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Running 750mg/day of crystal DNP...nothing at all like what everyone demonizes to be. Day 5, should be at peak concentration
A bit hot, nothing intolerable. Craving carbs, no insomnia, drinking alot of water to fend off dehydration.
Already seeing results I would have seen from a 1-2 month cut. It's magic
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750mgs LOL
You'll soon have bigger problems than fat loss... and then, one day, suddenly, no problem at all ;)
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It's crystal, 750mgs is not that bad.
Only running for 10 days
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ya im sure u know...everythings fine for now dumbass
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I dont understand why being there are plenty other options people trust dealers of DNP
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You guys run grams of gear, and even gear that is not meant for humans (tren, eq) and say that it's unsafe to run DNP ??? ???
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drop it all and now !
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DNP is fine. Don't be an idiot and it's relatively harmless. Done it 4 or 5 cycles now, running it right niw. 600 mg is tolerable, 800 is overdoing it for me. I can live with 800, but can't look presentable at work then. Nobody likes a sweaty guy asking them if they want fries with that. ;)
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Novel neuroprotective, neuritogenic and anti-amyloidogenic properties of 2,4-dinitrophenol: the gentle face of Janus.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=16754295
This landmark paper obviously made an effort to change the widespread misperception that DNP is only dangerous and toxic It points to protective effects in the brain, possible treatments for neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson's, and even extension of lifespan.
The mitochondrial uncoupler 2,4-dinitrophenol attenuates tissue damage and improves mitochondrial homeostasis following transient focal cerebral ischemia.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum
This is one of many studies showing that DNP is protective in models where blood flow is interrupted (stroke, heart attack) and then restored. Usually there is a massive release of oxidative stress when this happens. DNP greatly limits this.
Regulation of human male germ cell death by modulators of ATP production.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum
This study shows that DNP prevents germ cell apoptosis (death). This is the same thing testosterone does. When apoptosis is accelerated, you get all kinds of fertility problems. Looks like DNP may actually help here, depending on the mechanism behind the irregular apoptosis.
Energy requirement for degradation of tumor-associated protein p53.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum
p53 is a transcription factor recognized as having anti-cancer effects in cells. There's only good news here with regards to DNP, as DNP has been shown to increase p53 expression. This has been shown both directly in this study and also via AMPK, which DNP clearly activates. AMPK is likely the mechanism through which DNP exerts this anti-cancer effect.
The mitochondrial uncoupling agent 2,4-dinitrophenol improves mitochondrial function, attenuates oxidative damage, and increases white matter sparing in the contused spinal cord.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q..._uids=15672630
This paper showed that pretreatment with DNP significantly reduced the damage from a bruising injury to the spinal cord. Again, this has to do with a reduction in oxidative stress.
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Yeah I'm sweating more than usual on it, but like I said nothing intolerable. 750mg is a bit much for a first run but I decided I may as well. Thanks mors ^^
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Yeah I'm sweating more than usual on it, but like I said nothing intolerable. 750mg is a bit much for a first run but I decided I may as well. Thanks mors ^^
How do you split up your doses? I've moved to taking 400 after getting up, and 200 at lunch. That, and no carbs after 7 pm allow for better sleep for me.
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I actually have no insomnia off of it. I take 500 in the morning and 250 at night. 7am and 7pm. I sweat quite a bit even with all the windows open and a fan on me but, I have no problems sleeping
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750mgs LOL
You'll soon have bigger problems than fat loss... and then, one day, suddenly, no problem at all ;)
ya im sure u know...everythings fine for now dumbass
two completely idiotic posts
DNP is fine. Don't be an idiot and it's relatively harmless. Done it 4 or 5 cycles now, running it right niw. 600 mg is tolerable, 800 is overdoing it for me. I can live with 800, but can't look presentable at work then. Nobody likes a sweaty guy asking them if they want fries with that. ;)
good post. DNP is completely harmless unless you are an idiot about it...pretty much the same thing as everything else. All you idiots use clen like candy but think DNP isn't safe. You guys think your own opinions formulated by retards over the last decade on the internet carry more value than those of us that used it ourselves?
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what happened to jfree92??
is he still alive?
dude ran some dnp and ended up in the hospital :(
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what happened to jfree92??
is he still alive?
dude ran some dnp and ended up in the hospital :(
I got a PM from him a few weeks ago.
He's doing better.
