbig.com almost daily, and it has got to be one of the single most ridiculous comments I've ever seen. If it's an anabolic steroid, it doesn't matter which one it is, it cannot make you fat; the idea that certain steroids can make you fat goes against the very nature of what anabolic steroids are. Think about it; anabolic steroids enhance your metabolism, they enable you to make better use of every nutrient you consume, and largely block and even reduce glucocorticoid hormones. If you're getting fat, you're eating too much...end of story.
today bodybild want to eat more like normal fellas ,, i gav them the way to do it....so yes if you eat like normal fellas while keeping macros as in enough protien ...you will get fat on testosterona high doses,, yuo wil get fat on dianabola and testosterona combos,, you need hgh its a must ,, steroids CAN and will make you fat! if not eating clean unless you have specific hormones in blood both steroids and growth and in many times fast burners
Myth: Side-Effects are an indicator that a hormone is working well.
Truth: Like the fat comment above, this one is pretty ridiculous; if you take Aspirin and you don't experience any side-effects, do you immediately assume it's not working? Most NSAID painkillers like Aspirin carry possible side-effects that can be horrific, often far beyond what any anabolic steroid could possibly cause...again, if no side-effects occur, does this mean it's not working; of course not. If your steroids are of a quality nature, they're clean and dosed properly, if you're a healthy adult male and you don't supplement like an idiot, the odds are you're not going to experience too many side-effects if any at all. Most healthy adult men can tolerate most anabolic steroids very well. For crying out loud, these are hormones we already produce naturally, you're already accustomed to them, and on that basis alone there will normally be some level of toleration.
didnt read dont care,, over all it depends on the productr you use...the best hgh do not giv eyou sides beside positive sides such as....nail growth etc ,, with steroids it depends,, sides are menatly mainly
OK, that's it for now. I've already thought of about twenty more but I'll shut up for the moment. ;D
read what i put there on top you will see the real truth about high competetive bodybuild ,, and more importantly on the highest competetive bodybuild 80s 90s and 2000s
im aware you cant stand gh15,, but i cant let it just go with out respond ,, i have bunch of fellas walking in my shoes cant let them be even slightly misguided even if this is what you believe in ,,sorry
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Equipona is great for bulking !! It make s me hungry as shit,,,,,
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Equipona is great for bulking !! It make s me hungry as shit,,,,,
thats why I'm a little afraid of using it on a cut
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Myth=Primo and Anavar aren't good at packing on muscle!
Truth= 99% of Anavar and primo are fake, underdosed shit and if you believe the above you are used fake or underdosed products, don't know how to train, or eat or any of the combination of above. In other words........BOTH are fucking amazing compounds, especially when stacked together!
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I like the part about hormones making you "fat" LOL
I definitely agree with you, it's all about what you eat, doesn't even necessary need to be clean, but just don't overeat!! And that's the problem most guys do.. anyways, people always confuse water with fat, so on dbol test etc etc, holding more water = appearance of fat..one should control carb intake too on those hormones that make them "fat", that way = hold less water = less making them fat ;D
Not any new information, as most fellas know this, just my two cents LOL
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^^Goes back before to other threads, that you can cut or bulk on any steroid really... all about diet!!
Again, most well-trained pupils know this ;D
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I agree 100%, Primo is a worthless bulking drug. Too bad it didn't work for this guy in the pic below...for had he used some testoserone instead of that shitty primo he could of been fairly muscular at one point in his life :D
(http://fitnessanddefense.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/arnold-schwarzenegger-big.jpg)
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read what i put there on top you will see the real truth about high competetive bodybuild ,, and more importantly on the highest competetive bodybuild 80s 90s and 2000s
im aware you cant stand gh15,, but i cant let it just go with out respond ,, i have bunch of fellas walking in my shoes cant let them be even slightly misguided even if this is what you believe in ,,sorry
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I can't stand gh15? Actually, I think you've said a lot of good things on here over the years. Do I agree with every last thing you say? No, of course not, and I doubt there's a person alive I could say that about. Take Arnold for example, obviously I like the guy, my screen name implies that, but I sure don't agree with everything he says. I remember hearing Arnold answer a question about shoulder training 5 or 6 years ago, and he said if you're not training shoulders at least three times a week and at least 27 sets per shoulder workout you're wasting your time. Obviously I disagree with this....Arnold got away with training like that because his genetics were far above and beyond the average man, but I'd be willing to bet every dime I have that he would have been even more muscular if he had trained with far less sets....same intensity, sure, but less overtraining.
