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Title: best stack for visible mass
Post by: goomba420 on March 03, 2012, 03:15:05 PM
I did 700mg test e for 15 weeks about 4 months ago
 Kept 15 lb but it doesn't look like I've gotten any bigger.  I want to change course,  how is 50mg test prop/ tren eod? Im 5'11 182 veins on lower abs visible
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Borracho on March 03, 2012, 04:24:55 PM
I did 700mg test e for 15 weeks about 4 months ago
Kept 15 lb but it doesn't look like I've gotten any bigger.  I want to change course,  how is 50mg test prop/ tren eod? Im 5'11 182 veins on lower abs visible

I'm sure the gain is noticeable to other people. I'm up 20 pounds and I look the same....to me. I think they call it bigorexia bro  ;D

Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: AbrahamG on March 03, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
I did 700mg test e for 15 weeks about 4 months ago
 Kept 15 lb but it doesn't look like I've gotten any bigger.  I want to change course,  how is 50mg test prop/ tren eod? Im 5'11 182 veins on lower abs visible

How did your cock hold up?
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: SmoofCat on March 03, 2012, 07:54:44 PM
Visible mass?

Sust-deca-dianabol

Gh will take it to the next level.

I gained 22 lbs in one month on this combo, and I never come off. Deca and dianabol + gh gives
Crazy size. Not lean, but big
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 04:50:10 AM
100MG TREN ED
100MG NPP ED
900MG EQ WEEK
150MG TEST PROP WEEK
20MG SUPERDROL ED
15IU GH ED

Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: SmoofCat on March 04, 2012, 07:51:35 AM
100MG TREN ED
100MG NPP ED
900MG EQ WEEK
150MG TEST PROP WEEK
20MG SUPERDROL ED
15IU GH ED




This is the way to go, lol. On this cycle you will gain 40 lbs of you have only done one real cycle , given your diet is on point (meaning you are eating a lot ).
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Overload on March 04, 2012, 09:10:16 AM
100MG TREN ED
100MG NPP ED
900MG EQ WEEK
150MG TEST PROP WEEK
20MG SUPERDROL ED
15IU GH ED

This will without a doubt cause some serious visible mass changes.

Nosleep doesn't fuck around.


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Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 01:30:33 PM
This will without a doubt cause some serious visible mass changes.

Nosleep doesn't fuck around.


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LOL I WILL DO THAT ONE, JUST ONE DAY THOUGH...LONG TIME UNTIL THAT DAY CAUSE OF THE 15IU GH ED.  :D
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: SmoofCat on March 04, 2012, 01:32:43 PM
LOL I WILL DO THAT ONE, JUST ONE DAY THOUGH...LONG TIME UNTIL THAT DAY CAUSE OF THE 15IU GH ED.  :D

What is your weight up to now sleep? On your stack you must be gaining 5 lbs a week, especially since you are freshly recovered from injury. Ur gonna be a fucking beast with that 2 year plan.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: tbombz on March 04, 2012, 01:34:10 PM
sounds to me like he isnt worried about gaining water weight but just wants to look big..  id say jump on a high dose of test.. some hgh if you can afford it.. and add in some tren if your up for it..  using all the non-aromatizing anabolics is great when you want to be cut up and dry and lean but if you just want "SIZE" then there really isnt anything better than test..
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 01:41:10 PM
sounds to me like he isnt worried about gaining water weight but just wants to look big..  id say jump on a high dose of test.. some hgh if you can afford it.. and add in some tren if your up for it..  using all the non-aromatizing anabolics is great when you want to be cut up and dry and lean but if you just want "SIZE" then there really isnt anything better than test..

NPP> TEST IN REGARDS TO SIZE.
TREN> TEST IN REGARDS TO SIZE.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 01:45:29 PM
What is your weight up to now sleep? On your stack you must be gaining 5 lbs a week, especially since you are freshly recovered from injury. Ur gonna be a fucking beast with that 2 year plan.

