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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BayGBM on March 26, 2012, 01:18:18 PM
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Wow! My email box and PMs runneth over. Some of you are really interested in the apnea/steroid connection and with good reason; I guarantee you there is a connection! If you are cycling and you haven’t developed apnea yet, I think it is only a matter of time. Your airway is going to become constricted, and even during waking hours your breathing will become labored. Over the years, I have seen this in person with a number of big guys. I recall Palumbo discussing this in an interview many years ago as well. I am posting this publicly to save some time (too many PMs) and because this is way more serious than the HGH Dick some of you were so curious about a few years ago. This is something we should be sharing information on:
• If you have developed (even mild) apnea over what period of time did it develop?
• What were you taking when it developed? The guys I knew were on some combination of deca/test/hgh.
• Do you consider apnea a serious health risk? What are the long-term implications of having it? Can it be cured or reversed (yes, I think so)?
By the way, it is common for some guys (especially fat guys) to develop apnea even if they have never cycled. :(
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I have Polycythemia. My hemotologists says it is from a combination of sleep apnea and AAs use. My blood got so thick 2 yrs ago that it blew a hole in my colon. After a day of filling up the toilet with blood I was in the hospital. Nasty shit.
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Also a theory about wheat allergies causing sinus problem/post nasal drip which could lead to Sleep apnea...
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But what does you being gay have to do with this?
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What was the underlying condition. MANY people have thick blood and sky high blood presure and dont have this happen. Was your colon :-X the weakest link?
Probably the weakest link, and a good thing. They said I was very lucky I did not stroke out. They had to pull a bunch of blood out of me so new blood would thin it out. They had this big plastick syringe and a huge needle and could barely get it to pass in the hospital. It was so fuking painfull. Then I had to go to the blood bank 3x a week to let blood out. It still raises every so often but nothing to where it was at that time.
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Well, I used to sleep like a baby and rarely snore but I've been told I snore quite frequently now (not all the time). I always put it down to the increase in weight
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Interesting. I just had a sleep study done and have severe obstructive sleep apnea. I often stop breathing and at times am woken up vomiting or nearly vomiting.
I consider it serious and am seeking treatment. I also have much less pronounced apnea when ripped than when bulked up.
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Well........at least its not about muffins, flowers, or gas ::)
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It would be interesting to see how much of this is a function of the massive weight gain strength/power athletes and people in general have under gone in the last 30 odd years. Nearly every heavy or super heavy weight powerlifter I know over 30 has it, or is close to it.
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Well........at least its not about muffins, flowers, or gas ::)
or credit scores
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For some reason back in 2004, I had become obsessed with neck training. I had read some articles that said if you had a strong neck, you would have a strong back.
I was deadlifting quite a bit back then, as it has always been my best lift of the big 3, and was hitting in the low 500's.
Admittedly, I was carrying some excess adipose tissue, but I was by no means fat. I was 215 pounds, and had worked my neck up to a size 17 1/2" shirt. All of my shirts had to be custom made due to my neck/yoke measurements.
I had access to a Nautilus 4 way neck machine (Power Plus model--it was in my house), and I would work all directions. Flexion is what caused me to have some sleep issues. My girlfriend at the time told me I was snoring loudly, and I had never been a snorer in the past.
I read all of the materials I could find on sleep disorders, and I stopped doing flexion, but still did lateral flexion and extension. No more snoring.
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or credit scores
Come on now, let's not get Wes pissed off by bringing up credit scores. Incidentally mine is 850.;)
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or credit scores
Touche
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As soon as I reached about 200lbs lean, I started having mild apnea. It gets worse with each 5lb increase in weight.
I am about 220 right now at 10-12% and it is the worst I have had it. Currently on Deca, low mast, low tren.
It happens to me regardless of my stack though, I will have it completely off AAS if my bodyweight stays over 200.
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It would be interesting to see how much of this is a function of the massive weight gain strength/power athletes and people in general have under gone in the last 30 odd years. Nearly every heavy or super heavy weight powerlifter I know over 30 has it, or is close to it.
x2. Now, of that number how many of them are natural? I suspect very few. :-\
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Guys sleep apnea is no joke. The respiratory system and the cardiovascular system function in a closed loop, so chages in one system will also cause changes in the other. Severe apnea can lead to heart damage down the line
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I have it. Have had surgery and c-pap machine to correct it. I'm 5'7" and usually around 250lbs. If I diet down under 230 it goes away. Extremely painful surgery, involved shaving back some of my soft palate, removing tonsils and adenoids.......basically removing whatever they could to increase the size of the air way.