My point, just because I disagree with some things someone says doesn't mean I can't stand them. Now, when it comes to steroids and hormones in general, sure, if someone is completely distorting the truth to promote an emotionally based end like Dr. Gary Wadler does on a daily basis, this is something I truly have a problem with.
Now, as it pertains directly to you, the only things I really have a problem with are some of your comments that are of an absolute nature when the topic is not always as black and white as you make it out to be. That doesn't mean there isn't some truth to the statement, but things are not always perfectly black and white.
As for your direct comments to my OP...misguided? Testosterone, it seems like we actually agree more than we disagree...I agree, if you supplement with 1,000mg/wk and eat like a pig, you're going to look like a pig. There's no disagreement here. As for Test making you look flat, that one we disagree on.
EQ, I never said it couldn't be used as a good bulking steroid, it can be. I do think it can be more useful when cutting and I think there are other steroids that are better bulking agents than EQ, but this doesn't make EQ worthless for bulking.
Masteron, this is probably the steroid we disagree on more so than anything else, and I'll just leave it at that.
Winny, the best bodybuilding steroid? Of course not, and if I implied that it was a mistake. For athletes, absolutely, it's fantastic. For bodybuilders, it can be a good addition to the end of a cutting cycle if they're lean enough. It shouldn't be viewed as a foundational steroid for bodybuilders, but more or less a supplement to supplemental steroid use.
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Myth=Primo and Anavar aren't good at packing on muscle!
Truth= 99% of Anavar and primo are fake, underdosed shit and if you believe the above you are used fake or underdosed products, don't know how to train, or eat or any of the combination of above. In other words........BOTH are fucking amazing compounds, especially when stacked together!
NOW THIS! is truthfil information! very good
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Would it not be fair to say that the response compunds vary from individuals. We know very well from the many posts about what hormones do what and which are the stronger ones, but could it be that Primo just worked very well for Arnold and that someone else it may work well for but they get better results from tren from example?
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Would it not be fair to say that the response compunds vary from individuals. We know very well from the many posts about what hormones do what and which are the stronger ones, but could it be that Primo just worked very well for Arnold and that someone else it may work well for but they get better results from tren from example?
Individual response always plays a role...it plays a role in everything in life. For example, most of us can eat peanuts, but some of us get deathly sick if we touch the first one. Even so, while individual response to a hormone will play a role, there are still basic truths that always remain. For example, (just using the two steroids you mentioned) yes, Primo can be a good steroid, and quality Primo can do some good things, but even if you have the best Primo on earth and you have an excellent response to the steroid Tren will still always be the more powerful hormone. It could be the individual is a poor responder to Tren, he might have issues with side-effects and due to this is able to use Primo with more success....that doesn't make Primo the better steroid or the more powerful or whatever you want to call it. If all things are equal, Tren is the better choice, and there are countless examples like this.
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Good informative post Arj!! Finally a break from the gh15 crap that is on the g and o everyday pushing growth hormone.
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i see mr palestine here is not get ready for the end of iran ,,, isnt syria now falin apart? go home join the hammes and blow yourself up like your innocent kids you throw over there ,, retard
now ,, in general!
if any one of you actualy used legit primobolana ACATATO inject form you would understand why and how lean muscle and ONLY lean muscle can be added to once physiqe,, put in the hgh and insulina and you got top amatuer
ofcourse combo of everything is needed as usualy trenbolona and primobolana and other products,, but! if you actualy have legit primobolana you are doign very very well ,, VERY VERY well even with sub par genetioc,, you will be called HUGE when you are 210 lb ,, this is how good you do with some hgh and primobolana
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I sware I'm two 200mg shots into primo (first time running it) and my face looks like a different person, gear bloat is gone. WOW...I'm grinning ear to ear lol I forgot I had cheekbones
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I sware I'm two 200mg shots into primo (first time running it) and my face looks like a different person, gear bloat is gone. WOW...I'm grinning ear to ear lol I forgot I had cheekbones
That's great man but I'd be skeptical about it making a massive difference that fast...I mean, 2 shots only means you're probably no more than a week into it, maybe a little less. I mean we're talking about a large ester base steroid, it's not that fast acting. It may be a great steroid, you might have some really good Primo, but you've got to take into account all the other things you're doing gear wise, food wise, everything wise.
