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Title: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 14, 2012, 09:21:01 PM
I'm starting to believe that my problem is that I have low or no self esteem?

I read that having no shame is a symptom?  The only thing that motivates me in life is looking good, or smart, or important to others, and experiencing good physical feelings.

Wtf...

What's my problem?  Low self esteem?  This never occurred to me until I started researching.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 14, 2012, 09:26:06 PM
I can only be myself around about six people I know well.  Around others I'm always acting, not being me.  Why?
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: D.O.U.P on March 14, 2012, 09:26:37 PM
Narcissist. Text book my man.

Oh and def low self esteem.

Hey, we are all fucked up in one way or another :P
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: 99 Bananas on March 14, 2012, 09:46:16 PM
I'd like to know how it is that you know you have something that isn't even real. Shame.... esteem.... these are labels you've put on what are called feelings. Feelings are all the same. Just feelings. Some feel better or worse than others so we judge and put labels on them as to what they are.... but you must understand they're all the same. Words to describe feelings help us think that they're seperate. Shame guilt love self esteem... the whole game is all the same thing. If you feel something... it's just a feeling!

Imagine you see yourself standing in the middle of a room. Ask what do you see? Do you see shame? self esteem? No. These are just concepts developed by your mind. We have a tendency to build concepts of who we are and who others are. It's done mostly by constant judging. Better worse, tall, fat, handsome, ugly, and whatever else you may use to judge everything. When you judge others all the time, you'll come to assume everyone is judging you all the time. What you see in yourself is what you will see in other people. It's by your own understanding of yourself that you have low self esteem. Any fool will see his own foolishness. When you come to see yourself as nothing, you will realize everyone is that same nothing. And out of this nothignness you may become anything. Nothing is more ripe for creation than empty space. If you're stuck believing that you're a person that has low self esteem, you'll be that person all the time.

Your goal should be to live formless. Clear your mind and let it all come to you. If you feel nervous that's fine. Be nervous. It will pass. Your very effort to control your feelings and rise out of this low self esteem creates low self esteem. The more you want power, the more you can't have it. Why is that? If you had it you wouldn't want it. To want something abstract is to chase your own tail.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 14, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
I'm starting to believe that my problem is that I have low or no self esteem?

I read that having no shame is a symptom?  The only thing that motivates me in life is looking good, or smart, or important to others, and experiencing good physical feelings.

Wtf...

What's my problem?  Low self esteem?  This never occurred to me until I started researching.
Don't waste your time with that Psychology bullshit! It will get you nowhere - Psychiatry has actually killed more humans than all the world wars put together - this is true - Psychology can only lead you astray, it is a sponsored government pseudo science use to control and manipulate populations.

Self Esteem is POP Psychology BS anyway - it is based on what somebody thinks about themselves - and since must people are delusional, their self esteem is based on non reality - this is why people are easily shattered when reality interferes with their false perceptions of themselves.

Better to develop character and a good attitude - these qualities aren't based on delusional beliefs about oneself.!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: AlphaM on March 14, 2012, 10:04:37 PM
I'd like to know how it is that you know you have something that isn't even real. Shame.... esteem.... these are labels you've put on what are called feelings. Feelings are all the same. Just feelings. Some feel better or worse than others so we judge and put labels on them as to what they are.... but you must understand they're all the same. Words to describe feelings help us think that they're seperate. Shame guilt love self esteem... the whole game is all the same thing. If you feel something... it's just a feeling!

Imagine you see yourself standing in the middle of a room. Ask what do you see? Do you see shame? self esteem? No. These are just concepts developed by your mind. We have a tendency to build concepts of who we are and who others are. It's done mostly by constant judging. Better worse, tall, fat, handsome, ugly, and whatever else you may use to judge everything. When you judge others all the time, you'll come to assume everyone is judging you all the time. What you see in yourself is what you will see in other people. It's by your own understanding of yourself that you have low self esteem. Any fool will see his own foolishness. When you come to see yourself as nothing, you will realize everyone is that same nothing. And out of this nothignness you may become anything. Nothing is more ripe for creation than empty space. If you're stuck believing that you're a person that has low self esteem, you'll be that person all the time.

Your goal should be to live formless. Clear your mind and let it all come to you. If you feel nervous that's fine. Be nervous. It will pass. Your very effort to control your feelings and rise out of this low self esteem creates low self esteem. The more you want power, the more you can't have it. Why is that? If you had it you wouldn't want it. To want something abstract is to chase your own tail.

