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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: jakesonyou on March 21, 2012, 10:44:40 PM
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Who could imagine The GOAT went from perfect aesthetics to greatest mass monster in history. Every year the physique just got better and better. Untouchable from start to end.
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I'm a Coleman fan boy but damn :o
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:o :o 8)
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It's ashame he couldn't keep his abs and waist like that.
He peaked around '95, then he got worse from that point on. Muscle tears galore and GH/slin gut enlargement.
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The pics are from 1990,thats Gary Shelmerdine in the background,a few pics were taken of both of them hitting a side chest shot.
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It's ashame he couldn't keep his abs and waist like that.
He peaked around '95, then he got worse from that point on. Muscle tears galore and GH/slin gut enlargement.
His abs were fine and his abs-thigh pose was superb. His midsection was tight until 1994 Mr Olympia. The only time you will ever see a bad gut picture of The GOAT is if he is not posing or standing relaxed. Dorian's transitions were flawless and he did not let the gut just hang out like other competitors you see.
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The pics are from 1990,thats Gary Shelmerdine in the background,a few pics were taken of both of them hitting a side chest shot.
Correct. Gary on the right :)
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I'm a Coleman fan boy but damn :o
hang on now.
ronnie had great aesthetics when he was smaller too.
but the catch is that he KEPT great aesthetics all the way up to 260 pounds or so, whereas dorian at that weight looked terrible.
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Ronnie early in carrer > Dorian early in career
Ronnie late in career > Dorian late in career
It's not a discussion.
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No point even mentioning Ronnie in this thread, Dorian looks great (no homo) in those pics.
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Ronnie early in carrer > Dorian early in career
Ronnie late in career > Dorian late in career
It's not a discussion.
delusional.
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hang on now.
ronnie had great aesthetics when he was smaller too.
but the catch is that he KEPT great aesthetics all the way up to 260 pounds or so, whereas dorian at that weight looked terrible.
Lame
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lame:
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hang on now.
ronnie had great aesthetics when he was smaller too.
but the catch is that he KEPT great aesthetics all the way up to 260 pounds or so, whereas dorian at that weight looked terrible.
Wow
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ha ha ha,,, early coleman looked terrible, some delusional kunts in here, yates looked stellar from his 1st show till last, not like that geeky fucker
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Who could imagine The GOAT went from perfect aesthetics to greatest mass monster in history. Every year the physique just got better and better. Untouchable from start to end.
:o
(http://i.imgur.com/NM9vX.jpg)
Early Yates 1980s-92 had Great aesthetics far from perfect but they were Great, the thing is like Coleman after him he kept (and for the most part succeeded) on getting bigger and bigger witch in turn Diminishes the flow of those lines, Taper etc and that rule applied to BOTH Coleman and Yates, thing is in Yates favor was his Conditioning was spot on time....and time again....and again thats the Difference when his aesthetics started to go sideways.....his all round Conditioning secured him against Genetically Superior bbers time and time again, as ive said many times IMO Coleman's size "factor" wouldn't be a Factor against beating a Prime Yates, His actual Conditioning would have to be Spot on in 1998 it was whether it would of been enough to beat Yates...its anyone's guess.
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hang on now.
ronnie had great aesthetics when he was smaller too.
but the catch is that he KEPT great aesthetics all the way up to 260 pounds or so, whereas dorian at that weight looked terrible.
Bias as usual nothing new here Yates here @ 257 in 93....there goes your theory up in smoke as usual.
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Yates destroys Ronnie so bad it's not real. :o
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i didnt knew dorian used to look good?
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Ron Coleman could not hold a candle to a 1993, 1995, or 1996 Yates.
The GOAT's conditioning was unmatched. Ronald only had 3 good conditioned showings in his pro career. People rave on 2003 but in reality he was a bloated mess holding water. He had bad lines and a huge uncontrolled gut..
A 1997 Yates dwarfed a 1997 Coleman. A 1998 Dorian "The GOAT" Yates would have obliterated him
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Ron Coleman could not hold a candle to a 1993, 1995, or 1996 Yates.
The GOAT's conditioning was unmatched. Ronald only had 3 good conditioned showings in his pro career. People rave on 2003 but in reality he was a bloated mess holding water. He had bad lines and a huge uncontrolled gut..
A 1997 Yates dwarfed a 1997 Coleman. A 1998 Dorian "The GOAT" Yates would have obliterated him
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Ron Coleman could not hold a candle to a 1993, 1995, or 1996 Yates.
The GOAT's conditioning was unmatched. Ronald only had 3 good conditioned showings in his pro career. People rave on 2003 but in reality he was a bloated mess holding water. He had bad lines and a huge uncontrolled gut..