8)
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I'm expecting Conciliator (aka King of DNP knowledge) to pop up in this thread any second now ....
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why would he pop in this thread, he doesn't post here and he hasn't posted much in the past year
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I should have used the "tongue in cheek" emoticon.
From what I remember, he always seemed to pop up in any thread that had misinformation about dnp
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biggest fear for me would be how accurate the dose for this stuff is ! i mean how do i know the shady kunt didnt put 1 gram of it instead of 200 mg ?
i would run it no probs, but nothing over 400 mg, 200 preferably.
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what happened to jfree92??
is he still alive?
dude ran some dnp and ended up in the hospital :(
Right here bro. I agree with the OP. DNP isn't bad if you run it properly. Just don't be a homo like me and be stupid with it - stupid doses for stupid lengths of time.
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biggest fear for me would be how accurate the dose for this stuff is ! i mean how do i know the shady kunt didnt put 1 gram of it instead of 200 mg ?
i would run it no probs, but nothing over 400 mg, 200 preferably.
No source would give you 800mg of free DNP. If anything he'd put 200mg instead of 1 gram.
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it's all about how you can tolerate..
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I might just do a 8-12 weeker at 200mg.
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No source would give you 800mg of free DNP. If anything he'd put 200mg instead of 1 gram.
lol, but how can you be sure that it is 200 mg in that cap ? these are shady fucks bro
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lol, but how can you be sure that it is 200 mg in that cap ? these are shady fucks bro
Get a scale
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Get a scale
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you're right bro, but the thought of accidnelty taking in like 1 gram of it is scary lol, but you're right im just being a pussy
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I should have used the "tongue in cheek" emoticon.
From what I remember, he always seemed to pop up in any thread that had misinformation about dnp
oh yeah, haha. i remember, back in 09 or 2010, any time someone said something negative about DNP there he was, posting in the most condescending and verbally demeaning manner possible.
with regard to the thread: 750mg isn't a lot of dnp. some people can tolerate a lot and the more cycles of it you've run, the more and more you can use and tolerate, i don't know why. my body just seems to piss the stuff out nearly instantly, i get hot a few minute after taking a capsule but then i'm fine hours later. it sucks because it's relatively expensive to buy in capsule form.
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I'm expecting Conciliator (aka King of DNP knowledge) to pop up in this thread any second now ....
I wish. I researched his posts extensively. He knows more about DNP than any human being alive on the planet right now. He also completely owns anyone that tries to challenge him.
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lol at you guys believing you are getting real DNP. Do you know how hard that shit is to handle? Open a bottle of the DNP powder and within seconds things around you start turning yellow. I don't see why any lab would want to deal with that shit, then try to crystalize it and capsule it.
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lol at you guys believing you are getting real DNP. Do you know how hard that shit is to handle? Open a bottle of the DNP powder and within seconds things around you start turning yellow. I don't see why any lab would want to deal with that shit, then try to crystalize it and capsule it.
Who sells fake DNP? I've yet to run into a bunk source of DNP. The two sources I used, the pill did cause horrible yellow stains and I lost a fuck ton of fat in very little time
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lol at you guys believing you are getting real DNP. Do you know how hard that shit is to handle? Open a bottle of the DNP powder and within seconds things around you start turning yellow. I don't see why any lab would want to deal with that shit, then try to crystalize it and capsule it.
naw, i have some, it's not too bad because it comes wetted so it's more like a wet mulch type of substance and it doesn't get all over everything until you dry it. stains can come out too with strong cleaning agents provided they don't set into real porous surfaces.
and crystalizing it is just adding baking soda to water then mixing dnp, put it into a container with a desiccant and leave it in the sun/heat lamp. done.
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lol at you guys believing you are getting real DNP. Do you know how hard that shit is to handle? Open a bottle of the DNP powder and within seconds things around you start turning yellow. I don't see why any lab would want to deal with that shit, then try to crystalize it and capsule it.
Cmon. When Dan Duchaine first brought this to our attention in 96 or so. I walked into the local chem supply house and purchased DNP raw, no problem. (Mind you, at the time said chem house was also selling ethyl ether, bromobenzene, sodium cyanide etc to local pcp/meth cooks no problem either. Shop ended up taking a fall. But that's a whole other story..)
Anyhow, this stuff did not turn everything yellow by merely opening the container. Sure, if something touched it then yes, you're correct.
And back then, per DD, we didn't crystalize it, we just added the filler and capped it up.
