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Title: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 10:05:07 AM
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Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 16, 2012, 10:08:58 AM
maybe when you finally meet with O'Keefe to work on the Ayers/Breitbart murder connection you two can also work on the revolution
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 10:11:26 AM
maybe when you finally meet with O'Keefe to work on the Ayers/Breitbart murder connection you two can also work on the revolution

Corzine, Gentsler, Geithner, Kashkari, Summers - yeah everything is perfectly fine bro!

   
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: blacken700 on March 16, 2012, 10:12:13 AM
what happen to the rest of these ground breaking vidioes  :D :D
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 16, 2012, 10:13:18 AM
Corzine, Gentsler, Geithner, Kashkari, Summers - yeah everything is perfectly fine bro!   

how'd that call with O'Keefe go

are you two going to have a press conference soon to reveal your evidence that Ayer's poisoned Breitbart?
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 10:14:12 AM
how'd that call with O'Keefe go

are you two going to have a press conference soon to reveal your evidence that Ayer's poisoned Breitbart?

more diversion from you  - again -   corzine, gentsler, geithner, summers,   - DEAL WITH IT   
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 16, 2012, 10:18:23 AM
more diversion from you  - again -   corzine, gentsler, geithner, summers,   - DEAL WITH IT   

so I assume that means you and O'Keefe are still compiling the evidence

I guess you're just building an iron-clad case so no one can accuse you of jumping to ridiculous conclusions


Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 11:01:24 AM
so I assume that means you and O'Keefe are still compiling the evidence

I guess you're just building an iron-clad case so no one can accuse you of jumping to ridiculous conclusions




Asume what ever the hell you want - the fact is that you can't run from the communist occupier in chiefs' record of being an errand boy for GS   
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 16, 2012, 11:07:52 AM
Asume what ever the hell you want - the fact is that you can't run from the communist occupier in chiefs' record of being an errand boy for GS   

LOL

Angry much ?

oh yeah, I forgot

All the time
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Shockwave on March 16, 2012, 11:20:51 AM
He's right of course, no change will come from elections as long as they keep blocking out the only candidates that arent a part of their little circus (Rand and Ron).
I mean, its pretty apparent to me that the only guy that threatens their little power structure is malinged, mocked, tossed to the side and belittles in an attempt to make him appear unelectable (which seems to be working).

I wouldnt complain if a revolution started - but better hurry, because at the rate the government is taking our liberties, it wont be long until were defenseless.
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 16, 2012, 12:07:38 PM
He's right of course, no change will come from elections as long as they keep blocking out the only candidates that arent a part of their little circus (Rand and Ron).
I mean, its pretty apparent to me that the only guy that threatens their little power structure is malinged, mocked, tossed to the side and belittles in an attempt to make him appear unelectable (which seems to be working).

I wouldnt complain if a revolution started - but better hurry, because at the rate the government is taking our liberties, it wont be long until were defenseless.

who is blocking them

they both hold office and no one is stopping them from talking

maybe the reason no one is voting to Ron Paul is because his message is mostly kooky (cue the Randians to go apeshit)

btw - I like RP and think he is the most consistent of any politician on the left or right.....but I would never want him or his even crazier son as POTUS

Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 12:09:06 PM
who is blocking them

they both hold office and no one is stopping them from talking

maybe the reason no one is voting to Ron Paul is because his message is mostly kooky (cue the Randians to go apeshit)

btw - I like RP and think he is the most consistent of any politician on the left or right.....but I would never want him or his even crazier son as POTUS



of course not!   you want a massive nanny state running everyones' life and bossing everyone around in all aspects of their lives. 
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 16, 2012, 12:11:24 PM
of course not!   you want a massive nanny state running everyones' life and bossing everyone around in all aspects of their lives. 

how about you speak for yourself and stop projecting your insane delusions onto me and others

Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Shockwave on March 16, 2012, 01:01:29 PM
who is blocking them

they both hold office and no one is stopping them from talking

maybe the reason no one is voting to Ron Paul is because his message is mostly kooky (cue the Randians to go apeshit)

btw - I like RP and think he is the most consistent of any politician on the left or right.....but I would never want him or his even crazier son as POTUS


::)
Clearly you havent read much into the Ron Paul voter fraud.
Thats not the point, his ideas arent kooky, he has 1 idea people dont like (national defense) and everything else is "racism" or some equally stupid claim.
Its sad when people consider Liberty, Personal Responsibility and the Constitution as "kooky".
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: 240 is Back on March 16, 2012, 02:45:37 PM
people let Rush, hannity and mark levin decide ron paul is unelectable.

they deserve to be enslaved for being so damn stupid. 
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 16, 2012, 02:48:10 PM
people let Rush, hannity and mark levin decide ron paul is unelectable.

they deserve to be enslaved for being so damn stupid. 

