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I won't say much, but Julianne Moore I thought was great as Sarah Palin, playing it straight
without going to Tina Fey parody.
And she's just as hot!
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you got 277 posts. fuck my apology and go fuck yourself.
post some videos or links asshole. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Bewwwbiessss!!!!!
Agreed, Im tired of the gimmicks, go fuck yourself until your prove your not a gimmick or at least a gimmick that will be around a while
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woody harelson looked hilarious as steve schmidt. i dont have hbo so didn't see the full version. plus my bitch ass was sleeping at 10:20 last night.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/03/09/top-10-lies-game-change
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/03/09/top-10-lies-game-change
I watched it last night and thought it was pretty good
Regarding the ten so called lies mentioned by the writer (Stacy Drake) for professional liar , former speed bump and current worm food, Andy Breitbart
#10 - not an lie but an opinion. The producers say it was "balanced" and Breitbart doesn't agree. That's not a lie but a difference of opinion. I thought it was balanced so I guess that means Breitbart is a liar
#9 - Palin is egotistical, ungracious, demanding, stupid, forgetful and mentally unstable so that is not a lie either. I would add petty, vindictive, and narcissistic
#8 - Did she refuse to go onstage with Jeb Bradley. If so then how is that a lie
#7 - if Palin didn't want to flee Alaska then why did she quit as governor and spend so much time outside of Alaska after helping kill McCains chance to be POTUS
#6 - McCain may not have said "find me a woman" but then Schmidt admitted that never happened. On the other hand it was clear that one of the reason she was chosen is because she was a woman so that "point of dramatization" was authentic
#5 Troopergate - Palin was not cleared of all wrongdoing as she claimed in real life and as portrayed in the movie. In a bipartisan 12-0 vote of the Legislative Counsel she was found to have abused her power and violated the state's executive branch ethics act
#4 - splitting hairs at this point. While Palin may support Adult stem cell resera ch the majority of the research at that time and I believe still to this day is done with embryonic stem cells and Palin is against that so there is no inaccuracy of any significance.
#3 - did the McCain team adequately vet Palin. No one other than those who were involved can say for sure but everyone who watched her crash and burn during the campaign are entitled to an opinion and in my opinion it certainly seemed like they missed a few things
#2 - The movie portrays Palin as an absolute foreign and domestic policy dunce. I think the fact speak for themselves. I'm sure the Palin kneepadders think she is a genius but then again most of them have also posted contray opinions since the election. In the movie there is a scene where she appears to not know what The Fed is. If that is true it just boggles the mind. I wonder why the author didn't point that out as an inaccuracy?
#1 - I will almost agree on this one. I don't believe Palin is the PRIMARY reason that McCain lost the election. I think the primary reason he lost was how he reacted to the Financial crisis - one moment he is saying the fundamentals of the economy are strong and the next moment he is suspending his campaign. I would say the Palin was a HUGE contributing factor to why he lost but not the primary reason
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I watched it last night and thought it was pretty good
Regarding the ten so called lies mentioned by the writer (Stacy Drake) for professional liar , former speed bump and current worm food, Andy Breitbart
#10 - not an lie but an opinion. The producers say it was "balanced" and Breitbart doesn't agree. That's not a lie but a difference of opinion. I thought it was balanced so I guess that means Breitbart is a liar
#9 - Palin is egotistical, ungracious, demanding, stupid, forgetful and mentally unstable so that is not a lie either. I would add petty, vindictive, and narcissistic
I cant believe you actually wrote this one after the other without seeing the blatant hypocrisy.
LOL, one is an opinion cause you disagree with it and the other is a fact cause you agree with it.
Producers saying (Palin is egotistical, ungracious, etc) is a fact cause you agree.
BUT
Breitbart saying the producers werent balanced is just an opinion cause you disagree.
Epic.
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60% of TOTAL 2008 voters believed palin was not even qualified to be VP.
