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Title: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 20, 2012, 02:28:10 PM
Any Obama splooge drinkers care to take another swing at this? Try doing it by talking about why Obama deserves it instead of why the GOP doesn't.

I await the lack of responses.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: OzmO on March 20, 2012, 03:57:29 PM
for your question, its unfortunate because there aren't any real legit OB supports here that could carry out a reasonable argument.  For must its just a Ad hom venture.  I would welcome a real debate about it free from derailment and i even would filter the ad hom out on this thread.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: magikusar on March 20, 2012, 09:32:10 PM
Any Obama splooge drinkers care to take another swing at this? Try doing it by talking about why Obama deserves it instead of why the GOP doesn't.

I await the lack of responses.

lolz
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 20, 2012, 09:41:26 PM
lolz

the only issue thar Obama voters will make is that Romney will be worse than Obama in that with a GOP house and probably GOP senate, Romney will get 2 picks on TJE court and not be restrained by TJE congress.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: whork on March 21, 2012, 04:39:25 AM
Any Obama splooge drinkers care to take another swing at this? Try doing it by talking about why Obama deserves it instead of why the GOP doesn't.

I await the lack of responses.

Haha let me try then since nobody else has the balls ;)

1. He killed Bin Laden.

2. No wars created.

3. Improving economy(compared to 2008 at least)
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: whork on March 21, 2012, 04:46:55 AM


So Bin Laden is still alive?

Obama has started more wars than Bush?

The economy was better in 2008?
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 04:49:40 AM
Post back when you leave puberty please ;)

So Bin Laden is still alive?

Obama has started more wars than Bush?

The economy was better in 2008?

Egypt, Yemen, lybia, doubled afganistan. 


Had nothing to do OBL. 

Economy is still a disaster w more debt in 3 years than bush in 8.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: whork on March 21, 2012, 05:09:14 AM
Egypt, Yemen, lybia, doubled afganistan. 


Had nothing to do OBL. 

Economy is still a disaster w more debt in 3 years than bush in 8.

How many american soldiers has died in Egypt, Yemen and Lybia? Obamas warfare is way more intelligent than Bush/GOP(Drones anyone?).

Bush started 2 wars and fucked up our economy to catch OBL but Obama failed where Bush succeded.

The economy is better than in 2008 so the economy has improved on his watch.

Like it or not Obama is WAY better than you give him credit for. He is a corrupt dirtbag but since RP wont be a contender is doesnt matter because his opponents are just as dirty.




Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2012, 05:12:37 AM
Had nothing to do OBL. 

President Obama had nothing to do with Bin Laden getting capped?
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Shockwave on March 21, 2012, 09:16:29 AM
Obama has nothing to do with the op except to say yes.
And he had no other choice BUT to say yes IMHO.
I didnt applaud Bush for doing nothing and getting Hussein, I dont applaud Obama for doing less than Bush but still grabbing OBL.
Military brought a plan to Obama. Obama said yes (under duress, both of the public finding out if he said no, and by his staff). End of story. Anyone trying to make this into more than it is is just as much of an idiot as anyone else.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2012, 10:04:11 AM
Obama has nothing to do with the op except to say yes.

LMAO.....   Well, some would say the commander-in-chief giving the "YES" to pull the trigger on the most wanted terrorist in the world after the American president spent 8 years not doing it as kind of having something to do with it.  But you say Obama had NOTHING to do with OBL. 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 10:05:42 AM
LMAO.....   Well, some would say the commander-in-chief giving the "YES" to pull the trigger on the most wanted terrorist in the world after the American president spent 8 years not doing it as kind of having something to do with it.  But you say Obama had NOTHING to do with OBL. 

 ::)  ::)

Were you as gleeful in 2004 to re-elect Bush based upon our getting KSM? 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Shockwave on March 21, 2012, 10:06:25 AM
LMAO.....   Well, some would say the commander-in-chief giving the "YES" to pull the trigger on the most wanted terrorist in the world after the American president spent 8 years not doing it as kind of having something to do with it.  But you say Obama had NOTHING to do with OBL.  
Wow, youre a fucking idiot. Yes, when your admin comes to you with a military plan to get the most wanted terrorist in the world, saying NO is definatley an option.  ::)
After 8 years of saying no? Really? Are you that fucking stupid?