I WAS 200LBS LAST SUNDAY. I'LL CHECK AGAIN NEXT WEEK, BUT IM A LEGIT 5 OR SO PERCENT. VERY DRY, VERY VERY VERY VERY DRY. MY FACE HAS ITS OWN DIMENSIONS. YOU'LL SEE ME AT MY FINISHED PRODUCT, WHEN THE MAST IS BACK IN BUT 50% MORE, WHEN THE HALO IS ADDED AT 20MG, AND ANOTHER 10 WEEKS ARE GONE WITH THIS GAMEPLAN.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: tbombz on March 04, 2012, 01:53:01 PM
NPP> TEST IN REGARDS TO SIZE.
TREN> TEST IN REGARDS TO SIZE.


in my experience test performed better for me for size than npp, mg for mg.  except at extreme doses, then npp does better.. something to do with dminishing returns not kicking in as fast with npp i think.

tren, yeah..

but test great for size. pure unadulterated size. as long as ur not worried about having sucked in cheeks and tight, dry, chiseled abs.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 01:54:09 PM
in my experience test performed better for me for size than npp, mg for mg.  except at extreme doses, then npp does better.. something to do with dminishing returns not kicking in as fast with npp i think.

tren, yeah..

but test great for size. pure unadulterated size. as long as ur not worried about having sucked in cheeks and tight, dry, chiseled abs.

I CORRELATE SIZE WITH THE ACTUAL LOOK OF IT. BEING WATERY ISN'T THE SAME AS BEING JUST ROCK HARD. I DON'T SEE THE JOY IN BEING WATERY, THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO LOOKING YOUR BUILT OUT OF GRANITE.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 01:59:24 PM
Deca is superior to NPP for bulking, actually NPP sucks compared to real deca, for ME...although.some love the shit. I just know deca makes me grow better- There was actually a study showing that when choosing nandrolone for muscle growth your best off

1. Choosing the longest ester possible (deca durabolin over NPP)
2. Injecting the highest concentration possible per shot
3. Injecting into the gluteal muscle
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: tbombz on March 04, 2012, 02:00:35 PM
I CORRELATE SIZE WITH THE ACTUAL LOOK OF IT. BEING WATERY ISN'T THE SAME AS BEING JUST ROCK HARD. I DON'T SEE THE JOY IN BEING WATERY, THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO LOOKING YOUR BUILT OUT OF GRANITE.
meh, were coming from very different places. i want my body to look as beastly as possible, while i think your looking for as much beauty as possible.  i can definitely appreciate beauty. if you look on the G&O i am arguing that dexter should have won the arnold despite being much smaller than the top guys just cuz he is the only guy that looks great in all the poses. on a bodybuilding stage i think beauty should always win if the size is comparable.  but for me personally, in my everyday life, i just want to be a big , nasty, hairy, scary lookin mother fucker.  :)
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 02:02:57 PM
meh, were coming from very different places. i want my body to look as beastly as possible, while i think your looking for as much beauty as possible.  i can definitely appreciate beauty. if you look on the G&O i am arguing that dexter should have won the arnold despite being much smaller than the top guys just cuz he is the only guy that looks great in all the poses. on a bodybuilding stage i think beauty should always win if the size is comparable.  but for me personally, in my everyday life, i just want to be a big , nasty, hairy, scary lookin mother fucker.  :)

THEN DO WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR GOALS. PROVIDED IT MAKES YOU HAPPY.

THATS WHAT WE DO THIS FOR, TO MAKE OURSELVES HAPPY.

Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: tbombz on March 04, 2012, 02:05:40 PM
yupppppppp
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 02:07:54 PM
YUP. I LOVE LEAN FACE, AND VEINY ABS. OF COURSE LIBIDO MUST BE A+ TOO. AND WITH THIS STACK IT CERTAINLY IS LIKE THAT!


 :D
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 02:08:42 PM
Some guys like looking "beautiful" year round. Chiseled abs, sunken face tan and all. For me it seems misrable way to live. I'd rather bulk 9 months out of the year, get bloated, make impressive sizes and really enjoy some food and see what kind of weight I can move. It's also healthier, then having to run tren and halo all the time lol. Then come summertime diet down, tan a bit. I will say this though, I don't think anyone's face looks good at 5% bf unless you have a very small female like nose, which most men don't.... 8-10% is a good spot for the face IMO. Of course having a bloated face sucks...  tbombz I feel your pain :D
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Borracho on March 04, 2012, 02:10:50 PM
I WAS 200LBS LAST SUNDAY. I'LL CHECK AGAIN NEXT WEEK, BUT IM A LEGIT 5 OR SO PERCENT. VERY DRY, VERY VERY VERY VERY DRY. MY FACE HAS ITS OWN DIMENSIONS. YOU'LL SEE ME AT MY FINISHED PRODUCT, WHEN THE MAST IS BACK IN BUT 50% MORE, WHEN THE HALO IS ADDED AT 20MG, AND ANOTHER 10 WEEKS ARE GONE WITH THIS GAMEPLAN.

