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OBAMA WANTS HIGH GAS PRICES.
http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html
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Obama’s Energy Sec. wants $7 to $9 Unleaded gas prices
Posted by Juggernaut (Diary)
Thursday, January 20th at 6:53PM EST
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary), pilgrim (Diary)
The liberal media tried to bury this story as quick as Energy Sec. Chu suggested unleaded prices would solve our energy problems forcing people to buy alternative energy cars and sub compacts. Well that dog don’t hunt, this is America, not Europe. I think Obama ran for office in the wrong country because beyond food, wine, tourism and other Euro products the majority of us don’t envision Euro anything. Especially $7 gas. When unleaded hit $3 a gallon many people began to cut back on spending because they spent a fortune just to commute to work and travel daily.
Interviews with Chu help to explain why the Gulf is in slow motion while oil rigs corrode waiting on the multi-tasker in chief to grant permissions again. Democrats want to punish American success with a forced move towards cars that aren’t deemed reliable as of yet. While to early adopters and the wannabee seen types will buy electric cars now, they’ll soon find the costs are higher than just the cost of electricity. Steven Chu thinks we can make this shift in 5 years while most Americans will wait and see. Economies of Scale will reduce manufacturing costs as more people buy alternative energy cars but the fact remains, till such cars can travel 300 miles or more on a single charge and or companies produce larger vehicles, the majority will sit on the sidelines. And of course the majority can’t afford to switch cars every year so expect 2 decades till we see a major decline in gas powered cars…………before then we’ll need more power plants but nuclear is out all thanks to enviro-fascism coming from the left. Solar and wind will take time to develop and Chu wants us to pay more now. Looks more like a get rich scheme wrapped around a specious plan to reward their own success with our money. R&D takes time, throwing more money around won’t speed up inovation, especially when the money comes from the people via Obama policy. And I thought Obama said “no new taxes” too? Yes he did!
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/01/07/gas-prices-under-president-obama-in-pictures/
Fact: President Barack Obama’s Energy Secretary Steven Chu wants to “figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.” At the time he made the statement, gas cost $7 – $8 a gallon in Europe.
Fact: Since taking office, President Obama’s entire energy agenda has made a gallon of gas more expensive:
•Immediately after taking office in 2009, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, canceled 77 leases for oil and gas drilling in Utah.
•The EPA announced new rules mandating the use of 36 billion gallons worth of renewable fuels (like ethanol) by 2020.
All of these policies raise gas prices at the pump by either: 1) decreasing the availability of domestic energy supplies, or 2) increasing regulatory costs on gasoline production.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2008/12/obama-energy-pi.html
“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe,” Steven Chu, the director of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, told the Wall Street Journal in September.
Chu said he favors gradually ramping up gasoline taxes over 15 years to nudge consumers into buying cars that are more fuel efficient and homes which are closer to work. Chu spoke with The Wall Street Journal in September but the newspaper did not publish the gas tax comments until last seek, shortly after the Nobel-prize winning physicist had been identified as Obama’s nominee for Energy secretary.
The president-elect acknowledges that gas prices have come down since the summer when they reached $4 per gallon. He worries, however, that the overall economic downturn makes American families ill-equipped to shoulder higher prices.
“I can imagine in the hearings Chu facing problems because he dares say, ‘higher prices,’” said Schipper. “But I think there is no solution that does not involve higher prices.”
Schipper, who shared a lab at Berkeley with Chu from 1972-74, estimates that the average cost of gasoline in Europe at present is somewhere between $7-9 per gallon.
Schipper thinks Obama’s concerns about not placing additional burdens on America’s families can be addressed by agreeing to rebate all — or close to all — of the money raised by higher fuel taxes.
“The answer is: raise the price of gasoline and give all the money back,” said Schipper.
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LMFAO!!!! Almost a year to the day.
FU man CHU!!!!!
