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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BioLayne on March 31, 2012, 03:17:12 PM
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If there are no cameras around? Like if i saw i'm your biggest fan but despite hard work dedication chikn brokli i still dont even have 16" arms
will they ever say
juice up brosicle?
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no
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no
then they are just a bad person?
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what do you mean by truth? As in their cycle?
Many pros have released their steroid cycle. It's your choice to believe it or not.
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what do you mean by truth? As in their cycle?
Many pros have released their steroid cycle. It's your choice to believe it or not.
truth as in how big can u get natural
which is apparently small as fuck
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actually, way back in 1998, I think... Muscle media 2000 payed a pro 2 grand to reveal all.
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This is never a single reason for any professional athlete in any sport to acknowledge their drug use. Never.
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This is never a single reason for any professional athlete in any sport to acknowledge their drug use. Never.
arnold admits using dianabol etc in his explanation on the truths and falsehoods of pumping iron
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They use a lot of drugs.
Hope that helps. ;)
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truth as in how big can u get natural
which is apparently small as fuck
there's so many things to factor in to get that answer.
but a simple way to put it is a natural will never stand out in a t shirt.
natural lifters like myself have can have massive bicep and triceps which is great. But you will never have the bulging traps or 3 dimensional deltoids like a drug user. I have both great traps and delts, but those help fill out a shirt nicely.
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there's so many things to factor in to get that answer.
but a simple way to put it is a natural will never look impressive in a t shirt.
which really sucks since i don't go to the beach
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which really sucks since i don't go to the beach
I changed my response. I meant stand out.
I think I look pretty good in a t shirt. But when using performance enhancers... there are stand out body parts as mentioned above that will fill out a shirt and show you as a bodybuilder without even taking that shirt off.
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Every pro/wanna be pro wants $$$ for hormones ----> from sponsorships -----> they wont sponsor you if you admit to steroids. They have to say things like "hard work" and "protein shakes"
Admitting steroids = no $ for hormones
i told my dad who works in pharma and he said why dont they just advertise super drugs and make some serious money instead of chump change
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Nobody`s obligated to tell anyone about their using illegal substances any fucking way.
Stop worrying about stupid shit that`s been discussed two million times or more before and just train for YOU.
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They use a lot of drugs.
Hope that helps. ;)
You only attain this level of clarity after 40 years in the business.
Wes is on here busting his balls giving us this info for free, some appreciation is needed.
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Nobody`s obligated to tell anyone about their using illegal substances any fucking way.
Stop worrying about stupid shit that`s been discussed two million times or more before and just train for YOU.
but in the absolute best case scenario a natural can only achieve your physique which doesnt look impressive in a t shirt
so why train at all
most likely will not even get close to an physique like that but if you did it would still be a big nothing compared to the steroid brigade
and if you did do steroid you wouldf just waste away to even less than nothing once you come off
dennis bates was right all along
bodybuilding = pure evil
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LOL
Jesus Christ, Jaime cracks me up. ;D ;D
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LOL
Jesus Christ, Jaime cracks me up. ;D ;D
is he sarcastic or serious
i cant figure it out
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but in the absolute best case scenario a natural can only achieve your physique which doesnt look impressive in a t shirt
so why train at all
most likely will not even get close to an physique like that but if you did it would still be a big nothing compared to the steroid brigade
and if you did do steroid you wouldf just waste away to even less than nothing once you come off
dennis bates was right all along
bodybuilding = pure evil
what do you mean waste away after steroids?
Look at Dorian "The GOAT" Yates or Kevin Levrone. #1 and #5 on the official top 10 bodybuilding list.
Both have fantastic physiques to this day. You know why? They continue to train. Compare them to someone like Flex "Synthol" Wheeler who has oiled arms and a gut.
You will never look as good as you were on steroids. This should be obvious. But you don't lose all your gains. The GOAT is such a great example. He might not be as strong as he was on the doses, but he is still a massive dude and mighty strong.
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You only attain this level of clarity after 40 years in the business.