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Cmon. When Dan Duchaine first brought this to our attention in 96 or so. I walked into the local chem supply house and purchased DNP raw, no problem. (Mind you, at the time said chem house was also selling ethyl ether, bromobenzene, sodium cyanide etc to local pcp/meth cooks no problem either. Shop ended up taking a fall. But that's a whole other story..)
Anyhow, this stuff did not turn everything yellow by merely opening the container. Sure, if something touched it then yes, you're correct.
And back then, per DD, we didn't crystalize it, we just added the filler and capped it up.
Fuck I miss those days when you could walk into a store and buy that shit.
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I don't see why you can't order it. It's not on any watched list.
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but when i mentioned using it i catch shit for it ::)
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how damn fat are you guys that run dnp? i have no personal experienc with it, but sounds like bad shit. maybe im wrong, but with all the bad stuff you hear,,,,fuck can't you get lean with diet,cardio, and tren? DNP the only thing i wont fuck with,,,slin, AAS, thats candy,,clen they are tic tacs to me, but DNP,,,fuck that shit,,,,im scared and im not too big and tough to admit it.
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how damn fat are you guys that run dnp? i have no personal experienc with it, but sounds like bad shit. maybe im wrong, but with all the bad stuff you hear,,,,fuck can't you get lean with diet,cardio, and tren? DNP the only thing i wont fuck with,,,slin, AAS, thats candy,,clen they are tic tacs to me, but DNP,,,fuck that shit,,,,im scared and im not too big and tough to admit it.
Why take Clen (that is very harsh on your heart) or diet naturally if you can take DNP and achieve the same results within 2 weeks instead of 3 months+ ?
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Geez, and I thought crackheads were bad ::)
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how damn fat are you guys that run dnp? i have no personal experienc with it, but sounds like bad shit. maybe im wrong, but with all the bad stuff you hear,,,,fuck can't you get lean with diet,cardio, and tren? DNP the only thing i wont fuck with,,,slin, AAS, thats candy,,clen they are tic tacs to me, but DNP,,,fuck that shit,,,,im scared and im not too big and tough to admit it.
got down to about 10% bf with just cardio, hgh and tren. could see veins in my lower abs and had V coming in. ironically i went on DNP and got fatter because i couldn't control my appetite hahah.
it really doesn't matter what BF you use it at, but it does get progressively weaker the more you use DNP.
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Running 750mg/day of crystal DNP...nothing at all like what everyone demonizes to be. Day 5, should be at peak concentration
A bit hot, nothing intolerable. Craving carbs, no insomnia, drinking alot of water to fend off dehydration.
Already seeing results I would have seen from a 1-2 month cut. It's magic
oh god, the side effects are down the road, kind of like with high blood pressure.
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how damn fat are you guys that run dnp? i have no personal experienc with it, but sounds like bad shit. maybe im wrong, but with all the bad stuff you hear,,,,fuck can't you get lean with diet,cardio, and tren? DNP the only thing i wont fuck with,,,slin, AAS, thats candy,,clen they are tic tacs to me, but DNP,,,fuck that shit,,,,im scared and im not too big and tough to admit it.
Clen is even more dangerous IMO....causes heart necrosis along with the fact that it's in mcgs....if a lab were to accidently drop a clump of it into the solution you could be in big trouble.
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This debate always ends up with no one changing their mind.
Everyone has to decide for themselves whether or not DNP is dangerous.
I'm in the DNP = safe, clen = bad camp.
I have ran DNP at least once a year, sometimes 3x a year.
I am not a fan of necrosis of heart tissue. Whenever I have posted
that on other forums, I get jumped on saying the study was done on rats,
so it doesn't compared to humans. Idiots.
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Can't really trust animal research, especially rats
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how damn fat are you guys that run dnp? i have no personal experienc with it, but sounds like bad shit. maybe im wrong, but with all the bad stuff you hear,,,,fuck can't you get lean with diet,cardio, and tren? DNP the only thing i wont fuck with,,,slin, AAS, thats candy,,clen they are tic tacs to me, but DNP,,,fuck that shit,,,,im scared and im not too big and tough to admit it.
Pretty fat myself. :)
But seriously: 18 months ago I was 315 @ 5'11", and I'm not an offseason pro, so I was fat as all hell. bf% of 50 or close to it. Cut down to 210 without any drugs whatsoever. No roids, no clen, no stimulants at all. Just diet and exercise. For me DNP is a reward to myself for putting in a shitload of hard work the past 18 months. Currently 190 and still dropping. Not interested in seeing abs (PLer), but don't want to die at 55 from being fat.