^^^ this, also accept your feelings, thoughts let them pass thru you, do not be scared of anything, for ex. some people I know would act fake all the time and it looks very sad... I see how they suffer deep inside, see how their souls are almost dead for ex. in question "are you tired? you look so tired and sad today" - most will answer "no, no I'm GOOD!! everything is perfect!!! What's up?" instead of being self and saying "yes I'm a bit sad and tired" just look straight into their eyes and say it how you feel. There's nothing wrong in that, you are saying truth, not complaining.

It's hard in the beginning but if you sorta practice that you will see how you change into better, "full/whole" individual. It is important to know that you are perfect already there's nothing wrong with you - you are who you are, and if you exist means there's a reason for that. you share your thoughts with others just like others share their thoughts with you, also you breath the same air that we all breath.

Just be yourself all the time and you will see how things will change into positive direction.

accept everything: people colors, behavior, gender, nationality, race, manners, looks, style, sex, interests, everything should be accepted by you because they exist for a reason just like you.

most important one - love yourself and share that love with others.

and there's one book which will open your mind it's called ""the book of Mirdad" it's the best book in the world so be careful ;)
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 14, 2012, 10:09:57 PM
I'd like to know how it is that you know you have something that isn't even real. Shame.... esteem.... these are labels you've put on what are called feelings. Feelings are all the same. Just feelings. Some feel better or worse than others so we judge and put labels on them as to what they are.... but you must understand they're all the same. Words to describe feelings help us think that they're seperate. Shame guilt love self esteem... the whole game is all the same thing. If you feel something... it's just a feeling!

Imagine you see yourself standing in the middle of a room. Ask what do you see? Do you see shame? self esteem? No. These are just concepts developed by your mind. We have a tendency to build concepts of who we are and who others are. It's done mostly by constant judging. Better worse, tall, fat, handsome, ugly, and whatever else you may use to judge everything. When you judge others all the time, you'll come to assume everyone is judging you all the time. What you see in yourself is what you will see in other people. It's by your own understanding of yourself that you have low self esteem. Any fool will see his own foolishness. When you come to see yourself as nothing, you will realize everyone is that same nothing. And out of this nothignness you may become anything. Nothing is more ripe for creation than empty space. If you're stuck believing that you're a person that has low self esteem, you'll be that person all the time.

Your goal should be to live formless. Clear your mind and let it all come to you. If you feel nervous that's fine. Be nervous. It will pass. Your very effort to control your feelings and rise out of this low self esteem creates low self esteem. The more you want power, the more you can't have it. Why is that? If you had it you wouldn't want it. To want something abstract is to chase your own tail.
This is New Age Bullshit! Only the lost souls and women believe this shit!

Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: AlphaM on March 14, 2012, 10:11:56 PM
This is New Age Bullshit! Only the lost souls and women believe this shit!

there're lots of lost souls in this world, LOTS! and this is not bullshit ;)
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 14, 2012, 10:18:15 PM
there're lots of lost souls in this world, LOTS! and this is not bullshit ;)
Well to all the Lost Souls out there:
Just live your fucking life for fuck sake! don't listen to all these new age wankers with their airy fairy "just let life flow through you" bullshit -
Its not hard - if you aren't feeling too good about yourself, remind yourself of times you have been competent - nobody is either all good or all bad - we are mixtures of both - not feeling good about yourself means you are paying too much attention on the stuff you aren't very good at, you need to focus on the stuff you do well or have done well in the past.  On the other hand, if your ego gets out of check, and you become arrogant and boastful you will need to remind yourself of the times you have failed or not done well.  It's all about coming back to the middle ground - When NASA sent the Space Shuttle to the moon - they had an intended course, although the shuttle never actually followed that course, the job of the NASA engineers was to bring the Shuttle back closer to the intended course - but the entire trip is about bringing your shuttle closer to the middle path (or intended course)
this is all we can do - set course - stay on course via adjustments - avoid going way off course!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: AlphaM on March 14, 2012, 10:23:25 PM
Well to all the Lost Souls out there:
Just live your fucking life for fuck sake! don't listen to all these new age wankers with their airy fairy "just let life flow through you" bullshit -
Its not hard - if you aren't feeling too good about yourself, remind yourself of times you have been competent - nobody is either all good or all bad - we are mixtures of both - not feeling good about yourself means you are paying too much attention on the stuff you aren't very good at, you need to focus on the stuff you do well or have done well in the past.  On the other hand, if your ego gets out of check, and you become arrogant and boastful you will need to remind yourself of the times you have failed or not done well.  It's all about coming back to the middle ground - When NASA sent the Space Shuttle to the moon - they had an intended course, although the shuttle never actually followed that course, the job of the NASA engineers was to bring the Shuttle back closer to the intended course - but the entire trip is about bringing your shuttle closer to the middle path (or intended course)
this is all we can do - set course - stay on course via adjustments - avoid going way off course!