A 1997 Yates dwarfed a 1997 Coleman. A 1998 Dorian "The GOAT" Yates would have obliterated him
bodybuilding contests aren't judged solely on conditioning. The bodybuilder with the best combination of muscular bulk, definition, symmetry, and shape is the winner. Although 03 Ronnie is less conditioned than a prime Dorian, the difference in size > conditioning. Even bodybuilding experts who have seen both men at their peak say that 03 Ronnie is the greatest physique to win the Mr. Olympia
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I laugh when people try to distort reality... "could not hold a candle" ::)
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blocky hunk of crap symbolized how bodybuilding became hamburger mass building, guy has symmetery of a hippo and basically looks like a fat dude who had lipo on his abs
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If Ronnie had faced a tougher competition we would all see how vurnerable he really was. I mean come on, Cutler almost beat him! Cutler. Jay.
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Ronnie's FDB is great (the black and white pic above), but is there a possibility that the picture is slightly doctored. It seems to me that the waist is reduced, and that the chest/lat is a bit stretched. It is so (realistically) little that is almost not noticable... but still (Is it just me??)
Here is a pic taken at the very same second... but slightly different angle
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Ronnie backstage at the '98 Olympia after hearing a rumor that Dorian would be competing..
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Ronnie's FDB is great (the black and white pic above), but is there a possibility that the picture is slightly doctored. It seems to me that the waist is reduced, and that the chest/lat is a bit stretched. It is so (realistically) little that is almost not noticable... but still (Is it just me??)
Here is a pic taken at the very same second... but slightly different angle
it's possible that pic is doctored. If anything, it looks like they made his waist slightly narrower
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Ron Coleman could not hold a candle to a 1993, 1995, or 1996 Yates.
The GOAT's conditioning was unmatched. Ronald only had 3 good conditioned showings in his pro career. People rave on 2003 but in reality he was a bloated mess holding water. He had bad lines and a huge uncontrolled gut..
A 1997 Yates dwarfed a 1997 Coleman. A 1998 Dorian "The GOAT" Yates would have obliterated him
You're a tool dipshit. Go back to bed. The only Dorian that would have and could have beaten a prime Ronnie was 1993. He looked absolutely fucked in 1996. WTF show were you watching. In 1995, he was huge, but Ronnie had him by thirty pounds and would have made him his bitch. Dorian 1993 can stand toe to toe with anyone in history. After the bicep injury his lines and abominable waist made him look like absolute crap from the front. Nasser ....ehhrr GH15 .... would have smoked him many times over if he had a back.
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You're a tool dipshit. Go back to bed. The only Dorian that would have and could have beaten a prime Ronnie was 1993. He looked absolutely fucked in 1996. WTF show were you watching. In 1995, he was huge, but Ronnie had him by thirty pounds and would have made him his bitch. Dorian 1993 can stand toe to toe with anyone in history. After the bicep injury his lines and abominable waist made him look like absolute crap from the front. Nasser ....ehhrr GH15 .... would have smoked him many times over if he had a back.
hope this helps 8)
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Thanks for proving my point ;D. The guy was a beast from the back. He looks like shit from the front. His waist is as wide as his shoulders. BTW...why did you leave out a front double bicep shot.
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bodybuilding contests aren't judged solely on conditioning. The bodybuilder with the best combination of muscular bulk, definition, symmetry, and shape is the winner. Although 03 Ronnie is less conditioned than a prime Dorian, the difference in size > conditioning. Even bodybuilding experts who have seen both men at their peak say that 03 Ronnie is the greatest physique to win the Mr. Olympia
Bodybuilding experts? What does that mean, the judges? The judges have given Mr Olympia to Jay Cutler! What a travesty!
Dorian "The GOAT" Yates dwarfed Ron Coleman even when he stopped competing, I posted the pictures.
The only place Ron Coleman can be The GOAT on is arms. Many competitors had better arms than The GOAT after the tear, but they still couldn't beat him. This isn't bodybuilding front double bicep only!
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you keep referring to dorian as 'the goat'
I can see why:
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Ron Coleman could not hold a candle to a 1993, 1995, or 1996 Yates.
LOL ::)
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LOL part 2
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LOL part 3
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lol part infinity
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for your information "The GOAT" stands for the greatest of all time - Which Dorian Yates is when it comes to bodybuilding.
Secondly you post some poor quality pictures of The GOAT vs good quality pictures of Ron Coleman. Good attempt though!
Muscletime.com has some decent photos, but the majority are blurry and low quality images. You have to dig deep for the good pictures!
Ron Coleman cannot touch The GOAT in conditioning or thickness. Ron Coleman beats The GOAT in gut size, waist size, and glute size.