And no, DNP won't kill me before then. As several others have posted as well: I tried clen and T3 years ago. Never again. Compared to that, DNP is almost benign. Still not something to mess around with, but also not the certain death some (who never tried it) make it out to be.
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Good job of rewarding yourself by putting that in your body ::) Seriously you people who this too yourselves have some kind of psychological imbalance.
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This debate always ends up with no one changing their mind.
Everyone has to decide for themselves whether or not DNP is dangerous.
I'm in the DNP = safe, clen = bad camp.
I have ran DNP at least once a year, sometimes 3x a year.
I am not a fan of necrosis of heart tissue. Whenever I have posted
that on other forums, I get jumped on saying the study was done on rats,
so it doesn't compared to humans. Idiots.
x2
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Good job of rewarding yourself by putting that in your body ::) Seriously you people who this too yourselves have some kind of psychological imbalance.
You're right. I should have done it the old-fashioned way: diet, exercise, test prop, tren, T3.
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On a more practical note: I can't find any info on this, but has anyone else noticed a decreased effectiveness when consuming dairy, especially milk (yogurt etc. not so much)?
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On a more practical note: I can't find any info on this, but has anyone else noticed a decreased effectiveness when consuming dairy, especially milk (yogurt etc. not so much)?
Shouldn't be consuming dairy at all my man, shit's terrible for you....
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Shouldn't be consuming dairy at all my man, shit's terrible for you....
I seem to produce enough lactase, so no problem there. Pure northern european breeding stock. ;)
But I have noticed far less sides AND far less effectiveness when drinking milk. As in: half as effective, so no minor difference.
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Shouldn't be consuming dairy at all my man, shit's terrible for you....
Ya it'll be the dairy that kills em ::)
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This debate always ends up with no one changing their mind.
Everyone has to decide for themselves whether or not DNP is dangerous.
I'm in the DNP = safe, clen = bad camp.
I have ran DNP at least once a year, sometimes 3x a year.
I am not a fan of necrosis of heart tissue. Whenever I have posted
that on other forums, I get jumped on saying the study was done on rats,
so it doesn't compared to humans. Idiots.
When you can't convince a heroin addict living under a bridge after his wife left him and took the kids and lost his fortune and now gives head for $10 to fuel his habit that drugs are bad for you how can you convince these guys?
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I dont take dnp but have looked into I agree with the others in low doses it may be one of your safer easier weight loss options imo.
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Ya it'll be the dairy that kills em ::)
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Be cautious with DNP. It is not a joke. We often feel invincible because we know we cam
Shoot massive doses of hormones and we won't die and we just get stronger.
My friend, a up and coming bodybuilder who had just gotten a relatively lucratively supplement contract along with a modeling deal from wilhelmina died from mixing a tiny dose
Of clen with DNP.
He was also on 200 mg tren ace daily, but the 40 mcg clen sure didn't kill him. Be careful. I will never run this shit. You can get down to 5 percent on clen t3 w the right hormones and
Then sub 4 w diuretic. if done right this is the time
Tested way.
Remember , marathon not sprint
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^ I'm really sorry for your friend but IMHO Clen/T3 stack is a lot more dangerous than a low dose DNP cycle.
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^ I'm really sorry for your friend but IMHO Clen/T3 stack is a lot more dangerous than a low dose DNP cycle.
I really disagree actually, just from what I have seen and I have seen a lot .
Both are dangerous. However 12.5 mcg t3 40 mcg clen in the Morning is the perfect addition to your coffee.
DNP is a weird drug and there is a reason that of all the pros, top amateurs, fitness models I know on a true friendship level, guys who are totally open w me about their hormo e use, because they know i have zero agendas, have never taken Npp.
But 12.5/40 t3 clen? Year round, pre contest jack that up a few notches .