MY GOD MAN....HOW TALL ARE YOU?
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Swlabr on March 04, 2012, 02:11:38 PM
Some guys like looking "beautiful" year round. Chiseled abs, sunken face tan and all. For me it seems misrable way to live. I'd rather bulk 9 months out of the year, get bloated, make impressive sizes and really enjoy some food and see what kind of weight I can move. It's also healthier, then having to run tren and halo all the time lol. Then come summertime diet down, tan a bit. I will say this though, I don't think anyone's face looks good at 5% bf unless you have a very small female like nose, which most men don't.... 8-10% is a good spot for the face IMO. Of course having a bloated face sucks...  tbombz I feel your pain :D

Man, I get stronger the leaner I become, it's strange.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 02:13:21 PM
I think it's the tren bro :D  honestly  I have yet to try  tren yet, believe it or not.... but from what I have read Tren is the only compound that will allow you to gain muscle in a caloric deficit.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 02:14:03 PM
MY GOD MAN....HOW TALL ARE YOU?

ABOUT 5'10-5'11. 10 WEEKS ADDED 17LBS AND DROPPED 2-4% BF.

AND YES FLINST AND SWLAB. IT'S THE TREN THAT MAKES YOU STRONGER, YET LEANER. IM EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING. PRIMO, TOO, BUT AT A LESSER LEVEL. ANAVAR WILL ALSO, AND HALO. AND EVEN MASTERON, LOL. BUT TREN IS THE KING AT IT.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Borracho on March 04, 2012, 02:16:10 PM
ABOUT 5'10-5'11. 10 WEEKS ADDED 17LBS AND DROPPED 2-4% BF.

AND YES FLINST AND SWLAB. IT'S THE TREN THAT MAKES YOU STRONGER, YET LEANER. IM EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING. PRIMO, TOO, BUT AT A LESSER LEVEL. ANAVAR WILL ALSO, AND HALO. AND EVEN MASTERON, LOL. BUT TREN IS THE KING AT IT.

That's impressive.


















I hate you!
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: tbombz on March 04, 2012, 02:17:19 PM
sounds like we have about the same amount of muscle mass no sleep... except ive got an extra 50lbs of fat on top of it  ;D  maybe one day we will see each other a pro stage  :)
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Swlabr on March 04, 2012, 02:18:10 PM
nosleep is one of the best guys on here, hands down. Very helpful and his stats are truly impressive.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 02:18:38 PM
weight is very, very deceiving....Nosleep do you have a big bone structure? stocky naturally heavy on the scale guy?  200 5% is fucking huge dude, Jesus christ what the fuck are you running son?  I would be rocking 19 inch arms at those numbers :o If I dieted down to 5% I doubt I would be 195 even,  I met makaveli25 today in person for the first time  he can tell you  what I look like in person lol... I'm a fairly thick dude:D    
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 02:21:53 PM
sounds like we have about the same amount of muscle mass no sleep... except ive got an extra 50lbs of fat on top of it  ;D  maybe one day we will see each other a pro stage  :)

that's bullshit, he could have more mass than you or you could have more mass than him for all you know.  You can't take two guys who are 5'10 at 250 6% and think they will look the same. Bone structure, frame, head size, etc can make a huge difference on the scale. If I competed at 220 I would be a fucking pro, cause I have no skeleton. You on the other hand would probably need to weight 250 or so.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Borracho on March 04, 2012, 02:25:54 PM
that's bullshit, he could have more mass than you or you could have more mass than him for all you know.  You can't take two guys who are 5'10 at 250 6% and think they will look the same. Bone structure, frame, head size, etc can make a huge difference on the scale. If I competed at 220 I would be a fucking pro, cause I have no skeleton. You on the other hand would probably need to weight 250 or so.

I agree with you in that weight means fuck all. I'm all for giving tbombo shit but he did say he had 50 pounds of fat on nosleep bro...I think we can let this one slide.  ;D
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 02:28:26 PM
I agree with you in that weight means fuck all. I'm all for giving tbombo shit but he did say he had 50 pounds of fat on nosleep bro...I think we can let this one slide.  ;D

honestly I have no idea what tbombz looks like brother. His head is too big to judge, if I was in california I would love to meet the guy in person and if he is as big as he says he is I will be the first to shut everyone up. I think he is telling the truth personally, some guys just don't photo well. He probably is a huge fucken guy in real life, IMO
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 02:29:52 PM
nosleep is one of the best guys on here, hands down. Very helpful and his stats are truly impressive.