18% of the GOP voters from 2004 just stayed home.
To say she HELPED mccain is the funniest statement in history.
1/5 of repubs didn't bother, and 3/5 of the nation thought she was unprepared to be veep. Do the math.
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I cant believe you actually wrote this one after the other without seeing the blatant hypocrisy.
LOL, one is an opinion cause you disagree with it and the other is a fact cause you agree with it.
Producers saying (Palin is egotistical, ungracious, etc) is a fact cause you agree.
BUT
Breitbart saying the producers werent balanced is just an opinion cause you disagree.
Epic.
strawman has a different definition of hypocrisey...
SERIOUSLY!!!
just ask the guy to define it for you.
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I watched it. I think they were a little harsh with making her look insane. She wasn't ready to be launched into that position and that would be incredibly difficult for anyone not ready. That doesn't mean she's unstable. And McCain didn't lose because he chose Palin. McCain coming across like he couldn't wait to start more wars hurt him way worse than Palin not being ready. McCain's singing bomb bomb Iran was 100 times worse on him than a VP candidate not fully prepared.
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McCain's singing bomb bomb Iran was 100 times worse
yeah, in retrospect - what the FCK was he thinking? geez, just brainless move. immature as the day is long.
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yeah, in retrospect - what the FCK was he thinking? geez, just brainless move. immature as the day is long.
Yup, even with Palin's negatives, she did do what was intented, the base got behind the campaign. Biden even with his experience had his own set of negatives. In the climate of that moment, the worst thing McCain could have done is come across like he was jonesing for more war and that's exactly what he did. That cost him a lot of independents and Obama cashed in on it.
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I cant believe you actually wrote this one after the other without seeing the blatant hypocrisy.
LOL, one is an opinion cause you disagree with it and the other is a fact cause you agree with it.Producers saying (Palin is egotistical, ungracious, etc) is a fact cause you agree.
BUT
Breitbart saying the producers werent balanced is just an opinion cause you disagree.
Epic.
correct - which means neither one is a lie
you could even say #9 is an opinion but but there is plenty of evidence to support it as being true but let's just say it's an opinion
it seems you agree that a difference of opinion is not a lie so what is your point?
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I watched it. I think they were a little harsh with making her look insane. She wasn't ready to be launched into that position and that would be incredibly difficult for anyone not ready. That doesn't mean she's unstable. And McCain didn't lose because he chose Palin. McCain coming across like he couldn't wait to start more wars hurt him way worse than Palin not being ready. McCain's singing bomb bomb Iran was 100 times worse on him than a VP candidate not fully prepared.
If she actually acted in real life the way she did in the movie then they, in my opinion didn't "make her look insane"
that's just the way she looked
This woman was supposed to be running to be the understudy for the most powerful position the world and yet she appeared to be acting like sullen, petulent teenager giving people the silent treatement. That is not normal adult behaviour in any setting but most especially when running for VP
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If she actually acted in real life the way she did in the movie then they, in my opinion didn't "make her look insane"
that's just the way she looked
This woman was supposed to be running to be the understudy for the most powerful position the world and yet she appeared to be acting like sullen, petulent teenager giving people the silent treatement. That is not normal adult behaviour in any setting but most especially when running for VP
Yet you voted for the idealogical spawn of ayeres, wright, Webb, dohrn, and Farrakhan. Go figure.
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Yet you voted for the idealogical spawn of ayeres, wright, Webb, dohrn, and Farrakhan. Go figure.
I thought I voted for Obama
who are you talking about ?
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I thought I voted for Obama
who are you talking about ?
Obama is ayers, wright, dohrn, Webb all combined into one extremist radical politician.