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^ I'm really sorry for your friend but IMHO Clen/T3 stack is a lot more dangerous than a low dose DNP cycle.
quoted for truth. Funny how all the bashers have never tried it but those of us who have, are totally fine
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none of this is healthy, people shouldn't fall into a false sense of confidence just because they don't feel anything wrong with themselves and believe that shooting up 30 times their natural hormonal levels is going to be conducive to a healthy body internally.
the diuretics, and fat loss drugs, are definitely the most dangerous though, and clen being at the top of the list for long term negative health effects.
it's all subjective though. i would bet money both zyzz and his brother ran the same amounts of clen, zyzz died, but his brother is still trucking, and abusing diuretics and clen like there's no tomorrow. every time someone takes a step, they're playing russian roulette with your life - shit, people die falling in their house all the time hahah
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none of this is healthy, people shouldn't fall into a false sense of confidence just because they don't feel anything wrong with themselves and believe that shooting up 30 times their natural hormonal levels is going to be conducive to a healthy body internally.
the diuretics, and fat loss drugs, are definitely the most dangerous though, and clen being at the top of the list for long term negative health effects.
it's all subjective though. i would bet money both zyzz and his brother ran the same amounts of clen, zyzz died, but his brother is still trucking, and abusing diuretics and clen like there's no tomorrow. every time someone takes a step, they're playing russian roulette with your life - shit, people die falling in their house all the time hahah
^ This
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sure is confirmation bias in here today
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An update to my earlier DNP & dairy comment:
My wife and I have gone through our food and weight logs, and I've experimented the last couple of days, and our conclusion is, that high-lactose dairy (so not cheese) negates a lot of the effects of DNP. We assume it has something to do with the lactose bloat, but not why.
For me, even one dose of full-fat yogurt (150 g) stopped sides within 15 minutes, only to return with a vengeance 6-7 hours later.
One mechanism could be, that lactose bloat causes liquids normally sweated out on DNP to be retained in the cells. If this is the case, then that could be very dangerous, as your temperature could keep rising without a correspondent increase in sweating. Which is what many people assess dosages by.
Just to play it safe, try cutting out all lactose while on DNP. And use whey isolate. Can't hurt, and might keep you safe(r).
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An update to my earlier DNP & dairy comment:
My wife and I have gone through our food and weight logs, and I've experimented the last couple of days, and our conclusion is, that high-lactose dairy (so not cheese) negates a lot of the effects of DNP. We assume it has something to do with the lactose bloat, but not why.
For me, even one dose of full-fat yogurt (150 g) stopped sides within 15 minutes, only to return with a vengeance 6-7 hours later.
One mechanism could be, that lactose bloat causes liquids normally sweated out on DNP to be retained in the cells. If this is the case, then that could be very dangerous, as your temperature could keep rising without a correspondent increase in sweating. Which is what many people assess dosages by.
Just to play it safe, try cutting out all lactose while on DNP. And use whey isolate. Can't hurt, and might keep you safe(r).
Broscience at it's finest ::)
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I'm buying DNP in a few weeks. Can't wait :D I'll post my results!
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Broscience at it's finest ::)
go fuck yourself. This is personal experience from two people who happen to track every variable, every day.
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I'm buying DNP in a few weeks. Can't wait :D I'll post my results!
choose your cemetery place before :D
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go fuck yourself. This is personal experience from two people who happen to track every variable, every day.
It's also the stupidest fucking thing Ive ever heard and you are full of dogshit. Your retarded advice on dnp can get someone killed so please go fuck yourself and have a nice day.
Have I mentioned how stupid your advice is?
Hope this helps
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Pretty sad to see people that are so lazy and pathetic, they would rather take a highly toxic chemical..used originally for explosive manufacturing, than follow a decent diet and do cardio. We already had that clueless kid on here that wound up in the hospital in excruciating agony from his DNP related neuropathy. I hate to say this, but I am kind of looking forward to reading the next self inflicted horror story on here. If people want to be that mindless to take crap like this, then the least they can do is provide me some morbid entertainment with their ridiculous tales of woe. Please.. by all means..take as much DNP as you can... More fun for me ! :D
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Pretty sad to see people that are so lazy and pathetic, they would rather take a highly toxic chemical..used originally for explosive manufacturing, than follow a decent diet and do cardio. We already had that clueless kid on here that wound up in the hospital in excruciating agony from his DNP related neuropathy. I hate to say this, but I am kind of looking forward to reading the next self inflicted horror story on here. If people want to be that mindless to take crap like this, then the least they can do is provide me some morbid entertainment with their ridiculous tales of woe. Please.. by all means..take as much DNP as you can... More fun for me ! :D
Don't worry..according to the mensa members here you can use dairy to stop the sides ::)
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choose your cemetery place before :D
Haha nah I'll be fine. I will be doing a low dose cycle (200mg/day). Might try 400mg for one day to see how it feels but that's it.
