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Title: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2012, 06:45:07 AM
who is the better bodybuilder?

Nasser has only one Arnold victory, and it was a gift, because the top guys bowed out that year. Branch has two, and against stiff competition.

and Branch isn't done yet....he can acquire even more trophies.

Their competitive histories match up pretty good, so I ask Getbig...who is better?  ;D
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: makaveli25 on March 05, 2012, 06:50:25 AM
In before 4 meltdowns 3 suicides and Nasser thong in a pear tree.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: BiGHer on March 05, 2012, 06:51:41 AM
LOL this thread is gonna stir up some outrage...

Nasser
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: mossel on March 05, 2012, 06:51:59 AM
... who the hell is nasser?
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: wes on March 05, 2012, 06:52:13 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Wiggs on March 05, 2012, 06:52:33 AM
Ultimate Troll thread. Look for your house to be burned down within hours.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: makaveli25 on March 05, 2012, 06:57:22 AM
(http://cache.sharenxs.com/images/wz/cabc/ba/a-/af/aj/disgonbegoodgif.gif)
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Parker on March 05, 2012, 06:58:23 AM
Nasser would have easily won over Branch. Nasser is by far the better bber, by a large, large margin.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Tito24 on March 05, 2012, 06:59:15 AM
nasser by a country smile, nasser actually had arms and was much bigger than that little troll
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2012, 07:02:29 AM
Nasser would have easily won over Branch. Nasser is by far the better bber, by a large, large margin.

Why do you say that? they both have crappy backs, and are bald and ugly. Nasser wore glasses too, further handicapping him.

They are more similar than you might think..."mass monsters" who have terrible lines, and lack any real quality muscle
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Wiggs on March 05, 2012, 07:03:19 AM
Nasser is a 5'11 version of Branch.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: BayGBM on March 05, 2012, 07:03:55 AM
Both are tier 1 but Nasser is better.  There are a couple guys better than Nasser . . . but Branch is not one of them.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: dr.chimps on March 05, 2012, 07:20:05 AM
I'll bet Branch could (ghost) write a book in less than 7 years.

/and counting.   
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: beverast on March 05, 2012, 07:21:39 AM
Branch Mr. O 2012.

Book it.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: wes on March 05, 2012, 07:28:43 AM
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091114235939/uncyclopedia/images/9/9f/Worm_on_hook.gif)
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: _bruce_ on March 05, 2012, 07:41:14 AM
:D


Nasser seems upset.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: wes on March 05, 2012, 07:41:54 AM
Nasser seems upset.
:D
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: GraniteCityDon on March 05, 2012, 07:53:29 AM
Not in any way a Nasser fan but he would destroy Branch in his prime. Realistically Branch isnt a top 10 guy if the actual criteria was adhered to but it is what it is.......
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: monstermunch on March 05, 2012, 07:59:42 AM
People are actually posting serious replies? ;D
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 05, 2012, 08:01:14 AM
lol, branch comes up to Nasser's lower pecs.  Even Lee Priest destroys Branch.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: TooMuchMuscle4U on March 05, 2012, 08:08:24 AM
Are you fucking kidding?

BRANCH DESTROYS NASSHOLE IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Royalty on March 05, 2012, 08:33:58 AM
who is the better bodybuilder?

Nasser has only one Arnold victory, and it was a gift, because the top guys bowed out that year. Branch has two, and against stiff competition.

and Branch isn't done yet....he can acquire even more trophies.

Their competitive histories match up pretty good, so I ask Getbig...who is better?  ;D

Nasser beat Kevin Levrone, Chris Cormier, Jay Cutler, Dexter Jackson, and Gunter at the 1999 ASC. That is good competition if you ask me.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Raymondo on March 05, 2012, 08:40:52 AM
Apples and oranges.
Branch isn't in the same league as Nasser.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Meso_z on March 05, 2012, 08:49:19 AM
Nasser>Branch
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: JasonH on March 05, 2012, 08:56:11 AM
Branch is better - Nasser obviously has him on height and bodyweight but all things considered Branch is the better, more complete bodybuilder.