LOL from the guy who was too hung over to vote for him. 
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 16, 2012, 03:29:18 PM
::)
Clearly you havent read much into the Ron Paul voter fraud.
Thats not the point, his ideas arent kooky, he has 1 idea people dont like (national defense) and everything else is "racism" or some equally stupid claim.
Its sad when people consider Liberty, Personal Responsibility and the Constitution as "kooky".

It my opinion that most of his ideas are kooky

everyone is free to have their own opinion

I'm not aware of the voter fraud thing in regards to RP but if you have some info and care to share it I'll look at it
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Shockwave on March 16, 2012, 03:58:30 PM
It my opinion that most of his ideas are kooky

everyone is free to have their own opinion

I'm not aware of the voter fraud thing in regards to RP but if you have some info and care to share it I'll look at it

So in your opinion, you believe that personal liberty, fiscal responsability and free markets are kooky?
Basically, you find the idea that were free to make our own choices and that the government should intrude into our lives as minimally as possible crazy?

I get very scared anytime people who really understand what Paul stands for call his ideas crazy, because youre basically saying that you believe that we should let the government dictate how we run our lives and that were incapable of being resposible for ourselves.

I mean when you really break it down Paul represents everything our founding fathers fought for, and people think he's crazy. Really sad how lost we are.......
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 16, 2012, 04:47:21 PM
So in your opinion, you believe that personal liberty, fiscal responsability and free markets are kooky?
Basically, you find the idea that were free to make our own choices and that the government should intrude into our lives as minimally as possible crazy?

I get very scared anytime people who really understand what Paul stands for call his ideas crazy, because youre basically saying that you believe that we should let the government dictate how we run our lives and that were incapable of being resposible for ourselves.

I mean when you really break it down Paul represents everything our founding fathers fought for, and people think he's crazy. Really sad how lost we are.......

Paul is not the  only one who can "interpret" the  constitution and offer opinions

why don't you ask me which of Pauls ideas that I don't like rather than trying to put words in my mouth

Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Shockwave on March 16, 2012, 04:56:36 PM
Paul is not the  only one who can "interpret" the  constitution and offer opinions

why don't you ask me which of Pauls ideas that I don't like rather than trying to put words in my mouth


Im all ears.

BTW, the Constitution was intentionally written in such a way as to attempt to minimize people's ability to "interperet" it the way they want, its pretty straightforward and lays out the groundwork for a minimalist government who's only role is to make sure that people dont try and take unfair advantage of each other.
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 17, 2012, 09:41:10 AM
Im all ears.

BTW, the Constitution was intentionally written in such a way as to attempt to minimize people's ability to "interperet" it the way they want, its pretty straightforward and lays out the groundwork for a minimalist government who's only role is to make sure that people dont try and take unfair advantage of each other.

there are many things that RP believes that I don't agree with but I'll give you one simple one

FEMA

Why shouldn't the Federal Government have an agency to help deal with disasters/accidents, both natural or man made ?

Every time I hear someone who supports Ron Paul I ask them about this and they seem to not even be aware of it
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2012, 09:42:26 AM
there are many things that RP believes that I don't agree with but I'll give you one simple one

FEMA

Why shouldn't the Federal Government have an agency to help deal with disasters/accidents, both natural or man made ?

Every time I hear someone who supports Ron Paul I ask them about this and they seem to not even be aware of it

Because FEMA is a bloated wasteful mess. 

Katrina anyone? 
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 17, 2012, 09:53:00 AM
Because FEMA is a bloated wasteful mess. 

Katrina anyone? 

Katrina wasn't a problem with FEMA it was a problem with the dipshit POTUS who put another inexperienced dipshit in charge

do me a favor and let Shockwave respond for himself

Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2012, 09:56:13 AM
Katrina wasn't a problem with FEMA it was a problem with the dipshit POTUS who put another inexperienced dipshit in charge

do me a favor and let Shockwave respond for himself



LMFAO! ! ! !   

Are you fucking kidding?   


