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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: littleguns on February 17, 2012, 09:23:20 AM
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As I get older, digestion is not what it used to be. Instead of taking an individual cocktail of Digestive enzymes I was thinking about one of these greens shakes perhaps first thing in the morning.
Anyone use these and see any positive results?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/orange-oximega-greens.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/fruit-greens-phytofoods.html
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As I get older, digestion is not what it used to be. Instead of taking an individual cocktail of Digestive enzymes I was thinking about one of these greens shakes perhaps first thing in the morning.
Anyone use these and see any positive results?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/clabs/orange-oximega-greens.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/fruit-greens-phytofoods.html
The one I use is a real good one. It has pretty much everything you will need in a greens drink I use this one:
http://www.iherb.com/Nutricology-ProGreens-with-Advanced-Probiotic-Formula-9-27-oz-265-g/3467?at=0
For my fruits and ORAC, I use this one:
http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Organic-Berry-High-Powder-8-5-oz-240-g-Discontinued-Item/391?at=0
I know it's not good to eat fruits and vegetables at the same time, so why do they make a fruit/greens drink in one? Wouldn't that be bad? I think it would be better to drink the fruit drink separate from the greens drink.
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hmmm... broccoli anyone? ::)
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Thanks for the input, I am not a real veggies person but I am looking to use this for more of the enzyme properties that alot of these have
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Thanks for the input, I am not a real veggies person but I am looking to use this for more of the enzyme properties that alot of these have
hmmm...
gotta tell ya, my first impression of someone who doesn't eat certain healthy foods (unless it's due to a dangerous allergy) is that they lack emotional maturity... it's kind of like meeting someone who still has a 'blanky'...
vegetables taste really good and are good for you...
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hmmm...
gotta tell ya, my first impression of someone who doesn't eat certain healthy foods (unless it's due to a dangerous allergy) is that they lack emotional maturity... it's kind of like meeting someone who still has a 'blanky'...
vegetables taste really good and are good for you...
Thanks for the input, totally wrong but thanks for chiming in.
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Thanks for the input, totally wrong but thanks for chiming in.
LOL... do you have crones? do you lack a lower intestine?
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Thanks for the input, I am not a real veggies person but I am looking to use this for more of the enzyme properties that alot of these have
What kinds of enzymes are they?
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What kinds of enzymes are they?
Monty - acidopholos (sp), Lactobacillus, papain, licorice and a whole host of others, plus high.antioxidants.
Not using this as a replacement, rather a "supplement". I do eat alot of raw veggies vs cooked but again not alot of enzymes in these foods......
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Monty - acidopholos (sp), Lactobacillus, papain, licorice and a whole host of others, plus high.antioxidants.
Not using this as a replacement, rather a "supplement". I do eat alot of raw veggies vs cooked but again not alot of enzymes in these foods......
Gotcha.
I read in your original post that you wanted to avoid taking a "D/E cocktail," but many multi-enzyme formulas contain the ones you listed here.
Of course, you can also purchase others.
I use probiotics and a good multi-enzymatic formula daily.
This time of year I eat a lot of kale and avocados. I'll also buy blueberries when they're on sale, look decent, and come from a good place.
During the summer months, I eat lots of spinach, asparagus, brussel sprouts, peas, blueberries, and strawberries, but nowhere near the amounts I know I should get.
IMO, using a greens powder can only benefit you, provided you're not relying on it in lieu of the real thing.
That would be like getting all of your protein from powder supplements.
And, in answer to your original question: no, I've never used either of the products in question. I would shop around and compare prices and read reviews of different brands. Also consider sticking to reputable names like Jarrow, NOW, etc.
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Gotcha.
I read in your original post that you wanted to avoid taking a "D/E cocktail," but many multi-enzyme formulas contain the ones you listed here.
Of course, you can also purchase others.
I use probiotics and a good multi-enzymatic formula daily.
This time of year I eat a lot of kale and avocados. I'll also buy blueberries when they're on sale, look decent, and come from a good place.
During the summer months, I eat lots of spinach, asparagus, brussel sprouts, peas, blueberries, and strawberries, but nowhere near the amounts I know I should get.