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If she actually acted in real life the way she did in the movie then they, in my opinion didn't "make her look insane"
that's just the way she looked
This woman was supposed to be running to be the understudy for the most powerful position the world and yet she appeared to be acting like sullen, petulent teenager giving people the silent treatement. That is not normal adult behaviour in any setting but most especially when running for VP
"If..." YOU SAY.... you're guessing... I'm going by what we actually saw in the 08 election. The movie goes beyond the information given and portrays her as mentally unstable. That part is probably overkill.
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Obama is ayers, wright, dohrn, Webb all combined into one extremist radical politician.
of course he is
and he's a muslim, communist, marxist, trying to collapse the country
we're heard it about 10,000 times now
I can only hope that Romney decides to go with that tactic too or maybe bring up Ayers the birth cerficate again
It worked so well the last time
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of course he is
and he's a muslim, communist, marxist, trying to collapse the country
we're heard it about 10,000 times now
I can only hope that Romney decides to go with that tactic too or maybe bring up Ayers the birth cerficate again
It worked so well the last time
I hope so too. We need answers.
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"If..." YOU SAY.... you're guessing... I'm going by what we actually saw. The movie goes beyond the information given and portrays her as mentally unstable. That part is probably overkill.
you'll notice I said "if she actually acted that way in real life"
I didn't say that she did or that I had knowledge of it, etc...
no one except the people who where there know what happened
Steve Schmidt was there and said it the depiction was "spot on"
From having seen Palin act like a lunatic right up to this very day I'm going to assume he is telling the truth
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I hope so too. We need answers.
finally you and I are in agreement
we both want to see Romney spend lots of time talking about Ayers, the birth certifcate, etc..
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finally you and I are in agreement
we both want to see Romney spend lots of time talking about Ayers, the birth certifcate, etc..
I have to email his campaign some of my opp research.
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I have to email his campaign some of my opp research.
I wish you would but you know you won't
Don't you already have enough on your plate?
You were going to call O'Keefe as well so you two doofuses could team up and prove that Ayers killed Breitbart
How's that going ?
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you'll notice I said "if she actually acted that way in real life"
I didn't say that she did or that I had knowledge of it, etc...
no one except the people who where there know what happened
Steve Schmidt was there and said it the depiction was "spot on"
From having seen Palin act like a lunatic right up to this very day I'm going to assume he is telling the truth
ok, but I still think McCain did more to hurt his own campaign than Palin did. When he should have been showing he's different than Bush, he was praising Bush. When he should have been telling the people he would only go to war as a last resort, he was standing in front of crowds acting horny at the prospect of more war. That was the game changer.
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ok, but I still think McCain did more to hurt his own campaign than Palin did. When he should have been showing he's different than Bush, he was praising Bush. When he should have been telling the people he would only go to war as a last resort, he was standing in front of crowds acting horny at the prospect of more war. That was the game changer.
I agree and McCain I think he was actually polling ahead Obama at some point after Palin joined the campaign but before he had his weirdness with the financial meltdown
I think Palin harmed him much more than she helped him but McCain has only himself to blame for losing
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correct - which means neither one is a lie
you could even say #9 is an opinion but but there is plenty of evidence to support it as being true but let's just say it's an opinion
it seems you agree that a difference of opinion is not a lie so what is your point?
It had nothing to do with the lies.
It has to do with saying what one man says doesnt really matter cause its just his opinion so its not a lie, but then you state your opinion like its some sort of fact. (Saying Palin's deal wasnt a lie cause she really is all those things, when thats just your opinion).
Just like you determing it wasnt a lie about being balanced because you feel its balanced, which is your opinion. But then in the same breath you dismiss Breitbarts view as worthless cause its just his opinion. Lol.
You determined his opinion was worthless using your opinion, then stated it as fact. Epic lulz.
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mccain/romney would have made it close enough for the GOP to steal things.
Remember that october fake youtube breaking news clip "Palin withdraws, mccain chooses romney" - Right then, I said Obama just lost.
Then it was fake, of course. It's like how 33 would feel if he heard breaking news from the GOP convention that "Romney agrees to be VP to Jeb" - 333386 would seriously bust a nut.