Branch's forearms let him down, but Nasser's whole back lets him down. People tend to forget this when they forever post frontal pics of Nasser.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 10:22:35 AM
Why do you say that? they both have crappy backs, and are bald and ugly. Nasser wore glasses too, further handicapping him.

They are more similar than you might think..."mass monsters" who have terrible lines, and lack any real quality muscle

nasser has very good lines.. may be better than any other mass monster!!..
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Nails on March 05, 2012, 10:25:33 AM
Even off-season .... nasser looks better


(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nasser-mexico.jpg)

Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Nomad on March 05, 2012, 10:48:21 AM
Branch can win as many Arnolds as he wants but in the end he is still a 5'5 overgrown turd.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Dipadidu on March 05, 2012, 10:52:07 AM
Even off-season .... nasser looks better


(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nasser-mexico.jpg)



Nasser looks like an unemployed bum who is selling used thongs on his page...
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 12:16:51 PM
Branch is better - Nasser obviously has him on height and bodyweight but all things considered Branch is the better, more complete bodybuilder.

Branch's forearms let him down, but Nasser's whole back lets him down. People tend to forget this when they forever post frontal pics of Nasser.

shape wise nasser's back is better.. branch's is more conditioned but doesnt look good..
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 12:22:30 PM
http://www.flexonline.com/news/olympia-clash-titans-warren-vs-el-sonbaty
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Royalty on March 05, 2012, 12:22:48 PM
Nasser is so much better than Branch that its amazing that there is even a debate. Compare Nasser to: Coleman, Yates, Cutler, Levrone, Wheeler, Ray, Ruhl, or Gunter. Ok that I understand. But dont compare Nasser with Branch. Branch is gross.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: TrueGrit on March 05, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
Branch couldn't hold a thong to Nasser.

Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 05, 2012, 12:36:34 PM
 ;D

http://www.flexonline.com/news/olympia-clash-titans-warren-vs-el-sonbaty
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: mesmorph78 on March 05, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
nasser is a million times better
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: oliveiraugo on March 05, 2012, 12:46:16 PM
nice man with glasses wins.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: aesthetics on March 05, 2012, 12:52:14 PM
nasser truly had a shitty physique. there was nothign aesthetic about it, waist was too big
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on March 05, 2012, 01:23:56 PM
nasser truly had a shitty physique. there was nothign aesthetic about it, waist was too big

Thank god that branch is such a wonderful creature to look at.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Leatherneck on March 05, 2012, 03:29:12 PM
Nasser in a landslide.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Jaime on March 05, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
As an amateur Branch looked better, as a pro Nasser did.

Branch looked real good years ago, he looks like a fucking nightmare from a traveling circus as a pro.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: DeltsaForce on March 05, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
Even off-season .... nasser looks better


(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nasser-mexico.jpg)



guy still looks fucking huge; wicked width and deadly density.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: jaejonna on March 05, 2012, 03:54:08 PM
Nassar by a country mile....
Title: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 06:56:25 PM
 8)
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: V Man on March 05, 2012, 06:57:35 PM
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!


That pic is begging to be photoshopped.
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Maddy on March 05, 2012, 06:59:59 PM


holy calves
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 07:15:00 PM

holy calves

and as you see his calves had this "bump" on them naturally before he even turned pro.. as some ppl would later accuse him of filling them with oil because of this!!.. by bump i mean this curved part in the middle of his calf,.. i am not sure what is the accurate word to use here!!..
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 07:18:02 PM
fuck the mod. who merged nasser threads :-X.. this pic. of nasser (one of the most important bb in the golden era of bbing) is really rare.. it's very stupid to merge it with other thread and leave many pointless threads on the board :-X :-\
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: 225for70 on March 05, 2012, 07:19:16 PM
Even off-season .... nasser looks better


(http://www.hugenasser.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/nasser-mexico.jpg)



LMAO...That is the funniest picture i've ever seen in my life.. ;D
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2012, 07:25:34 PM
and as you see his calves had this "bump" on them naturally before he even turned pro.. as some ppl would later accuse him of filling them with oil because of this!!.. by bump i mean this curved part in the middle of his calf,.. i am not sure what is the accurate word to use here!!..