Pretty sad to see people that are so lazy and pathetic, they would rather take a highly toxic chemical..used originally for explosive manufacturing, than follow a decent diet and do cardio. We already had that clueless kid on here that wound up in the hospital in excruciating agony from his DNP related neuropathy. I hate to say this, but I am kind of looking forward to reading the next self inflicted horror story on here. If people want to be that mindless to take crap like this, then the least they can do is provide me some morbid entertainment with their ridiculous tales of woe. Please.. by all means..take as much DNP as you can... More fun for me ! :D
You are so ignorant I'm not gonna waste my time showing you proof of how DNp can be used "safely". Oh btw I know a guy that did 1,2g/day of DNP and didn't have any bad shit happens to him.
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Don't worry..according to the mensa members here you can use dairy to stop the sides ::)
Yes, it's quite true... in fact you can swallow an entire bottle of cyanide..and as long as you eat a block of Mozarella cheese with it, you'll be fine. Also, a top bodybuilder told me that Engine Coolant ( It has to be the orange colored one) is a great fat burner. He said you have to only drink 1 cup a day or the sides are rough. Now watch these guys on here go drink 1/2 gallon a day...
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Your retarded advice on dnp can get someone killed so please go fuck yourself and have a nice day.
Even if I don't agree with his advice, can you tell me why someone not drinking lactose while taking DNP could end up dead? I understand if he said water but lactose...?
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whats everyones thoughts on running dnp while on aas?
i have about 5 weeks left on test e and am thinking about using some to lean out before starting my test prop/tren ace cycle...id most likely run it at 250mg for 2-3 weeks maybe?
seems this could be a good way to drop some fat and make the tren work that much better when i start :D
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whats everyones thoughts on running dnp while on aas?
i have about 5 weeks left on test e and am thinking about using some to lean out before starting my test prop/tren ace cycle...id most likely run it at 250mg for 2-3 weeks maybe?
seems this could be a good way to drop some fat and make the tren work that much better when i start :D
you run tren and eat sensible you would drop a 1% or so ever week or 2. I would run dnp maybe low dose a 2-3 weeks before then get a rebound effect from it.
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Pretty sad to see people that are so lazy and pathetic, they would rather take a highly toxic chemical..used originally for explosive manufacturing, than follow a decent diet and do cardio. We already had that clueless kid on here that wound up in the hospital in excruciating agony from his DNP related neuropathy. I hate to say this, but I am kind of looking forward to reading the next self inflicted horror story on here. If people want to be that mindless to take crap like this, then the least they can do is provide me some morbid entertainment with their ridiculous tales of woe. Please.. by all means..take as much DNP as you can... More fun for me ! :D
How is DNP toxic? Please cite your claims
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you run tren and eat sensible you would drop a 1% or so ever week or 2. I would run dnp maybe low dose a 2-3 weeks before then get a rebound effect from it.
yea that was the plan, the caps are 250mg so i was just gonna do 1 ed for 2-3 weeks
im currently on test e so i figured run the dnp with that, then when prop/ace arrive start it up...so i should space the dnp cycle and prop/ace a couple weeks apart you're saying?
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How is DNP toxic? Please cite your claims
Dinitrophenol (DNP) is an industrial chemical used in the manufacture of explosives, herbicides, dyes, and wood preservatives. When ingested, DNP uncouples mitochondrial oxidative phosphorylaation, interfering with the cell’s ability to store energy as ATP. Instead, the energy is dissipated as heat causing severe hyperthermia that in case reports has proven very difficult if not impossible to control. In addition, ATP depletion causes release of calcium from the sarcoplasmic reticulum in muscles. The resulting uncontrolled muscular contraction produces even more heat Patients with DNP toxicity often die of hyperthermia, multi-organ failure, and cardiovascular collapse. Presenting signs and symptoms of acute DNP toxicity include headache, anxiety, nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, hyperthermia, diaphoresis, coma, and death.
In the 1930s, DNP was often used as a diet aid after a clinical pharmacologist found that — by increasing the metabolic rate — controlled doses of the chemical could cause an average loss of 1.5-2.0 pounds per week. One laboratory brought out a product called Formula 281, that contained DNP 1.5 grains. The promotional brochure gushed: “Here, at last, is a reducing remedy that will bring you a figure men admire and women envy, without danger to your health or change in your regular mode of living”. Enthusiasm for this product waned when it became apparent that the gap between the “therapeutic” and toxic doses was extremely narrow, and customers taking even the recommended dose started to go blind from “dinitrophenol cataracts“.