Wes is on here busting his balls giving us this info for free, some appreciation is needed.
Thank you young padawan! ;D
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but in the absolute best case scenario a natural can only achieve your physique which doesnt look impressive in a t shirt
so why train at all
most likely will not even get close to an physique like that but if you did it would still be a big nothing compared to the steroid brigade
and if you did do steroid you wouldf just waste away to even less than nothing once you come off
dennis bates was right all along
bodybuilding = pure evil
Yeah but why care,you`re not using gear and more than likely if you did,you`d never become a pro.
I look good without a shirt and I look athletic with one on......you don`t have to weigh 260 pounds to look good as you well know.
You have a damn good physique.........strive to make it better and it`ll be netter over time.
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what do you mean waste away after steroids?
Look at Dorian "The GOAT" Yates or Kevin Levrone. #1 and #5 on the official top 10 bodybuilding list.
Both have fantastic physiques to this day. You know why? They continue to train. Compare them to someone like Flex "Synthol" Wheeler who has oiled arms and a gut.
You will never look as good as you were on steroids. This should be obvious. But you don't lose all your gains. The GOAT is such a great example. He might not be as strong as he was on the doses, but he is still a massive dude and mighty strong.
wait a minute..... are you saying dorian is not using steroids currently?
i thought these guys that maintain some size are on "hrt" which is a fancy word for roids cruzing
i mean look at paul dillet and tom prince or what is left of them
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Yeah but why care,you`re not using gear and more than likely if you did,you`d never become a pro.
I look good without a shirt and I look athletic with one on......you don`t have to weigh 260 pounds to look good as you well know.
You have a damn good physique.........strive to make it better and it`ll be netter over time.
athletic, not bodybuilder.
A bodybuilder will stand out when the delts bulge and push out the shirt. The traps raising and pushing through the shirt. The massive back stretching the shirt.
Athletic I think as someone at a low body fat, prominent forearm veins, bicep veins, and decent size arms. This is like me. I do not have dimensional deltoids. My traps are good, but not bodybuilder drug user good.
However my height makes me more noticeable. Now if I was short I would not look impressive. Put me side by side to Jay Cutler and I will dwarf him and look better. He will be wider, but not in a good way. Even his deltoids and traps won't make him look better.
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Yeah but why care,you`re not using gear and more than likely if you did,you`d never become a pro.
I look good without a shirt and I look athletic with one on......you don`t have to weigh 260 pounds to look good as you well know.
You have a damn good physique.........strive to make it better and it`ll be netter over time.
it's never about being a pro, you have to be crazy to be a pro and have all them lights flashing cameras creepy lonny teepers etc
it must just be so great to be a beast
like this one time there was a beast entering a factory where i was working. he was from an outside company no one knew him
everybody left their post and literally like 20 people were just staring like holy fuck look at this son of a bitch. he was tall and super massive like cartoonish
and these folks would come up to me and be like "hey layne... i know you lift weights, get a load of this guy, now that's a body builder" and i would just fill up with disappointment anger fuckingfucking fucking fuck
but i can't complain for natural honestly i've been fortunate
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LOL
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athletic, not bodybuilder.
A bodybuilder will stand out when the delts bulge and push out the shirt. The traps raising and pushing through the shirt. The massive back stretching the shirt.
Athletic I think as someone at a low body fat, prominent forearm veins, bicep veins, and decent size arms. This is like me. I do not have dimensional deltoids. My traps are good, but not bodybuilder drug user good.
However my height makes me more noticeable. Now if I was short I would not look impressive. Put me side by side to Jay Cutler and I will dwarf him and look better. He will be wider, but not in a good way. Even his deltoids and traps won't make him look better.
Hey Jake,how `bout posting a pic of your tremendous musculature.....seriousl y.