agree, and well said about the ego thing and "being in the middle" in other words never exaggerate/overreact whatever happens good or bad it's all about serenity. Life will always put you down if you rise too high and will bring you up if you fall down too deep it will balance you out one just needs to let it go and  let life do its thing

just some people need help... lots of people are on meds even on this board I see lots of them take anti depressants, sleep meds, anti anxiety...

oh well...  :P


Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: andreisdaman on March 14, 2012, 10:27:24 PM
bump
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 14, 2012, 10:29:50 PM
agree, and well said about the ego thing and "being in the middle" in other words never exaggerate/overreact whatever happens good or bad it's all about serenity. Life will always put you in the middle, will balance you out just let it go.

just some people need help... lots of people are on meds even on this board I see lots of them take anti depressants, sleep meds, anti anxiety...

oh well...  :P



Yes, a lot of people don't realise that being unrealistically over confident, boastful, arrogant etc  are just as bad as being depressed, self critical, self loathing -  these are all signs we are out of balance - the reason balance is so important, is because it is only from a balanced mindset can we make the best and most reasonable analysis of our life and life around us.  A Balanced mind gives one the ability to see life clearly and without impediment - Gandhi said - There is No path to peace - PEACE IS THE PATH!

Oh and for anybody on psych meds (anti depressants - ant anxiety's etc....) get away from our psychiatrist, stop the meds - I know I will be criticised worse than Tom Cruise - but it is these things that will keep you miserable - Your Government has no interest in you being happy, as a matter of fact it profits handsomely from your misery! Do not believe the hype - sadness and anxiety are not mental illnesses, they are part of the human condition, and do not believe any doctor when he tells you that you need anti depressants - it is Bullshit and these are very dangerous drugs!  If you want to remain in your misery keep taking that shit!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: andreisdaman on March 14, 2012, 10:35:29 PM
I'm starting to believe that my problem is that I have low or no self esteem?

I read that having no shame is a symptom?  The only thing that motivates me in life is looking good, or smart, or important to others, and experiencing good physical feelings.

Wtf...

What's my problem?  Low self esteem?  This never occurred to me until I started researching.

Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.


Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: AlphaM on March 14, 2012, 10:40:40 PM
Girls and sons who have not been loved by their fathers seek attention once teens and adults to compensate for what they didnt have originally. Fathers either left them alone, or were distant most of the time and not encouraging them. Some even despised them which would shape their personality and the way they d interact with others for the rest of their life.
They are extremistic in everything they do, always looking exageratly for attention, and have troubles adapting to society's rules, because they also have troubles defining their own identity and respecting authority and hierarchy.


Also boys who got picked on by others during childhood and adolescence -often sons without a father figure- try to compensate by lifting weights, to develop muscles and survive in ther male world. They re insecure because they re girly, childish, feminine having been raised by a single mom. They lift obsessively hoping it will transform them into men, to compensate for their lack of influence from a father figure that was not there. Unfortunaltey they can get as big as they can it doesnt cure their insecurity and who they truly are, how they grew up being raised by a single mom. They re no as manly as other men whatever they do, and they often have a big lack of masculine presence they dont know how to balance, hence often being borderline homosexuals while trying to get their manhood back thru various manly activities (mma, cars, weight lifting etc). They are often the ones that, in order to get respect from other males will go the steroids route to get even "bigger" attemptint to cure their insecurity , but being natural not being "enough", they still feel "too small", insecure, amongst other males. The lack of a father figure also often means they didnt have guidance to continue studies and are often working shitty manual jobs.

you fuk :D you bumped this thread for what? :D

E-Kul agree on the last post very true! I'll add more on this tomorrow as I hope people who need some guidance will read it and change their life into positive not medicated journey.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: tbombz on March 14, 2012, 10:44:43 PM
I'm starting to believe that my problem is that I have low or no self esteem?