We are...it's "obsessed"  :)
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 07:32:03 PM
We are...it's "obsessed"  :)

yes saying the guy who started the thread :-X

man forget it,.. i know it hurt your feelings when nasser refused to meet you after you had begged a23 to take you with him but you cant keep hating the man forever :P 
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: wes on March 05, 2012, 07:40:16 PM
Hook,line,and sinker !!!
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2012, 07:44:21 PM
yes saying the guy who started the thread :-X

man forget it,.. i know it hurt your feelings when nasser refused to meet you after you had begged a23 to take you with him but you cant keep hating the man forever :P 

LOLOL...it's a joke chubby....relax. The whole thread is a joke, most of us caught that  ;)
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
Hook,line,and sinker !!!

 ;D
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 07:55:09 PM
LOLOL...it's a joke chubby....relax. The whole thread is a joke, most of us caught that  ;)

i know the thread is a joke but nasser refusing to meet you was not hahahahha....
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2012, 07:59:28 PM
i know the thread is a joke but nasser refusing to meet you was not hahahahha....

Really, and when did this happen  ::)
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 08:09:17 PM
Really, and when did this happen  ::)

about 2 years ago (when you were "natural") :D
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2012, 08:27:11 PM
about 2 years ago (when you were "natural") :D

You mean when I was owning Nasser and challenging him to post a picture of his arms ? because mine are superior?  even more so now  :D
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: the_swami on March 05, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
8)

Sherief

this is a great pic!
when was this pic of Nasser taken?
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: the_swami on March 05, 2012, 08:33:25 PM
Branch Vs Nasser??!!

come on now puhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

Nasser by a million country miles.
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Nirvana on March 05, 2012, 08:37:54 PM
Obviously Brantch because whoever weighs less has better lines  ::)

the heavier one always looks worse.  there is no reason for nasser to be considered one of the greatest ever, it's not like he went in the 280s and still looked aesthetic with good proportions  ::)
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 09:46:21 PM
Sherief

this is a great pic!
when was this pic of Nasser taken?

in 1989 my friend as per the title of the original thread before a stupid mod. merged with the nasser vs. branch thread!!..
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 05, 2012, 09:51:45 PM
I am not a big Nasser fan but Nasser by a mile.....I think Nasser would destroy all the competitors out there today..I think all the hate on Nasser stems from his over active fanboy club who worship everything he does..if you look at his physique on the merits, its actually really good..especially compared to the guys today
Title: Re: A Very Rare Pic. of Nasser from 1989!!..
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 05, 2012, 10:52:35 PM
You mean when I was owning Nasser and challenging him to post a picture of his arms ? because mine are superior?  even more so now  :D

looks like ugly veiny boobs :D
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 05, 2012, 11:02:26 PM
How's the UG lab business Groink?
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 05, 2012, 11:12:29 PM
How's the UG lab business Groink?

still in shock Sev ?  :D
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Figo on March 05, 2012, 11:53:23 PM
... who the hell is nasser?