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It had nothing to do with the lies.
It has to do with saying what one man says doesnt really matter cause its just his opinion so its not a lie, but then you state your opinion like its some sort of fact. (Saying Palin's deal wasnt a lie cause she really is all those things, when thats just your opinion).
Just like you determing it wasnt a lie about being balanced because you feel its balanced, which is your opinion. But then in the same breath you dismiss Breitbarts view as worthless cause its just his opinion. Lol.
You determined his opinion was worthless using your opinion, then stated it as fact. Epic lulz.
I didin't say the authors opinion didn't matter
I said a difference of opinion is not a lie and the title of the article claimed there were ten lies
the author didn't list one actual lie in her list of the so called 10 lies
what about that is so difficult for you to understand
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Sigh.... no, the fact is your flat out saying that its not a lie because its just his (breitbarts) opinion, then turning around and justifying how the the second one isnt a lie USING YOUR OPINION!
How do you not get that!?
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Sigh.... no, the fact is your flat out saying that its not a lie because its just his (breitbarts) opinion, then turning around and justifying how the the second one isnt a lie USING YOUR OPINION!
How do you not get that!?
the second one can either be false or an opinion......as I've already mentioned
in either case it's not a lie.....as I've already mentioned
what's with you and the constant need to have a pissing contest
btw - have you even seen the movie?
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#1 - I will almost agree on this one. I don't believe Palin is the PRIMARY reason that McCain lost the election. I think the primary reason he lost was how he reacted to the Financial crisis - one moment he is saying the fundamentals of the economy are strong and the next moment he is suspending his campaign. I would say the Palin was a HUGE contributing factor to why he lost but not the primary reason
George Bush was the primary reason McCain lost.
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the second one can either be false or an opinion......as I've already mentioned
in either case it's not a lie.....as I've already mentioned
what's with you and the constant need to have a pissing contest
btw - have you even seen the movie?
Lol, pointing out that your contradicting your own logic is a pissing contest?
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Lol, pointing out that your contradicting your own logic is a pissing contest?
#10 was really a lie but I was being gracious and calling it an opinion
I said # 9 was false, as in not a fact
There is plenty of evidence that Palin is in fact egotistical, ungracious, demanding, stupid, forgetful
would you like evidence to support each one and will you concede these are facts and therefore not lies
I'll give you one to start
See if you can guess which one this is (I gave you a hint just because I get the feeling you'll need one)
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LOL!!!! Why are gays so offended by palin?
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LOL!!!! Why are gays so offended by palin?
where the hell did that come from? Trying to change the topic?
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where the hell did that come from? Trying to change the topic?
Straw, lurker, Chad, bay, Vince have something special against her.
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#10 was really a lie but I was being gracious and calling it an opinion
I said # 9 was false, as in not a fact
There is plenty of evidence that Palin is in fact egotistical, ungracious, demanding, stupid, forgetful
would you like evidence to support each one and will you concede these are facts and therefore not lies
I'll give you one to start
See if you can guess which one this is (I gave you a hint just because I get the feeling you'll need one)
Its still an opinion, others may think differently. The point was you contradicted your own logic, and here you are going round and round again trying to prove why you were justified contradicting yourself by proving your opinion as fact, which no matter how hard you try, is still just an opinion not fact.
Your take on Palin is no more valid than the opinion of Breitbarts that you dismissed so quickly.
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Straw, lurker, Chad, bay, Vince have something special against her.
they're all gay? ::)
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Its still an opinion, others may think differently. The point was you contradicted your own logic, and here you are going round and round again trying to prove why you were justified contradicting yourself by proving your opinion as fact, which no matter how hard you try, is still just an opinion not fact.
Your take on Palin is no more valid than the opinion of Breitbarts that you dismissed so quickly.