I read that having no shame is a symptom?  The only thing that motivates me in life is looking good, or smart, or important to others, and experiencing good physical feelings.

Wtf...

What's my problem?  Low self esteem?  This never occurred to me until I started researching.

what maks you think you have a problem?

is there something about yourself that you dont feel great about ?

do you have something to live for ?

I can only be myself around about six people I know well.  Around others I'm always acting, not being me.  Why?
Maybe you dont like yourself. maybe you know of a better alternative personality that feels good because people like it. or maybe your just focusing on the situation your in instead of focusing on yourself. or. you tell me.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: 99 Bananas on March 14, 2012, 11:26:48 PM
Well to all the Lost Souls out there:
Just live your fucking life for fuck sake! don't listen to all these new age wankers with their airy fairy "just let life flow through you" bullshit -
Its not hard - if you aren't feeling too good about yourself, remind yourself of times you have been competent - nobody is either all good or all bad - we are mixtures of both - not feeling good about yourself means you are paying too much attention on the stuff you aren't very good at, you need to focus on the stuff you do well or have done well in the past.  On the other hand, if your ego gets out of check, and you become arrogant and boastful you will need to remind yourself of the times you have failed or not done well.  It's all about coming back to the middle ground - When NASA sent the Space Shuttle to the moon - they had an intended course, although the shuttle never actually followed that course, the job of the NASA engineers was to bring the Shuttle back closer to the intended course - but the entire trip is about bringing your shuttle closer to the middle path (or intended course)
this is all we can do - set course - stay on course via adjustments - avoid going way off course!

Life does flow through you. Life is a current we're all stuck in. It provides feeling and experience. If we go against these feelings and experiences by creating our own by naming them and having them as we have them in our minds, we miss reality. This is to live in the ego - To assert your own reality is to miss the true nature of things. To deny reality is also to miss the true nature of things. When the universe flows without your judging of it, you can truly see how it is, and get comfortable with it. Or the alternative you may create your own reality and swim againt the current of what is.

You might ask how it is "life flows through you." An example - Trees are not made of wood, They are wood. The sun isn't busy shining, it just is. This is the true nature of being. Humans aren't trying to be being made of energy and light, they just are. When we begin to assert the reality that we're anything at all we begin to live as the ego. When we begin to live as the ego we clash against the flow of what is and this is where suffering is born.

The directions you give are for the person seeking to live in the comfortable ego (there really is no such thing). I say we move forward and just let the ego go. Or we can go ahead and weaken ourselves. It's your choice.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 14, 2012, 11:36:00 PM
Life does flow through you. Life is a current we're all stuck in. It provides feeling and experience. If we go against these feelings and experiences by creating our own by naming them and having them as we have them in our minds, we miss reality. This is to live in the ego - To assert your own reality is to miss the true nature of things. To deny reality is also to miss the true nature of things. When the universe flows without your judging of it, you can truly see how it is, and get comfortable with it. Or the alternative you may create your own reality and swim againt the current of what is.

You might ask how it is "life flows through you." An example - Trees are not made of wood, They are wood. The sun isn't busy shining, it just is. This is the true nature of being. Humans aren't trying to be being made of energy and light, they just are. When we begin to assert the reality that we're anything at all we begin to live as the ego. When we begin to live as the ego we clash against the flow of what is and this is where suffering is born.

The directions you give are for the person seeking to live in the comfortable ego (there really is no such thing). I say we move forward and just let the ego go. Or we can go ahead and weaken ourselves. It's your choice.
Once again New Age Bullshit!
Live is pretty shitty man! so Just live practically, learn practical skills, be kind and most of all never ever let anybody get your spirit down! Our Spirit is ours to protect, do not let intruders stamp on yours!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: 99 Bananas on March 14, 2012, 11:44:24 PM
haha i'll just leave one last quote and be gone "If you wish to see the truth, hold no opinions for or against anything" Apply that to your opnions on how you feel about life or how you feel about falcon. it's just an opinion. all words are pretty much opinions of what is. And all that is just is. words are nto truth they just describe it. All of your thoughts are not truth. None of them are. your thoughts never existed and never will. So why hold should they hold any signifigance at all? There is no path to happiness. There is no path to anytrhing in the mind. If you want to feel good. Feel good when you naturally feel good. Any other time it will not happen. A catterpillar cannot rip away it's caterpillarness. It just happens. Deal with it. Im stoned. Fuck off.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 14, 2012, 11:50:08 PM
haha i'll just leave one last quote and be gone "If you wish to see the truth, hold no opinions for or against anything"
well technically thats an opinion, so by the very suggestion of the passage, it is invalid - same as saying "my opinion is to have no opinions" - it is also similar to the saying "All Generalisations are dangerous, including this one!"