I'm not trying to blow a hole in your happy thought, just stating how I see it.
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That's great man but I'd be skeptical about it making a massive difference that fast...I mean, 2 shots only means you're probably no more than a week into it, maybe a little less. I mean we're talking about a large ester base steroid, it's not that fast acting. It may be a great steroid, you might have some really good Primo, but you've got to take into account all the other things you're doing gear wise, food wise, everything wise.
I'm not trying to blow a hole in your happy thought, just stating how I see it.
lol he uses acatato ,, not depot friend...most liekley acatato ,, changes within hours
this is the problem ,, fellas dont get it there is a big scam of fake naturals all on primobolana and trenbolona looking better than ifbb profesionals lol
acatato ester changes happen within hours...you actualy see changes by the week on a regular basis with the acatato ester,, if lean enough you see them by the days and hours
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pretty much agree with your post 100% I think lately
test 250mg
eq 900
tren 300-600
has become the main getbig cycle not that its not good and this and that but for the most part test,deca or dbol will to the same thing thing. If ones not trying to step on a stage. The test bloofy stuff has got a little one sided almost as much as the test as the base of any cycle type shit. If you are low on money and just recreational lifting/bodybuilding test is your best bet problay and wont generally make you extremely bloated and this and that.
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notice what he say!,, he see his cheek bones,, what he has right now after 2 shots is slight increase in lean muscle,, while muscle get more denser due to this small increase in lean muscle...yes 2 injects already starting the process especialy when he is 17 or 19 he is teenager lol btu anyone would see same thign...small increase in lean muscle ,, slight but same time...body hardens on you ...water is starting to being reduced by the primobolana acatato...and hardeining effect thus chizeling effect taking place,,
now day when he stand on the machine looking to the side into mirror...whiel arms resing on the machine watching what going on in gymnasium....now day he can start seeiung horse shoe lines...since muscle grow and skin tighten itself on muscle ,, not like with hgh but close enough at age 19,,
primobolana make you SEE the muscle not only say you have it : )
acatato is preferable version for you dont hav eto wait no time for it to happen especialy if 10% or under ,,
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pretty much agree with your post 100% I think lately
test 250mg
eq 900
tren 300-600
has become the main getbig cycle not that its not good and this and that but for the most part test,deca or dbol will to the same thing thing. If ones not trying to step on a stage. The test bloofy stuff has got a little one sided almost as much as the test as the base of any cycle type shit. If you are low on money and just recreational lifting/bodybuilding test is your best bet problay and wont generally make you extremely bloated and this and that.
if you like eating clean then be my friend,, use lot of testosterona,, it still wil give you bloofyness mark my words ,, inorder to utilize testosterona best in high doses....you hav eto have in blood hgh for logn time in high doses ,, no 3 iu wont cut it
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Good informative post Arj!! Finally a break from the gh15 crap that is on the g and o everyday pushing growth hormona.
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lol he uses acatato ,, not depot friend...most liekley acatato ,, changes within hours
this is the problem ,, fellas dont get it there is a big scam of fake naturals all on primobolana and trenbolona looking better than ifbb profesionals lol
acatato ester changes happen within hours...you actualy see changes by the week on a regular basis with the acatato ester,, if lean enough you see them by the days and hours
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Is there a log? or can someone who starts tren ace start a log with pictures every 6 hours or so. im really curious to see if the changes are THAT fast and THAT magical
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i had micro tears twice on winstrol ,, never again ,,
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That's great man but I'd be skeptical about it making a massive difference that fast...I mean, 2 shots only means you're probably no more than a week into it, maybe a little less. I mean we're talking about a large ester base steroid, it's not that fast acting. It may be a great steroid, you might have some really good Primo, but you've got to take into account all the other things you're doing gear wise, food wise, everything wise.
