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Title: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: MP on March 29, 2012, 05:38:26 PM
Some impressive lifts here:

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/28/john-cena-435-pound-bench-press

Is he the strongest all around wrestler ever?
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on March 29, 2012, 05:42:13 PM
Not even close: Ted Arcidi, Ken Patera, Tony Atlas, Ivan Putski, Bruno Sammartino, Domenic DeNucci, Road Warriors, Scott Norton, Meng, all stronger.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: viking1 on March 29, 2012, 05:46:24 PM
His GH jaw may hold a record for sumsing
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: biff on March 29, 2012, 06:15:55 PM
Not even close: Ted Arcidi, Ken Patera, Tony Atlas, Ivan Putski, Bruno Sammartino, Domenic DeNucci, Road Warriors, Scott Norton, Meng, all stronger.

not even currenttly - i say even at this point mark henry is stronger
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on March 29, 2012, 06:18:45 PM
not even currenttly - i say even at this point mark henry is stronger
Not sure what you mean. Arcidi and Patera set records a juice monkey like Cena caould never even dream of.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: biff on March 29, 2012, 06:39:07 PM
Not sure what you mean. Arcidi and Patera set records a juice monkey like Cena caould never even dream of.

the question was "is cena the strongest wrestler ever?"

if he isnt even the strongest right now, there is no way he is the strongest ever

i guess i should have said 'he's not even the current strongest, let alone the strongest ever'
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Royalty on March 29, 2012, 07:05:16 PM
Lesnar used to rep out with 405
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Hulkster on March 29, 2012, 07:19:39 PM
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: BB on March 29, 2012, 07:23:46 PM
Add Kazmaier, Doug Furnas, Jeep Swenson, Tom Magee to the list. All wrestled, all stronger than Cena.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: qbkilla on March 29, 2012, 07:27:58 PM
dont know if he is the strongest wrestler but he is the most ghetto white dude since eminem,,,does he still wear that big chain around his neck?  guys a douche,,,ill take scott steiner over this punk
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: chess315 on March 29, 2012, 07:38:12 PM
 many wrestlers can bench a lot more then cena. Cenas benching strength is just a little better then average for top porwrestlers but he also has a great deadlift and squat so he would do well in powerlifting evens compared to most but is far from the strongest ever.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: steamboatwillie on March 29, 2012, 07:41:55 PM
He may be one if the most athletic wrestlers ever....factoring strength, agility, quickness, explosiveness, and stamina, but not even close to strongest.  I would say Lesnar and maybe Lex Luger were better all around athletes as well.  I'm sure there are plenty more I'm not thinking of too.  Either way, Cena is a great performer and very talented.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: chess315 on March 29, 2012, 07:48:00 PM
He may be one if the most athletic wrestlers ever....factoring strength, agility, quickness, explosiveness, and stamina, but not even close to strongest.  I would say Lesnar and maybe Lex Luger were better all around athletes as well.  I'm sure there are plenty more I'm not thinking of too.  Either way, Cena is a great performer and very talented.
lex luger was not near the athlete cena is even though he played football he played a time when you could play because you abuse steroids. Lesnar yes but cena can talk his ass off. Other prowrestlers seem not to be to fond of him but he is the man no doubt about that. Cena payed for mike bells from bigger,stronger ,fasters funeral many don't know this the Bells are the ones who taught cena how to wrestle.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: chess315 on March 29, 2012, 07:51:32 PM
 I kinda am curious to see how steve namat holds up if he really professional wrestles or attempts to like he claims he is lucky he is shorter thats for sure as far as abuse on his body goes. I also wonder how he will feel about his colleges being drunk and on narcotics all the time I'm sure the wwe isn't as bad I would guess. Ask any wrestler that has played pro football or mma or anything whats worse they always say wrestling. I'm not even sure that its worth 200-300 grand a year to do it.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: nkhp on March 29, 2012, 08:18:55 PM
Bet the big show is one of the strongest, just because hes so massive. A buddy of mine used to run strippers around town, one night he went to this suite at the top of a hotel downtown, he opened the door and it was the big show eddie guerro and some other dude sitting around a table. He said up close the guy is insanely big.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: MP on March 29, 2012, 08:28:48 PM
By "all around" I was thinking of the three major lifts.

No doubt, Arcidi is up there. But are guys like Lesnar really deadlifting and squatting what Cena can?

Any verified records of what Mark Henry ever benched?
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: NeoSeminole on March 29, 2012, 08:42:07 PM
Bill Kazmaier ;)
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: chess315 on March 29, 2012, 08:53:17 PM
Bill Kazmaier ;)
yep kazamier wrestled a lot of top flight bench experts have at least tried prowrestling.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: BB on March 29, 2012, 09:00:33 PM

Any verified records of what Mark Henry ever benched?