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OBAMA WANTS HIGH GAS PRICES.
http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html
His energy secretary does, he does not. From the article you posted:
But Mr. Obama has dismissed the idea of boosting the federal gasoline tax, a move energy experts say could be the single most effective step to promote alternative energies and temper demand. Mr. Obama said Sunday that a heightened gas tax would be a "mistake" because it would put "additional burdens on American families right now."
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His energy secretary does, he does not. From the article you posted:
FALSE:
States his intent to skyrocket prices.
Says he preferred a GRADUAL ADJUSTMENT to higher prices.
Totally deflects the question and wants people out of their cars. Makes case for his boondaggles.
Says he wants the govt to send "price signals" to customers by having higher prices.
Want more?
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His energy secretary does, he does not. From the article you posted:
don't argue with 333386 he believes in posting half truths,he gets all his shit from far right sites and post them as facts :o nothing new
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don't argue with 333386 he believes in posting half truths,he gets all his shit from far right sites and post them as facts :o nothing new
I posted the youtube videos you stupid piece of shit.
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Hey moron - guess what - OBAMA WANTS PRICES HIGHER THAN IN EUROPE!
This is his own fucking words!
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http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html
But Mr. Obama has dismissed the idea of boosting the federal gasoline tax, a move energy experts say could be the single most effective step to promote alternative energies and temper demand. Mr. Obama said Sunday that a heightened gas tax would be a "mistake" because it would put "additional burdens on American families right now."
this is in the same article you posted,now you have to post more shit to refute the shit you originally posted, who does this but you :D :D
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http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html
But Mr. Obama has dismissed the idea of boosting the federal gasoline tax, a move energy experts say could be the single most effective step to promote alternative energies and temper demand. Mr. Obama said Sunday that a heightened gas tax would be a "mistake" because it would put "additional burdens on American families right now."
this is in the same article you posted,now you have to post more shit to refute the shit you originally posted, who does this but you :D :D
LOL - yet at the same time he was pushing Cap & Trade - which was going to SKYROCKET energy prices overall.
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Hey moron - guess what - OBAMA WANTS PRICES HIGHER THAN IN EUROPE!
This is his own fucking words!
It's pointless arguing with welfare leeches who are high school dropouts.
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It's pointless arguing with welfare leeches who are high school dropouts.
get off break and make my burger,boy.no wonder i've been in line for 5 minutes :D :D
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get off break and make my burger,boy.no wonder i've been in line for 5 minutes :D :D
Please refute any of the videos i posted blackass.
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get off break and make my burger,boy.no wonder i've been in line for 5 minutes :D :D
I can't help but laugh at you trying to insult someone when your post is structured like a 5-year-old wrote it.
Settling in for another 18 hour day on here?
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I can't help but laugh at you trying to insult someone when your post is structured like a 5-year-old wrote it.
Settling in for another 18 hour day on here?
now that burger king has wifi are you going to be on all day,i'm going to have to talk to your boss the quality of your service is starting to slip i had a pickle on my sandwich and i told you no fu#king pickles
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now that burger king has wifi are you going to be on all day,i'm going to have to talk to your boss the quality of your service is starting to slip i had a pickle on my sandwich and i told you no fu#king pickles
Please refute any of the videos above.
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http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122904040307499791.html
But Mr. Obama has dismissed the idea of boosting the federal gasoline tax, a move energy experts say could be the single most effective step to promote alternative energies and temper demand. Mr. Obama said Sunday that a heightened gas tax would be a "mistake" because it would put "additional burdens on American families right now."
this is in the same article you posted,now you have to post more shit to refute the shit you originally posted, who does this but you :D :D
Blackass - he appointed FU man CHU because of his desire to skyrocket energy prices you moron!
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Please refute any of the videos above.
Look at that post you quoted. I'd be surprised if this moron could velcro his sneakers in the morning, let alone refute anything. All he's good for is shitty Comedy Central clips no one watches and being one of the board's punching bags.
Incoming meltdown littered with grammatical errors.