There are no rules, you can only prepare for "WHAT MAY" Happen based on your current circumstances  - overcome fear and the circumstances you find yourself in wont matter!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: tbombz on March 14, 2012, 11:58:01 PM
99 bananas makes some very good points i think he just words it in a way that encourages misinterpretation of his intended message.


"have no opinions"

was supposed to be more like

 "know that you cant prove anything, and that without proof nothing is certain, so dont feel certain of anything but have only have ideas about what is true based on what youve experienced and what seems to be true"

that got a little bit wordy, but its 99 bananas message not mine  ;D 
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: diamondcut on March 15, 2012, 12:42:11 AM
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: dr.chimps on March 15, 2012, 04:22:35 AM
Familiar with psychology!? Pffft. Getbig's got a residency of shrinks that would make Viennese psychiatrists look like pikers.   ::)
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on March 15, 2012, 05:38:45 AM
Don't waste your time with that Psychology bullshit! It will get you nowhere - Psychiatry has actually killed more humans than all the world wars put together - this is true - Psychology can only lead you astray, it is a sponsored government pseudo science use to control and manipulate populations.

Self Esteem is POP Psychology BS anyway - it is based on what somebody thinks about themselves - and since must people are delusional, their self esteem is based on non reality - this is why people are easily shattered when reality interferes with their false perceptions of themselves.

Better to develop character and a good attitude - these qualities aren't based on delusional beliefs about oneself.!

You are seriously out of your depth here, please refrain from posting anymore of this drivel, it will only make you look like a bigger baffoon. HTH.
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Post by: wes on March 15, 2012, 05:40:45 AM
The minute you stop trying to please others in life,is the minute you become free.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Tito24 on March 15, 2012, 05:41:56 AM
The minute you stop trying to please others in life,is the minute you become free.

thats absolutely true!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: TrapsMcLats on March 15, 2012, 05:55:18 AM
Don't waste your time with that Psychology bullshit! It will get you nowhere - Psychiatry has actually killed more humans than all the world wars put together - this is true - Psychology can only lead you astray, it is a sponsored government pseudo science use to control and manipulate populations.

Self Esteem is POP Psychology BS anyway - it is based on what somebody thinks about themselves - and since must people are delusional, their self esteem is based on non reality - this is why people are easily shattered when reality interferes with their false perceptions of themselves.

Better to develop character and a good attitude - these qualities aren't based on delusional beliefs about oneself.!

Developing character and good attitude are classic archetypes within the psych world.  Self esteem is not POP psychology, Dr. Phil is POP psychology. Huge difference. 
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Post by: Tito24 on March 15, 2012, 05:59:50 AM
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Post by: Tapeworm on March 15, 2012, 06:07:31 AM
Sounds like a textbook case of repressed homosexuality.
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Post by: dj181 on March 15, 2012, 06:10:50 AM
(http://www.graham-mitchell.com/forum-images/Image062and064mix.jpg)

come on man! don't post pics of girls like this, coz those are the type of girls that make me "fall in love"

post pics like this man, so that i can keep viewing women as sex toys/objects ;)
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Post by: Tito24 on March 15, 2012, 06:28:54 AM
damn those assesssssss how can someone be gay!!!!!
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Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2012, 10:30:37 PM
I can only be myself around about six people I know well.  Around others I'm always acting, not being me.  Why?

Become a Buddhist like me..it helps you deal with life.....you gotta take control of yourself and your mind..

"A great warrior can conquer an army...but he who conquers himself is the greatest warrior of all".
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Post by: Radical Plato on March 15, 2012, 10:49:15 PM
Become a Buddhist like me..it helps you deal with life.....you gotta take control of yourself and your mind..

