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Title: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 21, 2012, 07:08:03 PM
a better understanding for the question asked all the time to me,, pay attention to it ,, do not ask me this again in milion pms ,, i write it here ,, i do it before eating sushi andi jsut came from training,, so pay attention!

in bodybuild we have cutting hormones and bulking hormones,,

what does it mean ? it mean the hormone will manipulate the water look of your body and will either burn fat and reduce water betwen skin and muscle...yes yes burn fat and decrease water this is in case of so call cutting hormones... or... increase estrogen and water between skin and muscle,,to a lesser degree fat,,this is in the case of bulkking hormones

now,,

if you take a hormone like primobolana ,, legit primoboana and legit trenbolona...yuo will notie you can do whatever you want ...you can eat sushi all day and german and jamaicakaka...wont matter you will start getting sculpted ...THAT IS WHAT WE CALL CUTT! you will start getting water out from between skin and muscle if those hormones ar legit...and the LINES will come out more and more clear...ofcourse testoserona will ruin it ...but thats why you cycle it right into such cycles so it only ehnance it ,, now this is true to ANY ONE NO MATER WHAT...

you will notice how your 215lb go down to 205 lb yet you loo bigger ,, you get more compliments ,, you get asked if you compete by any one around you ,, and the whores are tinginling down there...this is what we call the primobolana/tren look or you can also achieve it with the t-met combo mentioned in bible ,,

you may be 200lb but you will look 100 time sbetter than when you were 220lb mm you will ! be bigger for muslce will remain same size and water and fat go down down ...while muscle remain same size it was while water and fat were on you ....inother words yuo only lose water and fat....to make it enhanced to the maimus disgustimus bodybuild 2000 you will have to have insulina and gh ...which ofcourse in high doses create the pacotitos   and ofcourse kil bodybuild and ruined it

now..

when you talk about bulk hormones...you talk dianabola.... testosterona in high doses.... you talk estrogenic compounds that no matter what ...on them you will hold water between skin and muscle and even if you eat clean you will HOLD WATER BETWEEN SKIN AND MUSCLE and fat will increase...not as much as the water..but it will,, this is a look bodybuild of old generation was TERRIFIED OF! but now day due to hgh in high dose and insulina abuse ...no one care anymore for they know....
hgh insulina hgh insulina high doses...then bring the trenbolona and primobolana in high doses....take out hgh and you get a conditioned bodybuild that is fucked up with seperation department due to ....INSULINA ABUSE


so,, to conclude this,,

when you alwyas sit in your bathroom and wonder how come timmy and rico have their 6 pack showing and they have their horse shoe nice with the veins in the delts poping...how come their chest look like it has shelves ....when you sit ther wonder this...always remember...rico and timmy are on trenbolona and primobolana...they are using CUT hormones inorder to pull the water out...and yes primobolana pull the water out! together with trenbolona and masterona ...they pull the water out! from within the skin and leave muscle to be more conditioned by the day sometimes by the HOUR! ,, ofcourse to se it to a higher degree you will have to get off the gh ...sincde gh especialy generic...willl make you hold some water even after 6-8 weeks when water drops...gh still make you hold some! water it has to be out to see the cut drugs in their glory ...this is what will create the bodybuild look you so want and so wish for ...fellas like flinstons sudenly will discover...that under the layer of flab of water bloat and of some fat...there is lots of muscle that was waiting to come out and was screaming for the estrogen aka water to be pulled away ...

primobolana and trenbolona are the mian main main products that begin this pull ,, they transfer phyiqes in matter of weeks into competition mode...
testosterona? it is the major enemy MAJOR enemy and we always cycle it and know how to cycle it from trial and erros and hands on for many years if experienced bodybuilder

all of you fellas who sit there and wonder how come 190lb fella make you look like shrimps...make you feel bad ,, you all need to follow what they do ...from then its all hgh and insulina my friends ,, a condition ! bodybuild is always what you aim at,, for only when you see the abs and only when you see the veins even if you dotn haev many veins...you will see veins! and only when you see the shelve! thats! when the girl who come twards you think you are a bodybuilder...they dont think anything when they see your semi water bloated 220lb as bodybuilder

as i alwys say to you all ,, IF THE WHORE CANT SEE IT ! IT IS NTO THERE!


i hope now its better understood

gh15 approved/bible index
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on March 21, 2012, 07:41:57 PM
this is the gh15 we all knew and loved  ;D
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: The RedMeatKid on March 21, 2012, 07:42:28 PM
Gh15, do you recommend eliminating creatine as well during the cutting phase?
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: D.O.U.P on March 21, 2012, 07:54:30 PM
this is the gh15 we all knew and loved  ;D

yep
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: makaveli25 on March 21, 2012, 08:03:06 PM
What if you use a mixture of both compounds gh

For instance my current run

700mg primo
test prop masteron mix 1 mil ed
light dose of dbol

I notice I'm holding a bit of water but it seems to fill me out more than make me look bloofy.

Great thread by the way!
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: bladerunner on March 21, 2012, 08:05:18 PM
copied and saved it..thank you God
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Wolfsanglerune on March 21, 2012, 08:11:19 PM
i like this guy.
and even if you spaz out about what he says hes always right about bodybuilding and hormones.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 21, 2012, 08:12:59 PM
What if you use a mixture of both compounds gh

For instance my current run

700mg primo
test prop masteron mix 1 mil ed
light dose of dbol

I notice I'm holding a bit of water but it seems to fill me out more than make me look bloofy.

Great thread by the way!

the look im talking about... is 3-6 weeks out look ofcourse there is diff between 3 and 6 weeek out,,, but!

fellas that you see walking around 4-5 weeks out.... they dont play with no dianabol,,and the test is calculated to the t ...

now! you can have the things you talk about in your cycle ...if! you got diuretic to pull wateer out and if! you knwo how to use diuretic the right way like any drug addicted bodybuild...but! many dont ...many dont want to even start thijnking about messing themselfs ...

so.... many use low doses of tesotsteorna usualy phnyl prop...  maybe 150 -200 mg a week and bombard themselfs with trenbolona and primobolana ...this 2 combo is killer killer ! it creates frank zanes if! legit ...then in the end if yo feel too flat you put in anadrola ....why? because your body fat is so damn low and primoboana and trenbolona got you to have almost no water between skin and muscle...that the addition of anadrola in a blitz will only blow you up from within and make you look even more conditioned ...bigger... fuller...thicker...and the muscles will push out througth the skin like you are an alien ...


the look that many worship is the look of the lean face....when the head...is looking smaller...not becaue the head is small lol but becaue the FACE ! IS LEAN ,, thats when you see the beck....and the traps shoiwing very well....sudenly everyone think your 200lb look like 240 lb you get this squary slops you get the veins in the side delts running ther...you get your pecs to show detailes under them ...the line gets clearer and cleaer ,, the abs getting drier...sudenly you lay down on the floor or lay against a door in angle and you can see them all like iron board...
this is a winner look you walk around like you are miliion dolaros for you are! million dolaros ,, this look put to shame any 250 lb gymnasium rat around...

you want to be bigger? HGH AND INSULINA IN COMBO AND ONLY! IN COMBO...that wont be bigger...but it wil be heavier...which will be bigger due to how insulina works...better quality muscle ? no way

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Zé galinha on March 21, 2012, 08:13:19 PM
nice and dandy  :) 8)
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: haider on March 21, 2012, 08:17:03 PM
I didn't read any of that shit.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: makaveli25 on March 21, 2012, 08:17:49 PM
Fuck this makes me think again. When I start loosing all of the water I feel flat and small. That's why I add things like dbol in there. Or i hike up the test dose for a few weeks. It's a hard line to walk. When I'm dry as shit I look great but kind of small. I usually sit at 200 pounds 6'0 tall to me that feels small but it's conditioned.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: makaveli25 on March 21, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
I didn't read any of that shit.