I'm not trying to blow a hole in your happy thought, just stating how I see it.
what would it be then bro? lol...I get my Bayer primo straight from a wholesaler none of this open source bogus. As for diet, well I've gone through two pints of hagaan dazz in two days and around 10 bananas and had one 40 minute chest/bicep workout lol. My face sunk in overnight of course I'm on test and deca though but I have been on those for a while now nothing has changed in my drug regimes since the primo, but hey maybe it's the bananas :D
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That's great man but I'd be skeptical about it making a massive difference that fast...I mean, 2 shots only means you're probably no more than a week into it, maybe a little less. I mean we're talking about a large ester base steroid, it's not that fast acting. It may be a great steroid, you might have some really good Primo, but you've got to take into account all the other things you're doing gear wise, food wise, everything wise.
I'm not trying to blow a hole in your happy thought, just stating how I see it.
exactly, we have these gh15 cock riders in here saying they feel a difference right away which is complete bullshit, yet they believe it because gh15 says this, just like with that bunk kigtropin that is better than pharma grade ;D
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exactly, we have these gh15 cock riders in here saying they feel a difference right away which is complete bullshit, yet they believe it because gh15 says this, just like with that bunk kigtropin that is better than pharma grade ;D
what are you talking about idiot? Where did I say my arms look bigger or I've put on 5 pouns of muscle in two shots? I just said my face looked tighter, and I woke up this morning and it was even leaner. Keep in mind I've been on test for two years straight nonstop, no antiestrogens,masteron,primo,tren whatsoever so my estrogen is out of control most likely....of course I would notice the effect quicker than if a normal guy on a primo cycle.
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what are you talking about idiot? Where did I say my arms look bigger or I've put on 5 pouns of muscle in two shots? I just said my face looked tighter, and I woke up this morning and it was even leaner. Keep in mind I've been on test for two years straight nonstop, no antiestrogens,masteron,primo,tren whatsoever so my estrogen is out of control most likely....of course I would notice the effect quicker than if a normal guy on a primo cycle.
all in your head,,,,,
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what are you talking about idiot? Where did I say my arms look bigger or I've put on 5 pouns of muscle in two shots? I just said my face looked tighter, and I woke up this morning and it was even leaner. Keep in mind I've been on test for two years straight nonstop, no antiestrogens,masteron,primo,tren whatsoever so my estrogen is out of control most likely....of course I would notice the effect quicker than if a normal guy on a primo cycle.
Flint is right.
After 3 inj of primo my face def got tighter.
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lol he uses acatato ,, not depot friend...most liekley acatato ,, changes within hours
this is the problem ,, fellas dont get it there is a big scam of fake naturals all on primobolana and trenbolona looking better than ifbb profesionals lol
acatato ester changes happen within hours...you actualy see changes by the week on a regular basis with the acatato ester,, if lean enough you see them by the days and hours
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Well, he said he was injecting Primo, the vast majority of injectable Primo is Primobolan Depot which is Methenolone-Enanthate, not Methenolone-Acetate. On that basis, he's comment would have implied the Enanthate version. Yes, there can be short ester injectable Primo, the large ester version is simply far more common.
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all in your head,,,,,
no...
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i had micro tears twice on winstrol ,, never again ,,
winstrol = garbage
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Well, he said he was injecting Primo, the vast majority of injectable Primo is Primobolan Depot which is Methenolone-Enanthate, not Methenolone-Acetate. On that basis, he's comment would have implied the Enanthate version. Yes, there can be short ester injectable Primo, the large ester version is simply far more common.