IMO, using a greens powder can only benefit you, provided you're not relying on it in lieu of the real thing.
That would be like getting all of your protein from powder supplements.
And, in answer to your original question: no, I've never used either of the products in question. I would shop around and compare prices and read reviews of different brands. Also consider sticking to reputable names like Jarrow, NOW, etc.
that's what i thought i understood from the OP... do either of you have evidence from a double-blind clinical study tracking any benefits from any enzyme supplementation (including yogurt)?
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I've read a few that suggest that they don't do diddly...
http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/121/4/e850.full (http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/121/4/e850.full)
of course i have never seen a study completed on bodybuilders
google list:
http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=probiotic+double+blind&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=_1ZBT7nID-Ly0gHLosijBw&ved=0CBgQgQMwAA (http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=probiotic+double+blind&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=_1ZBT7nID-Ly0gHLosijBw&ved=0CBgQgQMwAA)
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...do either of you have evidence from a double-blind clinical study tracking any benefits from any enzyme supplementation (including yogurt)?
Nope. ;D
Although, the enzymes I use are the ones our own bodies produce in the intestines and pancreas: lipase, lactase, protease, and amylase.
I chose these simply because our bodies manufacture and use them, but I’m uncertain how effectively the supplemental form aids in the hydrolysis of foods.
Anecdotal evidence suggests to me they may work since I experience substantially less bloat and produce healthier looking stools when including them in my daily regimen - signs of more complete digestion, IMO.
I’m not so confident in the probiotics, as I haven’t noticed anything different since adding them. They are a recent addition to my supplement list and I may discontinue them once my current supply is finished.
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right... see i add metamucil to my shakes (to slow digestion) and it makes me shit bricks... but it's just cilium fiber... the main ingredient in a lot of "enzyme" formulas...
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right... see i add metamucil to my shakes (to slow digestion) and it makes me shit bricks... but it's just cilium fiber... the main ingredient in a lot of "enzyme" formulas...
Psyllium husk is a great dietary addition. I personally don't use it. I've tried it several times, but think it may be "too much" insoluble fiber for my system; I also eat a good bit of grains in my diet as it is.
The multi-enzyme I currently use is called Essential Enzymes by Source Naturals.
It contains:
Pancreatin
Protease
Lipase
Amylase
Amyloglucosidase
Cellulase
Hemicellulase
Lactase
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Like anything it comes down to the Mfg and of course the potency. I am not lactose intolerant but do get "gassy" ocassionally so Ido use a lactose pill and do add a fiber powder supplement from time to time to slow absorbtion of some foods
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i never have digestive issues unless i drink 15+ beers... ;D
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i never have digestive issues unless i drink 15+ beers... ;D
Well, duh...
15 provides nowhere near enough barley for a bb'ing diet!!
8)
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haha...
these days i have been sticking to vodka... much lower on the calorie scale... still have one 16oz beer/day though... good for recovery
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... still have one 16oz beer/day though... good for recovery
Brewer's yeast, baby!!
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“Milk is for babies. When you grow up you have to drink beer.”
---Arnold Schwarzenegger
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I've read a few that suggest that they don't do diddly...
http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/121/4/e850.full (http://www.pediatricsdigest.mobi/content/121/4/e850.full)
of course i have never seen a study completed on bodybuilders
google list:
http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=probiotic+double+blind&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=_1ZBT7nID-Ly0gHLosijBw&ved=0CBgQgQMwAA (http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=probiotic+double+blind&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=_1ZBT7nID-Ly0gHLosijBw&ved=0CBgQgQMwAA)
I read the first study that you posted. It is saying that when pregnant mothers took probiotics, their children, up to the age of 2, had no decreased incidence of dermatitis. Im not sure how this study is relevant to adults taking digestive enzymes to aid in digesting food, specifically vegetables? maybe you linked the wrong study?
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I read the first study that you posted. It is saying that when pregnant mothers took probiotics, their children, up to the age of 2, had no decreased incidence of dermatitis. Im not sure how this study is relevant to adults taking digestive enzymes to aid in digesting food, specifically vegetables? maybe you linked the wrong study?
did you read the bottom part of my post?
"probiotics" is not even a medical/clinical term... it's a marketing name just like "canola"....