Yugoslav / egyptian bber from germany

Has an arabic name and an egyptian father, so he is the greatest arab bber ever according to his fans

Almost won an olympia once, according to legend...
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Figo on March 05, 2012, 11:57:28 PM
Both are tier 1 but Nasser is better.  There are a couple guys better than Nasser . . . but Branch is not one of them.
looking better in daisy dukes is not enough of a reason
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Figo on March 06, 2012, 12:00:13 AM
fuck the mod. who merged nasser threads :-X.. this pic. of nasser (one of the most important bb in the golden era of bbing) is really rare.. it's very stupid to merge it with other thread and leave many pointless threads on the board :-X :-\

Agreed

Great pic thx
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Figo on March 06, 2012, 12:04:46 AM

Their competitive histories match up pretty good, so I ask Getbig...who is better?  ;D

This is a great question

There should be no doubt the upcoming Mr Olympia 2012 is the clear, clear winner

And that's before we compare backs
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: 20inch calves on March 06, 2012, 12:44:18 AM
Why do you say that? they both have crappy backs, and are bald and ugly. Nasser wore glasses too, further handicapping him.

They are more similar than you might think..."mass monsters" who have terrible lines, and lack any real quality muscle

no,no,no,no nasser had a relatively small waist and pretty go lines. he also had great abs
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Hulkotron on March 06, 2012, 12:42:18 PM
The funniest thing about Groink is that whenever he posts, wave after wave of tender vaginas come out of the woodwork trying to own him and he doesn't even know who they are half the time.
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 06, 2012, 01:23:08 PM
Yugoslav / egyptian bber from germany

Has an arabic name and an egyptian father, so he is the greatest arab bber ever according to his fans

Almost won an olympia once, according to legend...


This is hands down the greatest Arab bodybuilder
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Parker on March 06, 2012, 01:44:05 PM
Why do you say that? they both have crappy backs, and are bald and ugly. Nasser wore glasses too, further handicapping him.

They are more similar than you might think..."mass monsters" who have terrible lines, and lack any real quality muscle
Nasser at his 99 win had a better back, more "flow" to his physique. Better lats, arms, leg detail, hams, chest, he was better put together. I may give him shit, but he shits all over Branch.
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: BodyMachine on March 06, 2012, 02:10:56 PM
Nasser looked conditioned here circa 1998:

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=103123.0;attach=459103;image)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/146/images/Nasser_El_Sonbaty_232.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Nirvana on March 06, 2012, 03:08:28 PM
no no no, the one who weighs less always looks better, just ask shaun rhea

therefore branch looks better than nasser   ::)
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: honest on March 06, 2012, 08:44:38 PM
Judging criteria has changed since nasser competed, Nasser has a far better structure, but would struggle to beat Branch under todays criteria, Branch definately gets more grainy, but hes a blob, Nasser was top shelf till he turned around. 
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: johnny1 on March 06, 2012, 09:09:30 PM
Judging criteria has changed since nasser competed, Nasser has a far better structure, but would struggle to beat Branch under todays criteria, Branch definately gets more grainy, but hes a blob, Nasser was top shelf till he turned around. 
Exactly, Nasser from the front has a Much better Structure and a Better flow to it no doubts there, however again....Turn around too the back.....Nasser had Great hamstrings however from the back his problems with Branch would start from the Top.....on down Branchs Tie-ins.....especially the hip/glute/ham tie ins would look out of place next to Branch, Branch is also very THICK and DENCE in the side shots his side chest is as Dence as ANYONE onstage in any era (key word Dence), Todays Criteria IMO would NOT be in Nasser's favor in the 1990s.....could be another story.
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: powerbar on March 06, 2012, 09:21:40 PM
Dense?
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: avxo on March 06, 2012, 11:17:29 PM
Nasser had a very obvious asymmetry in the extraocular muscles. Kind of hard for the judges to ignore.