I didn't contradict myself because #9 is not true and there is evidence to prove it
I've provided evidence that Palin is forgetful
Would you like to move on to the rest of #9 so you have proof that they are all facts
would you like to try "stupid" next?
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they're all gay? ::)
Think so.
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I didn't contradict myself because #9 is not true and there is evidence to prove it
I've provided evidence that Palin is forgetful
Would you like to move on to the rest of #9 so you have proof that they are all facts
would you like to try "stupid" next?
LOL. When I provide proof on obamas Marxism you dismiss it out of hand no?
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Think so.
I just got done telling Vince what a dumbshit he is. I hope to fuck you're joking now because this is as bad if not.
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LOL. When I provide proof on obamas Marxism you dismiss it out of hand no?
that's because you seem to be the only lawyer on the planet who doesn't know the definition of the word proof
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Palin was a smart choice for McCain. She rallies the base, the abortion and religious vote.
She gets the stupid voters excited and out to the pols.
Still wasn't enough, but it was probably McCain's best bet.
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I didn't contradict myself because #9 is not true and there is evidence to prove it
I've provided evidence that Palin is forgetful
Would you like to move on to the rest of #9 so you have proof that they are all facts
would you like to try "stupid" next?
Lol, proven evidence she's forgetful. ::)
Round and round you go, trying to somehow prove that your opinion (of someones character flaws, which is entirely subjective and changes person to person) proves a point as fact, but Breitbarts opinion doesnt prove anything.
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Lol, proven evidence she's forgetful. ::)
Round and round you go, trying to somehow prove that your opinion (of someones character flaws, which is entirely subjective and changes person to person) proves a point as fact, but Breitbarts opinion doesnt prove anything.
do you even remember what we're talking about
I can't tell for sure?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/03/09/top-10-lies-game-change
Lie #9: Virtually every characteristic attributed to Palin in "Game Change" is false. They portray her as egotistical, ungracious, demanding, stupid, forgetful and, cruelest of all, mentally unstable. They do show her as a loving mother, even though they have her go into "catatonic stupors" when separated from her children. Even when they're trying to be nice they're mean. I don't know Palin personally, but I know people who do. I have never heard any stories that fit the descriptions listed above; in fact, I've heard just the opposite.
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do you even remember what we're talking about
I can't tell for sure?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/03/09/top-10-lies-game-change
Last time im saying this.
Its about you saying that Breitbarts opinion doenst prove shit cause its just an opinion (where he disagrees with the producer), but YOUR opinion (on Palin, cause it agrees with the producer) does prove something! Jesus.
You used your opinion to disprove one point but said Breitbarts opinion cant prove anything because its an opinion.
No matter how much you argue, it doesnt change the fact that what you and the producers feel about Palin is still a fucking opinion and its no more valid than Breitbart's.
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Last time im saying this.
Its about you saying that Breitbarts opinion doenst prove shit cause its just an opinion (where he disagrees with the producer), but YOUR opinion (on Palin, cause it agrees with the producer) does prove something! Jesus.
You used your opinion to disprove one point but said Breitbarts opinion cant prove anything because its an opinion.
No matter how much you argue, it doesnt change the fact that what you and the producers feel about Palin is still a fucking opinion and its no more valid than Breitbart's.
Breitbart didn't even write the article
I made that clear in my first post
the woman who wrote the article has never met or heard stories that "fit the descriptions listed above" as she wrote
I gave her proof that at least one description was easily provable
the author was expressing an opinion
I was proving a fact
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straw that degenerative brain disorder is progressing quite rapidly bro you should seek help.
Define hypocrisey for us...;)
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lol @ the article. I've never met palin, but I know people who have and they say...
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Nicole Wallace couldn't even vote for the ticket. That's telling enough.
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Nicole Wallace couldn't even vote for the ticket. That's telling enough.
And look what we have now.
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And look what we have now.
Are North Korea and South Korea like two hole different countries and everything?
I'm not a geology expert.