A recent case report made it clear that DNP toxicity from diet products is not a thing of the past. This case series has a different angle, reporting a series of 16 cases of occupationally-related DNP poisoning among workers and their relatives. There were two deaths. The authors note that the skin of some patients were dyed yellow and/or black.
However, certain Bro's on internet bodybuilding sites have claimed the substance is "Perfectly safe".
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www.thepoisonreview.com is not a citation lol
and you still failed to explain how DNP is toxic
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yea that was the plan, the caps are 250mg so i was just gonna do 1 ed for 2-3 weeks
im currently on test e so i figured run the dnp with that, then when prop/ace arrive start it up...so i should space the dnp cycle and prop/ace a couple weeks apart you're saying?
that is they way 250mg raise calories by 25% on average you may be lower or higher run that and lower your caloires a hair like 10-20% then you have a 30-40% calories drop at 3000 base calories you will lose 3lbs a week or more if its working good i would ride it as long as i could . Then start then tren and eat close to base calories and just let the drugs work tren should drop you 1 % bf every week or 2 if not over eating imo. Once you get under 15% you will start looking good 12% good for pool 10% great for pool. You want to get sub 10 idk though lol girls will start wanting you a lot even around 11-12 %. You will get a good rebound when coming of 3-5 weeks of dnp gain muscle much quicker. You ride the dnp for 4-5 weeks you may get near 10% if on test to stave off muscle lose. let us know. If you do then you can eat what you want on the test/tren cycle your on the right track. YOu should be able to train still on 250mg I would try to keep as much stength as possible the less muscle you lose the more fat you lose.
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that is they way 250mg raise calories by 25% on average you may be lower or higher run that and lower your caloires a hair like 10-20% then you have a 30-40% calories drop at 3000 base calories you will lose 3lbs a week or more if its working good i would ride it as long as i could . Then start then tren and eat close to base calories and just let the drugs work tren should drop you 1 % bf every week or 2 if not over eating imo. Once you get under 15% you will start looking good 12% good for pool 10% great for pool. You want to get sub 10 idk though lol girls will start wanting you a lot even around 11-12 %. You will get a good rebound when coming of 3-5 weeks of dnp gain muscle much quicker. You ride the dnp for 4-5 weeks you may get near 10% if on test to stave off muscle lose. let us know. If you do then you can eat what you want on the test/tren cycle your on the right track. YOu should be able to train still on 250mg I would try to keep as much stength as possible the less muscle you lose the more fat you lose.
yea updates to come brotha. this just seems to make sense lol, run dnp while im on test e...then when test p/tren a arrive start them up.... figure i have 5 weeks left of test so i could run dnp for say half of that then boom tren time ;D
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yea updates to come brotha. this just seems to make sense lol, run dnp while im on test e...then when test p/tren a arrive start them up.... figure i have 5 weeks left of test so i could run dnp for say half of that then boom tren time ;D
You disgust me.
Yea, I know its just the internet and I should relax.
You're everything that's wrong with peeps today.
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You disgust me.
Yea, I know its just the internet and I should relax.
You're everything that's wrong with peeps today.
D.O.U.C.H.E. what is the matter?
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D.O.U.C.H.E. what is the matter?
Hhahhaha.
To be fair, the rest of the lazy fatties that are using a TOXIC CHEMICAL to lose weight are ALSO-
STUPID.
While taking a shit, I was thinking about why you sicken me dumfresh. It's not because you're stupid (many nitwits in this world) Its not because you post pics of you're pasty, underdeveloped build while wearing leopard print panties, its because YOU ARE LAZY! LAZY!
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You disgust me.
Yea, I know its just the internet and I should relax.
You're everything that's wrong with peeps today.
:D
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Hhahhaha.
To be fair, the rest of the lazy fatties that are using a TOXIC CHEMICAL to lose weight are ALSO-
STUPID.
haven't used it yet...BTW can you explain how it is dangerous in low doses???
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Hhahhaha.
To be fair, the rest of the lazy fatties that are using a TOXIC CHEMICAL to lose weight are ALSO-
STUPID.