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Hey Jake,how `bout posting a pic of your tremendous musculature.....seriousl y.
he said he looks like you pretty much
"this is like me...athletic" and he called you athletic
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it's never about being a pro, you have to be crazy to be a pro and have all them lights flashing cameras creepy lonny teepers etc
it must just be so great to be a beast
like this one time there was a beast entering a factory where i was working. he was from an outside company no one knew him
everybody left their post and literally like 20 people were just staring like holy fuck look at this son of a bitch. he was tall and super massive like cartoonish
and these folks would come up to me and be like "hey layne... i know you lift weights, get a load of this guy, now that's a body builder" and i would just fill up with disappointment anger fuckingfucking fucking fuck
but i can't complain for natural honestly i've been fortunate
(http://www.fitoverfat.com/wp-content/uploads/laynefront.jpg)
I`m confused,but not for long,are you PNS or just another YAGR gimmick?
I think I know the answer so real dire need to reply.
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he said he looks like you pretty much
"this is like me...athletic" and he called you athletic
He has to prove it though.
Are you his lawyer? ;D
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wes you always say just look at yourself and stuff and that is probably good advice but i wonder
do you train in a natural gym or something
i just get so fucking pissed off with all these juice bags dwarfing me every single time i enter a gym
especially since they are so arrogant and pretentious the lot of them
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He has to prove it though.
Are you his lawyer? ;D
i just stand up against bullies that's all
wish someone had done this for me during my childhood
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Thank you young padawan! ;D
I would like some sort of title to signify that i am a disciple of your teachings.
Like an elf but cooler, maybe disciple? apostle? minion?
As for the t shirt thing, i just buy all my tshirts extra small and stretchy, i burst out of them, it looks gay too but i don't really give a shit.
The way you look in clothes really depends on structure tbh.
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wes you always say just look at yourself and stuff and that is probably good advice but i wonder
do you train in a natural gym or something
i just get so fucking pissed off with all these juice bags dwarfing me every single time i enter a gym
especially since they are so arrogant and pretentious the lot of them
Get on gear or change gyms.
You should be training for yourself anyway.........who cares about the rest of the gym when you`re training?
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Hey Jake,how `bout posting a pic of your tremendous musculature.....seriousl y.
I wasn't insulting you... no need to get defensive.
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I would like some sort of title to signify that i am a disciple of your teachings.
Like an elf but cooler, maybe disciple? apostle? minion?
As for the t shirt thing, i just buy all my tshirts extra small and stretchy, i burst out of them, it looks gay too but i don't really give a shit.
The way you look in clothes really depends on structure tbh.
We could call ourseves Team Smedium T-Shirts................waddya` think?
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I wasn't insulting you... no need to get defensive.
Not defensive,just asked for a pic,why so sensitive it wasn`t a trick question?
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I would like some sort of title to signify that i am a disciple of your teachings.
Like an elf but cooler, maybe disciple? apostle? minion?
As for the t shirt thing, i just buy all my tshirts extra small and stretchy, i burst out of them, it looks gay too but i don't really give a shit.
The way you look in clothes really depends on structure tbh.
this is just so wrong
and it's disturbing how many t shirt companies make them like this
too short sleeves
makes it look faggy
wear it as a skinny is bad enough
but as a natural bodybuilder
you will look like a loser desperate for attention
and you will feel very very small when a juiced up beast who is wearing a nice shirt makes you look like an awkward 16 year old homo
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I wasn't insulting you... no need to get defensive.
he considers it an insult because you say you are on his level and not provide evidence of this unlikely claim
i am analyzing the situation not taking any sides
proceed
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he considers it an insult because you say you are on his level and not provide evidence of this unlikely claim
i am analyzing the situation not taking any sides
proceed
No he said he`d dwarf Cutler,that`s why I asked.
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no this is where I disagree on the t shirt thing. I knew someone would bring this up.
A proper fitting shirt shouldn't be skin tight. it should not be cutting off circulation or squeezing your whole body. a good fitting shirt should be comfortable and have room to breathe - especially for the gym. the muscles will push out and tighten up the shirt.
if you wear to tight of a shirt as a low body fat natural it won't look impressive at all. Your shoulders will stand out in a bad way and you will look narrow.