lol arnbold junior,, you sound lik ea begginer ...the vas majority now day is the avatato version done by top chef,, make enantato version look like a kid incomparison
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what would it be then bro? lol...I get my Bayer primo straight from a wholesaler none of this open source bogus. As for diet, well I've gone through two pints of hagaan dazz in two days and around 10 bananas and had one 40 minute chest/bicep workout lol. My face sunk in overnight of course I'm on test and deca though but I have been on those for a while now nothing has changed in my drug regimes since the primo, but hey maybe it's the bananas :D
if you use bayer primobolana then its long ester and it take more time UNLES your lean muscle mass is low,, or you are already lean as in 10% or under,, what you look for here is the build in blood,, if you get 200mg in blood prety much imdediatly and do it every 2 day ...then your concentrations wil be high with the acatato and changes immdeiate....with depot...it take longer UNLES you have low level of lean muscle then it may hapen fast,, or already lean int he 10% under
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Biggest Myths of them all:
1. Everyone in the history of the world who had a little muscle mass on them did steroids.
2. Gh15 was ever a pro
3. That there was a time when kigs weren't bunk
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Biggest Myths of them all:
1. Everyone in the history of the world who had a little muscle mass on them did steroids.
2. Gh15 was ever a pro
3. That there was a time when kigs weren't bunk
see ,, this is what i say kids...this is strupid posting
2,, gh15 is a pro bodybuilder
3,, kigtropin original was legit pharma grade level hgh,, they went scam ,,
now since i tried kigtropin both in 2009 and this stam batch i can garentee it was pharma grade level,, the ones here who did it and they told you who they were can tell you it was the real deal
this boaring has a lot of kidos on it k,, i rethink my whole approach in this moment,, i didnt know so many kidos are here
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Biggest Myths of them all:
1. Everyone in the history of the world who had a little muscle mass on them did steroids.
2. Gh15 was ever a pro
3. That there was a time when kigs weren't bunk
Your a shmuck. I know for a fact GH15 is a pro bodybuilder and one of the most famous ever! GH15 doesnt know how I know but I know for a fact who he is and believe me, a shuck like you should be honored he even is here talking with you!
It's literally an honor to have a person of his stature here and certain unappreciative imbeciles don't even realize that.
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again gh15 and csnut18, get back on topic, respect the board rules.
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if you use bayer primobolana then its long ester and it take more time UNLES your lean muscle mass is low,, or you are already lean as in 10% or under,, what you look for here is the build in blood,, if you get 200mg in blood prety much imdediatly and do it every 2 day ...then your concentrations wil be high with the acatato and changes immdeiate....with depot...it take longer UNLES you have low level of lean muscle then it may hapen fast,, or already lean int he 10% under
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what are you talking about chump? I never said I noticed a god damn thing in my physique from the primo so far, just that my face looked tighter. u getting old friend...
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Take this somewhere else.
I don't want a 20 page Israel debate.
Let's get back on track.
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Take this somewhere else.
I don't want a 20 page Israel debate.
Let's get back on track.
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good post, gh15 and csnut18 seem to think they are above the forum rules here.
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Take this somewhere else.
I don't want a 20 page Israel debate.
Let's get back on track.
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I agree with you, the steroid section should be for that topic only. We are human though and sometimes we go on a tangent. When a person throws out an anti semetic slur like this ابن القحبة did, it's hard not to respond. Calling someone a "jew" should warrant disciplinary action, especially on a board owned by a Jewish person. I agree with you and will comply.
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I agree with you, the steroid section should be for that topic only. We are human though and sometimes we go on a tangent. When a person throws out an anti semetic slur like this ابن القحبة did, it's hard not to respond. Calling someone a "jew" should warrant disciplinary action, especially on a board owned by a Jewish person. I agree with you and will comply.
lol
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Take this somewhere else.
I don't want a 20 page Israel debate.
Let's get back on track.
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Agreed. I think Israel is an important topic, actually very important but it would be pretty cool if gear threads were about gear. Personally I don't care if some Israel thread was started on the steroid section, but make it in its own thread. Plus we have the locker room sticky which is always a good place for non gear topics...of course, that thing never gets posted in much lately...used to be a pretty cool thread that was several hundred pages longer till some jackass deleted them.
For the record....yes, I actually support Israel on this topic...actually, on pretty well any topic I can think of...but because I have a brain I'll talk about that in another thread.
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I sware I'm two 200mg shots into primo (first time running it) and my face looks like a different person, gear bloat is gone. WOW...I'm grinning ear to ear lol I forgot I had cheekbones
Primobolan is an excellent steroid. But it doesn't work that fast, placebo effect.