 
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 17, 2012, 10:00:24 AM
LMFAO! ! ! !   
Are you fucking kidding?   

not kidding but I'm not suprised something so simple is still over your heard

here's your fat hero begging for FEMA money:   http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/31/christie-pushes-congress-to-speed-fema-funding/

now go bump one of your 50,000 thread and let Shockwave respond to my response to him
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2012, 10:01:22 AM
not kidding but I'm not suprised something so simple is still over your heard

here's your fat hero begging for FEMA money:   http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/08/31/christie-pushes-congress-to-speed-fema-funding/

now go bump one of your 50,000 thread and let Shockwave respond to my response to him

I dont give a damn about Christie calling for more spending. 

Katrina trailers and welfare cards anyone? 

FEMA is a complete scam.   
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Shockwave on March 17, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
there are many things that RP believes that I don't agree with but I'll give you one simple one

FEMA

Why shouldn't the Federal Government have an agency to help deal with disasters/accidents, both natural or man made ?

Every time I hear someone who supports Ron Paul I ask them about this and they seem to not even be aware of it
Im not aware of Paul's stance on how he would handle it, but I think it would be far better to have individual states handle it, as the federal government cannot be everywhere at once, and it would probably be far more efficient to have the states handle an emergency situation than have a government program trying to be ready for all situations everywhere.

I agree if he feels FEMA is unecessary, because they are. Fuck, they cant even get people water in an emergency, what fucking good is all the money we dump into them? They have camps, with SUV's mounted with miniguns, multiple person coffins with air tight seals, and yet they cannot even get people water. FEMA isnt designed to help people, its designed to handle a mass breakdown by controlling the population and having a place to stick people and dispose of corpses.

Besides, like 333 said, FEMA was an epic fucking failure all over the place.
Federal government is always the least efficient way of handling things, and they always have the most drastic unneccessary approach that really doesnt handle much of anything.

Did you know when FEMA responded to Katrina victims, the 1st thing they did was take everyones firearms away? Before they gave them shelter, before anything, they made sure to round up the firearms. Like I said earlier, they may have an official stance that FEMA is to support people in need, but if you look at their supplies, its pretty easy to see what their primary mission is, maintaining control of the population during emergencies.
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 17, 2012, 10:11:01 AM
Im not aware of Paul's stance, but I think it would be far better to have individual states handle it, as the federal government cannot be everywhere at once, and it would probably be far more efficient to have the states handle an emergency situation than have a government program trying to be ready for all situations everywhere.

Besides, like 333 said, FEMA was an epic fucking failure all over the place.
Federal government is always the least efficient way of handling things, and they always have the most drastic unneccessary approach that really doesnt handle much of anything.

Did you know when FEMA responded to Katrina victims, the 1st thing they did was take everyones firearms away? Before they gave them shelter, before anything, they made sure to round up the firearms.

why is it the EVERY Ron Paul supporter I talk to is unaware of his position on FEMA ?

Katrrina was a disaster but like I've already said the reasons had mcuh more (like 100%) to do the with the POTUS at the time and the totally unprepared and inexperienced crony that he put in charge of the agency



Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2012, 10:11:54 AM
why is it the EVERY Ron Paul supporter I talk to is unaware of his position on FEMA ?

Katrrina was a disaster but like I've already said the reasons had mcuh more (like 100%) to do the with the POTUS at the time and the totally unprepared and inexperienced crony that he put in charge of the agency






I'm totally aware of his stance and totalyl agree.   FEMA, like 99% of the Federal Govt is wasteful bullshit. 
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Shockwave on March 17, 2012, 10:19:10 AM
why is it the EVERY Ron Paul supporter I talk to is unaware of his position on FEMA ?

Katrrina was a disaster but like I've already said the reasons had mcuh more (like 100%) to do the with the POTUS at the time and the totally unprepared and inexperienced crony that he put in charge of the agency




Maybe because FEMA is pretty low on the priority list of things our country needs to worry about right now?
Pretty sure a failed fucking agency that cant get WATER to people is not really that important considering we cant pay our fucking bills, and while were still in a war.

I know he's against it I just am not aware of what his alternatives are.