No one asked you to. This is good shit. Way better than any other advice you will ever find on any board.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: haider on March 21, 2012, 08:19:40 PM
No one asked you to. This is good shit. Way better than any other advice you will ever find on any board.
exact location please.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: nosleep on March 21, 2012, 08:20:34 PM
the look im talking about... is 3-6 weeks out look ofcourse there is diff between 3 and 6 weeek out,,, but!

fellas that you see walking around 4-5 weeks out.... they dont play with no dianabol,,and the test is calculated to the t ...

now! you can have the things you talk about in your cycle ...if! you got diuretic to pull wateer out and if! you knwo how to use diuretic the right way like any drug addicted bodybuild...but! many dont ...many dont want to even start thijnking about messing themselfs ...

so.... many use low doses of tesotsteorna usualy phnyl prop...  maybe 150 -200 mg a week and bombard themselfs with trenbolona and primobolana ...this 2 combo is killer killer ! it creates frank zanes if! legit ...then in the end if yo feel too flat you put in anadrola ....why? because your body fat is so damn low and primoboana and trenbolona got you to have almost no water between skin and muscle...that the addition of anadrola in a blitz will only blow you up from within and make you look even more conditioned ...bigger... fuller...thicker...and the muscles will push out througth the skin like you are an alien ...


the look that many worship is the look of the lean face....when the head...is looking smaller...not becaue the head is small lol but becaue the FACE ! IS LEAN ,, thats when you see the beck....and the traps shoiwing very well....sudenly everyone think your 200lb look like 240 lb you get this squary slops you get the veins in the side delts running ther...you get your pecs to show detailes under them ...the line gets clearer and cleaer ,, the abs getting drier...sudenly you lay down on the floor or lay against a door in angle and you can see them all like iron board...
this is a winner look you walk around like you are miliion dolaros for you are! million dolaros ,, this look put to shame any 250 lb gymnasium rat around...

you want to be bigger? HGH AND INSULINA IN COMBO AND ONLY! IN COMBO...that wont be bigger...but it wil be heavier...which will be bigger due to how insulina works...better quality muscle ? no way

gh15 approved

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TELLING SWLABR. HE'S HELPED ME DESIGN MY 2 YEAR CYCLE PLANS AND THIS IS THE GAMEPLAN. RANGING FROM A GRAM TO 2 GRAMS OF AAS WITH NO MORE THAN 150-200MG TEST AS THE BASE OF IT, THE REST PRIMARILY PRIMO, SECONDARILY NPP, AND A LITTLE EQ.

TREN ACE IS WHEN DIETING WITH HIGH DOSE MASTERON AND LITTLE TEST PROP/ANADROL OR TEST PROP/ANAVAR.

THAT'S THE LOOK I'M GOING FOR THE LEAN FACE, DRY AS A BONE, GRANITE, VEINY COCK LOOK. THE LATEST POSTS OF BIBLE TALK, COUPLED WITH DISGUSTED'S BELIEFS, IS WHAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT STRUCTURE. I'M KEEPING THE TEST IN JUST TO KEEP A LITTLE THICKNESS, LITTLE LIBIDO, AND GIVE ME THE ROOM TO DROP IT AND GET EVEN DRIER FOR WHEN I GO INTO MY DIETING MODES. I'M ABOUT 208LBS NOW AND PEOPLE THINK I'M NO LESS THAN 225LBS.

900MG PRIMO ACE
100MG VAR ED
20MG HALOTESTIN ED
600MG TREN ACE

STRENGO APPROVED SANS THE HALO...THATS BMAN.

 :D
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: nosleep on March 21, 2012, 08:21:32 PM
Fuck this makes me think again. When I start loosing all of the water I feel flat and small. That's why I add things like dbol in there. Or i hike up the test dose for a few weeks. It's a hard line to walk. When I'm dry as shit I look great but kind of small. I usually sit at 200 pounds 6'0 tall to me that feels small but it's conditioned.

YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. YOU LOOK A LITTLE "FLATTER" IN SOME CLOTHINGS, BUT YOU LOOK TREMENDOUS OVERALL. THAT'S WHAT MATTERS. YES, YOU WALK AROUND WITH A SHIRT ON 90% OF THE TIME, BUT ONCE YOU GOT THAT LEAN FACE AND THAT ANGULAR LOOK YOU DON'T WANT TO GO AWAY FROM IT.

Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: makaveli25 on March 21, 2012, 08:22:08 PM

900MG PRIMO ACE
100MG VAR ED
20MG HALOTESTIN ED
600MG TREN ACE ED

STRENGO APPROVED SANS THE HALO...THATS BMAN.

 :D

Beautiful cycle there nosleep I like that alot man.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: makaveli25 on March 21, 2012, 08:23:43 PM
exact location please.

In your moms kitchen raiding the freezer for ice cream after getting a blumpkin  ;D
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: FAST LANE on March 21, 2012, 08:44:44 PM

as i alwys say to you all ,, IF THE WHORE CANT SEE IT ! IT IS NTO THERE!


i hope now its better understood

gh15 approved/bible index

HAHA!!! YESSSSSSS
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Brocty on March 21, 2012, 08:57:00 PM
Good to have you back god of hormones
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Nomad on March 21, 2012, 10:13:21 PM
all of you fellas who sit there and wonder how come 190lb fella make you look like shrimps...make you feel bad ,, you all need to follow what they do ...from then its all hgh and insulina my friends ,, a condition ! bodybuild is always what you aim at,, for only when you see the abs and only when you see the veins even if you dotn haev many veins...you will see veins! and only when you see the shelve! thats! when the girl who come twards you think you are a bodybuilder...they dont think anything when they see your semi water bloated 220lb as bodybuilder

as i alwys say to you all ,, IF THE WHORE CANT SEE IT ! IT IS NTO THERE!


i hope now its better understood

gh15 approved/bible index


Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Aussie Duffman on March 21, 2012, 11:00:13 PM
love halo granite :)
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: no one on March 21, 2012, 11:02:37 PM


you'll only have to put up with being flat when your trying to get your bf down. once you get to 4-5% and you start reintroducing carbs sodium and fats you'll fill back out, and be able to maintain that look just by keeping your dosages static and playing with your macros a bit to lose water when you want to.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 21, 2012, 11:08:11 PM

you'll only have to put up with being flat when your trying to get your bf down. once you get to 4-5% and you start reintroducing carbs sodium and fats you'll fill back out, and be able to maintain that look just by keeping your dosages static and playing with your macros a bit to lose water when you want to.

b
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gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Swlabr on March 22, 2012, 05:18:20 AM

you'll only have to put up with being flat when your trying to get your bf down. once you get to 4-5% and you start reintroducing carbs sodium and fats you'll fill back out, and be able to maintain that look just by keeping your dosages static and playing with your macros a bit to lose water when you want to.

Spot on. I looked flat as fuck (lean, but flat) two days ago because I had been on 0 carbs for a few days. I carbed up last night and I looked the best I've ever looked around 2 - 3 hours later, like magic.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 06:40:51 AM
*Moved due to strong elements of hormone discussion.

Come on guys, this isn't hard.

Arnold jr
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: g101 on March 22, 2012, 07:11:53 AM
*Moved due to strong elements of hormone discussion.

Come on guys, this isn't hard.

Arnold jr


yeah... not an excuse to pull more traffic to a dead board  ::) ::)
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: wes on March 22, 2012, 08:30:16 AM

you'll only have to put up with being flat when your trying to get your bf down. once you get to 4-5% and you start reintroducing carbs sodium and fats you'll fill back out, and be able to maintain that look just by keeping your dosages static and playing with your macros a bit to lose water when you want to.
Totally good post with simple info that most should already be aware of.