This goes the same for those pro bodybuilders who were XXL shirts. It makes them look fat and not impressive. The only thing visible is big biceps. You can see fat guys in the gyms with XXL shirts and fat biceps. Not impressive.
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this is just so wrong
and it's disturbing how many t shirt companies make them like this
too short sleeves
makes it look faggy
wear it as a skinny is bad enough
but as a natural bodybuilder
you will look like a loser desperate for attention
and you will feel very very small when a juiced up beast who is wearing a nice shirt makes you look like an awkward 16 year old homo
I buy a lot of more t shirts from womens stores, the sleeves show off most of my delt striations.
You really need to live a little bro.
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No he said he`d dwarf Cutler,that`s why I asked.
ha yes that was pretty insane
but he said he was tall so he means dwarfing like this perhaps
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TWO YAGR GIMMICKS = ALWAYS A FUN TIME!
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It's PNS, and I'm laughing my ass off. ;D
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We could call ourseves Team Smedium T-Shirts................waddya` think?
Rolls off the tongue. ;D
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Yeah but why care,you`re not using gear and more than likely if you did,you`d never become a pro.
I look good without a shirt and I look athletic with one on......you don`t have to weigh 260 pounds to look good as you well know.
You have a damn good physique.........strive to make it better and it`ll be netter over time.
LOL
YO0U ARE FUCKING 1 DIMENSIONAL
STOP TRYING TO FLATTER YOURSELF
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Rolls off the tongue. ;D
It`s got a good ring to it doesn`t it ? :D
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No he said he`d dwarf Cutler,that`s why I asked.
I do dwarf Cutler. I am much taller than him at 6 ft 2.
Put Cutler in a shirt next to me in a shirt and I will look better. I have big arms, especially my triceps. I have a big back and decent width. What I don't have is drug bulging deltoids or steroid traps. As I said my traps are decent for a natural. not the best.
Cutler has width, but as I said not in a good way. Not even good as a bodybuilder. He is the fridge. Next to me in a shirt he will look like a fat dwarf.
Put me next to Dorian "The GOAT" Yates any year 1990 onwards and he will dwarf me. He is taller than Cutler but still shorter than me.
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I do dwarf Cutler. I am much taller than him at 6 ft 2.
Put Cutler in a shirt next to me in a shirt and I will look better. I have big arms, especially my triceps. I have a big back and decent width. What I don't have is drug bulging deltoids or steroid traps. As I said my traps are decent for a natural. not the best.
Cutler has width, but as I said not in a good way. Not even good as a bodybuilder. He is the fridge. Next to me in a shirt he will look like a fat dwarf.
Put me next to Dorian "The GOAT" Yates any year 1990 onwards and he will dwarf me. He is taller than Cutler but still shorter than me.
post a pic "big guy" ::) ::) ::) ::)
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you can always shoot me a pm with a pic i will review it without publishing
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like if i saw i'm your biggest fan but despite hard work dedication chikn brokli i still dont even have 16" arms
will they ever say
juice up brosicle?
no,,
this will be our typical reponse,,
you coe to me say ,,how much insulina you take to get to this weight...considering you the question asker are lean bodybuilder ,,
my repond to you will be a smile ...and if like i didnt hear or understood what you said ... this is EVEN if you look like a smaller bodybuildf...still this is what you will get ....A SMILE AND THEN SAYING WHAT? OR HUH? OR EXCUSE ME CAN YOU SAY AGAIN ...
then you ask the question again slower... my reponse will be dependent on what i think of you rlook ,, usualy it wil be guded tward food talk ,, i say i just eat a lot and every 2 hours with out skiping any meal ,,
now...at times if you peristsnat and you look like a fella that knows his hormones well and i can sense you have long time in the cult ....then i will go and say something about 3 iu insulina with morning meal and 2 iu gh a day the insulina i will probbaly say we taek 2 times a day 3 iu morning and then 3 iu lunch ... then i will also add if i like you that i take 200 mg cyp doctor prescribed
when i say i in the posting above i mean any profesional bodybuilders in real life and to be honest....any top amatuer ,, it is americano mentality its psycology more than other things,, fellas in americana ashamed tremendesly of intake of hormones,, if you can pass as natural ....and yet hormonized...it is big achievment ,, you can lie to many and many wil believe it ,, even hormonized fellas...look in layne nortom he lies his tetth for so many years and some hormonized fellas believe lol ,, its because he has a flat look to his muscles that make you believe it is achievable with out hormones...