How is it the POTUS and the guy running its fault that they couldnt get people fucking water once they were sent in? Sounds like an program failure to me.
And why do we need to fund them miniguns for their bulletproof SUVS?
Camps with concertina wire on the INSIDE of the fence? (To keep people inside)

We need some sort of emergency system but FEMA is definatley not it. FEMA is a fucking failure from top to bottom and should be dismantled.
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 17, 2012, 10:19:51 AM

I'm totally aware of his stance and totalyl agree.   FEMA, like 99% of the Federal Govt is wasteful bullshit

yes and this is a far far far right wing (not even sure if it would qualify as that) stance

we know that neocons hate the governemnt (except for the fat government contracts) and there is CT then when neocons get in office they intentionally do a shitty job and then point out how the governemnt can't do anything right

Funny how FEMA does a good job whenever a Dem is POTUS and also funny how Repubs come begging for FEMA money and assistance as soon a disaster strikes their home district or state

Still - I have to say I'm amazed at the devoted RP fans who are unaware of his position on FEMA

how can you adore the guy and not know his basic policy positions
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2012, 10:22:16 AM
yes and this is a far far far right wing (not even sure if it would qualify as that) stance

we know that neocons hate the governemnt (except for the fat government contracts) and there is CT then when neocons get in office they intentionally do a shitty job and then point out how the governemnt can't do anything right

Funny how FEMA does a good job whenever a Dem is POTUS and also funny how Repubs come begging for FEMA money and assistance as soon a disaster strikes their home district or state

Still - I have to say I'm amazed at the devoted RP fans who are unaware of his position on FEMA

how can you adore the guy and not know his basic policy positions



I know all of his policies.   Why do you repeat bullshit?   I am not a neocon at all.   



BTW - since we have had Demo control from 2009-2011 - can you explain the failures of the govt for me?   
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Straw Man on March 17, 2012, 10:26:38 AM


I know all of his policies.   Why do you repeat bullshit?   I am not a neocon at all.   



BTW - since we have had Demo control from 2009-2011 - can you explain the failures of the govt for me?   

why do you think I'm referring to you in the first place

you're not a neocon or a libertarian or even  RP supporter

you've supported Palin, Cain, Trump, and Vandersloot

you're the president and sole member of the GetBig Idiot Party recently merged with the GetBig Moron party of which you were also the president and sole member
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2012, 10:28:41 AM
why do you think I'm referring to you in the first place

you're not a neocon or a libertarian or even  RP supporter

you've supported Palin, Cain, Trump, and Vandersloot

you're the president and sole member of the GetBig Idiot Party recently merged with the GetBig Moron party of which you were also the president and sole member


I support anyone trashing obama.   And if it came down to Vandersloot or Obama - its Joran all the way.   
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Shockwave on March 17, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
yes and this is a far far far right wing (not even sure if it would qualify as that) stance

we know that neocons hate the governemnt (except for the fat government contracts) and there is CT then when neocons get in office they intentionally do a shitty job and then point out how the governemnt can't do anything right

Funny how FEMA does a good job whenever a Dem is POTUS and also funny how Repubs come begging for FEMA money and assistance as soon a disaster strikes their home district or state

Still - I have to say I'm amazed at the devoted RP fans who are unaware of his position on FEMA

how can you adore the guy and not know his basic policy positions
A.FEMA is not high on the priority list of issues on this election.
B.Hes right, FEMA is bloated and needs to either be totally erased and start over, and cut back to the very basic necessities.
C.Its not about not knowing, everyone knows what his stance on things of this nature are. I personally am aware of his feelings on FEMA, just not on what his idea's are for alternatives, frankly because like I said in point A., its not a high priority for this nation at this point.

To top it off, to act like Paul is going to get all his policies pushed through congress is rediculous, and right now we need his fiscal ideals and his staunch constitutionalism to get this country back on track to its ideals of Personal liberty and fiscal responsability.
Title: Re: Drinking w Bob - We need a revolution now!
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 17, 2012, 10:35:40 AM
A.FEMA is not high on the priority list of issues on this election.
B.Hes right, FEMA is bloated and needs to either be totally erased and start over, and cut back to the very basic necessities.
C.Its not about not knowing, everyone knows what his stance on things of this nature are. I personally am aware of his feelings on FEMA, just not on what his idea's are for alternatives, frankly because like I said in point A., its not a high priority for this nation at this point.

To top it off, to act like Paul is going to get all his policies pushed through congress is rediculous, and right now we need his fiscal ideals and his staunch constitutionalism to get this country back on track to its ideals of Personal liberty and fiscal responsability.


Straw is a far left Keynsian Krugmanite - dont expect him to grasp your points. 


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