If you look flat,it`s really not an issue unless it`s on the day of a contest that you`re competing in.

Simple carbs, along with some water,a bit of sodium,and you`ll fill out bigtime.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 09:45:58 AM
yeah... not an excuse to pull more traffic to a dead board  ::) ::)

You idiots, people you like g101 are the ones who have hurt the steroid board traffic...you and your idiotic behavior. Guys like 4thAD, Rimbaud, Udeluz, Trab, FreakfestMd, on and on I can go, those guys left because of the GH15 elves...because you're annoying. Real bodybuilders, guys who actually step on stage and in the case of Trab spent a lifetime studying anabolic hormones.

As for moving these threads here...there've only been three so far, the only extra traffic it generates is you and your friends...and those are people I really don't care to have here in the first place. Secondly, if it does increase traffic as you claim, what the crap does that do for me?

Finally, of all GH15 post, while I do sometimes agree with him this one here I could not disagree with more....he actually made crap up in this post, I'm talking impossible statements. I could not disagree with this post anymore than I already do.

Go ahead, enter your remark, I'm sure it'll be something like "OK, whatever you say mr. 7,000amps and 2,000tabs....you f'n filt....agenda, agenda, agenda....etc" Save your breath....btw, if you idiots had actually read my original post where you pull this 7000 amp claim from, if you had actually paid attention you'd feel like an idiot for stating the number, and one day I'll prove it...when I feel like it, but in the mean time, you need to learn to show a little respect for those who have been in and around this and who have a real identity.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 12:23:01 PM
arnold junior,, g101 is a real bodybuilder and been there MUCH longer than you ,,
nothing i say inregard to hormoens is wrong,, i done it all for more years tahn anyone on this boarding aside from coach maybe and few others,, i also got to th etop ...my advice is from the top

again g101 is very VERY experienced

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 01:17:16 PM
arnold junior,, g101 is a real bodybuilder and been there MUCH longer than you ,,
nothing i say inregard to hormoens is wrong,, i done it all for more years tahn anyone on this boarding aside from coach maybe and few others,, i also got to th etop ...my advice is from the top

again g101 is very VERY experienced

gh15 approved

g101 is another nameless identity...as GH15 is a nameless identity, meaning, know one knows who you really are then that's not credible regarding g101 being some high experienced, knowledgeable individual. You could say anything about him, you could call him emperor of the 5th dimension if you wanted to...see my point? He may be a real bodybuilder, he may be one of the greatest anabolic minds on earth and a whole lot of other things....all I see him do is parrot you though.

Again, for the millionth time, I don't have a problem with you. I don't always agree with you, but that's a far cry from having a problem....for example, you're incorrect about some of the things you say about Dianabol...but we've argued that to death so I see no need in hashing it out again. Anyway....some of your select few elves, they are my problem...they're annoying, disrespectful, and I've yet to see one of them come up with an original thought. Everything they say echo's you....even if they bash me they only use things you have said....they're mindless, arrogant on the basis of nothing with no solid ground to stand on......that's what I see when I look at g101, apply85, pelius and a few others.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 01:56:46 PM
g101 is another nameless identity...as GH15 is a nameless identity, meaning, know one knows who you really are then that's not credible regarding g101 being some high experienced, knowledgeable individual. You could say anything about him, you could call him emperor of the 5th dimension if you wanted to...see my point? He may be a real bodybuilder, he may be one of the greatest anabolic minds on earth and a whole lot of other things....all I see him do is parrot you though.

Again, for the millionth time, I don't have a problem with you. I don't always agree with you, but that's a far cry from having a problem....for example, you're incorrect about some of the things you say about Dianabol...but we've argued that to death so I see no need in hashing it out again. Anyway....some of your select few elves, they are my problem...they're annoying, disrespectful, and I've yet to see one of them come up with an original thought. Everything they say echo's you....even if they bash me they only use things you have said....they're mindless, arrogant on the basis of nothing with no solid ground to stand on......that's what I see when I look at g101, apply85, pelius and a few others.

you even start to write like me ,, what is this again for the milion time,, who say it all the time? me lol

if i say you got busted for what you got busted.. you did

if i say i say g101 is a true bodybuild with oevr 10 years !  of boarding experience and bodybuild hands on even longer...  he does..

my elfs are selctd after logn process,, its nto easy to be my elf,,

i do not like what happeend to getbig,, i talked about it to overload and he actualy was with me on that,,, it hs nothing to do with my elfs...it has to do with TRUE GIMCKS who RUINED THE GETBIG boarding,,

you do knwo what im bringing prety soon and it wil b ehuge in part because getbig....fell into hands of kids and gimicks

do you know who did it?

i will tell you

ron heris
mike arneld
biga and moderator
danta

all 4 are prime prime targets,, and i sweat to god that the way the ruined the getbig boarding to some degree i will ruin their life,, trust me on that,,

i knwo everything there is to know from regustration in canada to servers in australia to actual fellas behnid money loundrying,,selling of narcotics to federal agents,, and most important the feds.... the feds

they already hworry but worry is nothnig here....the F E D E R A L S will make sure its more than worry

i wish i could talk more but its not talk this is the thing,, i had elfs for very logn time penetrating the highest hirarchy of boardings and actualy befriending in real life fellas that wil be thrown into federal prison ,,

you will see i never ever lie!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: nosleep on March 22, 2012, 02:04:17 PM
g101 is another nameless identity...as GH15 is a nameless identity, meaning, know one knows who you really are then that's not credible regarding g101 being some high experienced, knowledgeable individual. You could say anything about him, you could call him emperor of the 5th dimension if you wanted to...see my point? He may be a real bodybuilder, he may be one of the greatest anabolic minds on earth and a whole lot of other things....all I see him do is parrot you though.

Again, for the millionth time, I don't have a problem with you. I don't always agree with you, but that's a far cry from having a problem....for example, you're incorrect about some of the things you say about Dianabol...but we've argued that to death so I see no need in hashing it out again. Anyway....some of your select few elves, they are my problem...they're annoying, disrespectful, and I've yet to see one of them come up with an original thought. Everything they say echo's you....even if they bash me they only use things you have said....they're mindless, arrogant on the basis of nothing with no solid ground to stand on......that's what I see when I look at g101, apply85, pelius and a few others.

AND WHO THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU? ANOTHER NAMELESS IDENTITY? INFACT YOU ARE WORSE OFF, YOU'RE KNOWN AS AN EX-CON AROUND HERE. I WOULDN'T BE SO JUDGEMENTAL IF I WAS YOU.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 02:12:32 PM
you even start to write like me ,, what is this again for the milion time,, who say it all the time? me lol

if i say you got busted for what you got busted.. you did

if i say i say g101 is a true bodybuild with oevr 10 years !  of boarding experience and bodybuild hands on even longer...  he does..

my elfs are selctd after logn process,, its nto easy to be my elf,,

i do not like what happeend to getbig,, i talked about it to overload and he actualy was with me on that,,, it hs nothing to do with my elfs...it has to do with TRUE GIMCKS who RUINED THE GETBIG boarding,,

you do knwo what im bringing prety soon and it wil b ehuge in part because getbig....fell into hands of kids and gimicks

do you know who did it?

i will tell you

ron heris
mike arneld
biga and moderator
danta

all 4 are prime prime targets,, and i sweat to god that the way the ruined the getbig boarding to some degree i will ruin their life,, trust me on that,,

i knwo everything there is to know from regustration in canada to servers in australia to actual fellas behnid money loundrying,,selling of narcotics to federal agents,, and most important the feds.... the feds

they already hworry but worry is nothnig here....the F E D E R A L S will make sure its more than worry

i wish i could talk more but its not talk this is the thing,, i had elfs for very logn time penetrating the highest hirarchy of boardings and actualy befriending in real life fellas that wil be thrown into federal prison ,,

you will see i never ever lie!

gh15 approved

No sir, you are incorrect....if I SAY I got busted for what then that is what happened...you have no say. You have one post that I made in 2010 and have twisted it to fit what you desire...that's all you have. If you had more it would have spread like wildfire. What I say about me is what is...not you.