Henry's best 3 lift meet total was in the low 2300's, his bench that time was 480ish, but he has gotten into the low 500s. He's a great deadlifter(low 900's) and Squatter(mid 900's), but weaker bench presser in relation to his bodyweight.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: MP on March 29, 2012, 09:35:27 PM
That's what I'm saying. For his bodyweight, Cena is up there as one of the strongest all around in the big three lifts.

Most people think Triple H and Batista are "huge," but they can't compete with Cena's poundages.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Mawse on March 29, 2012, 10:01:25 PM
Strong considering his day job is so catabolic... dude must be on some heavy painkillers, I have no idea how he can even get off the toilet much less squat 500 for reps.  Every joint in his body must be a broken arthritic mess after all those years in the ring.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Mitch on March 29, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Arcidi eats Cena for his breakfast.

Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: chess315 on March 29, 2012, 11:37:02 PM
most people dont realsie how jacked arcidi was I remember seeing them pix when i was like 14 and thinking my god. Ted arcid can squat and deadlift a fair amount to many guys turn to benching only powerlifting because they like having huge upper bodys
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Powerlift66 on March 30, 2012, 03:52:47 AM
Reeves, I don't recall Domenic Denucci being know for strength?
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Heywood on March 30, 2012, 07:37:42 AM
I don't really consider Arcidi a pro wrestler.  He was almost an "enhancement guy" or "jobber" except that he was huge.  Not a great or even good wrestler.  However, I put him in a higher category than Kaz, wrestling-wise.

Patera, Doug Furnas and Mark Henry had real pro-wrestling careers.

It would be fair to compare Cena to Road Warrior Animal and Jim Neidhart,  both full-time wrestlers, and both of whom would eat Cena's lunch strength-wise.  Same with Rick Steiner (Scott's older brother) in the early 1980's.

Cena and Big John Studd might have a bench contest (were Studd alive), since both claimed some big numbers.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: funk51 on March 30, 2012, 12:41:54 PM
Add Kazmaier, Doug Furnas, Jeep Swenson, Tom Magee to the list. All wrestled, all stronger than Cena.
those were my next suggestions also along with the barbarian and warlord plus road warrior animal, scott steiner.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: deadpan on March 30, 2012, 12:51:49 PM
anyone who does a raw 638 lb deadlift is a cool guy in my book, dude has a nice physique and knows how to market himself......way more respect than some of these "bodybuilders" we see nowadays dosed up to the eyeballs on slin doing 35lb curls for 50 sets.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Bodybuilder Lex Reeves on March 30, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
Bret Hart was also strong as hell. Could bench 500, as could The British Bulldog
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: _bruce_ on March 30, 2012, 04:18:15 PM
most people dont realsie how jacked arcidi was I remember seeing them pix when i was like 14 and thinking my god. Ted arcid can squat and deadlift a fair amount to many guys turn to benching only powerlifting because they like having huge upper bodys

So buff that it hurts - even today his pics look unreal.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: GraniteCityDon on March 30, 2012, 04:23:38 PM
Bret Hart was also strong as hell. Could bench 500, as could The British Bulldog

Brets best bench was reportedly 450 even though it wasnt a "max" rep. Davey Boy was nearer 550 according to rumours, but Big Show & Mark Henry take the cake when it somes to strength. Surprisingly, a prime 220 - 230lb Ken Shamrock was reportedly insanely strong in the gym.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: MP on March 30, 2012, 07:20:41 PM
Bret Hart? Not one of the names that comes to mind when thinking of jacked wrestlers.

Not only is Cena deadlifting, benching and squatting, he's doing snatch and clean lifts in some of these vids:

http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/28/john-cena-435-pound-bench-press
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: jude2 on March 30, 2012, 07:23:07 PM
Brets best bench was reportedly 450 even though it wasnt a "max" rep. Davey Boy was nearer 550 according to rumours, but Big Show & Mark Henry take the cake when it somes to strength. Surprisingly, a prime 220 - 230lb Ken Shamrock was reportedly insanely strong in the gym.
Davey Boy worked out in Golds in Florida when I was in school in 1989 and I witnessed him bench 585 for 2 reps no spotter. Strong dude, but red as a beet.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: BB on March 30, 2012, 07:32:30 PM
Davey Boy worked out in Golds in Florida when I was in school in 1989 and I witnessed him bench 585 for 2 reps no spotter. Strong dude, but red as a beet.

Ken Patera, who was a pretty big user by his own admission, has said before that Davey and Big John Studd in his later years were two guys that scared him with their drug use.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: jude2 on March 30, 2012, 07:42:38 PM
Ken Patera, who was a pretty big user by his own admission, has said before that Davey and Big John Studd in his later years were two guys that scared him with their drug use.
O he was so juiced and bloated he was about to explode.
Title: Re: John Cena 435-pound bench vid: Strongest all around wrestler of all time?
Post by: Wolfsanglerune on March 30, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
what i noticed also is how excited people seem to be and into the event.todays metro type guys world just cant grasp it i think.unfortunate.