And now for the obligatory picture:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mC1TEdZ4gks/S3sLvYBBO0I/AAAAAAAAHEU/hjpOHmPV6y8/s400/Nasser+El+Sonbaty+At+Dentist+02+-+www.Musclebase.blogspot.com.jpg)

Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: Figo on March 07, 2012, 12:32:30 AM
This is hands down the greatest Arab bodybuilder

No doubt
Title: Re: Is Branch Warren better than Nasser ???!!!????
Post by: hench on March 07, 2012, 06:54:54 AM
is it? Branch looks smooth and watery
shape wise nasser's back is better.. branch's is more conditioned but doesnt look good..
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: bigbobs on March 07, 2012, 09:22:12 AM
Exactly, Nasser from the front has a Much better Structure and a Better flow to it no doubts there, however again....Turn around too the back.....Nasser had Great hamstrings however from the back his problems with Branch would start from the Top.....on down Branchs Tie-ins.....especially the hip/glute/ham tie ins would look out of place next to Branch, Branch is also very THICK and DENCE in the side shots his side chest is as Dence as ANYONE onstage in any era (key word Dence), Todays Criteria IMO would NOT be in Nasser's favor in the 1990s.....could be another story.

Actually TODAY's criteria would be a HUGE advantage to Nasser whether it was applied during the late 90's or whether Nasser was competing today, because one area Nasser would get nailed by the judges was the "posing" round - he wasn't considered a great poser and would lose lots of points in that area.  Nowdays posing does not count towards your final score, and if such was the case during Nasser's era he would have placed higher because the posing round always held him back, even though with this extra round against him he still placed very well in many shows.

Besides, Branch's back is not great either and his biceps are non-existent in the rear double biceps pose.
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Nirvana on March 07, 2012, 11:02:42 AM
branch looks like shit. "dencity" "tie ins" "work ethic"  do not justify being 5'7 looking like shit
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 07, 2012, 11:54:54 AM
Actually TODAY's criteria would be a HUGE advantage to Nasser whether it was applied during the late 90's or whether Nasser was competing today, because one area Nasser would get nailed by the judges was the "posing" round - he wasn't considered a great poser and would lose lots of points in that area.  Nowdays posing does not count towards your final score, and if such was the case during Nasser's era he would have placed higher because the posing round always held him back, even though with this extra round against him he still placed very well in many shows.

Besides, Branch's back is not great either and his biceps are non-existent in the rear double biceps pose.

nasser now is 3X at least uncrowned mr. olympia.. i think if the posing round was not counted in his ear he would have been now 5X at least uncrowned mr. olympia and would have won the AC 3 times instead of 1 8)
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Danjo on March 07, 2012, 12:15:02 PM
Nasser is (was) far better overall....Branch has some good condition and phenomenal mass and thickness but keep in mind he is also 5 ft-nothin..
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: honest on March 07, 2012, 02:51:26 PM
nasser now is 3X at least uncrowned mr. olympia.. i think if the posing round was not counted in his ear he would have been now 5X at least uncrowned mr. olympia and would have won the AC 3 times instead of 1 8)

You wont win nascar with three wheels and you wont win the olympia without a back. Both Heath and Cutler dont have overly strong backs in comparison to Ronnie and Dorian, but it isnt a glaring weakness, I agree with Bobs Nasser at his peak would fair better in some ways when compared to the guys of this era, his back would definatlyhave not looked as weak, but the argument continually put up that Nasser should have won an olympia is a false one, If he was competing today against lower calibre guys such as Jay and Heath and at his peak, who knows, in my opinion, the guys winning today, dont have the structure of the guys who were winning years ago but they also dont have overly obvious weak points.
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 07, 2012, 02:53:54 PM
It comes down to back comparison otherwise equal.
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: dr.chimps on March 07, 2012, 02:56:39 PM
It comes down to back comparison otherwise equal.
I think Branch just edges Nasser on forearms, too. 
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 07, 2012, 02:58:48 PM
I think Branch just edges Nasser on forearms, too. 
;D
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 07, 2012, 02:59:12 PM
I think Branch just edges Nasser on forearms, too. 
Damn I missed that we need a forearm mandatory then.
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: johnny1 on March 07, 2012, 07:54:33 PM
Actually TODAY's criteria would be a HUGE advantage to Nasser whether it was applied during the late 90's or whether Nasser was competing today, because one area Nasser would get nailed by the judges was the "posing" round - he wasn't considered a great poser and would lose lots of points in that area.  Nowdays posing does not count towards your final score, and if such was the case during Nasser's era he would have placed higher because the posing round always held him back, even though with this extra round against him he still placed very well in many shows.