You're stupid. I'm not gonna waste 2/3 months cutting when I can do it in less than a month with a "toxic chemical" (lolol yeah I'll probably die from 250mg of DNP a day).
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You're stupid. I'm not gonna waste 2/3 months cutting when I can do it in less than a month with a "toxic chemical" (lolol yeah I'll probably die from 250mg of DNP a day).
Oh fuck.
Another lazy idiot.
READ THE RESEARCH. IF YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND THEN ASK SOMEONE THAT HAS AN I.Q. OVER 63 TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU!
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haven't used it yet...BTW can you explain how it is dangerous in low doses???
EXPLAIN?
Many have tried dumfresh, it's useless and YOU'RE useless.
Have you considered Badmittion?
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You're stupid. I'm not gonna waste 2/3 months cutting when I can do it in less than a month with a "toxic chemical" (lolol yeah I'll probably die from 250mg of DNP a day).
EIENSTIEN. If it takes longer than a month or two to cut THEN YOU ARE TO FAT TO BEGIN WITH.
NOBODY SAID YOU WILL DIE, YOU GENIUS.
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Oh fuck.
Another lazy idiot.
READ THE RESEARCH. IF YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND THEN ASK SOMEONE THAT HAS AN I.Q. OVER 63 TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU!
Oh I did read plenty of researches about DNP. There's also many people that used it without any troubles. I even know a guy who did 1.2g a day and nothing happened to him and it's been more than a year now.
Perharps YOU should research more and look up Concilliator's posts since he's one of the most knowledgeable person in the world regarding DNP. I hope you already know about him, otherwise you really didn't research shit man. :-X
Btw, I find it quite ironic that you talk about "lazy idiot" when you're hanging out on an AAS board.
EIENSTIEN. If it takes longer than a month or two to cut THEN YOU ARE TO FAT TO BEGIN WITH.
NOBODY SAID YOU WILL DIE, YOU GENIUS.
Woah your logic is SO good! I guess people should stay fat if they are too fat to begin with, right?
Ahh, you're the genius after all. ;)
PS: I know I won't die, thanks for reminding me!
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I even know a guy who did 1.2g a day and nothing Oh I did read plenty of researches about DNP. There's also many people that used it without any troubles. happened to him and it's been more than a year now.Perharps YOU should research more and look up Concilliator's posts since he's one of the most knowledgeable person in the world regarding DNP. I hope you already know about him, otherwise you really didn't research shit man. :-X
Btw, I find it quite ironic that you talk about "lazy idiot" when you're hanging out on an AAS board.
Woah your logic is SO good! I guess people should stay fat if they are too fat to begin with, right? Ahh, you're the genius after all. ;)
PS: I know I won't die, thanks for reminding me!
Where do I start???
NO, They shouldn't "STAY FAT" they SHOULD EAT LESS AND DO SOME CARDIO. DNP should ONLY BE USED BY ELITE BODYBUILDERS BEFORE A CONTEST, NOT LAZY, LOW I.Q, ILLOGICAL FUCKTARDS.
And where are YOU?
So since it hasn't "killed him" its still a good idea to take poison??? LOL!!!
Enjoy your dumbface and tight mma t-shirts.
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you guys fight like brainless schmoes ::)
it's anybodys choice what they do with their own body,if they take DNP they support the consequences,so it's fair enough.
You got to decide for yourself if the benefits > the risks.If so,jump on DNP and do not look back .
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you guys fight like brainless schmoes ::)
it's anybodys choice what they do with their own body,if they take DNP they support the consequences,so it's fair enough.
You got to decide for yourself if the benefits > the risks.If so,jump on DNP and do not look back .
Agreed. If people want to take poison, they should be able to..and I have the right to check them on that stupid behavior.
Brainless? No. ;D
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Where do I start???
NO, They shouldn't "STAY FAT" they SHOULD EAT LESS AND DO SOME CARDIO. DNP should ONLY BE USED BY ELITE BODYBUILDERS BEFORE A CONTEST, NOT LAZY, LOW I.Q, ILLOGICAL FUCKTARDS.
And where are YOU?
So since it hasn't "killed him" its still a good idea to take poison??? LOL!!!
Enjoy your dumbface and tight mma t-shirts.
:o Too much non-sense I'll stop our internet fight here!
And you're definitely right ChevChelios!
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DOUCHE..youre something else, you obviously do not know a thing regarding dnp
shredded thank you for putting some sense into this conversation lol
chev....totally agree!