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i watched one,it had to do with mass transit,so your aganst mass transit ::)
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i watched one,it had to do with mass transit,so your aganst mass transit ::)
What he is saying is that he likes high prices so that he can jam people into crowded cattle cars.
Hint hint - "high speed rail" is nothing more than more crony bs for his corrupt donors.
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Look at that post you quoted. I'd be surprised if this moron could velcro his sneakers in the morning, let alone refute anything. All he's good for is shitty Comedy Central clips no one watches and being one of the board's punching bags.
Incoming meltdown littered with grammatical errors.
hahhaa the getbig tough guy still lives with his mommy,give your mother a break and stop leaching off her :D :D :D.twenty plus and still living at home :D :D
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hahhaa the getbig tough guy still lives with his mommy,give your mother a break and stop leaching off her :D :D :D.twenty plus and still living at home :D :D
As if being in a group home and tied down to a bed like you are is better?
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Blacken, you settling in for another 18 hour day on here? :D :D :D :D
Welfare leeches trying to talk shit, hahahaha.
As if being in a group home and tied down to a bed like you are is better?
He seems to revel in his entitlement dependence.
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As if being in a group home and tied down to a bed like you are is better?
i can't be tied down if i'm typing ;D
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Blacken, you settling in for another 18 hour day on here? :D :D :D :D
Welfare leeches trying to talk shit, hahahaha.
He seems to revel in his entitlement dependence.
this coming from a guy that has 3 times the post i have,and spends twice as much time on here then i do, i guess it helps you have no girlfriend and live with your mother ;D
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this coming from a guy that has 3 times the post i have,and spends twice as much time on here then i do, i guess it helps you have no girlfriend and live with your mother ;D
Can you please even give an attempt to refute my videos? Even one will do.
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this coming from a guy that has 3 times the post i have,and spends twice as much time on here then i do, i guess it helps you have no girlfriend and live with your mother ;D
You've outed yourself on close to a dozen gimmicks here, all of which have thousands of posts and which you use to talk to yourself.
You clearly don't work and are on benefits for what is most likely a psychological disorder.
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You've outed yourself on close to a dozen gimmicks here, all of which have thousands of posts and which you use to talk to yourself.
You clearly don't work and are on benefits for what is most likely a psychological disorder.
don't be angry with me because you flip burgers and live with your mommy.maybe someday you can work up to ass. manager and flip burgers and live with your mommy :D
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Ready for higher gas prices? Guess who’s idea it was.
The Orange County Register blog Orange Punch ^ | 2-22-2012 | Mark Landsbaum
Is gasoline getting too costly for you? Are you already cutting back on your trips to the store, to the theater, to grandma’s?
What did you expect?
Remember President Barack Obama’s energy secretary Steven Chu saying he wanted much higher gas prices – because it’s good for you?
“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe,” Chu said in 2008. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at orangepunch.ocregister.c om ...
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i seem to remember a repub pres. making out with the king :D
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i seem to remember a repub pres. making out with the king :D
correct - so GWB , who is regarded as the worst potus in recent memory, is the same as Obama correct?
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:D :D
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:D :D
Good - so at least you can see how the worst president of all time according to your leftists is the same as the current Occupier in Chief.
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Bowing makes you and your country look weak . kissing and holding hands with another man makes you look strong. :D :D :D :D
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Bowing makes you and your country look weak . kissing and holding hands with another man makes you look strong. :D :D :D :D
Who said that? No me. I did not defend Bush doing this bullshit. On the other hand, you cultists and slaves will defend ANYTHING your slave master whips you into going along with.
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the problem is you and the other hypocrite repubs didn't criticize bush for kissing the king.see my point :o
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the problem is you and the other hypocrite repubs didn't criticize bush for kissing the king.see my point :o
That is utter bullshit. It was the base that killed Dubai Ports, the base that killed amnesty for illegals, the base that killed harriet meirs, the base that killed TARP 1.
You leftist cultists and slaves have never said a word, NOT A FUCKING WORD, about anything this tyrant has done.