Besides, Branch's back is not great either and his biceps are non-existent in the rear double biceps pose.
Well no you're missed the point, the bottom line is NOW in 2012 the guys Like Branch who are "Winning" these Larger pro shows are Extremely CONDITIONED FRONT....AND BACK structure be damned as horrible a look as Branch has had for years and years now, Branch is MORE conditioned than Nasser was from the side and Back.... Nasser gets the nod from the front.... as ive said Nasser Def has a Much better Flow to his Physiques a much better FDB, FLS, Ab/thigh, etc etc (if comparing these 2) and the posing aspect would mean very little as a Advantage to Nasser these days, the fact is Nasser from the back and side was Not as Conditioned as Branch was/is this imo would be a bigger liability these days...MORE so than when he was in his prime years in the 1990s Nasser would more than likey beat Branch in the 1990s 9 times out of ten (in his best shape that is or near it) not so now in 2012 with the CURRANT Criteria IMO.
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 08, 2012, 10:03:10 PM
another rare pic. of nasser from 1989.. he was only 23-24 years old here..
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on March 08, 2012, 10:25:39 PM
2 more..
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: bigbobs on March 09, 2012, 12:16:20 AM

Well no you're missed the point, the bottom line is NOW in 2012 the guys Like Branch who are "Winning" these Larger pro shows are Extremely CONDITIONED FRONT....AND BACK structure be damned as horrible a look as Branch has had for years and years now, Branch is MORE conditioned than Nasser was from the side and Back.... Nasser gets the nod from the front.... as ive said Nasser Def has a Much better Flow to his Physiques a much better FDB, FLS, Ab/thigh, etc etc (if comparing these 2) and the posing aspect would mean very little as a Advantage to Nasser these days, the fact is Nasser from the back and side was Not as Conditioned as Branch was/is this imo would be a bigger liability these days...MORE so than when he was in his prime years in the 1990s Nasser would more than likey beat Branch in the 1990s 9 times out of ten (in his best shape that is or near it) not so now in 2012 with the CURRANT Criteria IMO.

Ever think Branch is winning in 2012 simply because there are not physiques comparative to Nasser's onstage today?  It's not that today's judging criteria doesn't value structure anymore it's simply that today's top competitors don't have great structure. 
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: bigbobs on March 09, 2012, 12:17:24 AM
Amazing, rare pics Sherief! 

Funny how someone said earlier that as an amateur branch was better than Nasser as an amateur lol

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=417749.0;attach=460750;image)
Title: Re: Is the 2012 Branch Warren better than Nasser was?
Post by: HugeAl on March 09, 2012, 08:14:05 AM
Stupid question that is only being asked because Groink is butthurt that Nasser didn't want to meet him after he sent Alex begging texts to be allowed to attend the next meeting.

Nasser competed in the most competitive era in all of bodybuilding. There was peak Ronnie, Levrone, Kenny Wheeler, Shawn Ray et al all taking each other on. The quality of those guys would win trophies today. A past his prime Jason (prime Jason always 2nd to Ronnie)would have never won the Mr O when the field was that strong. Even then Nasser got a raw deal but was still one of the very best in the very best era.

Branch is as fortunate as Jason in that the competition is much poorer these days and being a white American is always a big advantage. Being a black American is still a bigger advantage than being a white European though.

I ask you..if Branch Warren wasn't a white Texan and instead had that very physique but was called Mohammed al-Sada and hailed from the middle east, do you honestly believe he would win the Arnold? Really?

Branch is just fortunate to be the right color, in the right country,  at the right time (no real challengers) he cannot even be compared to a great like Nasser while keeping a straight face.