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some people are suckers for marketing
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K I just have to ask and I dont want to derail the thread or anything but... Hgh dick?
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I have it. Have had surgery and c-pap machine to correct it. I'm 5'7" and usually around 250lbs. If I diet down under 230 it goes away. Extremely painful surgery, involved shaving back some of my soft palate, removing tonsils and adenoids.......basically removing whatever they could to increase the size of the air way.
Wow, that is a lot of work done for sleep apnea. Are you 250lb of fit muscle or simply overweight? If your weight is mostly muscle and your bodyfat is reasonable then I have to applaud your dedication to being a bigger dude than everyone else.
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I have it. Have had surgery and c-pap machine to correct it. I'm 5'7" and usually around 250lbs. If I diet down under 230 it goes away. Extremely painful surgery, involved shaving back some of my soft palate, removing tonsils and adenoids.......basically removing whatever they could to increase the size of the air way.
Ouch! :'(
Do you still have it? Has it gone away completely? Do you sleep undisturbed now? ???
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K I just have to ask and I dont want to derail the thread or anything but... Hgh dick?
Newbies! ::)
why do some bodybuilders heads/hands grow?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=170470.msg2400935#msg2400935
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Never used peds and I'm not fat. And I have sleep apea. Playing sports got me a deviated septum. I got that fixed. And my pressure when down from 18 to 8. The rest is cause, according to doctor, by thick neck, big togue, big uvula, and small throat. He acutally told me to stop lifting weights. ::) what an asshole. So maybe lifts weights= sleep apea?
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I have it. Have had surgery and c-pap machine to correct it. I'm 5'7" and usually around 250lbs. If I diet down under 230 it goes away. Extremely painful surgery, involved shaving back some of my soft palate, removing tonsils and adenoids.......basically removing whatever they could to increase the size of the air way.
I had this done as well,...in one go in the hospital,...as well as deviated septum fixed...I could tell when the cpap started to work...Before the bed linens would be all trashed because of legs thrashing about...the first night that the machine worked the linens were all as they had been before going to sleep and I was refreshed as I have never been before.
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Newbies! ::)
why do some bodybuilders heads/hands grow?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=170470.msg2400935#msg2400935
Haha we all started somewhere, thanks for the link. Mostly just a newb in regards to hgh and slin nowadays.
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Haha we all started somewhere, thanks for the link. Mostly just a newb in regards to hgh and slin nowadays.
Maybe he should inject the hgh straight into his dick? ;D
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some people are suckers for marketing
I videotaped myself under infrared before I had my sleep study and there was definitely something amiss...Sleep apnea is not a marketing ploy.
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Skinney people can have sleep apnea,...it has to do with jawlines not growing properly and resulting in narrow airpassages...deviated septums, polyps, chronic sinusitus cause/aggrevate it as well.
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I had it due to enlarged tonsils, had it even when I was skinny, got a bunch of shit removed from my throat, and my life has drastically improved ever since.
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some people are suckers for marketing
how is sleep apnea a marketing ploy?
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Unfortunately, many individuals improperly diagnose their condition when they are really encountering sleep "dyspnea"... aka shortness of breath.. This condition can be caused by several different factors... Worst case being--> A strong indication of heart disease or eventual congestive heart failure... so yes.. certain abuse of steroids can amplify this consequence, where a disruption in the normal circulation of blood can cause the heart to not efficiently circulate your blood to all necessary organs... eventually--> lungs will not receive enough blood (which provides oxygen) that enables proper gaseous exchange....causing retention of extracellular fluid in lungs (and even more backed up pressure in either ventricle of the heart (extra pressure forces muscles of heart to enarge and stiffen --in order to adapt to this)... this can happen in many other major organs as well!! Bottom line... This breathing condition can possibly be an indication of several other complications and your heart rate does not have to be abnormal for this condition to exist!!
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I thought it was funny that on my sleep study report is noted how many "arousals" I had during my sleep. I guess this is a normal part of the study. Just kinda weird knowing this guy is sitting back counting my woodies. :P
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I thought it was funny that on my sleep study report is noted how many "arousals" I had during my sleep. I guess this is a normal part of the study. Just kinda weird knowing this guy is sitting back counting my woodies. :P
Lol Arousals have a different meaning in a sleep study. That is the number of times you wake up.