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Title: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: david94 on February 29, 2012, 10:56:20 AM
Why this guy who has incredible knowledge about drugs,
who is rich enough to buy as many drugs as he wants,
who has easily access to the most legit drugs
and who prepares the best pros in the world and makes them much bigger and leaner, looks like this?

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_0735wtmk_JRSXQBWNTA.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_0745wtmk_JOKDGQWKFR.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/RH9K4177.jpg)

You can also apply my question to Dave Palumbo.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: io856 on February 29, 2012, 10:59:09 AM
well hes huge and shredded
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: mass243 on February 29, 2012, 11:00:38 AM


Genetics are everything. NO way around it.


OK, one can become big by training and drugs but no drug can change the symmetry, shape of muscles, insertions !!!
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: wes on February 29, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
George Farrah had a very good physique.......depends on which year you`re talking about.

I`ve met him and seen him many times even after he retired and his fucking arms were huge.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Parker on February 29, 2012, 11:05:33 AM
George Farrah had a very good physique.......depends on which year you`re talking about.

I`ve met him and seen him many times even after he retired and his fucking arms were huge.
Yeah, "Bullet Proof" has looked better---especially during his Kamali Bump days.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: wes on February 29, 2012, 11:09:25 AM
Yeah, "Bullet Proof" has looked better---especially during his Kamali Bump days.
Yup,and he looked great as an amateur also................very good bodybuilder IMHO.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Papper on February 29, 2012, 11:09:38 AM
your point is fine

thing is, you chose a pics of a guy who actually looks pretty good in the genetic sense.

he has low lats, not missing either bis or tris like most, a chest unlike evan and a sweep to his legs. better calfs than wolf
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Palpatine Q on February 29, 2012, 11:20:38 AM
Why this guy who has incredible knowledge about drugs,
who is rich enough to buy as many drugs as he wants,
who has easily access to the most legit drugs
and who prepares the best pros in the world and makes them much bigger and leaner, looks like this?

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_0735wtmk_JRSXQBWNTA.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_0745wtmk_JOKDGQWKFR.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/RH9K4177.jpg)

You can also apply my question to Dave Palumbo.

I'd like to apply your head into a mailbox
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: devilsmile on February 29, 2012, 11:24:41 AM
structure = genetics

getting huge and shredded at the same time = drugs

you can't carve your muscles, just make them bigger

Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on February 29, 2012, 11:40:24 AM
Genetics= Structure + Response

G = S + R
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: wes on February 29, 2012, 11:42:06 AM
G = S + R

learn it,,,
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Dr Dutch on February 29, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
G = S + R

learn it,,,
But with faster-than-light neutrino's you never know....
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: mr.turbo on February 29, 2012, 11:50:54 AM
Looks pretty good to me

(http://www.chrisandphilpresent.co.uk/blogs/spectacularoptical/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/reservoir-dogs-poster.jpg)

Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on February 29, 2012, 11:51:20 AM
Those pics are not farrahs best showing
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 29, 2012, 11:55:18 AM
The drugs/oil have turned on him
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Sam on February 29, 2012, 11:55:35 AM
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2004/orlando04p6big.jpg)
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: david94 on February 29, 2012, 11:57:02 AM
Well, he may has some good points (low lat insertion, biceps) but obviously the rest of the physique looks like a failed experience. He has no separation anywhere, horrible skin and veins, no round muscles etc...
I made this topic to qualify with the popular belief that everybody can be like Evan Centopani or Steve Kucklo and that all these great physiques with all the qualities they have are just the result of drugs like some people in the forum said.
There is no shame to admit that there are people in the world who are just more gifted than us in a certain domain even if these people are less dedicated and don't need to do much effort to have great results.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: wes on February 29, 2012, 12:00:53 PM
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg824/scaled.php?server=824&filename=39976422092191683779410.jpg&res=medium)

BIG GUNS!
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on February 29, 2012, 12:01:33 PM

There is no shame to admit that there are people in the world who are just more gifted than us in a certain domain even if these people are less dedicated and don't need to do much effort to have great results.

Those people are known as:

BASTARD LIAR FILTS !!!!
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: david94 on February 29, 2012, 12:09:36 PM
Those people are known as:

BASTARD LIAR FILTS !!!!


I don't talk about fake  naturals losers. The fact is that the difference between Jari Mentula's physique and Shawn Ray's physique is not due to the lack of dedication or legit kigtoprina or shit like that. It's due to genetic for at least 90%.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: ChevChelios on February 29, 2012, 12:16:41 PM
Of course you fucking idiots

gh15 says that given the amount of aas hgh and insulina

everyone can reach pro size

how they look aesthetically depends of genetics...

you guys seem pretty dumb to not understand that,srsly.... ::)
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: yates fan on February 29, 2012, 12:30:20 PM
at some point people will eventually understand that it all matters,genetics,drugs,proper nutrition,work ethic and intelligence,only the lazy asses think it is all drugs or genetics.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on February 29, 2012, 12:34:50 PM
I don't talk about fake  naturals losers. The fact is that the difference between Jari Mentula's physique and Shawn Ray's physique is not due to the lack of dedication or legit kigtoprina or shit like that. It's due to genetic for at least 90%.