 I met makaveli25 the getbigger in person today, he is a big dude as well.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Borracho on March 04, 2012, 02:37:34 PM
honestly I have no idea what tbombz looks like brother. His head is too big to judge, if I was in california I would love to meet the guy in person and if he is as big as he says he is I will be the first to shut everyone up. I think he is telling the truth personally, some guys just don't photo well. He probably is a huge fucken guy in real life, IMO

You're onto something. It really is hard to judge someone by pictures imo. We see pics from pros on here and they look great but irl we'd probably be blown away. Having said that, many of us think that tbombo is a little delusional when it comes to his physique. Most of us have bigorexia and are never big enough and lean enough but something tells me he's the other way. I'm sure he's made some great progress and probably looks better than me but I think most of us are never satisfied but for some reason he seems to be  :-\


edit: I've been drinking today so this may or may not make any sense  :P
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 02:49:47 PM
You're onto something. It really is hard to judge someone by pictures imo. We see pics from pros on here and they look great but irl we'd probably be blown away. Having said that, many of us think that tbombo is a little delusional when it comes to his physique. Most of us have bigorexia and are never big enough and lean enough but something tells me he's the other way. I'm sure he's made some great progress and probably looks better than me but I think most of us are never satisfied but for some reason he seems to be  :-\


edit: I've been drinking today so this may or may not make any sense  :P


 taylor is just highly immature like that. You can see by the way he gets offended when someone tells him their bigger than him lol the dude gets all upset and goes "still bigger than you" :D    but he is a cool cat and I would like to meet him eventually, despite being a little bit "out there":D
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Borracho on March 04, 2012, 02:53:18 PM
taylor is just highly immature like that. You can see by the way he gets offended when someone tells him their bigger than him lol the dude gets all upset and goes "still bigger than you" :D    but he is a cool cat and I would like to meet him eventually, despite being a little bit "out there":D

yeah... I'm sure we getbiggers would get along better than we would with normal regular people.   ;D

We talk shit sometimes but irl I think we'd all be down  :D
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: makaveli25 on March 04, 2012, 03:13:00 PM
nosleep is one of the best guys on here, hands down. Very helpful and his stats are truly impressive.

Plus one I love reading the guys posts. This board has really come together with some good people.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: makaveli25 on March 04, 2012, 03:14:47 PM
weight is very, very deceiving....Nosleep do you have a big bone structure? stocky naturally heavy on the scale guy?  200 5% is fucking huge dude, Jesus christ what the fuck are you running son?  I would be rocking 19 inch arms at those numbers :o If I dieted down to 5% I doubt I would be 195 even,  I met makaveli25 today in person for the first time  he can tell you  what I look like in person lol... I'm a fairly thick dude:D    

Flinstones is the biggest fucken 19 year old I've ever seen in my life and I mean that. Very very big thick dude! He could easily pass for mid 20's. A lot bigger than me and I'm 28 years old. Very impressed with flin. Real nice guy to.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Swlabr on March 04, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
Ever since gh15 the number of big 19 - 20 years olds has increased to the nth degree. ;D I get asked all the time how old I am in the gym and when I tell them, jaws drop. Love it. ;D
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: makaveli25 on March 04, 2012, 03:32:14 PM
Ever since gh15 the number of big 19 - 20 years olds has increased to the nth degree. ;D I get asked all the time how old I am in the gym and when I tell them, jaws drop. Love it. ;D

That's when your natural gh is the highest and your still kind of going through changes. It's prob the best time to hit it hard and get the most results. Like I said when I saw flin I couldn't beleive he was only 19 years old.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: FAST LANE on March 04, 2012, 03:54:52 PM
Flinstones is the biggest fucken 19 year old I've ever seen in my life and I mean that. Very very big thick dude! He could easily pass for mid 20's. A lot bigger than me and I'm 28 years old. Very impressed with flin. Real nice guy to.
That's good to hear, good job fellas!!
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Morsprincipium on March 04, 2012, 04:03:58 PM
I think it's the tren bro :D  honestly  I have yet to try  tren yet, believe it or not.... but from what I have read Tren is the only compound that will allow you to gain muscle in a caloric deficit.

Tren decreases protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin.  Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 04:29:01 PM
Tren decreases protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin.  Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus

 so I was right!

take that Tbombz :) jk
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Swlabr on March 04, 2012, 04:31:40 PM
Without tren I'd be 210 lbs at 12%, watery.