As far as you lying...maybe you don't lie much, but you lie about me all the time...and you know that.

AND WHO THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU? ANOTHER NAMELESS IDENTITY? INFACT YOU ARE WORSE OFF, YOU'RE KNOWN AS AN EX-CON AROUND HERE. I WOULDN'T BE SO JUDGEMENTAL IF I WAS YOU.

The only ones "around here" that refer to me as an excon are you and the mighty elves...that's it, and it's hardly a majority. I'm not a nameless identity...I've shared my name on more than one occasion, where I live, etc. I've posted videos on getbig numerous times with my fat head in them...for crying out loud, I used to promote my website back before Ron no longer allowed that sort of thing. I've met numerous people from this board, trained with a handful, and still keep up with some who have become real life friends. I am far from nameless. And BTW, to be an excon that would mean I would have to have been convicted of something....sorry, wrong again asshole.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
how many ampolas and pills did you get busted with when they got you in the car while pulling in ? let it be known i know the EXACT NUMBER,, i also know what you went through,, dont underestimate me ,, i know it and nto because of your story !

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: NeilGM on March 22, 2012, 02:19:58 PM
So GH15,

If we got the tren or primo there at all times and we put in some doses of something that makes us hold water to fill out a bit, obviously the lines would blur due to some water retention, but really the tren/primo should prevent us from getting fat as long as we do not over eat and the water gain should be quickly lost when you take those wet compounds out?
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 02:23:09 PM
i tlel you what you are arnold junior,, you are a fella that disapeardd for couple years ....when it hapened ,, you got into deep deep troubles,, both  with law...and in real life with health ,,, you swore you would neevr do such a thing....like every addict in the cult you swore this you swore that,,but! you came back to getbig...INTO A MOD POSITION ,, i didnt give a fuck as logn as you didnt risk the members since your information is good ,,but! like any addict you cant stay away from the fucking kitchen ...you need to stay away from the kitchen and keep it out of the kitchen ,, trust me on that i been there MUCH MUCH LONGER than anyone of the 30 something year old brave balonies you see around,, all thsoe 35 37 32 year old fellas...wont do you any good,, stay out of the kitchen a nd serve as a mod,,

you dont have the idea that palius is mad,, he is so mad and he is a pull,, he is so mad of what happend to getbig that the actual boarding is in risk of collapsing ...and staying with no one that is of status

and i blame few felas i mentioned before,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: MrBigandCut on March 22, 2012, 02:33:28 PM
Based on what you have said I am probably best to knock my generic chinese gh on the head now as I am only 5 1/2 weeks out from my show and will need at least this amount of time to get the water out!!!
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Overload on March 22, 2012, 03:10:59 PM
AND WHO THE FLYING FUCK ARE YOU? ANOTHER NAMELESS IDENTITY? INFACT YOU ARE WORSE OFF, YOU'RE KNOWN AS AN EX-CON AROUND HERE. I WOULDN'T BE SO JUDGEMENTAL IF I WAS YOU.

You are cool in my book nosleep.

But you guys don't know Arnold and I do.

He is a real life person who contributes a lot of time to this industry in a very positive way.

Not a single person on this board thinks he's an ex-con except for the gh15 group. I know the entire story brother. I don't know why you guys won't leave him alone. He was never convicted of anything and I know the REAL truth.

I'm honestly getting tired of the attacks against Arnold. If you guys have problems with the board then leave and start your own. The only problem with the board right now seems to come from the same group of people who just won't stop. Actually there are 2 groups of people fucking everything up, but you guys certainly are not helping in any way.

I have no issues with you nosleep, but if you honestly knew what nonsense caused all of this you wouldn't be so quick to judge someone.

I've said enough to defend Arnold. If you guys can't follow the rules then just start your own board and have fun.

The more you guys piss and moan, the more i am going to enforce the rules.



8)
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: nosleep on March 22, 2012, 03:17:11 PM
DUDE HAS BEEN OFF LATELY. LIKE THE DOUCHE THREAD....IS THAT EVEN RELEVANT? CONSTANT SARCASM & GIANT POWER TRIP.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: pellius on March 22, 2012, 04:58:49 PM
*Moved due to strong elements of hormone discussion.

Come on guys, this isn't hard.

Arnold jr



Still trolling the G&O following gh15 around. The G&O already has mods. Leave it to them. Mind your own business and your own board. And, btw, can you move your douche thread that you have on the steroid board to General Topics. Come on guy, that isn't hard.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: pellius on March 22, 2012, 05:03:02 PM
You idiots, people you like g101 are the ones who have hurt the steroid board traffic...you and your idiotic behavior. Guys like 4thAD, Rimbaud, Udeluz, Trab, FreakfestMd, on and on I can go, those guys left because of the GH15 elves...because you're annoying. Real bodybuilders, guys who actually step on stage and in the case of Trab spent a lifetime studying anabolic hormones.

As for moving these threads here...there've only been three so far, the only extra traffic it generates is you and your friends...and those are people I really don't care to have here in the first place. Secondly, if it does increase traffic as you claim, what the crap does that do for me?

Finally, of all GH15 post, while I do sometimes agree with him this one here I could not disagree with more....he actually made crap up in this post, I'm talking impossible statements. I could not disagree with this post anymore than I already do.

Go ahead, enter your remark, I'm sure it'll be something like "OK, whatever you say mr. 7,000amps and 2,000tabs....you f'n filt....agenda, agenda, agenda....etc" Save your breath....btw, if you idiots had actually read my original post where you pull this 7000 amp claim from, if you had actually paid attention you'd feel like an idiot for stating the number, and one day I'll prove it...when I feel like it, but in the mean time, you need to learn to show a little respect for those who have been in and around this and who have a real identity.

Then why don't you move the entire g15 bible to the Steroid board? 95% of it has to do with hormones. Why now? And why aren't you letting the G&O mods decide? How would you like it if the mods over there started messing with threads over here.

Just stick to this board and what goes on here and mind your own business and shadowing gh15.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: pellius on March 22, 2012, 05:09:23 PM
You are cool in my book nosleep.

But you guys don't know Arnold and I do.

He is a real life person who contributes a lot of time to this industry in a very positive way.

Not a single person on this board thinks he's an ex-con except for the gh15 group. I know the entire story brother. I don't know why you guys won't leave him alone. He was never convicted of anything and I know the REAL truth.

I'm honestly getting tired of the attacks against Arnold. If you guys have problems with the board then leave and start your own. The only problem with the board right now seems to come from the same group of people who just won't stop. Actually there are 2 groups of people fucking everything up, but you guys certainly are not helping in any way.

I have no issues with you nosleep, but if you honestly knew what nonsense caused all of this you wouldn't be so quick to judge someone.

I've said enough to defend Arnold. If you guys can't follow the rules then just start your own board and have fun.

The more you guys piss and moan, the more i am going to enforce the rules.



8)

Well, if you know the entire story and it has nothing to do with illegal activities why don't you just tell us? Once we know the truth then it done. And I would trust you over Arnold Jr. to tell the truth even as it pertains to his own life. BTW, if he was busted for hormones he has my support. The war on drugs, especially hormones, is the biggest waste of societal resources.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on March 22, 2012, 06:38:43 PM
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TELLING SWLABR. HE'S HELPED ME DESIGN MY 2 YEAR CYCLE PLANS AND THIS IS THE GAMEPLAN. RANGING FROM A GRAM TO 2 GRAMS OF AAS WITH NO MORE THAN 150-200MG TEST AS THE BASE OF IT, THE REST PRIMARILY PRIMO, SECONDARILY NPP, AND A LITTLE EQ.