I dont want to hear any bullshit about not informing Pakistan being some sort of big deal, we go into countries all the time without their permission, he didnt do anything "outrageous" or "daring", it was pretty much SOP for our Special Forces.  ::)
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 21, 2012, 10:08:44 AM
So he got Bin Laden. OK. Does that warrant another 4 years in office? I don't really see how it could.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 21, 2012, 10:12:15 AM
Wow, youre a fucking idiot. Yes, when your admin comes to you with a military plan to get the most wanted terrorist in the world, saying NO is definatley an option.  ::)
After 8 years of saying no? Really? Are you that fucking stupid?

I dont want to hear any bullshit about not informing Pakistan being some sort of big deal, we go into countries all the time without their permission, he didnt do anything "outrageous" or "daring", it was pretty much SOP for our Special Forces.  ::)

From what I've read, there's a really good chance that someone in Pakistan knew what was going down. Now was it the ISI? Not likely. But Pakistan's president, among other people, was most likely aware of what was happening. He may have been told at the last possible moment but someone knew as they would've buried it had it gone wrong.

Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Shockwave on March 21, 2012, 10:16:28 AM
From what I've read, there's a really good chance that someone in Pakistan knew what was going down. Now was it the ISI? Not likely. But Pakistan's president, among other people, was most likely aware of what was happening. He may have been told at the last possible moment but someone knew as they would've buried it had it gone wrong.


Evidently Bush said "no" to Op's to get OBL for 8 years, but Obama came along and righted 8 years of wrongs with a single "yes"  ::) ::)
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: whork on March 21, 2012, 10:26:25 AM
I dislike Obama because he is in the pocket of Wall Street (Larry Summers anyone), but his foreign policy seems solid.


Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 10:27:30 AM
I dislike Obama because he is in the pocket of Wall Street (Larry Summers anyone), but his foreign policy seems solid.




LOL!!!!!   And you are RP supporter? 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: whork on March 21, 2012, 10:28:36 AM
LOL!!!!!   And you are RP supporter? 

I will support RP over Obama any day(who wouldnt ???) but im not a drone
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 10:37:18 AM
I will support RP over Obama any day(who wouldnt ???) but im not a drone

Speaking of Drones - you are ok with obama's drone strikes on civilians? 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: whork on March 21, 2012, 10:40:43 AM
Speaking of Drones - you are ok with obama's drone strikes on civilians? 

Hell no
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Emmortal on March 21, 2012, 11:20:59 AM
How many american soldiers has died in Egypt, Yemen and Lybia? Obamas warfare is way more intelligent than Bush/GOP(Drones anyone?).

Bush started 2 wars and fucked up our economy to catch OBL but Obama failed where Bush succeded.

The economy is better than in 2008 so the economy has improved on his watch.

Like it or not Obama is WAY better than you give him credit for. He is a corrupt dirtbag but since RP wont be a contender is doesnt matter because his opponents are just as dirty.


Obama wouldn't make a decision to take out OBL, Paneta and top military advisors along with Clinton pretty much forced him to do it because he was stalling for months.

Secondly, the drone program was set up in 2007 by the Bush administration, it was just carried on and used by the current admin.

Saying the economy is better in 2008 is like saying to someone who has cancer: "Hey at least you don't have AIDS!"
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2012, 11:30:40 AM
Any Obama splooge drinkers care to take another swing at this? Try doing it by talking about why Obama deserves it instead of why the GOP doesn't.

I await the lack of responses.

don't you have any friends in real life that you can ask your stupid questions ?

Obama will deserve re-election is he wins the election

check back on November 6th, 2012 and you'll find out if he deserved another term
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Grape Ape on March 21, 2012, 11:31:21 AM
for your question, its unfortunate because there aren't any real legit OB supports here that could carry out a reasonable argument.  For must its just a Ad hom venture.  I would welcome a real debate about it free from derailment and i even would filter the ad hom out on this thread.



I think KC could carry out a legitimate discussion.  Not saying I'd agree with him, but he can better than the others.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 11:36:41 AM
don't you have any friends in real life that you can ask your stupid questions ?

Obama will deserve re-election is he wins the election

check back on November 6th, 2012 and you'll find out if he deserved another term

Really?  Did you feel Bush DESERVED re-election in 2004 because he was re-elected? 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: headhuntersix on March 21, 2012, 11:41:02 AM
How many american soldiers has died in Egypt, Yemen and Lybia? Obamas warfare is way more intelligent than Bush/GOP(Drones anyone?).

Bush started 2 wars and fucked up our economy to catch OBL but Obama failed where Bush succeded.

The economy is better than in 2008 so the economy has improved on his watch.

Like it or not Obama is WAY better than you give him credit for. He is a corrupt dirtbag but since RP wont be a contender is doesnt matter because his opponents are just as dirty.