With tren I'm 210 lbs, 8%, veins everywhere. Try tren already, flinstones, I think you'll love it.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: BOW on March 04, 2012, 04:37:28 PM
You're onto something. It really is hard to judge someone by pictures imo. We see pics from pros on here and they look great but irl we'd probably be blown away. Having said that, many of us think that tbombo is a little delusional when it comes to his physique. Most of us have bigorexia and are never big enough and lean enough but something tells me he's the other way. I'm sure he's made some great progress and probably looks better than me but I think most of us are never satisfied but for some reason he seems to be  :-\


edit: I've been drinking today so this may or may not make any sense  :P

pros are smaller looking in real life than in pictures. Likewise most people are going to appear smaller than when u see their pics. Its kinda disappointing.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 04:37:48 PM
Tren decreases protein breakdown and excretion by a huge margin.  Essentially turning your caloric deficit into a caloric surplus

what are your thoughts on tren use in the offseason? Some gurus say it's Counterproductive, others say blast it at certain times, what's truth?
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Borracho on March 04, 2012, 04:44:05 PM
pros are smaller looking in real life than in pictures. Likewise most people are going to appear smaller than when u see their pics. Its kinda disappointing.

I look smaller in pics  :-\
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Overload on March 04, 2012, 05:50:48 PM
pros are smaller looking in real life than in pictures. Likewise most people are going to appear smaller than when u see their pics. Its kinda disappointing.

This is true.

The few Pros i've met were not as large as i thought they would be, but they were all very short. The only tall Pro bodybuilder i have met was Ronnie, but i only got within about 20 feet of him. He was massive in person. Branch Warren looks tiny when you put him in with a group of people, he's just very small in structure.

One of the biggest guys i've ever trained with was 240 and about 6% BF, we took a few pics leading up to a show and he looked 190. I always look terrible in pictures, for bodybuilding you really need perfect lighting to showcase your body correctly.


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Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 05:55:52 PM
except the freaks...I was talking to one guy when I was in Venice and he told me he saw Kevin  levrone at his biggest... I forgot one year exactly, and to quote "dude was unlike anything I  had ever seen, and I've seen them all"
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: Overload on March 04, 2012, 05:57:44 PM
except the freaks...I was talking to one guy when I was in Venice and he told me he saw Kevin  levrone at his biggest... I forgot one year exactly, and to quote "dude was unlike anything I  had ever seen, and I've seen them all"

Craig Titus had the biggest arms i think i've ever seen.

Kevin had that freak look to him for sure.


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Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: SmoofCat on March 04, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
Some guys like looking "beautiful" year round. Chiseled abs, sunken face tan and all. For me it seems misrable way to live. I'd rather bulk 9 months out of the year, get bloated, make impressive sizes and really enjoy some food and see what kind of weight I can move. It's also healthier, then having to run tren and halo all the time lol. Then come summertime diet down, tan a bit. I will say this though, I don't think anyone's face looks good at 5% bf unless you have a very small female like nose, which most men don't.... 8-10% is a good spot for the face IMO. Of course having a bloated face sucks...  tbombz I feel your pain :D

disagree. 8-10% is somewhere i never want to be again. 5% feels incredible, looks incredible. it is the sweet spot.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: nosleep on March 04, 2012, 06:40:09 PM
I GOT TINY BONES. FEMALE FACE STRUCTURE. SMALL NOSE, HI CHEEK BONES. SMALL HEAD TOO. WEAR 7-7 1/8 FITTED.

IM ON 450 TREN, 600 EQ, 660 PRIMO, 100MG VAR ED.

DROP PRIMO IN 2WKS. ADD MAST AGAIN AT 450, UP TREN TO 600. 1 WK LATER ADD HALO AT 20MG ED.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 07:45:27 PM
I GOT TINY BONES. FEMALE FACE STRUCTURE. SMALL NOSE, HI CHEEK BONES. SMALL HEAD TOO. WEAR 7-7 1/8 FITTED.

IM ON 450 TREN, 600 EQ, 660 PRIMO, 100MG VAR ED.

DROP PRIMO IN 2WKS. ADD MAST AGAIN AT 450, UP TREN TO 600. 1 WK LATER ADD HALO AT 20MG ED.

so  your a "pretty boy" :D :D :-* :P ;)
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 07:53:54 PM
disagree. 8-10% is somewhere i never want to be again. 5% feels incredible, looks incredible. it is the sweet spot.