For sure, all things being equal, shawn takes it
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on February 29, 2012, 12:37:14 PM
at some point people will eventually understand that it all matters,genetics,drugs,proper nutrition,work ethic and intelligence,only the lazy asses think it is all drugs or genetics.

ALL things being equal, training, diet, work ethic, drugs, etc

It comes down to G = S + R
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: wes on February 29, 2012, 12:38:20 PM
I don't talk about fake  naturals losers. The fact is that the difference between Jari Mentula's physique and Shawn Ray's physique is not due to the lack of dedication or legit kigtoprina or shit like that. It's due to genetic for at least 90%.
Now that is two names that shouldn`t even be mentioned in the same breath.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Sam on February 29, 2012, 12:40:42 PM
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg824/scaled.php?server=824&filename=39976422092191683779410.jpg&res=medium)

BIG GUNS!

Looks like the worsts shittist boyband  :D
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: david94 on February 29, 2012, 12:43:25 PM
Of course you fucking idiots

gh15 says that given the amount of aas hgh and insulina

everyone can reach pro size

how they look aesthetically depends of genetics...

you guys seem pretty dumb to not understand that,srsly.... ::)

I don't even talk about pro size as even small guys like Kenny Jones or Quincy Winklarr are pro.
I just prove that genetic is almost everything in bodybuilding and you can take even more drugs than Mr Olympia if you are destined to look like shit, you will still look like shit contrary to what your god said. Being pro is nothing today, some pro are as bad as Jason Genova so of course everybody can be pro if you are clever and if you suck the right cock. The real question is how many guys can be legit pros with a correct level (not like George Farrah). And this depends of your genetic although a lot of people here don't want to see this reality.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: david94 on February 29, 2012, 12:48:31 PM
at some point people will eventually understand that it all matters,genetics,drugs,proper nutrition,work ethic and intelligence,only the lazy asses think it is all drugs or genetics.

Of course with incredible work ethic and motivation you can beat guys with better genetic, than you but at some point the bests in the world are still the most gifted at the beginning.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on February 29, 2012, 12:48:46 PM
(http://www.georgefarah.net/posing7.jpg)
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: mass243 on February 29, 2012, 12:58:41 PM


Everything depends on genetics.

Some become presidents, some alcoholics

Some become sprinters, some weigh 300 lbs on their 10nth bd

Some smokes 60 years, some die of cancer just by lookin' at fried sausage

Some become millionaires, some post on GB  :-X
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on February 29, 2012, 01:01:53 PM
(http://www.georgefarah.net/posing7.jpg)

Almost looks bullet-proof there!
































Almost.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on February 29, 2012, 01:03:11 PM


Some become millionaires, some post on GB  :-X
exactly

Here there's only billionaires
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: mass243 on February 29, 2012, 01:21:09 PM
exactly

Here there's only billionaires


I'm just on my way but I promise not the be worse than the next Getbigger !!





Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 29, 2012, 01:37:28 PM

I'm just on my way but I promise not the be worse than the next Getbigger !!







The first million is always the hardest
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: SomeKindofMonster on February 29, 2012, 05:39:09 PM
I haven't read much of this but George has
said in interviews because of getting shot
either his liver or kidneys can't take large doses
so he has to compete with what his body can handle.
(Which is less than the average pro takes.)
I absolutely believe him too. If you heard him explain it,
his organs took a beating with the shooting.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Jaime on February 29, 2012, 05:59:54 PM
Genetics is Skeletal structure/muscle shape.

Drugs is size/condition.

Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: abijahmaniaco on February 29, 2012, 06:25:57 PM
looks good. he's just not a young guy anymore.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: che on February 29, 2012, 06:32:37 PM
Farah's genetics are horrible  even a  lifetime natural is bigger than him .

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378810_247971758590085_202862669767661_647582_595570379_n.jpg)
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on March 01, 2012, 12:12:25 AM
Farah's genetics are horrible  even a  lifetime natural is bigger than him .