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if you like eating clean then be my friend,, use lot of testosterona,, it still wil give you bloofyness mark my words ,, inorder to utilize testosterona best in high doses....you hav eto have in blood hgh for logn time in high doses ,, no 3 iu wont cut it
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Why can't he just use Aromasin? It used to be referred in the bible as the best anti-estrogen around.
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lol arnbold junior,, you sound lik ea begginer ...the vas majority now day is the avatato version done by top chef,, make enantato version look like a kid incomparison
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Why is south europe so far behind?
Here we have only legit spanish primobolan depot, have spoken with two local dealers and they haven't even heard about that injectable acetate, only the old oral primo. :'(
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see ,, this is what i say kids...this is strupid posting
2,, gh15 is a pro bodybuilder
3,, kigtropin original was legit pharma grade level hgh,, they went scam ,,
now since i tried kigtropin both in 2009 and this stam batch i can garentee it was pharma grade level,, the ones here who did it and they told you who they were can tell you it was the real deal
this boaring has a lot of kidos on it k,, i rethink my whole approach in this moment,, i didnt know so many kidos are here
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You said it yourself. This fucking place is the thunderdome. You can say what the fuck you want, claim people you know, people that know you, but unless you post a fucking pic IT ALL MEANS BULLSHIT.
So you say you are a pro. Great. prove it? Oh, the elves know! have them prove it. You provide some great info and at the same time some great comic relief.
By the way. Kato is a well behaved dog. You did a great job training him. Saw you near the Ralphs with him and he looked great.
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You said it yourself. This fucking place is the thunderdome. You can say what the fuck you want, claim people you know, people that know you, but unless you post a fucking pic IT ALL MEANS BULLSHIT.
So you say you are a pro. Great. prove it? Oh, the elves know! have them prove it. You provide some great info and at the same time some great comic relief.
By the way. Kato is a well behaved dog. You did a great job training him. Saw you near the Ralphs with him and he looked great.
He has proved it many times with subtle hints. The fact that you weren't wise enough to pick up on them, is your problem. I certainly know with 100% certainty who he is. He is indeed someone you would be wise to listen to.
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gh lap dogs chiming in to ruin another thread ::)
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gh lap dogs chiming in to ruin another thread ::)
Lap dogs lol. Your another one of them who thinks gh15 is a fat kid in his mommys basement?
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ask yourself why this is nto a sport....you have the answer on getbig.com,,while the other boardings are deeping in self love of the fake supplements and kissing ass of eachother physiqe becaue they are on primobolana 1 gram a week and 10 iu gh a day ....
here in the thunderodme you actualy understand why this is not a sport,, why bodybuild is activity that is very cult like and why the fellas in it are all drug addicts that lie and will stop in nothing
this is your answer to why bodybuild is not a sport and never wil be a sprot
drugs! and only! drugs
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Lap dogs lol. Your another one of them who thinks gh15 is a fat kid in his mommys basement?
What's your story cunts18?
hints? What claiming he was top 3 8 years ago? Hmmm, either he's Dorian, Ronnie or Jay Cutler.
We all know it's Nasser. The only reason he posts so much now is that Fat Alex is pulling his strings.
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ask yourself why this is nto a sport....you have the answer on getbig.com,,while the other boardings are deeping in self love of the fake supplements and kissing ass of eachother physiqe becaue they are on primobolana 1 gram a week and 10 iu gh a day ....
here in the thunderodme you actualy understand why this is not a sport,, why bodybuild is activity that is very cult like and why the fellas in it are all drug addicts that lie and will stop in nothing
this is your answer to why bodybuild is not a sport and never wil be a sprot
drugs! and only! drugs
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Compared to other sports, baseball, football, whatever, sure, you're right, bodybuilding isn't a sport, but this can't be based on the hormone factor alone. PED's are as much a part of main stream sports as they are in bodybuilding...not in the amounts but they're widespread.
Side-Note: I'm not trying to start the bodybuilding is/is not a sport argument...I personally don't care what people call it. You can easily make an argument either way. Personally, IMO bodybuilding is just bodybuilding...call it or don't call it whatever else you want.
