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Title: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: alphaanimal on March 29, 2012, 11:21:06 PM
-1050 mg Primo
-1050 mg tren ace
-700 mg NPP
-1000 mg sustanon
-1-2 CCs of TNE-drol-dbol blend before every workout (tren ace, test suspension, masteron, dbol 25 mg, drol 25 mg blend)
-80 mg proviron daily
-12.5 mcg t3 daily
-20-30 iu blue tops daily
this was the cycle right here.
i have a couple of questions.
1.what is tne? what does it stand for?
2. someone mentioned it was oral? how cant test suspension be absorbed orally
3. how can tren ace be absorbed orally?
4 how can mast be absorbed orally?
5.if those things can be absorbed orally does anyone know what the solution is and formula?
i mean if your brewing it.
6. if im just reading wrong and these arnt being taken the way im thinking how is this tne stuff being taken?
thanks not trying to ask stupid questions, this guy just seems to have gotten amazing gains and loved the stuff so i would love to try the protocol.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: lyquid on March 29, 2012, 11:31:41 PM
Testosterone no esteem.

He's getting amazig gains cause of the 4 grams juice and 30 iu hgh lol.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: alphaanimal on March 29, 2012, 11:33:06 PM
wait so is he taking test no ester that has dbol and anadrol in it to or is it all seperate?
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: Jovo on March 29, 2012, 11:33:20 PM
TNE = testosterone no ester aka test suspension
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: lyquid on March 29, 2012, 11:36:58 PM
wait so is he taking test no ester that has dbol and anadrol in it to or is it all seperate?

Good god I hate auto correct. Ester obv I ment . But it puts esteem instead lol.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: Max B on March 30, 2012, 12:00:19 AM
wait so is he taking test no ester that has dbol and anadrol in it to or is it all seperate?

Its a blend.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: chess315 on March 30, 2012, 12:19:02 AM
the reason test base or test no ester would be mixed with injectable orals is because injecting test with n ester his real quick like an oral. Some inject orals to prevent sides such as stomach problems and its prolly a little easier on the liver. That a rare blend the easiest way to get it would be have someone make it or make it yourself.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: aesthetics on March 30, 2012, 12:28:56 AM
injecting an oral just increases the bioavailability.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: local hero on March 30, 2012, 01:34:57 AM
test suspension is by far my test of choice,,, i realy cant be arsed with ed pinning tho
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: aesthetics on March 30, 2012, 03:13:18 AM
test suspension is by far my test of choice,,, i realy cant be arsed with ed pinning tho

shit kicks like a mule though
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: SmoofCat on March 30, 2012, 08:00:11 AM
-1050 mg Primo
-1050 mg tren ace
-700 mg NPP
-1000 mg sustanon
-1-2 CCs of TNE-drol-dbol blend before every workout (tren ace, test suspension, masteron, dbol 25 mg, drol 25 mg blend)
-80 mg proviron daily
-12.5 mcg t3 daily
-20-30 iu blue tops daily
this was the cycle right here.
i have a couple of questions.
1.what is tne? what does it stand for?
2. someone mentioned it was oral? how cant test suspension be absorbed orally
3. how can tren ace be absorbed orally?
4 how can mast be absorbed orally?
5.if those things can be absorbed orally does anyone know what the solution is and formula?
i mean if your brewing it.
6. if im just reading wrong and these arnt being taken the way im thinking how is this tne stuff being taken?
thanks not trying to ask stupid questions, this guy just seems to have gotten amazing gains and loved the stuff so i would love to try the protocol.

Tne-dbol -drol is an injectable. There are two other versions of it - plain Tne, and Tne- drol mix (no dbol).