Bush didn't "start" shit...and Iraq ended by a plan drawn up under Bush...not Barry.  Barry didn't want to get Bin Laden...he went kicking and screaming. Egypt and Libya have destabilized an already fucked up region. Barry makes one mistake after another....get your head out of your ass. RP is a joke.


Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2012, 11:52:15 AM
Really?  Did you feel Bush DESERVED re-election in 2004 because he was re-elected? 

if you believe he legitimately won the election (I do not) then he deserved his 2nd term

There is no "deserving" in elections

You either win or you don't

that's all that matters
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 21, 2012, 11:54:52 AM
if you believe he legitimately won the election (I do not) then he deserved his 2nd term

There is no "deserving" in elections

You either win or you don't

that's all that matters

All you have is word games. Substitute "warrant" for "deserve" and take a swing, retard.  ::)

Kind of telling that you have to play word games and can't actually give valid reasons, though.

don't you have any friends in real life that you can ask your stupid questions ?

Obama will deserve re-election is he wins the election

check back on November 6th, 2012 and you'll find out if he deserved another term

Waaah. Stupid question yet you felt compelled to post in this thread. If you don't like it then fuck off, Bubble Boy. Believe me when I say that no one on this board cares about anything you have to say. Despite that fantasy of yours, you're a nobody whose opinion isn't worth dick.  :)



Carry on with obfuscating the thread and your crying.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2012, 11:59:51 AM
All you have is word games. Substitute "warrant" for "deserve" and take a swing, retard.  ::)

Kind of telling that you have to play word games and can't actually give valid reasons, though.

Stupid question yet you felt compelled to post in this thread. Thanks for gracing us with your presence, Bubble Boy.



Carry on with obfuscating the thread and your crying.

who is crying?

just pointing out the absurdity of your premise

btw - you should learn the definition of the word obfuscate before using it

no one is "awarded" POTUS based on merit or deserving it


Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 12:02:17 PM
Straw - you are a joke.   Stop being a leftist dweeb playing semantics.

Tell me why you are voting for obama in 2012? 

Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 21, 2012, 12:02:55 PM
who is crying?

just pointing out the absurdity of your premise

btw - you should learn the definition of the word obfuscate before using it

no one is "awarded" POTUS based on merit or deserving it




ob·fus·cate   [ob-fuh-skeyt, ob-fuhs-keyt]  Show IPA
verb (used with object), -cat·ed, -cat·ing.
1. to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
2. to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
3. to darken.



Here's an idea, if you don't like it then fuck off out of the thread. No one gives a fuck about you, bubble boy. You're not special. Your opinion isn't valued. And your crying like a scorned little girl certainly isn't wanted.





Your responses in this thread say a lot, by the way. You're completely incapable of providing a single reason as to why he WARRANTS reelection.  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2012, 12:04:13 PM
ob·fus·cate   [ob-fuh-skeyt, ob-fuhs-keyt]  Show IPA
verb (used with object), -cat·ed, -cat·ing.
1. to confuse, bewilder, or stupefy.
2. to make obscure or unclear: to obfuscate a problem with extraneous information.
3. to darken.



Here's an idea, if you don't like it then fuck off out of the thread. No one gives a fuck about you, bubble boy. You're not special. Your opinion isn't valued. And your whining certainly isn't wanted.





Your responses in this thread say a lot, by the way. You're completely incapable of providing a single reason as to why he WARRANTS reelection.  :D :D :D :D

I see

I guess you're confused

that seems to happen alot with you
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 21, 2012, 12:05:35 PM
I see

I guess you're confused

that seems to happen alot with you

for your question, its unfortunate because there aren't any real legit OB supports here that could carry out a reasonable argument.  For must its just a Ad hom venture.  I would welcome a real debate about it free from derailment and i even would filter the ad hom out on this thread.

If you're not going to answer the question then fuck off, bubble boy. Your childish little games in every thread criticizing Obama have grown quite old.

Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2012, 12:09:47 PM
If you're not going to answer the question then fuck off, bubble boy. Your childish little games in every thread criticizing Obama have grown quite old.

can't be answered until election day

if he wins then he deserves it

happy now?
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 21, 2012, 12:11:23 PM
can't be answered until election day

if he wins then he deserves it

happy now?

Thanks for your contribution to this thread.  ::)

Feel free to fuck off now, Bubble Boy. No need for you to try to make yourself the center of attention in yet another thread.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 12:12:17 PM
can't be answered until election day

if he wins then he deserves it

happy now?