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only 5 more years, get used to it :D :D
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only 5 more years, get used to it :D :D
And you think that is a good thing?
your moron party allowed obama to get away with the NDAA, broken promises on obamacare, an energy tax, lies about gitmo, illegal drone strikes and infenite detention, bankster bailouts and hook ups, 1% giveaways, etc.
Not a freaking peep from anyone in your communist hell hole party.
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How can anyone possibly support this radical freak show.
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If gas prices climb too steeply and too quickly in the US, the economy, already moribund, will sink. The US is not Europe. We do not have the transportation infrastructure to support things such as trains and other modes of public transportation en masse. We are too spread out, outside of places like NYC, LA, and Chicago.
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Bam’s gas-price plan
Last Updated: 12:22 AM, February 23, 2012
Posted: 11:42 PM, February 22, 2012
As oil hits $105 a barrel, the White House is getting defensive — fearing that $5-plus gasoline this summer might imperil the president’s re-election.
So President Obama is to publicly address the subject today. But does he even have a plan?
Perhaps as prelude, the White House yesterday declared that the president had no “responsibility” for gas prices — a hilarious take, given the gasoline-price scourging Obama laid on George W. Bush in 2008.
We’ll stipulate that pump prices are driven by many factors — not the least being Middle East uncertainty.
But if the American people think Obama hasn’t done everything possible to buffer oil shocks, there’s reason: He hasn’t.
The administration on Tuesday blamed last month’s shelving of the Keystone XL pipeline on “political” acts by Republicans in Congress. In fact, Obama ditched Keystone — which would have brought Canadian crude oil to Gulf Coast refineries — to keep his greenie base happy.
And the pipeline is but one of many Team Obama decisions that have left America’s oil supply more vulnerable to the vagaries of world events.
* Under Obama, the American Petroleum Institute notes, leases on federal lands in the West are down 44 percent, while permits and new well drilling are both down 39 percent, compared to 2007.
* In the wake of the BP oil spill, Obama shut down most Gulf of Mexico drilling; there’s been a 57 percent drop in monthly deepwater permits over the last three years, according to the Greater New Orleans’ Gulf Permit Index.
* The EPA continues to block drilling off the coast of Alaska — where an estimated 27 billion barrels are waiting to be tapped.
Actually, perhaps there is a plan.
In a pre-nomination interview in 2008, now-Energy Secretary Steven Chu told The Wall Street Journal, “Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe.”
Mission accomplished?
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editorials/bam_gas_price_plan_B1bfwSlY9X99J1gwZYctGM#ixzz1nDKVt7Kk
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Obama is so fucking clueless... Trump is a clown but he is right when he says the entire economy is linked to gas prices. Everything is impacted by the price of gas. The last thing we need right now is gas going up.
Yes, 3333 has proven that Obama does want higher gas prices. Just don't forget, Bush wanted higher gas prices too, just for a different reason than Obama.
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Obama is so fucking clueless... Trump is a clown but he is right when he says the entire economy is linked to gas prices. Everything is impacted by the price of gas. The last thing we need right now is gas going up.
Yes, 3333 has proven that Obama does want higher gas prices. Just don't forget, Bush wanted higher gas prices too, just for a different reason than Obama.
Agreed. When Bush appointed Bernake - that was all you needed to know, along with all the other shit w the house of saud, his buddies in texas etc. .
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Obama accuses GOP of playing politics with higher gas prices
By Amie Parnes and Andrew Restuccia - 02/23/12 02:26 PM ET
http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/e2-wire/212305-obama-accuses-gop-of-playing-politics-with-higher-gas-prices
President Obama railed against Republicans on Thursday for “licking their chops” and using a spike in gas prices as a political opportunity.
Appearing at the University of Miami in a high-profile speech on energy, Obama aimed to deflect the criticism his administration has received for its energy policies and for higher gas prices.
Obama sought to telegraph a message that he is doing all he can to improve energy policy while accusing Republicans of politicizing the issue.