It is the most powerful PWO. Pros have been using it in one way or another since honestly the 70s when they would concoct mixes of parabolan and dianabol pre workout. Then other drugs came out, and chefs started blending them. And I am sure Arnold is pissed of that he wasn't 24 today, because my god do we have a nice selection of things out there.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: deadpan on March 30, 2012, 09:15:21 AM
injecting an oral just increases the bioavailability.

can you elaborate on this? do you mean crushing up the orals or something like that, or just using the "depot" version instead?
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: aesthetics on March 30, 2012, 09:20:27 AM
dissolving a steroid into a solution and then injecting the solution into your body will effectively increase the amount of the drug that gets absorbed. when you eat things, there is a certain amount of active drug that gets lost due to the stomach or liver degrading the active component in drugs, this goes for all drugs. winstrol has a low bioavailibility, the lowest of all orals, but, injecting that shit is like implanting razor blades into your muscles so fuck that noise
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: deadpan on March 30, 2012, 09:23:12 AM
dissolving a steroid into a solution and then injecting the solution into your body will effectively increase the amount of the drug that gets absorbed. when you eat things, there is a certain amount of active drug that gets lost due to the stomach or liver degrading the active component in drugs, this goes for all drugs. winstrol has a low bioavailibility, the lowest of all orals, but, injecting that shit is like implanting razor blades into your muscles so fuck that noise

i see, and are the depot versions chemically the same as orals? i'd imagine since you're injecting it it won't need the 17aa so it would be easier on your liver?
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: aesthetics on March 30, 2012, 09:38:06 AM
the orals are pretty hard to dissolve into liquid solution, as opposed to normal steroids that have an ester attached. the ester is actually a lipid chain that makes them more lipophilic, or dissolve easier in oils. the orals need a lot of alcohol for them to be dissolved into a solution which makes for painful injections or crashing of the solutions.

i don't know if it makes them easier on the liver, i do not believe it does. in my opinion, the only difference with injecting an oral, is it reduces the cost by a slight margin (since you lose less steroid) and increases the half life as an oil depot takes a little bit longer to dissipate in the body.

the process of methylating the steroids changes the way the steroid works in the body so, yes, injectable orals are the exact same as edible orals (the orals i buy are in injectable form, however, i just eat it since i don't want to deal with pip).
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: deadpan on March 30, 2012, 09:50:48 AM
the orals are pretty hard to dissolve into liquid solution, as opposed to normal steroids that have an ester attached. the ester is actually a lipid chain that makes them more lipophilic, or dissolve easier in oils. the orals need a lot of alcohol for them to be dissolved into a solution which makes for painful injections or crashing of the solutions.

i don't know if it makes them easier on the liver, i do not believe it does. in my opinion, the only difference with injecting an oral, is it reduces the cost by a slight margin (since you lose less steroid) and increases the half life as an oil depot takes a little bit longer to dissipate in the body.

the process of methylating the steroids changes the way the steroid works in the body so, yes, injectable orals are the exact same as edible orals (the orals i buy are in injectable form, however, i just eat it since i don't want to deal with pip).

thanks! :)
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: alphaanimal on March 30, 2012, 05:08:01 PM
does anyone know the brewing formula for eo based test no ester dbol anadrol blend injectable.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: goomba420 on March 30, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
the guy is running 30 FUCKIN IUS A  DAY  and 4 GRAMS of anabolics. do you have any idea how much 30 ius? is? three vials of GH every day? that's a shit ton of juice! jason genova would be a pro on that shit! there is no mystery as to how he is getting 'gains'. he 'hates everything phil heath stands for in terms of drug use' but uses just as much, if not more, minus the insulin!
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: deadpan on March 30, 2012, 05:40:01 PM
the guy is running 30 FUCKIN IUS A  DAY  and 4 GRAMS of anabolics. do you have any idea how much 30 ius? is? three vials of GH every day? that's a shit ton of juice! jason genova would be a pro on that shit! there is no mystery as to how he is getting 'gains'. he 'hates everything phil heath stands for in terms of drug use' but uses just as much, if not more, minus the insulin!

i'm new here, can someone fill me in on this jason genova business? i know he likes starting a lot of shit over on MD but what's so special about this guy? he looks like an average curlbro.....is he an elaborate troll or something?

Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: aesthetics on March 30, 2012, 05:50:48 PM
to be fair, smoof is running generic blue tops so it's much less than 30iu of gh
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: Max B on March 30, 2012, 05:51:37 PM
the guy is running 30 FUCKIN IUS A  DAY  and 4 GRAMS of anabolics. do you have any idea how much 30 ius? is? three vials of GH every day? that's a shit ton of juice! jason genova would be a pro on that shit! there is no mystery as to how he is getting 'gains'. he 'hates everything phil heath stands for in terms of drug use' but uses just as much, if not more, minus the insulin!

you're an idiot.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: Hiitsmichael on March 30, 2012, 05:56:42 PM
the guy is running 30 FUCKIN IUS A  DAY  and 4 GRAMS of anabolics. do you have any idea how much 30 ius? is? three vials of GH every day? that's a shit ton of juice! jason genova would be a pro on that shit! there is no mystery as to how he is getting 'gains'. he 'hates everything phil heath stands for in terms of drug use' but uses just as much, if not more, minus the insulin!
Lmao, uses just as much? No fucking chance, not to mention there's a huge difference between 30+ iu of blue tops straight out of China and 30 + iu of pharmaceutical grade gh. Also Phil is full of synthol and likely a few more grams minimum of aas,  smoofs cycle is what a Guy like Phil considers his cruise
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: pellius on March 31, 2012, 03:47:13 AM
Lmao, uses just as much? No fucking chance, not to mention there's a huge difference between 30+ iu of blue tops straight out of China and 30 + iu of pharmaceutical grade gh. Also Phil is full of synthol and likely a few more grams minimum of aas,  smoofs cycle is what a Guy like Phil considers his cruise

And you're talking not just any blue tops. That's 30ius of Kami's blue tops. 3-4ius/vial max.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: Ventura55 on March 31, 2012, 02:40:33 PM
-TNE is usually testosterone base in a oil solution
-Test suspension is testosterone base in a water solution

Supposedly oil based is less painful, but water based gets absorbed quicker.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: abijahmaniaco on March 31, 2012, 06:20:37 PM
And you're talking not just any blue tops. That's 30ius of Kami's blue tops. 3-4ius/vial max.

i ran blue tops. bunk as shit.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: alphaanimal on March 31, 2012, 11:02:03 PM
ok back to post can any one tell me a formula for the tne dbol drol mix.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: alphaanimal on March 31, 2012, 11:04:23 PM
also i dont understand how guys like phil use synthol and there arms look so good. i was at the ronnie colman classic today and guys who were shooting that shit looked lumpy and terrible. and the shit was buldging in  one particular area as opposed to phils arms looking full every where. how do there use it is there a appropriate method that works better than the way guys with lumpy shit arms use.
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: randy841 on March 31, 2012, 11:31:25 PM
Oral Winstrol
"The drug has a high oral bioavailability, due to a C17 α-alkylation which allows the hormone to survive first-pass liver metabolism when ingested. It is because of this that stanozolol is also sold in tablet form."

In the case of winny with the oral form specially designed for oral digestion, can its bioavailability really be increased as an injectable? When one takes the oral form - how much is really wasted?

Or this scenario specifically applies to Anadrol/Dbol as used by smoofcat, orals that are not available as injectables?
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: whitewidow on April 01, 2012, 12:13:12 AM
i'm new here, can someone fill me in on this jason genova business? i know he likes starting a lot of shit over on MD but what's so special about this guy? he looks like an average curlbro.....is he an elaborate troll or something?


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your looking at the future of this sport! This genova guy is doing big things! :-\
Title: Re: ok totally never heard of this it was in smoofcat post i believe
Post by: deadpan on April 10, 2012, 06:43:22 PM
i'm new here, can someone fill me in on this jason genova business? i know he likes starting a lot of shit over on MD but what's so special about this guy? he looks like an average curlbro.....is he an elaborate troll or something?


[/quot

your looking at the future of this sport! This genova guy is doing big things! :-\

haha yes next ronnie coleman right there. ;D

also i dont understand how guys like phil use synthol and there arms look so good. i was at the ronnie colman classic today and guys who were shooting that shit looked lumpy and terrible. and the shit was buldging in  one particular area as opposed to phils arms looking full every where. how do there use it is there a appropriate method that works better than the way guys with lumpy shit arms use.

i remember reading a tutorial somewhere, basically you have to inject deep into the muscle so it pushes it out but you still get striations. it also takes multiple shots to space it out properly.