You really are an idiot.  Did oj deserve to be set free because the jury said so?   
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 21, 2012, 12:13:41 PM
You really are an idiot.  Did oj deserve to be set free because the jury said so?   

He has no reasons to give so he wants to play word games. His response says everything that needs to be said about the Usurper's presidency.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2012, 12:16:05 PM
You really are an idiot.  Did oj deserve to be set free because the jury said so?    

entirely different premise but the answer is still basically yes

the prosecution did not convince the jury of his guilt

that's how the system works

I'm really suprised that at 35 years old you still haven't learned this basic stuff
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2012, 12:27:52 PM
He has no reasons to give so he wants to play word games. His response says everything that needs to be said about the Usurper's presidency.

did you think he deserved his first term?

Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 12:30:34 PM
did you think he deserved his first term?



Hell no ! ! ! ! 

You idiots should have rallied behind Hillary who would have been a more responsible choice. 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 21, 2012, 12:33:27 PM
Hell no ! ! ! ! 

You idiots should have rallied behind Hillary who would have been a more responsible choice. 

and yet he won the election in a landslide

that's how we decide who deserves to be POTUS in this country

if you don't like it then run a better a candidate or move somewhere else
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 21, 2012, 12:35:45 PM
and yet he won the election in a landslide

that's how we decide who deserves to be POTUS in this country

if you don't like it then run a better a candidate or move somewhere else

Yeah - a product of lies, empty rhetoric, cliche and platitudes, manipulation, fraud, 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: OzmO on March 21, 2012, 10:08:27 PM
Ok guys stay on topic.

We are not debating the language of the thread here.

1.  If you don't think OB should be re-elected state why
2.  If you think OB should  be elected state why
3.  If you agree or disagree with  statements from 1 or 2 state why.

Stop the ad hom in your arguments.

Try to have a straight forward debate please. 

Thanks.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Emmortal on March 22, 2012, 12:57:40 AM
Ok guys stay on topic.

We are not debating the language of the thread here.

1.  If you don't think OB should be re-elected state why
2.  If you think OB should  be elected state why
3.  If you agree or disagree with  statements from 1 or 2 state why.

Stop the ad hom in your arguments.

Try to have a straight forward debate please. 

Thanks.

I can't honestly think of a valid reason why he should be elected.  The problem is that I can't think of a single reason why any of the GOP runners should be elected either other than they aren't Obama, which isn't a strong enough case for me personally.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: whork on March 22, 2012, 03:40:40 AM


So you really think we would be better of with another 8 years of Bush?

And you would prefer him over RP?
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Shockwave on March 22, 2012, 05:44:49 AM
I can't honestly think of a valid reason why he should be elected.  The problem is that I can't think of a single reason why any of the GOP runners should be elected either other than they aren't Obama, which isn't a strong enough case for me personally.
This.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: 240 is Back on March 22, 2012, 08:26:20 AM
::)  ::)

Were you as gleeful in 2004 to re-elect Bush based upon our getting KSM? 

check your history, stud.  in 2004, I was the biggest Bush zombie on here.  I was bashing john kerry 24/7.  hugo and other getbiggers from the general board (there was no political board at the time) can verify this.

it was only in early 2005 (when I learned of the 911 fishiness) that I started bashing repubs for their shady ass antics.  I was very much a Bush kneepadder up until then, a single issue voter.

33, were you on the general board back then?  I was half the reason we created the politics board, lol, cause I kept putting so much of that garbage on the general board.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 22, 2012, 09:14:13 AM
Ok guys stay on topic.

We are not debating the language of the thread here.

1.  If you don't think OB should be re-elected state why
2.  If you think OB should  be elected state why
3.  If you agree or disagree with  statements from 1 or 2 state why.

Stop the ad hom in your arguments.

Try to have a straight forward debate please. 

Thanks.

the premise of the question makes no sense

we decide "deservability" in this country by having elections

anyone who thinks Obama does not deserve a second term will not vote for him and if enough of those people don't vote for him and he loses then he doesn't deserve a second term

If you can't convince enough people to vote for you then you don't deserve the job and vice versa
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2012, 09:16:06 AM
the premise of the question makes no sense

we decide "deservability" in this country by having elections

anyone who thinks Obama does not deserve a second term will not vote for him and if enough of those people don't vote for him and he loses then he doesn't deserve a second term

If you can't convince enough people to vote for you then you don't deserve the job and vice versa


You really are a dope.   Stop the semantics and be straight up.  We know you are a hard left obamabot, so the least you can do is give some reasons why you plan on voting for him in November.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 22, 2012, 09:23:39 AM
You really are a dope.   Stop the semantics and be straight up.  We know you are a hard left obamabot, so the least you can do is give some reasons why you plan on voting for him in November.

only need one

same as last time

the alternative is worse

Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2012, 09:26:30 AM
only need one

same as last time

the alternative is worse



How is Romney worse than Obama? 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2012, 09:32:54 AM


So again - not a single sentence as to defend the actions of this president who you voted for and plan on doing so again.  

Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 22, 2012, 09:35:14 AM
How is Romney worse than Obama?  

Romney is on all sides of all issues

As Huntsman put it:  He's a perfectly lubricated weathervane

I believe he would be worse on both economic and social issues

He's also an unabashed liar

Bottom line - I don't trust him
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2012, 09:41:11 AM
So again - not one single defense of obama's policies. 

Got it. 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2012, 10:04:40 AM
Oh look, the 333 Stalking Brigade shitting all over another thread. Apparently Ozmo's post saying to keep the ad homs out of this thread really rang home with his followers.  ::)

That is all the obama drones have - petty childish fits and a refusal to openly discuss any of the policies pursued by this disaster in the WH 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: magikusar on March 22, 2012, 10:19:49 AM
Romney is on all sides of all issues

As Huntsman put it:  He's a perfectly lubricated weathervane

I believe he would be worse on both economic and social issues

He's also an unabashed liar

Bottom line - I don't trust him


He is on 1 side of 1 issue: spending -- do less!!  that should be enuf for 99% of america!!
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 22, 2012, 10:52:13 AM
So you have not one policy or "achievement" you are defending of obama, merely that you distrust mittens? 

I could list a bunch of things but then you'll just rant and rave for 5 pages saying the same things we've heard from you for the last 4 years

What's the point ?

As I've said, on voting day it will still come down the to lesser of two evils
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2012, 10:56:00 AM
I could list a bunch of things but then you'll just rant and rave for 5 pages saying the same things we've heard from you for the last 4 years

What's the point ?

As I've said, on voting day it will still come down the to lesser of two evils

Considering Obama has really been Bush's 3rd term on steroids, wouldnt it make sense to vote for mittens for the chance of change you never got in 2008 that you were promised? 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 22, 2012, 11:05:06 AM
Considering Obama has really been Bush's 3rd term on steroids, wouldnt it make sense to vote for mittens for the chance of change you never got in 2008 that you were promised? 

I guess that must mean you think Bush was also trying to collapse the nation

why would Bush want to do that ?

to avenge what we did to his father like Obama?
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 22, 2012, 11:16:58 AM
I guess that must mean you think Bush was also trying to collapse the nation

why would Bush want to do that ?

to avenge what we did to his father like Obama?

George Bush was a fiscal socialist, a NWO open borders RINO piece of garbage, and had little or no concern for most taxpayers. 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: OzmO on March 22, 2012, 06:15:15 PM
Ok guys stay on topic.

We are not debating the language of the thread here.

1.  If you don't think OB should be re-elected state why
2.  If you think OB should  be elected state why
3.  If you agree or disagree with  statements from 1 or 2 state why.


Stop the ad hom in your arguments.

Try to have a straight forward debate please. 

Thanks.

Why is this so hard to understand?  If you have that much of a problem doing this, stay off the thread. 


If you cant help yourself, I will just ban you altogether.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: whork on March 23, 2012, 03:43:36 AM
George Bush was a fiscal socialist, a NWO open borders RINO piece of garbage, and had little or no concern for most taxpayers. 

You think Romney is better?
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: OzmO on March 23, 2012, 06:52:03 AM
The lack of legit participation in this thread tells me there arent too many OB supporters here.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 23, 2012, 06:54:05 AM
The lack of legit participation in this thread tells me there arent too many OB supporters here.

There are plenty - but they support him for emotional reasons, not logical or factual reasons they can articulate in any fashion. 

That is why they resort to petty attacks and insults. 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: OzmO on March 23, 2012, 07:05:15 AM
There are plenty - but they support him for emotional reasons, not logical or factual reasons they can articulate in any fashion. 

That is why they resort to petty attacks and insults. 