“Only in politics do people greet bad news so enthusiastically,” Obama said before a crowd of students.
“You pay more and they’re licking their chops? And you can bet since it’s an election year, they’re already dusting off their three-point plans for $2 gas. I’ll save you the suspense: step one is drill, step two is drill, and step three is keep drilling.
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“We heard the same thing in 2007 when I was running for president,” he continued. “We hear the same thing every year. We’ve heard the same thing for 30 years.”
But Obama said “the American people aren’t stupid” and continued to emphasize that drilling isn’t the only solution to fixing the nation’s energy problems, “especially since we’re already drilling.”
“It’s a bumper sticker,” Obama said. “It’s not a strategy to solve our energy challenge. It’s a strategy to get politicians through an election.
“You know there are no quick fixes to this problem and you know we can’t just drill our way to lower gas prices,” he said. “If we’re going to take control of our energy future, if we’re going to avoid these gas price spikes down the line, then we need a sustained, all-of-the-above strategy that develops every available source of American energy — oil, gas, wind solar, nuclear, bio-fuels and more.”
Republicans — both on Capitol Hill and on the campaign trail — believe Obama is vulnerable to attacks on the high gas prices.
Obama’s speech comes after gas prices rose 3.3 cents nationwide overnight, costing consumers an average of $3.61 a gallon, according to AAA.
Republicans also point to Obama’s decision to reject the proposed Keystone XL oil pipeline. The White House argues Republicans forced Obama to deny a permit with a timeframe that did not give the administration adequate time to conduct an environmental and health review.
The GOP has hammered Obama on the issue, arguing he is standing in the way of expanded drilling, and GOP presidential candidates have vowed to lower gas prices.
But federal policymakers have very few options to lower gas prices in the short term, according to experts. Gas prices are largely tethered to oil prices, which are set on global markets. Even a dramatic expansion of domestic oil-and-gas production would have little short-term effect on gas prices.
Still, Obama said he has instructed his administration “to look for every single area where we can make an impact and help consumers in the months ahead, from permitting to delivery bottlenecks to what’s going on in the oil markets.”
“And we will keep taking as many steps as we can in the coming weeks,” he added.
Obama touted what the White House calls an “all-of-the-above” energy plan that focuses on reducing reliance on foreign oil, expanding domestic oil production, improving vehicle fuel efficiency and investing in renewable energy.
While calling for a broad plan, the president also stressed the importance of increased oil-and-gas production, a move meant to counter GOP claims that the president has limited domestic drilling.
“Now, we absolutely need safe, responsible oil production here in America,” Obama said. “That’s why under my administration, America is producing more oil today than at any time in the last eight years.”
The federal Energy Information Administration said last month that domestic oil production increased from 5.1 million barrels per day in 2007 to 5.5 million barrels per day in 2010. That number is expected to increase to 6.7 million barrels per day in 2020, the highest level since 1994.
Foreign oil imports into the United States are also expected to drop from 49 percent of liquid fuel consumption in 2010 to 36 percent in 2035. Additional oil savings are expected as a result of the administration’s new vehicle fuel economy regulations, the agency said.
Republicans argue the administration doesn’t deserve credit — they say the increase is the result of actions by previous administrations coupled with advances in technology and increased drilling on state and private lands.
The president again took aim at a slew of tax breaks for oil and natural-gas companies, bashing Republicans and oil-state Democrats for opposing bills to eliminate them.
“It’s outrageous. It’s inexcusable,” Obama said. “And every politician who’s been fighting to keep these subsidies in place should explain to the American people why the oil industry needs more of their money. Especially at a time like this.”
The president outlined a plan to cut $39 billion worth of tax breaks during the next decade in his fiscal 2013 budget request. The president echoed the plan in a tax reform framework unveiled by the Treasury Department Wednesday.
Before his speech, Obama toured the university’s Industrial Assessment Center, where students are taught to become industrial energy-efficiency experts as they help small- to mid-sized manufacturers reduce their energy costs.