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Stop calling Dorian "The Goat". Jakes "Gayest of all time" on you.
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Ron Coleman cannot touch The GOAT in conditioning or thickness
sorry but even using your own examples ronnie beats dorian in conditioning
if you are going to try and argue something, at least try to post shots that back up your argument LOL
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Dorian learned to fly at a young age! 8)
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The GOAT just got better and better every year. Untouchable!
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ronnie at his peak is better conditioned than the fat goat:
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If Dorian wasn't forced to retire because of injury, I wonder if Ronnie would have ever won an Olympia? There's no way Dorian would have been beaten on stage, and if he had won 3 or 4 more Olympias, Ronnie's window of opportunity may have passed.
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If Dorian wasn't forced to retire because of injury, I wonder if Ronnie would have ever won an Olympia? There's no way Dorian would have been beaten on stage, and if he had won 3 or 4 more Olympias, Ronnie's window of opportunity may have passed.
lol this isn't even a question. Dorian was massive in 1997, MASSIVE. with the trademark conditioning. Did Ronald come in big and conditioned like The GOAT in 1997? No he did not. He came in watery with poor lines.
What made The GOAT look disappointing from the front was the stomach. This was from internal stomach bleeding. The tricep injury was unfortunate, but he was able to crush the competition even with these injuries.
In 1998 even if the tricep was not fixed, he would have dominated Ronald. I have no doubt he would have been even bigger and better conditioned. My guess it would be something like the 1992-1993 change or the come back at 1995 Mr Olympia.
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fat goat? :D
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ronnie at his peak is better conditioned than the fat goat:
No he wasnt and he was Missing a Pair of Calves @ his Peak in fact from start to finish he was Still missing them, no need to post pics showing this, you make light in most your posts Yates had shit arms/biceps etc.... @ his peak he had them, same can not be said of Ron and his calves, and the Bigger those quads of Ron's got the more glaring that issue was along with his waist size, same thing of course can be said with Yates the longer he went on.... the worst his arms and waist got, make light of these 2 Greats @ their peaks see who had the most Complete balance with everything else that goes with it....there possibly is your answer.
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The GOAT had fantastic BICEPS before the tear. I have no idea what people complain about them. Are they the biggest of all Mr Olympia's? No. Are they the smallest? Definitely not. Pre/post tear, whatever, he has fantastic forearms, and SUPERB triceps.
Dorian's left bicep insertion was a little shorter than the right even before the tear.
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hang on now.
ronnie had great aesthetics when he was smaller too.
but the catch is that he KEPT great aesthetics all the way up to 260 pounds or so, whereas dorian at that weight looked terrible.
Hulkster are you a blackman? I sure hope so.
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no I am a pasty white canadian
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Who could imagine The GOAT went from perfect aesthetics to greatest mass monster in history. Every year the physique just got better and better. Untouchable from start to end.
:o
(http://i.imgur.com/NM9vX.jpg)
not quite... went downhill due to a series of injuries... but he was a game changer for a while
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Every year the physique just got better and better.
its one thing to sing the praises of dorian pre biceps tear. he looked great.
not as good as ronnie, but still great.
but you are claiming he got better and better every year which is stupid.
this is not better:
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You are an amateur my young friend. You can attempt all you like posting low quality pictures of The GOAT, but he beat Ron Coleman.
I can post a hundred bad pictures of Ronald too! The difference is that Ronald only had 3 quality showings in his entire career. After that he could not control his gut, conditioning, and speech.
hope this helps
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LOL the pics you claim are "low quality" are great pics from the very years you say dorian would have beat ronnie ::)
here's another: dorian self proclaimed best ever shape in 95 and he gets crushed.
low quality my ass ::)
hint: the fact that dorian was not as good as a peak ronnie does not make the pics low quality.
you can take the best pics ever of him and they still don't compare
the quality is not the issue. its dorian's physique that is the problem.
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You are an amateur my young friend. You can attempt all you like posting low quality pictures of The GOAT, but he beat Ron Coleman.
I can post a hundred bad pictures of Ronald too! The difference is that Ronald only had 3 quality showings in his entire career. After that he could not control his gut, conditioning, and speech.
what is with your infatuation with Dorian? Ronnie never beat him b/c Dorian retired before Ronnie reached his prime. Following your logic, Lee Haney is better than your crush since he never lost to Dorian. Furthermore, it doesn't matter how many bad showings Ronnie had. What matters is how good he looked at his best. An analogy would be Usain Bolt setting the world record in the 100 m sprint, then finishing last the next year (disqualification). He still holds the record for the fastest time. Likewise, Ronnie at his prime set the bar higher than Dorian
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i personally like ronnie more than yates
but by a judges standpoint
THIS kind of physique is almost unbeatable and clearly unbeatable by any other ifbb pro since arnold
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The GOAT :o
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LOL the pics you claim are "low quality" are great pics from the very years you say dorian would have beat ronnie ::)
here's another: dorian self proclaimed best ever shape in 95 and he gets crushed.
low quality my ass ::)
hint: the fact that dorian was not as good as a peak ronnie does not make the pics low quality.
you can take the best pics ever of him and they still don't compare
the quality is not the issue. its dorian's physique that is the problem.