Yeah I see that to a certain extent outside this forum too.  Unfortunately, I still think he is going to get reelected.  This GOP circus is mainly to blame combined with the perception and reporting among many that the Econ is getting better. Did you see on drudge where Santorum said it would be better to reelected OB than elect Romney ?
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 23, 2012, 07:10:09 AM
Yeah I see that to a certain extent outside this forum too.  Unfortunately, I still think he is going to get reelected.  This GOP circus is mainly to blame combined with the perception and reporting among many that the Econ is getting better. Did you see on drudge where Santorum said it would be better to reelected OB than elect Romney ?

Yes, and i see little or no difference w romney or Obama.  The only good thing is that if Obama gets a second term and squeeks by and the gop gets a few more seats - his second term will totally end the democrats altogether and maybe we will get to the bottom of fast and furious and the birth certificate issue . 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: OzmO on March 23, 2012, 07:15:15 AM
You know, if he does get a second term, I doubt that, if he really wasn't born here, we will ever know.   I don't see our government embarrassing itself and tarnishing the office like that and wouldn't put it pass them to hide it.  But again, based on what I have seen and researched he was born here. 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 23, 2012, 07:18:19 AM
You know, if he does get a second term, I doubt that, if he really wasn't born here, we will ever know.   I don't see our government embarrassing itself and tarnishing the office like that and wouldn't put it pass them to hide it.  But again, based on what I have seen and researched he was born here. 

Has obama even articulated what he wants to do in the next 4 years?  So far, all I have seen is that he wants another push for amnesty for illegals. 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: George Whorewell on March 23, 2012, 08:19:32 AM

1. Osamacare-- It is going to bankrupt the already bankrupt republic, destroy personal liberty, force people onto a government system, tax us into oblivion and fundamentally change this country for the worse. The fact that this piece of shit was passed using lies, deception and back room deals despite the American public's strong opposition to it demonstrates exactly why Osama cannot get 4 more years.

2. Cabinet Appointments-- Van Jones, Janet Napolitano, Time Geithner, Steven Chu, Kathleen Sebilius, Leon Panetta and last but not least Eric Holder. This horror show of braindead/ fanatical leftist incompetents should be reason enough to deny the commander in chump a second term. Not to gloss over the numerous gaffes, scandals and proclamations of idiocy-- but I could literally use up all of the bandwith on this website recounting each and every one.

3. Osama isn't running for re-election again- There will be nothing to stop Osama from furthering his already out of control socialist agenda. He will likely get another Supreme Court appointment. He will 100% keep pushing the green energy hoax and continue to ramp up the EPA's power. He will undoubtedly continue his assault on the private sector, increase spending, increase the size of government and continue to use the constitution as toilet paper. With nothing to lose, Osama goes from an empty suit who hates America to a  treasonous dictator intent on destroying America.  

4. Division within the country: Under what was supposed to be the most transparent administration in history, America is more divided than ever. Racial divisions are more pronounced and the mood of the country is somewhere between despair and indifference. Osama never met a teleprompter he didn't like-- Every chance he gets he tells the GOP to be civil and courteous-- that polite discourse is important. Meanwhile he says that Republicans want dirty air and water, they want to throw grandma off healthcare and they are intentionally trying to make the economy worse.  He also conveniently ignores the fact that his party is jam packed with the most disgusting, dishonest and toxic voices in the political arena today. When pandering to Latin voters he says they should "punish their enemies"... etc. etc.--> I could also recount his class warfare nonsense and his personal vendetta against the Catholic church-- but I digress

5. The Stimulus- Nuff said

6. Personal Associations- If it quacks like a duck, its a duck. Ayers, Doorn, Wright, Derick Bell, Rezko and on and on and on. When you take his personal history into account with his friends, mentors and the legislation he has supported and enacted, you would have to be a fucking idiot to think he is anything but a radical socialist piece of garbage who is intent on destroying the United States.

7. Foreign Policy- Destroying our nukes while doing nothing to address Iran's or NK's-- going into Libya for no good reason and not doing anything about Syria or Iran, kissing the asses of the Chinese and Russians while abandoning our allies, apologizing to the world for America's greatness, his pathetic and moronic attempts at "outeach" to Islamic countries, his continued support of the Palestinian terrorist state ( our tax dollars are actually funding a green building project in Gaza-- to make their government offices more friendly to the environment), his visceral hatred for Israel except at fundraisers-- I could continue for weeks.

8. His only success as President came riding the coatails of GW Bush, you know-- the same policies that the left attacked Bush for implementing during his entire tenure as President.

9. If you still need another reason, you're a moron.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2012, 08:29:46 AM
1. Osamacare-- It is going to bankrupt the already bankrupt republic, destroy personal liberty, force people onto a government system, tax us into oblivion and fundamentally change this country for the worse. The fact that this piece of shit was passed using lies, deception and back room deals despite the American public's strong opposition to it demonstrates exactly why Osama cannot get 4 more years.