"A great warrior can conquer an army...but he who conquers himself is the greatest warrior of all".
Didn't the Chinese just destroy the whole Tibetan and Buddhist Culture, exiling their leader The Dalia lama to India who now travels the world telling everyone how the Chinese just ass raped his people and kicked him out of the country he supposedly ruled over,  A leader without a home.  Unfortunately it seems great warriors can conquer Buddhism and anybody who stands for it.
Does what you say actually mean anything "he who conquers himself is the greatest warrior of all" - this is just romantic semantics.
What does it mean to conquer yourself - Does it mean to overcome base urges and lead a disciplined life and when tradegy strikes suffer with a quiet dignity - Do any of these repeaters ever have more detailed explanations of their airy fairy worn out cliched sayings!

I mean seriously, what the fuck does it mean to conquer oneself! man this is the 21st century and somehow all that ancient shit seems like bunk!
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Post by: andreisdaman on March 15, 2012, 11:41:06 PM
Didn't the Chinese just destroy the whole Tibetan and Buddhist Culture, exiling their leader The Dalia lama to India who now travels the world telling everyone how the Chinese just ass raped his people and kicked him out of the country he supposedly ruled over,  A leader without a home.  Unfortunately it seems great warriors can conquer Buddhism and anybody who stands for it.
Does what you say actually mean anything "he who conquers himself is the greatest warrior of all" - this is just romantic semantics.
What does it mean to conquer yourself - Does it mean to overcome base urges and lead a disciplined life and when tradegy strikes suffer with a quiet dignity - Do any of these repeaters ever have more detailed explanations of their airy fairy worn out cliched sayings!

I mean seriously, what the fuck does it mean to conquer oneself! man this is the 21st century and somehow all that ancient shit seems like bunk!

I will give you credit..you tried to make some good points here....but first off, a large amount of Chinese themselves are Buddhist.....they didn't try to destroy Buddhism..it was a land grab plain and simple.....also Buddhism is a guide which helps someone who has weak impulses control himself and live a dignified life....it is a psychology of daily living that helps one to cope with life and misfortune.....conquerin g ones self means to basically control destructive impulses and urges....which often lead to self-destruction....or deep depression, suicide, drug abuse, alcoholism, low self-esteem etc....

As for suffering with a quiet dignity, no.....Buddhism teaches you how NOT to suffer...by practicing mindfulness....and not taking everything in life as a crisis which we often do....it teaches you to remain calm and think...its about self-help..the resources to help oneself is within the individual....don't look to others or an unseen God to save you....Once you conquer desire and stop trying to please others you are essentially free.....unchecked emotionalism leads to problems
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 16, 2012, 12:05:00 AM
I will give you credit..you tried to make some good points here....but first off, a large amount of Chinese themselves are Buddhist.....they didn't try to destroy Buddhism..it was a land grab plain and simple.....also Buddhism is a guide which helps someone who has weak impulses control himself and live a dignified life....it is a psychology of daily living that helps one to cope with life and misfortune.....conquerin g ones self means to basically control destructive impulses and urges....which often lead to self-destruction....or deep depression, suicide, drug abuse, alcoholism, low self-esteem etc....

As for suffering with a quiet dignity, no.....Buddhism teaches you how NOT to suffer...by practicing mindfulness....and not taking everything in life as a crisis which we often do....it teaches you to remain calm and think...its about self-help..the resources to help oneself is within the individual....don't look to others or an unseen God to save you....Once you conquer desire and stop trying to please others you are essentially free.....unchecked emotionalism leads to problems
yeah well, none of that has stopped the monks going crazy, burning themselves in protest, and essentially using passive aggressive and gorilla  techniques to rid tibet of China.  The chinese in general literally hate the Dalai Lama due to the constant propaganda from the Chinese Government - It was more than a land grab - Initially, Mao wasn't shy in letting people know that he thought Buddhism and Religion in general were Poison! Mao wanted to destroy religious cultures full stop!  Anyway, all that Buddhist nonsense hasn't helped the Monks themselves one bit, as a matter of fact defending Tibet and Buddhism has caused them a heap of suffering and death!

Anyway, Westerners always just adopt a popular cliche practice like meditation, read a few Dalai lama books and call themselves Buddhists without having any real idea of what it means to be a "Practising Buddhist Monk"  Buddhism is just as fucked up as any other religion and has some way out nonsense beliefs when you look deeply into it!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Fallsview on March 16, 2012, 03:01:09 AM
What is a "psychologist" anyway?  Who on earth would want to be one of those?  Is there any jobs for them? Especially a school psychologist, what a boring, stupid job that is.  I wonder if someone could get their doctorate in psychology by writing about an internet bodybuilding board?  WOW, that would be something!!!!!  All the characters portraying themselves as someone their not. Electronic acceptance and internet "gangs", paranoia of gimmicks even though they themselves are living a lie through a computer....could be interesting....I wonder who did that?





GODSPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: _bruce_ on March 16, 2012, 04:23:43 AM
Wes is spot on.
The minute you deviate from your self is the minute you get sick.
Mushrooms can help to free your mind as in purging you from the insanity that you get fed on a daily basis.
A good balance of your archaic and spiritual self may hold the key to inner well being.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 16, 2012, 05:35:52 AM
I really appreciate all the input guys, very helpful.

Feeling really good today
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: andreisdaman on March 16, 2012, 06:48:25 AM
yeah well, none of that has stopped the monks going crazy, burning themselves in protest, and essentially using passive aggressive and gorilla  techniques to rid tibet of China.  The chinese in general literally hate the Dalai Lama due to the constant propaganda from the Chinese Government - It was more than a land grab - Initially, Mao wasn't shy in letting people know that he thought Buddhism and Religion in general were Poison! Mao wanted to destroy religious cultures full stop!  Anyway, all that Buddhist nonsense hasn't helped the Monks themselves one bit, as a matter of fact defending Tibet and Buddhism has caused them a heap of suffering and death!

Anyway, Westerners always just adopt a popular cliche practice like meditation, read a few Dalai lama books and call themselves Buddhists without having any real idea of what it means to be a "Practising Buddhist Monk"  Buddhism is just as fucked up as any other religion and has some way out nonsense beliefs when you look deeply into it!

Buddhism isn't just for Monks....those are guys who want to be totally absorbed into Buddhism...for the everyday guy its just a way of daily living minus the nonsense religious aspect..also there are Monks all over the world..not just in Tibet...christians and catholics don't adhere to all tenets of their faith....they adopt there faith to their reality...many christians and catholics use birth control, have pre-marital sex, etc..

I'm just saying its a way to keep your self out of trouble..as all religions are
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: andreisdaman on March 16, 2012, 06:53:09 AM
What is a "psychologist" anyway?  Who on earth would want to be one of those?  Is there any jobs for them? Especially a school psychologist, what a boring, stupid job that is.  I wonder if someone could get their doctorate in psychology by writing about an internet bodybuilding board?  WOW, that would be something!!!!!  All the characters portraying themselves as someone their not. Electronic acceptance and internet "gangs", paranoia of gimmicks even though they themselves are living a lie through a computer....could be interesting....I wonder who did that?





GODSPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you are right..that would be an interesting thesis..LOL...however I disagree with you about psychologists...they are very important in our society thanks to the research they do...finding out why people behave in the ways that they do.....which is why we have a better understanding of human nature...people assume psychologists only see crazy people..not the case.... some are biopsychologists who study the brain and its functions as well....

you do have a good point possibly about school psychologists....I'm not sure how useful they are...but the job is fascinating  in that you have hundreds of subjects to study and  test theory on
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: andreisdaman on March 16, 2012, 06:58:57 AM
I really appreciate all the input guys, very helpful.

Feeling really good today

best thing to do is....get back to focusing on yourself.....let go of all the outside bullshit that is pulling at you and weighing you down in life.....hit the gym constantly...stop masturbating so much (it depletes energy)...eat better..get enough sleep and try to find a woman who makes you feel good about yourself (make sure you are banging the hell out of her) and doesn't give you endless drama......read good books.....go back to school and further your education....all of these positive things will raise your self esteem in no time....stop playing a role for people..be yourself and stay calm and positive..people will see a change in you and you will see a big change in yourself....
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 16, 2012, 07:01:36 AM
I'm just saying its a way to keep your self out of trouble..as all religions are
I would say the opposite, if you join a religion or any group with a fixed doctine and tradition, you are asking for trouble! JMO
People join faith groups because they don't like to be alone - and it's easy - ya just say yeah I believe - gee Whiz - Come One Come all ya gotta say is You Believe! Gee Whiz - Let go of your instincts and curiosity and just have faith! Yeah Dude lets ride the hippy dippy Jesus train to redemption from whatever we tell you that you need redeeming from!
Any Group that Takes anyone is no group I want to be part of!