TREN ACE IS WHEN DIETING WITH HIGH DOSE MASTERON AND LITTLE TEST PROP/ANADROL OR TEST PROP/ANAVAR.

THAT'S THE LOOK I'M GOING FOR THE LEAN FACE, DRY AS A BONE, GRANITE, VEINY COCK LOOK. THE LATEST POSTS OF BIBLE TALK, COUPLED WITH DISGUSTED'S BELIEFS, IS WHAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THIS IS THE RIGHT STRUCTURE. I'M KEEPING THE TEST IN JUST TO KEEP A LITTLE THICKNESS, LITTLE LIBIDO, AND GIVE ME THE ROOM TO DROP IT AND GET EVEN DRIER FOR WHEN I GO INTO MY DIETING MODES. I'M ABOUT 208LBS NOW AND PEOPLE THINK I'M NO LESS THAN 225LBS.

900MG PRIMO ACE
100MG VAR ED
20MG HALOTESTIN ED
600MG TREN ACE

STRENGO APPROVED SANS THE HALO...THATS BMAN.

 :D

EXPENSIVE!
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 07:19:44 PM
i tlel you what you are arnold junior,, you are a fella that disapeardd for couple years ....when it hapened ,, you got into deep deep troubles,, both  with law...and in real life with health ,,, you swore you would neevr do such a thing....like every addict in the cult you swore this you swore that,,but! you came back to getbig...INTO A MOD POSITION ,, i didnt give a fuck as logn as you didnt risk the members since your information is good ,,but! like any addict you cant stay away from the fucking kitchen ...you need to stay away from the kitchen and keep it out of the kitchen ,, trust me on that i been there MUCH MUCH LONGER than anyone of the 30 something year old brave balonies you see around,, all thsoe 35 37 32 year old fellas...wont do you any good,, stay out of the kitchen a nd serve as a mod,,

you dont have the idea that palius is mad,, he is so mad and he is a pull,, he is so mad of what happend to getbig that the actual boarding is in risk of collapsing ...and staying with no one that is of status

and i blame few felas i mentioned before,,

gh15 approved

I never got pulled over with anything in my car.

I didn't post on getbig for around 6months...maybe 8 but that's it. Other than that I've been here since 2004.

Yes, I had some legal trouble, yes I had some health problems...I've never denied any of that. I've gone into full detail about the health problems. The legal issues, that's personal and it doesn't affect anyone here.

As for "getting out of the kitchen" I'm not exactly sure what you're implying with that remark.

More than anything...I just want to be left alone.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 07:24:36 PM
Well, if you know the entire story and it has nothing to do with illegal activities why don't you just tell us? Once we know the truth then it done. And I would trust you over Arnold Jr. to tell the truth even as it pertains to his own life. BTW, if he was busted for hormones he has my support. The war on drugs, especially hormones, is the biggest waste of societal resources.


Well, it wasn't for rape, murder, robbery or laundering. I was a bodybuilder, bodybuilding got me into trouble, and for that same reason I don't bodybuild anymore.

Then why don't you move the entire g15 bible to the Steroid board? 95% of it has to do with hormones. Why now? And why aren't you letting the G&O mods decide? How would you like it if the mods over there started messing with threads over here.

Just stick to this board and what goes on here and mind your own business and shadowing gh15.

The decision was to start enforcing the rule from here out...the old post can stay on the G&O. Further, I'm not doing anything I'm not supposed to do...if I was I wouldn't be able to do it.

As for why the decision was made, it's pretty simple. There's a massive amount of sourcing going on, more than in years. There have been several problems, bad problems and to help minimize it as much as possible all such threads are moved here to the steroid board. There's really nothing more to it than that.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Rearden Metal on March 22, 2012, 07:30:55 PM
Arnold can you clarify what you disagree with in gh15's original posting? I can't find it, a bit tired over here. It seemed like a solid posting to me that made a lot of sense.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 07:41:25 PM
Arnold can you clarify what you disagree with in gh15's original posting? I can't find it, a bit tired over here. It seemed like a solid posting to me that made a lot of sense.

I guess the basic premiss would be the best place to start.

I've never been a fan of calling steroids bulkers or cutters...that's too black and white.

For example, he says cutting steroids help you burn fat...well, all anabolic androgenic steroids enhance the metabolism, therefore you can burn more fat. Sure, some do so more than others, and some promote lipolysis directly to a degree such as Tren, Winny and Anavar, but even Tren as most would agree is a fantastic bulking steroid.

Then there's the big one that I really disagree with...his comments about Dianabol and Testosterone. He says they will cause fat gain....no, they won't cause fat gain if you're in a caloric deficit. If GH15 is a pro bodybuilder, and he very well may be, I have absolutely know way of knowing, then he knows bodybuilders have been using test and Dbol even in contest prep for decades...Arnold did it and so did Ronnie.

Personally, I love Dianabol and Test when dieting....I wouldn't run Dbol towards the back end but it sure can help on the front half. Of course, the end is all that really matters anyway.

Long story short...saying certain steroids promote fat promotion, this just isn't accurate. Glucocorticoid hormones promote fat gain. If its an anabolic steroid and it promotes fat gain, you're eating to be fat or it's not an anabolic steroid.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: mr.turbo on March 22, 2012, 07:54:45 PM
sorry to interrupt I had another matter I was hoping could be clarified.

Arnold Jr., you said previously that you wanted to leave the board on several occasions but Ron Avidan asked you to stay.

Is this correct?

Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 08:02:27 PM
sorry to interrupt I had another matter I was hoping could be clarified.

Arnold Jr., you said previously that you wanted to leave the board on several occasions but Ron Avidan asked you to stay.

Is this correct?



No, I said I'd leave the board if there was proof that I was this criminal, scammer or liar a select few on here claim me to be. I also said I'd leave if that wasn't proven but a strong segment of the getbig population wanted me gone. GH15 said I shouldn't leave....that's the only time it's really ever come up.

Now, at one point several years ago, back in 2008 I think, I offered my Mod spot to someone else...actually a couple of people. I didn't have the time to mess with this board as much because so much of my time was spent on probodybuilding.com...af ter all, that's what paid the bills. Needless to say, they didn't take it and don't post here anymore. I then told Ron he might have to take me off as a Mod due to a conflict of interest sort of thing...work related...but it ended up being a non-issue.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: mr.turbo on March 22, 2012, 08:10:34 PM
Thanks for clarifying. It was GH15 that requested you stay not Ron I got now.

Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: goomba420 on March 22, 2012, 08:21:03 PM
there is no point in arguing with his elves . as long as they're echoing gh15's statements , they're right. that's how the god of hormones sees things. i could register a new account and as long as i quote gh15, agree with him / reword his posts to my liking, i could be an elf in no time

prerequisites for elfs:

intense hatred for lay nortom
intense hatred for liar priest
reusing needles 100 times as long as they are clean
agreeing with everything that comes out of gh15s mouth regardless of whether it is true or not
capable of fabricating the dumbest shit possible in an attempt to destroy one's reputation

i like his information but damn dude.. just GET RID OF THE ELVES!! NOBODY OTHER THAN YOU AND YOUR CREW WANT THEM HERE!! nobody gives a shit if theyre the most honest fellas on any bodybuilding board. theyre annoying as hell and every mod on this board agrees! what don't you get? jesus christ  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 09:15:04 PM
let me read this postings i wil respond ,, i just need to eat my sushi while goign through this tread,, i wil respond soon

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 09:27:06 PM
I never got pulled over with anything in my car.