2. Cabinet Appointments-- Van Jones, Janet Napolitano, Time Geithner, Steven Chu, Kathleen Sebilius, Leon Panetta and last but not least Eric Holder. This horror show of braindead/ fanatical leftist incompetents should be reason enough to deny the commander in chump a second term. Not to gloss over the numerous gaffes, scandals and proclamations of idiocy-- but I could literally use up all of the bandwith on this website recounting each and every one.

3. Osama isn't running for re-election again- There will be nothing to stop Osama from furthering his already out of control socialist agenda. He will likely get another Supreme Court appointment. He will 100% keep pushing the green energy hoax and continue to ramp up the EPA's power. He will undoubtedly continue his assault on the private sector, increase spending, increase the size of government and continue to use the constitution as toilet paper. With nothing to lose, Osama goes from an empty suit who hates America to a  treasonous dictator intent on destroying America.  

4. Division within the country: Under what was supposed to be the most transparent administration in history, America is more divided than ever. Racial divisions are more pronounced and the mood of the country is somewhere between despair and indifference. Osama never met a teleprompter he didn't like-- Every chance he gets he tells the GOP to be civil and courteous-- that polite discourse is important. Meanwhile he says that Republicans want dirty air and water, they want to throw grandma off healthcare and they are intentionally trying to make the economy worse.  He also conveniently ignores the fact that his party is jam packed with the most disgusting, dishonest and toxic voices in the political arena today. When pandering to Latin voters he says they should "punish their enemies"... etc. etc.--> I could also recount his class warfare nonsense and his personal vendetta against the Catholic church-- but I digress

5. The Stimulus- Nuff said

6. Personal Associations- If it quacks like a duck, its a duck. Ayers, Doorn, Wright, Derick Bell, Rezko and on and on and on. When you take his personal history into account with his friends, mentors and the legislation he has supported and enacted, you would have to be a fucking idiot to think he is anything but a radical socialist piece of garbage who is intent on destroying the United States.

7. Foreign Policy- Destroying our nukes while doing nothing to address Iran's or NK's-- going into Libya for no good reason and not doing anything about Syria or Iran, kissing the asses of the Chinese and Russians while abandoning our allies, apologizing to the world for America's greatness, his pathetic and moronic attempts at "outeach" to Islamic countries, his continued support of the Palestinian terrorist state ( our tax dollars are actually funding a green building project in Gaza-- to make their government offices more friendly to the environment), his visceral hatred for Israel except at fundraisers-- I could continue for weeks.

8. His only success as President came riding the coatails of GW Bush, you know-- the same policies that the left attacked Bush for implementing during his entire tenure as President.

9. If you still need another reason, you're a moron.

and most of those are exactly why he "desereves" another term

by "deserve" I mean why more people will vote for him over his opponent
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Fury on March 23, 2012, 09:26:28 AM
1. Osamacare-- It is going to bankrupt the already bankrupt republic, destroy personal liberty, force people onto a government system, tax us into oblivion and fundamentally change this country for the worse. The fact that this piece of shit was passed using lies, deception and back room deals despite the American public's strong opposition to it demonstrates exactly why Osama cannot get 4 more years.

2. Cabinet Appointments-- Van Jones, Janet Napolitano, Time Geithner, Steven Chu, Kathleen Sebilius, Leon Panetta and last but not least Eric Holder. This horror show of braindead/ fanatical leftist incompetents should be reason enough to deny the commander in chump a second term. Not to gloss over the numerous gaffes, scandals and proclamations of idiocy-- but I could literally use up all of the bandwith on this website recounting each and every one.

3. Osama isn't running for re-election again- There will be nothing to stop Osama from furthering his already out of control socialist agenda. He will likely get another Supreme Court appointment. He will 100% keep pushing the green energy hoax and continue to ramp up the EPA's power. He will undoubtedly continue his assault on the private sector, increase spending, increase the size of government and continue to use the constitution as toilet paper. With nothing to lose, Osama goes from an empty suit who hates America to a  treasonous dictator intent on destroying America.  