And here's a Picture under STAGE LIGHTING in 1999... not the Controlled STUDIO lighting of Coleman in the 2001 studio shot. YOU have claimed countless Times Ronnie's best was @ the 1999 O....up against a Picture Of Yates @ his WORST in 1997 also under stage lighting.
Big Difference between the 1999 SCREEN CAPS as well as the Studio lighting of that shot of Coleman's BDB in 2001 isnt it? so no the Quality of Lighting of Pictures, Screen-caps, Video etc etc DOES make a big Difference and you know it.
If we are to entertain your rational with your usual selective pic posting then the 2nd shot below of the 96 SCREEN CAP of Yates Back-shot is Far "Superior" than Coleman's "best" of 1999 BDB isnt it....so he must be better.... well his arms are ::) .
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And here's a Picture under STAGE LIGHTING in 1999 not the Controlled STUDIO lighting of Coleman in the 2001 studio shot. YOU have claimed countless Times Ronnie's best was @ the 1999 O.... against a Picture Of Yates @ his WORST in 1997 also under stage lighting, big Difference between the 1999 SCREEN CAPS and Studio lighting of that shot of Coleman's BDB in 2001 isnt it? so no the Quality of Lighting of Pictures, Screen-caps, Video etc etc DOES make a big Difference and you know it, if we are to entertain your rational with your usual selective pic posting then the 2nd pic below of the 96 SCREEN CAP of Yates Back-shot is Far "Superior" than Coleman's "best" of 1999 BDB isnt it....so he must be better.... well his arms are ::) .
Great pic of Dorian....If I had a dollar for every pixel I would have $2
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lol no, on stage 99 shots still beats his self proclaimed best ever onstage 95:
you can try and put any spin you want to it, but the facts are (and is corroborated by the pics and vids) that dorian didn't measure up to the standard ronnie set.
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well, dorian does have better calves.
I guess that counts for something? ???
LOL
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well, dorian does have better calves.
I guess that counts for something? ???
LOL
Do better conditioning, better definition and better v-taper count for something too?
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they would if dorian did, but he doesn't.
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Nothing to do ...with "Body-parts"....Better arms....Better back or your Fav pics with Ron's "Glutes", lost count of all the Guys that had "better arms" and better Quads and better Taper than Yates over the years who he competed against....Facts were they never beat him onstage with all those so called advantages, your guy isnt Conditioned like he was in 1998........Forget it he would more than likey lose to Yates again...and again his "arm size" Taper and Quads would not mean a thing without the Paper-thin skin and Ridiculous Condition he had in 1998 and he would need all of it to have a chance, Superior conditioning and all round balance would be the tie breaker between those to @ their respective bests on THE DAY not who had the better "Body-parts".
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No one was born to be a bodybuilder more than Yates. Unmatched structure, density, graininess, and bodybuilding intelligence.
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I think the most intelligent thing Yates done in terms of Legacy was Leave after 1997 his Conditioning was as Normal Great however his Body was shot, as for while he competed as the Champion in terms of Preparation well 6 wins out of 7 attempts @ the O speaks volumes there perhaps one of the most Driven champs of them all, considering the Obvious physical and mental obsticals he had to overcome with severe injury's etc while still competing, i dont think anyone thats prepared to be unbiased would deny Ron had Superior Genetics for BB in terms of Shape, Taper, Muscles bellys etc than Yates however as has been Mentioned there was Plenty of others with Superior Genes than Yates and they all came up short....again and again.....Bar Haney.
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No one was born to be a bodybuilder more than Yates. Unmatched structure, density, graininess, and bodybuilding intelligence.
um no.
his body building 'intelligence' got him a major injury caused by training way too heavy precontest in 94 only two wins into his olympia dynasty.
yes, his blood and guts training was great.
but it also caused major injuries early on in his career, so maybe it wasn't so great after all.
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um no.
his body building 'intelligence' got him a major injury caused by training way too heavy precontest in 94 only two wins into his olympia dynasty.
yes, his blood and guts training was great.
but it also caused major injuries early on in his career, so maybe it wasn't so great after all.
I like Ronnie. Great champion. But your 2012 post did not age well.
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I like Ronnie. Great champion. But your 2012 post did not age well.
Nor did Ronnie