I didn't post on getbig for around 6months...maybe 8 but that's it. Other than that I've been here since 2004.

Yes, I had some legal trouble, yes I had some health problems...I've never denied any of that. I've gone into full detail about the health problems. The legal issues, that's personal and it doesn't affect anyone here.

As for "getting out of the kitchen" I'm not exactly sure what you're implying with that remark.

More than anything...I just want to be left alone.

make sure you arte accurate.. dont twist my words! ,, no one saif you god pulled over like cops pull sover for ticket... no no ,,

what happend is that you got gun point to your face while driving innnnnnto you rplace....all guns pointed at you ...PULLED YOU OUT OF YOUR CAR..,.. and ruineed your damn house from the inside out ...

arnold stop! i know the story well

dont get yourself into a liar catagory ,,

it was big thing! you knwo it and you know it well! your best friend....so call best friend even though warned there are no best friends in bodybuild.... fucked you in the ass...


you are a nice fella...you keep your word nicely and polite on the boading with much control over what you say ....but dont lie to my pupils or to anyone,, if you wish to not talk about it just say that ,, but the truth is known to me first hand...i knew it while it was hapening

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: g101 on March 22, 2012, 09:30:03 PM
make sure you arte accurate.. dont twist my words! ,, no one saif you god pulled over like cops pull sover for ticket... no no ,,

what happend is that you got gun point to your face while driving innnnnnto you rplace....all guns pointed at you ...PULLED YOU OUT OF YOUR CAR..,.. and ruineed your damn house from the inside out ...

arnold stop! i know the story well

dont get yourself into a liar catagory ,,

it was big thing! you knwo it and you know it well! your best friend....so call best friend even though warned there are no best friends in bodybuild.... fucked you in the ass...



you are a nice fella...you keep your word nicely and polite on the boading with much control over what you say ....but dont lie to my pupils or to anyone,, if you wish to not talk about it just say that ,, but the truth is known to me first hand...i knew it while it was hapening

gh15 approved


read it clearly people.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 09:44:01 PM
I guess the basic premiss would be the best place to start.

I've never been a fan of calling steroids bulkers or cutters...that's too black and white.

For example, he says cutting steroids help you burn fat...well, all anabolic androgenic steroids enhance the metabolism, therefore you can burn more fat. Sure, some do so more than others, and some promote lipolysis directly to a degree such as Tren, Winny and Anavar, but even Tren as most would agree is a fantastic bulking steroid.

Then there's the big one that I really disagree with...his comments about Dianabol and Testosterone. He says they will cause fat gain....no, they won't cause fat gain if you're in a caloric deficit. If GH15 is a pro bodybuilder, and he very well may be, I have absolutely know way of knowing, then he knows bodybuilders have been using test and Dbol even in contest prep for decades...Arnold did it and so did Ronnie.

Personally, I love Dianabol and Test when dieting....I wouldn't run Dbol towards the back end but it sure can help on the front half. Of course, the end is all that really matters anyway.

Long story short...saying certain steroids promote fat promotion, this just isn't accurate. Glucocorticoid hormones promote fat gain. If its an anabolic steroid and it promotes fat gain, you're eating to be fat or it's not an anabolic steroid.

look ,, im talking her ehands on first hands on no book balonie no nothing,,

when gh15 got to be absolit ...in the last few years,, the recomendations also changed to say the complete truth and nothing but the truth not only 99% but 100%

my actual observation are from hands on in the highest level of competition and also in the lower levels with fellas i trained and train ,, i ptu many on clean sushi diets...

testosterona = BLOOOOOFY MOTHER FUCKER

DIANABOL = DISGUSTED WATER FOUNTAIN

yes you can eat clean and look good on them ...but no mater what your will not! be a walking sculpture ,, you wil not be dry and you wil not ne hard enough your skin wil thicken and your muscle will be swallon by the skin ....it is what i call the puffbuff phenomenon ,, the puffbuff phenomenon is somewhat diff than the puffpuff! phenomenon for thepuffpuff is the skinn fat fella who use suplmenets and never gain muscle... the puffbuff phenomenon is the same fella...who now uses hormones insted of balonie suplmeents...but! use the WRONG HORMONES AS IN DOSES AND OR PRODUCTS..

you go take legit primobolana and trenbolona and put someone on it ....with hgh ....with minimal testosterona and NO ORALS.. take the gh out after 3 months ... see what happen to that fella...while he is standing playing pottypot golf every one around is staring ,, from top from buttom from the side,, whores ,, nonewhores,, grsanmas ,, granpas,, youg kids,, old dads,, babys,, all stare and wonder how the fuck does this fella look so huge and sculpted and ripped...and you know what this fella weigh? most likley 206 lb ...

why? becaue he used the right fucking hormones LIKE FRANK ZANE ,, LIKE ARNOLD,, LIKE SERGE ,, LIKE SAMIR ,, LIKE LABRADA,,

listen ,, my word is in stone,, i been to mount olympus and what i say here is from 24 7 every day for over 25 years! of hands on experience ....i woudnt say it othere way ,,

what i say is how you buildl ADVANCE BODYBUILDER,, i gave this kidos here and everywhere around the world the best thing they ever had! ever! the ability to get to be advance bodybuild with very little trial and eror,, for that i GAINED WORSHIPED STATUS and it is every where,,

to say all hormones burn fat...NOT TRUE! ,,

hormones basicaly manipulating water weight in the body ...this is what they do ...SOME HORMONES BURN FAT INADDITION,,

i do not lik ethe steroids boardings balonie i saw along the years.. it is much rubbish and this is why none of you got anywhere and cant get profesional cards..no one of us ever been on no steroids boarding ..the ones who made it ,, even that 4rth tier pro biga didnt do nothing in bodybuilding ,, im tellin you how to get to be advance bodybuild and i get much fire for it but more than that i get generation who is my pupils... and they are in the 100s of 1000s

i decided to bring a forum so once and forall fellas undertsand that pct is garbgage! you know it too! ,, that peptides are GARBAGE! that you dont need to wait 6 months to see results from hgh but it comes in weeks,, that you dont have to kiss ass to moderator to be EQUAL
this is why i bring the gh15 media,,

you can tell im no balonie ,, you can tell im the real deal ,, and you can tell i am one fella,, and the ones who dont talk know it very well,, there is big silence ...ron heris starting to face the music....he went down under even if not say it yet...danta is quiet too...he knows somethin big is coming,,

i HAD ENOUGH OF THE BALOBIE AND THE ABUSE OF MY PUPILS,, I HAVE ENOUGH OF THE ABUSE OF BODYBUILDERS AROUND THE WORLD,, I HAVE A HUGE MOVMENT BEHIND ME IT IS HUGE ALL AROUND THE GLOBE ,,AND IT WILL!  CHANGE BODYBUILD ON THE GROUND! NOT ONLY INTERNET...BUT ON THE GROUNDS!

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 09:56:42 PM
make sure you arte accurate.. dont twist my words! ,, no one saif you god pulled over like cops pull sover for ticket... no no ,,

what happend is that you got gun point to your face while driving innnnnnto you rplace....all guns pointed at you ...PULLED YOU OUT OF YOUR CAR..,.. and ruineed your damn house from the inside out ...

arnold stop! i know the story well

dont get yourself into a liar catagory ,,

it was big thing! you knwo it and you know it well! your best friend....so call best friend even though warned there are no best friends in bodybuild.... fucked you in the ass...


you are a nice fella...you keep your word nicely and polite on the boading with much control over what you say ....but dont lie to my pupils or to anyone,, if you wish to not talk about it just say that ,, but the truth is known to me first hand...i knew it while it was hapening

gh15 approved


Of course I'm accurate....I know what happened better than anyone else.