 Insulin sensitivity is at it's peak in the tissues right around 12% in men, so  if one is trying to gain as much muscle mass as possible I think 10-13% is a very good bf to grow at. Looking good is another story...all comes down to your goals. Do you want to look beautiful or gain as much muscle as you can? I know your a very big dude, but I guarantee you were not 5% when you built your way to 230 over the years.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: flinstones1 on March 04, 2012, 07:57:09 PM
Craig Titus had the biggest arms i think i've ever seen.

Kevin had that freak look to him for sure.


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dude's arms were nuts. They saved his physique, literally....chest and delts were terrible
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on March 06, 2012, 06:29:22 AM
No Sleep is definitely a guy who has the right idea and a proper plan in place. I'll be following your progress. Being lean and hard like granite is the way to go
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: SmoofCat on March 06, 2012, 08:39:23 AM
I GOT TINY BONES. FEMALE FACE STRUCTURE. SMALL NOSE, HI CHEEK BONES. SMALL HEAD TOO. WEAR 7-7 1/8 FITTED.

IM ON 450 TREN, 600 EQ, 660 PRIMO, 100MG VAR ED.

DROP PRIMO IN 2WKS. ADD MAST AGAIN AT 450, UP TREN TO 600. 1 WK LATER ADD HALO AT 20MG ED.

I am small boned and long limbed, but I have a gigantic head (7 3/4) and I have giant feet and hands for my height of a hair under 6 foot . Doctors said I would be 6'4" and I am fully convinced that sporadic hormone use in my teens stopped my growth at roughly 6 foot (I have actually measured as tall as 6 foot and 3/4 of an inch in the morning, but my evening height is 5'11" and 3/4 of an inch. Everybody thinks I am 6'2"-6'3" though and people constantly guess my weight at 250 when I am 220-225. I just have a highly deceptive
Frame with a 6'7" wingspan. Basically I have the worst frame ever for body building , but I am a highly motivated individual and it took me a decade to get to 220 lean and I'm not letting the fact that I would be better fit as a wide receiver or shooting guard stop me from enjoying the sport I love. My feelings are that if absurdly long limbed guys like serge nubret and Arnold could build physiques like that by 25-27 (24 arnold really had an incredible physique actually), without insulin and gh, then I can try to reach their physiques as best as I can instead of trying to look like Ron or McGrath (modern tall long limbed bodybuilders).  And note I said TRY. And don't chastise me for having goals of Having Arnold or serges physique. I will 99 percent not achieve this. But I am truly of the belief these days that with hard work and a real understanding (and then application ) on anabolics and minimal gh can give you a physique comparable to the physiques in Arnold's era. Unfortunately, you must have the genetics to believe in my concept.

For example, I am on :
10 iu daily gh blue tops
700 mg primo
700 mg weekly tren ace (recently dropped it from 1400 mg due to blood pressure.)
350 mg weekly sustanon

And I may add 350 mg Npp in for my joints next week.

This is by no means a light cycle, but with hard training and a dedication to eating a lot of food that will make you grow (not all dirty!), rest, a narcotic and (for the most part) alcohol free
Life style and one more element you guys don't want to hear, a fucking
Incredible, monstrous and totally cut physique will emerge.

The other element that nobody wants to hear? Cardio.

Arnold and Franco did 30 minutes minimum daily. Flex does TWO AND A HALF HOURS evey day. The assertion that we at get big can and will not do
Cardio because we are on gh is something I urge everyone to closely examine.

End rant.
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: FAST LANE on March 06, 2012, 10:47:11 AM
No Sleep is definitely a guy who has the right idea and a proper plan in place. I'll be following your progress. Being lean and hard like granite is the way to go
x2
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: supertrucker212 on March 06, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
100MG TREN ED
100MG NPP ED
900MG EQ WEEK
150MG TEST PROP WEEK
20MG SUPERDROL ED
15IU GH ED



Would this be worth running if I can't afford the GH right now, believe me if I could, it wouldn't be an issue, I'd have it in there. I'm also chomping at the bit to try some suspension. My goal right now is to add some size. 5'4, 190, bf around 12%. Thanks
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: NeilGM on March 10, 2012, 12:52:19 PM
How long is Tren A good to run for?

My weekly stack at the moment is

525mg Tren Ace
600mg Bold
325mg Test Eth

I just added in NPP at 350mg

I got 60 days of NPP, when this drops out im not sure what to do I still got another, can't afford growth and to be honest but want to keep as hard looking as possible and try and cycle the Tren in and out for health reasons. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: best stack for visible mass
Post by: goomba420 on March 10, 2012, 06:49:23 PM
ill try 100mg test p eod
100mg tren a eod
100mg npp eod
600mg eq /wk?

is that alright?