4. Division within the country: Under what was supposed to be the most transparent administration in history, America is more divided than ever. Racial divisions are more pronounced and the mood of the country is somewhere between despair and indifference. Osama never met a teleprompter he didn't like-- Every chance he gets he tells the GOP to be civil and courteous-- that polite discourse is important. Meanwhile he says that Republicans want dirty air and water, they want to throw grandma off healthcare and they are intentionally trying to make the economy worse.  He also conveniently ignores the fact that his party is jam packed with the most disgusting, dishonest and toxic voices in the political arena today. When pandering to Latin voters he says they should "punish their enemies"... etc. etc.--> I could also recount his class warfare nonsense and his personal vendetta against the Catholic church-- but I digress

5. The Stimulus- Nuff said

6. Personal Associations- If it quacks like a duck, its a duck. Ayers, Doorn, Wright, Derick Bell, Rezko and on and on and on. When you take his personal history into account with his friends, mentors and the legislation he has supported and enacted, you would have to be a fucking idiot to think he is anything but a radical socialist piece of garbage who is intent on destroying the United States.

7. Foreign Policy- Destroying our nukes while doing nothing to address Iran's or NK's-- going into Libya for no good reason and not doing anything about Syria or Iran, kissing the asses of the Chinese and Russians while abandoning our allies, apologizing to the world for America's greatness, his pathetic and moronic attempts at "outeach" to Islamic countries, his continued support of the Palestinian terrorist state ( our tax dollars are actually funding a green building project in Gaza-- to make their government offices more friendly to the environment), his visceral hatred for Israel except at fundraisers-- I could continue for weeks.

8. His only success as President came riding the coatails of GW Bush, you know-- the same policies that the left attacked Bush for implementing during his entire tenure as President.

9. If you still need another reason, you're a moron.

Great post. Don't expect the drones to actually refute it.

This guy will go down as the worst president this country has ever seen.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Straw Man on March 23, 2012, 09:39:58 AM
Great post. Don't expect the drones to actually refute it.

This guy will go down as the worst president this country has ever seen.

I already did

I said many of those things will be the reason why people vote for him again

Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: George Whorewell on March 23, 2012, 09:19:04 PM
So, in sum-- many so called Americans hate America or are too stupid to pay attention to the details.

I guess we finally agree on something.

However, this doesn't make up for your support of the ball washing initiative in Africa.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: OzmO on March 24, 2012, 08:24:15 AM
Complaining about the futility of debating with certain people is not debating about why Obama should or shouldn't be elected. 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 24, 2012, 08:37:53 AM
Ok.  Here is the list.  and i will add to it.  But this is off the top of my head at this moment.

1.  ObamaCare
2.  Attempted Cap n Trade
3.  KSM Trial in NYC
4.  Fast N Furious
5.  Solyndra, Beacon Watt, Lightsquared, Spectra, etc
6.  War on Coal
7.  War on Boeing
8.  War on Gibson Guitars
9.  EPA run amok
10.  Stim Bill
11.  Dodd Frank
12.  Radical appointments like Chu, Dunn, Holder, Sunstein, Jones, Lisa Jackson, etc
13.  Sotomayor and Kagan
14.  War on veterans and soldiers by hiking TriCare premiums
15.  Bowing to foreign leaders
16.  World apology tour
17.  Lybia & Egypt disasters
18.  Giving Russia nuke secrets and dismantling out nukes
19.  DOJ out of control
20.  Suing states over voter ID laws and immigration laws
21.  Keystone pipeline.
22.  Drilling moratoriums
23.  Geithner, Summers, Gentsler, Corzine, Liew, Rattner, etc.
24.  27 czars
25.  Incompetent handling of Afghanistan
26.  Rejected Simpson Bowles debt/deficit downgrade
27.  No budget in three years
28.  NLRB out of control
29.  Enhanced and expanded the Patriot Act
30.  NDAA
31.  Can't work with others. 
32.  Issues divisive speeches daily that erodes any chance of progress on key issues.
33.  Wants amnesty for illegals in a second term.
   
 
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Shockwave on March 24, 2012, 08:40:43 AM
I already did

I said many of those things will be the reason why people vote for him again


Wow...
Lots of self-hating morons out there evidently then.
Title: Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 24, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
34.  Abuses the taxpayer w frequent vacations and trips for the wife, the kids, etc. 
35.  MCAT and CO2 rules via the EPA
36.  Consumer Agency and Cordray
37.  DOL appointment Hilda Solis
38.  Banning lightbulbs
39.  Banning asthma inhalers
40.  Auto bailouts
41.  No prosecution of Major Hassan
42.  1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood
43.  Tried to go to copenhagen to force global climate deal
44.  Embarassed the nation trying to get the olympics in Chicago to benefit Jarrett
45.  Radical associations to terrorists and criminals