The thing is GH15, you don't know the story. You know bits and pieces, sure, I'll give you that, but to know the entire thing there's only three ways:

1. you were there
2. I told you the full story
3. There are actual records of the story

The last one, number three, that one would be impossible as there are no records. If I ever decide to tell the full story, and one day I might, the reason there are no records will make a whole lot of sense. There can't be any, because people in the anti-world would have a freakin fit!

As for "lying to your pupils" they pull things from the deep crevices of the darkest corners of their ass when it pertains to me. I don't lie to them....as I've said, I've never denied anything. Yes, I once got into some legal trouble...bodybuilding related...I have never once denied it. However, I have chosen not to talk about it. Your pupils are the ones who repeatedly bring it up in a way that not only irritates me but makes no sense.

For example, they accuse me of being this big time seller, this big time scum, yet they praise sources...please tell me in what dimension of the universe this makes sense? If I say anything they disagree with, their immediate response is "7,000amps, 2,000 tabs".....which BTW, is an inaccurate number. If you think long and hard, you'll remember why that's an inaccurate number that does not apply or have any meaning towards me.

And for the last time, no, I do not want to talk about it. When I'm ready to, I will, but the GH15 elfs do not make me want to do this anytime soon. Their complete lack of respect does not create in me a desire to offer up anything. If that changes, sure, one day I'll spill the whole can of beans.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 09:57:51 PM
No, I said I'd leave the board if there was proof that I was this criminal, scammer or liar a select few on here claim me to be. I also said I'd leave if that wasn't proven but a strong segment of the getbig population wanted me gone. GH15 said I shouldn't leave....that's the only time it's really ever come up.

Now, at one point several years ago, back in 2008 I think, I offered my Mod spot to someone else...actually a couple of people. I didn't have the time to mess with this board as much because so much of my time was spent on probodybuilding.com...af ter all, that's what paid the bills. Needless to say, they didn't take it and don't post here anymore. I then told Ron he might have to take me off as a Mod due to a conflict of interest sort of thing...work related...but it ended up being a non-issue.

you SHOULD NOT leave,, why is that? the reason is very simple,, you are long timer...and you been there ,, you do have exrience and been in bodybuild long helping ,, so yes i said you should not leave ,, this is why i didnt care when you came back to mod position because i do see you as a bodybuildrr


gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 09:59:33 PM
Of course I'm accurate....I know what happened better than anyone else.

The thing is GH15, you don't know the story. You know bits and pieces, sure, I'll give you that, but to know the entire thing there's only three ways:

1. you were there
2. I told you the full story
3. There are actual records of the story

The last one, number three, that one would be impossible as there are no records. If I ever decide to tell the full story, and one day I might, the reason there are no records will make a whole lot of sense. There can't be any, because people in the anti-world would have a freakin fit!

As for "lying to your pupils" they pull things from the deep crevices of the darkest corners of their ass when it pertains to me. I don't lie to them....as I've said, I've never denied anything. Yes, I once got into some legal trouble...bodybuilding related...I have never once denied it. However, I have chosen not to talk about it. Your pupils are the ones who repeatedly bring it up in a way that not only irritates me but makes no sense.

For example, they accuse me of being this big time seller, this big time scum, yet they praise sources...please tell me in what dimension of the universe this makes sense? If I say anything they disagree with, their immediate response is "7,000amps, 2,000 tabs".....which BTW, is an inaccurate number. If you think long and hard, you'll remember why that's an inaccurate number that does not apply or have any meaning towards me.

And for the last time, no, I do not want to talk about it. When I'm ready to, I will, but the GH15 elfs do not make me want to do this anytime soon. Their complete lack of respect does not create in me a desire to offer up anything. If that changes, sure, one day I'll spill the whole can of beans.

i dont think you shuol talk about it because its no ones business,,

gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 10:03:50 PM
look ,, im talking her ehands on first hands on no book balonie no nothing,,

when gh15 got to be absolit ...in the last few years,, the recomendations also changed to say the complete truth and nothing but the truth not only 99% but 100%

my actual observation are from hands on in the highest level of competition and also in the lower levels with fellas i trained and train ,, i ptu many on clean sushi diets...

testosterona = BLOOOOOFY MOTHER FUCKER

DIANABOL = DISGUSTED WATER FOUNTAIN

yes you can eat clean and look good on them ...but no mater what your will not! be a walking sculpture ,, you wil not be dry and you wil not ne hard enough your skin wil thicken and your muscle will be swallon by the skin ....it is what i call the puffbuff phenomenon ,, the puffbuff phenomenon is somewhat diff than the puffpuff! phenomenon for thepuffpuff is the skinn fat fella who use suplmenets and never gain muscle... the puffbuff phenomenon is the same fella...who now uses hormones insted of balonie suplmeents...but! use the WRONG HORMONES AS IN DOSES AND OR PRODUCTS..

you go take legit primobolana and trenbolona and put someone on it ....with hgh ....with minimal testosterona and NO ORALS.. take the gh out after 3 months ... see what happen to that fella...while he is standing playing pottypot golf every one around is staring ,, from top from buttom from the side,, whores ,, nonewhores,, grsanmas ,, granpas,, youg kids,, old dads,, babys,, all stare and wonder how the fuck does this fella look so huge and sculpted and ripped...and you know what this fella weigh? most likley 206 lb ...

why? becaue he used the right fucking hormones LIKE FRANK ZANE ,, LIKE ARNOLD,, LIKE SERGE ,, LIKE SAMIR ,, LIKE LABRADA,,

listen ,, my word is in stone,, i been to mount olympus and what i say here is from 24 7 every day for over 25 years! of hands on experience ....i woudnt say it othere way ,,

what i say is how you buildl ADVANCE BODYBUILDER,, i gave this kidos here and everywhere around the world the best thing they ever had! ever! the ability to get to be advance bodybuild with very little trial and eror,, for that i GAINED WORSHIPED STATUS and it is every where,,

to say all hormones burn fat...NOT TRUE! ,,

hormones basicaly manipulating water weight in the body ...this is what they do ...SOME HORMONES BURN FAT INADDITION,,

i do not lik ethe steroids boardings balonie i saw along the years.. it is much rubbish and this is why none of you got anywhere and cant get profesional cards..no one of us ever been on no steroids boarding ..the ones who made it ,, even that 4rth tier pro biga didnt do nothing in bodybuilding ,, im tellin you how to get to be advance bodybuild and i get much fire for it but more than that i get generation who is my pupils... and they are in the 100s of 1000s

i decided to bring a forum so once and forall fellas undertsand that pct is garbgage! you know it too! ,, that peptides are GARBAGE! that you dont need to wait 6 months to see results from hgh but it comes in weeks,, that you dont have to kiss ass to moderator to be EQUAL
this is why i bring the gh15 media,,

you can tell im no balonie ,, you can tell im the real deal ,, and you can tell i am one fella,, and the ones who dont talk know it very well,, there is big silence ...ron heris starting to face the music....he went down under even if not say it yet...danta is quiet too...he knows somethin big is coming,,

i HAD ENOUGH OF THE BALOBIE AND THE ABUSE OF MY PUPILS,, I HAVE ENOUGH OF THE ABUSE OF BODYBUILDERS AROUND THE WORLD,, I HAVE A HUGE MOVMENT BEHIND ME IT IS HUGE ALL AROUND THE GLOBE ,,AND IT WILL!  CHANGE BODYBUILD ON THE GROUND! NOT ONLY INTERNET...BUT ON THE GROUNDS!

gh15 approved

I'm not saying something like a testosterone & dianabol only plan would be the best way for a ripped, hard look, of course it wouldn't....there are far more efficient combinations. However, this doesn't mean they are not "Fat Friendly." If it increases the metabolic rate, which both do, if it decreases and suppresses glucocorticoid hormones, which both do then it is metabolic friendly...a stronger metabolism equates to less fat gain or greater fat-loss depending on total caloric expenditure.