Religion + Psychiatry + Government = Heaps of wanton murder, war, destruction & unnecessary violence

Best to try and work it out yourself - no thinker from the past, no matter how great, could have anticipated todays Modern Depraved World - There are no rules - the time has come to define new philosophies and guidelines to live your life by.  Time for brave new minds to emerge and many new alternate lifestyles adopted.  be a pioneer and live your life in a unique way - do not follow the crowd, no matter how hard and lonely the path becomes.  Always examine the facts - and beware of charlatans, for they are everywhere!  But most of all, never lose faith in yourself and use others criticisms and attacks as fuel to further your efforts for what you believe to be right!
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: andreisdaman on March 16, 2012, 07:06:43 AM
I would say the opposite, if you join a religion or any group with a fixed doctine and tradition, you are asking for trouble! JMO
People join faith groups because they dont like to be alone - and it's easy - ya just say yeah I believe - gee Whiz - Come One Come all ya gotta say is You Believe! Gee Whiz
Any Group that Takes anyone is no group I want to be part of!

but this is not to join a religion or be a part of something...it is a personal thing...for your own daily living...thats all
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Radical Plato on March 16, 2012, 07:17:16 AM
but this is not to join a religion or be a part of something...it is a personal thing...for your own daily living...thats all
even if you are on the periphery, you are part of something that has been linked to much war and violence - religion - Personally, I don't attach myself to violent groups, and no matter what spin religions put on things, they are a murderous bunch! add that to the fact they have been getting their gullible parishioners to believe in fairy tales, the whole thing makes your head spin.  I like the old saying, No Company is better than Bad Company!  I always see some of the truths from Religion as a intellectual vehicle.  Much like a canoe is used for crossing a river, once you have crossed the river, you leave the canoe behind and walk on.  Most people are still stuck in the canoe half way across the river or have made it to the other side and have continued on still carrying the canoe with them when it is no longer needed.  For anyone searching the truth - eventually faith groups will be abandoned! JMO

The Buddhists may be wrong, karma may be bunk, reincarnation is certainly questionable, and violence may be a necessary and important tool in human relations - the very attempt at trying to create a buddhist utopia may have created much more violence than the buddhists had anticipated.  So in terms of seeking peace, Buddhist thought may not be ideal
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Necrosis on March 16, 2012, 08:12:46 AM
I'm starting to believe that my problem is that I have low or no self esteem?

I read that having no shame is a symptom?  The only thing that motivates me in life is looking good, or smart, or important to others, and experiencing good physical feelings.

Wtf...

What's my problem?  Low self esteem?  This never occurred to me until I started researching.

you lack character. Yes i know about psychology.

get the book seven habits of highly effective people.

it will help the pussification you are going through.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Roger Bacon on March 16, 2012, 08:52:08 AM
you lack character. Yes i know about psychology.

get the book seven habits of highly effective people.

it will help the pussification you are going through.

Thanks, Read it.

Also still have the audio book version on my phone, lol
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Necrosis on March 16, 2012, 12:18:28 PM
you are right..that would be an interesting thesis..LOL...however I disagree with you about psychologists...they are very important in our society thanks to the research they do...finding out why people behave in the ways that they do.....which is why we have a better understanding of human nature...people assume psychologists only see crazy people..not the case.... some are biopsychologists who study the brain and its functions as well....

you do have a good point possibly about school psychologists....I'm not sure how useful they are...but the job is fascinating  in that you have hundreds of subjects to study and  test theory on

cbt a mainstay in psychology is the best treatment for mental health issues, pshychology and neuroscience are budding fields which are the most intense to study, the most difficult imo.

if you actually study psychology you would understand it much better, im not talking to you now just in a general sense.
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: NeilGM on March 16, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
I'm starting to believe that my problem is that I have low or no self esteem?

I read that having no shame is a symptom?  The only thing that motivates me in life is looking good, or smart, or important to others, and experiencing good physical feelings.

Wtf...

What's my problem?  Low self esteem?  This never occurred to me until I started researching.

It's called being shallow bud
Title: Re: Anyone Familiar With Psychology? Off Topic
Post by: Necrosis on March 17, 2012, 02:41:30 PM
Thanks, Read it.

Also still have the audio book version on my phone, lol

ok try when panic attacks (cbt. not only for panic, its just geared towards anxiety states). The author is someone who invented cbt and its the best method for attacking irrational thoughts.