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378810_247971758590085_202862669767661_647582_595570379_n.jpg)
are you referring to bespectacled  young african gentleman?

who would that be?
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Super Natural on March 01, 2012, 12:48:35 AM
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Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 01, 2012, 02:18:09 AM
I haven't read much of this but George has
said in interviews because of getting shot
either his liver or kidneys can't take large doses
so he has to compete with what his body can handle.
(Which is less than the average pro takes.)
I absolutely believe him too. If you heard him explain it,
his organs took a beating with the shooting.
: ))))))))))))
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: falco on March 01, 2012, 02:48:47 AM
I don't even talk about pro size as even small guys like Kenny Jones or Quincy Winklarr are pro.
I just prove that genetic is almost everything in bodybuilding and you can take even more drugs than Mr Olympia if you are destined to look like shit, you will still look like shit contrary to what your god said. Being pro is nothing today, some pro are as bad as Jason Genova so of course everybody can be pro if you are clever and if you suck the right cock. The real question is how many guys can be legit pros with a correct level (not like George Farrah). And this depends of your genetic although a lot of people here don't want to see this reality.

word.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Kwon_2 on March 01, 2012, 07:54:53 AM
Why this guy who has incredible knowledge about drugs,
who is rich enough to buy as many drugs as he wants,
who has easily access to the most legit drugs
and who prepares the best pros in the world and makes them much bigger and leaner, looks like this?

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_0735wtmk_JRSXQBWNTA.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_0745wtmk_JOKDGQWKFR.JPG)
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/RH9K4177.jpg)

You can also apply my question to Dave Palumbo.

What are you trying to say?

Bulletproof Farrah has a great physique and good genes.

And genetics is EVERYTHING; not just in bodybuilding but in all aspects of life.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: wes on March 01, 2012, 07:59:10 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417195.0;attach=459593;image)

LOL  ;D
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Papper on March 01, 2012, 03:11:36 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417195.0;attach=459593;image)

lol awesome
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Royalty on March 01, 2012, 03:18:55 PM
GH15 (Nasser) once said something interesting about Ronnie. He said "Ronnie enjoyed training heavy". I would suggest that many guys with great genetics do not even like to train... let alone train with epic weights like Ronnie.

That says something. Work ethic is underrated
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Euro-monster on March 01, 2012, 03:31:46 PM
.

Hahaha that picture is priceless.... ;D
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Borracho on March 01, 2012, 03:38:55 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417195.0;attach=459593;image)

lmao


put this one up in the bodybuilding look alike thread for archive purposes bro  ;D
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Euro-monster on March 01, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
(http://www.georgefarah.net/posing7.jpg)

Why do i always get the feeling that i just got ripped of buying a used car when i see him looking trough those eyes... ;D
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: falco on March 02, 2012, 02:58:42 AM
are you referring to bespectacled  young african gentleman?

who would that be?

I believe the distinguished young african gentleman is not natural :).
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 02, 2012, 03:04:25 AM
I haven't read much of this but George has
said in interviews because of getting shot
either his liver or kidneys can't take large doses
so he has to compete with what his body can handle.
(Which is less than the average pro takes.)
I absolutely believe him too. If you heard him explain it,
his organs took a beating with the shooting.

"August 13, 1998, three days after my birthday, I was on my way to work, there was an attempted robbery, and some kids, about fifteen years old, shot me three times with a .45 caliber gun. I was forced to go into a coma, because of several cardiac arrests. I was pronounced dead a couple of times. They forced me into a sedative coma because my heart rate would not drop; this way my heart would stop beating so fast. I was in the hospital for about 8 months. They removed my colostomy bag on January 5, 1999, and in May, I was winning the New York State championships. No one believed in me. Five months from the removal of the bag to winning the championships! The later on I won the NPC Nationals. No one thought I could do it. When I told people that in my first pro show, I would qualify for the Mr. Olympia, they laughed at me. And I just did it. When can I get respect, I just don't know?"

Some info in there might suggest he's full of shit.
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on March 02, 2012, 03:05:47 AM
I believe the distinguished young african gentleman is not natural :).

I for one, second your opinion on the natural status of the young gentleman of african descent with the vision impairment
Title: Re: If genetic is nothing in bodybuilding...
Post by: Figo on March 02, 2012, 03:14:37 AM
"August 13, 1998, three days after my birthday, I was on my way to work, there was an attempted robbery, and some kids, about fifteen years old, shot me three times with a .45 caliber gun. I was forced to go into a coma, because of several cardiac arrests. I was pronounced dead a couple of times. They forced me into a sedative coma because my heart rate would not drop; this way my heart would stop beating so fast. I was in the hospital for about 8 months. They removed my colostomy bag on January 5, 1999, and in May, I was winning the New York State championships. No one believed in me. Five months from the removal of the bag to winning the championships! The later on I won the NPC Nationals. No one thought I could do it. When I told people that in my first pro show, I would qualify for the Mr. Olympia, they laughed at me. And I just did it. When can I get respect, I just don't know?"

Some info in there might suggest he's full of shit.

Amazing! So he went from near death experience, and 8 months in hospital recovering to winning a show in 5 months.
All this on small doses cause his liver can't take it!

Imagine he could take large doses, he wouldve eclipsed ronnie



But, all bullshit aside, the guy had a great physique, seems to know his shit, and whatever the circumstances getting shot, and going into a coma, nearly dying, hospitalized for 8 months is serious shit, and yet he pursued his goals and achieved them