All I'm saying is you can't say these steroids directly promote fat gain....that's like saying a hair dryer can make you wet. I understand your water and estrogen argument, but while they both promote aromatase it's not a cut and dry sort of thing. Aromatase can easily be controlled....how we control it can vary from one guy to the next.

All-in-all, I simply disagree with the bad rap you often give these two steroids. That's all.
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: gh15 on March 22, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
there is no point in arguing with his elves . as long as they're echoing gh15's statements , they're right. that's how the god of hormones sees things. i could register a new account and as long as i quote gh15, agree with him / reword his posts to my liking, i could be an elf in no time

prerequisites for elfs:

intense hatred for lay nortom
intense hatred for liar priest
reusing needles 100 times as long as they are clean
agreeing with everything that comes out of gh15s mouth regardless of whether it is true or not
capable of fabricating the dumbest shit possible in an attempt to destroy one's reputation

i like his information but damn dude.. just GET RID OF THE ELVES!! NOBODY OTHER THAN YOU AND YOUR CREW WANT THEM HERE!! nobody gives a shit if theyre the most honest fellas on any bodybuilding board. theyre annoying as hell and every mod on this board agrees! what don't you get? jesus christ  ::) ::) ::)


my elfs... and some of them are more expeircned than me by the wy ..not all of them are from getbig.com,,many of them are on other boardings,, my elfs....they are pure gold ,, they are PURE DAMN GOLD,, they work so hard and they really really want the truth out there,, they have deep love for bodybuilding and they are very smart fellas with hands on ...true some of them are not advance bodybuilders...but the ones who are not... have strength in other things such as reading people,, observing people ,, deep memory and remembering shit you wont even think about remembering ,,  my elfs are better than computer!


gh15 approved
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: Arnold jr on March 22, 2012, 10:04:56 PM
i dont think you shuol talk about it because its no ones business,,

gh15 approved

Then respectfully don't bring it up anymore, and command your pupils to do the same. This happens, and we have no problem.
Title: GH15
Post by: whitewidow on March 22, 2012, 10:08:35 PM
some of GH15's elfs have been busted multiple times! I won't name names. they know who they are! one elf has been  busted 3 times! multiple contoll deliverys! some people just have bad luck! that dosn't make them a bad person. some of us have been lucky and never have had any issues with getting in trouble. I just don't think AJ should get harrassed about this so -called bust when I know a elf who got busted 3 times! I also got shit for deleting the kigtropin thread! that thread had already been dleted once because of all the sources named in it.

 and then I allowed one elf to post it again just to make sure people received their replacement kits. they got their replacement kits and their was no reason to keep that thread up especially when alot of people including some sources wanted taken down. also getbig is not an open source board! taht thread should of been posted on whatever board they bought the kigs from. I will make a stickey if a source is a scammer or selling a bunk product. but there was no reason that kigtropin thread even belonged on getbig! it belonged wherever kami sources on. Main thing is some people have shit luck and get busted! AJ may of had some trouble once but one of Gh15's top elfs has been in trouble 3 times and I have PM's from him to prove what I am saying. I don't think they are necessary to post just shows some people have bad luck! what can you do.This game is risky!
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: pellius on March 23, 2012, 01:12:18 AM
Of course I'm accurate....I know what happened better than anyone else.

The thing is GH15, you don't know the story. You know bits and pieces, sure, I'll give you that, but to know the entire thing there's only three ways:

1. you were there
2. I told you the full story
3. There are actual records of the story

The last one, number three, that one would be impossible as there are no records. If I ever decide to tell the full story, and one day I might, the reason there are no records will make a whole lot of sense. There can't be any, because people in the anti-world would have a freakin fit!

As for "lying to your pupils" they pull things from the deep crevices of the darkest corners of their ass when it pertains to me. I don't lie to them....as I've said, I've never denied anything. Yes, I once got into some legal trouble...bodybuilding related...I have never once denied it. However, I have chosen not to talk about it. Your pupils are the ones who repeatedly bring it up in a way that not only irritates me but makes no sense.

For example, they accuse me of being this big time seller, this big time scum, yet they praise sources...please tell me in what dimension of the universe this makes sense? If I say anything they disagree with, their immediate response is "7,000amps, 2,000 tabs".....which BTW, is an inaccurate number. If you think long and hard, you'll remember why that's an inaccurate number that does not apply or have any meaning towards me.

And for the last time, no, I do not want to talk about it. When I'm ready to, I will, but the GH15 elfs do not make me want to do this anytime soon. Their complete lack of respect does not create in me a desire to offer up anything. If that changes, sure, one day I'll spill the whole can of beans.

What other way can someone get in legal trouble bodybuilding related if it doesn't have to do with drugs? I remember vaguely the story you wrote. I didn't know who you were at the time and don't remember the details but you got busted for steroids. I think it's a travesty of the law and you got unjustly screwed. Guys needle you about it because you try to hide the issue. I'm sure if you just were open and upfront and said "Yeah, I got busted for hormones. I'm one of those guys who takes all the risks so you addicts can have your precious testosterona. Our government has decided that those who by their own free will, and causing no harm or even inconvenience to others, that decide to use hormones, hormones produced naturally in their bodies, and their various, and safer, derivatives, are criminals and need to be put behind bars. Yeah, I made a few extra shekels doing that. Anybody have a problem with that? You think people who use and sell hormones for personal use belong in jail? Explain that to me?"

Honest suppliers do a great service at great risk for themselves.

I am in no way implying that you were a supplier. I don't recall that in your lengthy narrative. But to me it doesn't matter. 70 amps, 700,000 amps. None of my business. You own your body. You can do what you want with it. If someone offers you a few bucks for those amps it's none of my, or anybody else's, business.   
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: diamondcut on March 23, 2012, 01:44:46 AM
EXPENSIVE!

lol my bank account hurt after reading nosleep's cycle
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: oliveiraugo on March 23, 2012, 07:59:26 PM

my elfs... and some of them are more expeircned than me by the wy ..not all of them are from getbig.com,,many of them are on other boardings,, my elfs....they are pure gold ,, they are PURE DAMN GOLD,, they work so hard and they really really want the truth out there,, they have deep love for bodybuilding and they are very smart fellas with hands on ...true some of them are not advance bodybuilders...but the ones who are not... have strength in other things such as reading people,, observing people ,, deep memory and remembering shit you wont even think about remembering ,,  my elfs are better than computer!


gh15 approved

 :D
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: dropp on March 24, 2012, 05:35:11 AM

my elfs... and some of them are more expeircned than me by the wy ..not all of them are from getbig.com,,many of them are on other boardings,, my elfs....they are pure gold ,, they are PURE DAMN GOLD,, they work so hard and they really really want the truth out there,, they have deep love for bodybuilding and they are very smart fellas with hands on ...true some of them are not advance bodybuilders...but the ones who are not... have strength in other things such as reading people,, observing people ,, deep memory and remembering shit you wont even think about remembering ,,  my elfs are better than computer!


gh15 approved
:D 2x
Title: Re: repetetive questions about cut and bulk,,
Post by: qbkilla on March 24, 2012, 06:42:07 AM
i thought i read a post re-posted by guy on this board that came from gh15 keyboard saying to make little arms big,,,u need to run the tren,,,then drop the tren/gh,,,,and throw in suspension,,,and dbol,,,but i just read dbol is part of the puffbuff phenom,,,,can someone give me final answer?  i was going to stock up on some dbol to use to get that xtra arm size,,,but has this view been changed?  should anadrol be used instead?  i know in phase 3 gh15 reccomend anandrol and masteron togeather to blow up after leaning with  eq tren and gh,,,but i dont wanna be a big bloofy retard like guys at gyms in my state