The center — in swing-state Florida — is one of 24 nationwide facilities across the nation and is part of the Department of Energy’s Industrial Assessment Program, White House officials said.
While he’s in the battleground state, his 14th visit to Florida since taking office, Obama will attend a string of fundraisers, two in Miami and one in Orlando, in the heart of the crucial I-4 corridor where many of the state’s independent voters live.
This story was posted at 2:26 p.m. and updated at 3 p.m.
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Obama: Use 'algae' as substitute for oil
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/obama-use-algae-substitute-oil/391536
by Joel Gehrke Commentary Staff Writer
President Obama admitted today that he does not have a "silver bullet" solution for skyrocketing gas prices, but he proposed alternative energy sources such as "a plant-like substance, algae" as a way of cutting dependence on oil by 17 percent.
"We’re making new investments in the development of gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel that’s actually made from a plant-like substance, algae -- you've got a bunch of algae out here," Obama said at the University of Miami today. "If we can figure out how to make energy out of that, we'll be doing alright. Believe it or not, we could replace up to 17 percent of the oil we import for transportation with this fuel that we can grow right here in America."
The Department of Energy (DOE) currently spends about $85 million on 30 research projects "to develop algal biofuels," according to the White House, which announced that Obama is committing another $14 million to the idea.
Obama did not say when he expected algae-based fuel to reach that level, but the federal government has a dodgy track record with respect to developing alternative vehicle fuels. Biodiesel, for example, accounted for less than 1 percent of the diesel fuel market as of 2008, according to the Energy Information Administration. And of course there's ethanol -- after four decades, tens of billions of dollars in subsidies, and draconian mandates that force it on unwilling consumers, ethanol was five percent of vehicle consumption (by volume) as of 2008. Although algae-to-gas is a very different idea, it is still in its early stages.
"We're not going to transition out of oil anytime soon," Obama added, before touting the record high domestic gas production right now and the agreement with Mexico to drill in the Gulf of Mexico, while still calling for expanded investment in alternative energy.
Oil industry leaders reject Obama's claim to have given significant support to oil
production. "These have been the most difficult three years from a policy standpoint that I've ever seen
in my career," Bruce Vincent, president of Swift Energy, an oil and gas company in Houston, said
yesterday. "They've done nothing but restrict access and delay permitting."
Obama affirmed the need to protect the planet by developing clean energy alternatives, but The Washington Examiner's Michael Barone argues that he hasn't been consistent even on that front. "We’ve prohibited a pipeline, the safest way to transport oil, from Canada, but we’re aiding Mexico in offshore drilling, which is riskier, and by a firm that lacks the experience of the U.S. firms we have been trying to prevent drilling in the same body of water," Barone wrote yesterday. "Does this make any sense at all?"
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Obama administration moves ahead with sweeping rules requiring cleaner gasoline
http://www.washingtonpost.com ^ | march 28, 2013 | Juliet Eilperin
Posted on March 28, 2013 7:27:50 PM EDT by lowbridge
The Environmental Protection Agency will move ahead Friday with rules requiring cleaner gasoline and cars nationwide, despite fierce protests from the oil industry and some conservative Democrats, according to several individuals briefed on the matter.
The proposed rules — which had been stuck in regulatory limbo since December 2011 in the face of intense political opposition — would cut the amount of sulfur in U.S. gasoline by two-thirds and impose fleetwide pollution limits on new vehicles by 2017.
The regulation enjoys support from auto companies, state regulators, environmental groups and equipment manufacturers. But oil industry officials and their congressional allies argue the proposed standards would raise gasoline prices and could result in greater carbon dioxide emissions because they will spur additional refining activity.
Opponents estimate the standards would force refiners to spend $10 billion to upgrade their facilities and an additional $2.4 billion in annual operating costs, adding 6 to 9 cents to the cost of a gallon of gas. Public health advocates say the ultimate cost would amount to less than a penny per gallon because of provisions giving refiners flexibility in complying with the standards.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...