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you dont need to tell this to me,, tell it to the filt nortom ,, and the filt heris,, and the filt keyosho,,
YOU GOT TO BE SUPER DUMB BUT I MEAN SUPER SUPER DUMB to not know that lay nortom is on LEGIT primobolona acatato and trenbolona acatato,, the fella is a skinny twig! look i even used americano word! twig! ,,
anyone who actualy used! primobolana acatato or even depot ...can tell you that the combo of primobolana and trenbolona create GREAT GREAT GRETE phyqies that when hgh aded to them even a sociopath skinny twig like that mother fuck normtom,, even he! can look like a bodybuild!
lieing filts! i can not stand what they did to so many youngsters,, they HAVE MUST MUST MUST be punished
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PRIMO ENTH IS GOOD TOO. GOT DEFIANT SO U KNO ITS G2G.
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PRIMO ENTH IS GOOD TOO. GOT DEFIANT SO U KNO ITS G2G.
didnt defiant scam everybody on kigs and has never made an attempt to make it right? am i thinking of the right guy ?
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That what I thought as well T
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How come all of a sudden in many different threads some getbigers are saying "primobolan" left and right up and down. Like it is all about this compound now, nothing else matters.
What's up? Is it drug of the month? Did someone buy a million ampouls with a tight expiration date? Or is it because the world is ending in december 2012?
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How come all of a sudden in many different threads some getbigers are saying "primobolan" left and right up and down. Like it is all about this compound now, nothing else matters.
What's up? Is it drug of the month? Did someone buy a million ampouls with a tight expiration date? Or is it because the world is ending in december 2012?
It's getting attention because of our resident God.
It's a wonderful compound and if you get legit primo you will love it.
I've ran legit HG primo at 900mg EW and it was a good cycle, but it didn't blow me away like what you hear today.
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It's getting attention because of our resident God.
It's a wonderful compound and if you get legit primo you will love it.
I've ran legit HG primo at 900mg EW and it was a good cycle, but it didn't blow me away like what you hear today.
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primobolana doesnt blow you !,, it shirnkwrap you ...it make the lines there...and when lines are there....the illusion of being bigger hapeenininininininininin ing,, and then.....no more bloof ball and welcome into the frank zane catagory of conditioned offseason...ofcourse hgh with it and yo utalk mutatition ,, many other produts should be there like trenbolona but this is for another day
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primobolana doesnt blow you !,, it shirnkwrap you ...it make the lines there...and when lines are there....the illusion of being bigger hapeenininininininininin ing,, and then.....no more bloof ball and welcome into the frank zane catagory of conditioned offseason...ofcourse hgh with it and yo utalk mutatition ,, many other produts should be there like trenbolona but this is for another day
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Why don't just use tren instead of primo?
i mean it's pretty expensive and hard to find legit also doesn't sound like it does anything that tren doesn't
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because trenbolona can cause you side effect in the mental state,, it is not funny to be on it in higher dose,, inadition its possible to be on it for long time i do it all the time but! trenbolona bunk you in androgenic way ,, primobolana shrinkwrap you into new muscle ,, when i say bulk you in androgenic way ...it grow you and shred the fat off and grow you from the inside out....but IT THICKER YOU all over whiel primobolana only shrink wrap you and reveal the lines it DOESNT thicker you
this is why i say COMBO OF BOTH is what we all use,, ALL OF US,, when i say all of us i mean the other fucking ploticaly correct chiwawas that wil never tell you anything about their drug life for they are pussys!
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gh15 is i could get some human grade primo enanthate but it would cost me double what id pay for legit tren ace... what do you think. should i buy some. i might be able to afford 100mg per day for 8 weeks or so. but on the other hand i could get 6 months worth of tren for the same price.
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gh15 is i could get some human grade primo enanthate but it would cost me double what id pay for legit tren ace... what do you think. should i buy some. i might be able to afford 100mg per day for 8 weeks or so. but on the other hand i could get 6 months worth of tren for the same price.
def trenbolona,, but! if you can be sure this is LEGIT primobolana then id find a way to get it and do 700-800mg ,, i would also make sure i have hgh in hand for the 3 dimentional ,,
try to find primobolana acatato,, and do it with trenbolona ,, but if you intend on eating almost anything...you have HAVE to use hgh and legit hgh ,, thanktropin is good
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