generaly speaking what you see here with me gh15...you need to wake up every single day and say THANK YOU DEAR LORD IN THE SKY THAT SENT US GH15 ,, im telling you what i do here is something that many want to murder me for
gh15 approved
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If u want ur questions to be answered
donīt ask bodybuiliders about drugs.
ask guruīs. They will talk to you (if they look at you and see that you have little knowlegde about stuff.)
Iīve already did some questions to Frank Mcgrath, he answered like Gh15 said: "oh?" "What?" "eat protein shakes every 2h."
that bullshit. But ive asked things to trainers, they will say something if they like your face.
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there's so many things to factor in to get that answer.
but a simple way to put it is a natural will never stand out in a t shirt.
LOL speak for yourself.
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LOL speak for yourself.
I stand out due to my height. But you put me side by side The GOAT who is shorter and I would get dwarfed. I dwarf people like Cutler because he is small and looks fat. His baggy clothes and weak forearms don't help his appearance in a shirt.
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no,,
this will be our typical reponse,,
you coe to me say ,,how much insulina you take to get to this weight...considering you the question asker are lean bodybuilder ,,
my repond to you will be a smile ...and if like i didnt hear or understood what you said ... this is EVEN if you look like a smaller bodybuildf...still this is what you will get ....A SMILE AND THEN SAYING WHAT? OR HUH? OR EXCUSE ME CAN YOU SAY AGAIN ...
then you ask the question again slower... my reponse will be dependent on what i think of you rlook ,, usualy it wil be guded tward food talk ,, i say i just eat a lot and every 2 hours with out skiping any meal ,,
now...at times if you peristsnat and you look like a fella that knows his hormones well and i can sense you have long time in the cult ....then i will go and say something about 3 iu insulina with morning meal and 2 iu gh a day the insulina i will probbaly say we taek 2 times a day 3 iu morning and then 3 iu lunch ... then i will also add if i like you that i take 200 mg cyp doctor prescribed
when i say i in the posting above i mean any profesional bodybuilders in real life and to be honest....any top amatuer ,, it is americano mentality its psycology more than other things,, fellas in americana ashamed tremendesly of intake of hormones,, if you can pass as natural ....and yet hormonized...it is big achievment ,, you can lie to many and many wil believe it ,, even hormonized fellas...look in layne nortom he lies his tetth for so many years and some hormonized fellas believe lol ,, its because he has a flat look to his muscles that make you believe it is achievable with out hormones...
generaly speaking what you see here with me gh15...you need to wake up every single day and say THANK YOU DEAR LORD IN THE SKY THAT SENT US GH15 ,, im telling you what i do here is something that many want to murder me for
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Well put GH15.
This is the dream of every "trusted" natural liar. They live for this admiration and praise.
Competitive users are right to convey their usage only to the selected few. And they have no obligation whatsoever to do so.
One thing i've noted is that international competing IFBB pro's are more open about their usage than are North American BBs.
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I along with a few friends went to the 2011 IFBB Toronto Pro Supershow with a international competing colleague in the mens open division sponsored by Ron Hache.
In public, when someone asked him anything, he simply gave the same politically correct answer about how disciplined he is with his training and eating. ONLY, in close quarters too fellow users (a few of us) did he say anything at all befitting his character. No athlete worth their weight in salt can go the route of suggesting to the masses they are all drugs. Nor are they obligated in any way shape or form. Their character and persona they put out is all they have to make a living on. He got one Swedish drink sponsor that day (final signing was to be done later), another $2500 from ********* for a speaking seminar in the next week, and a $8200 stipend monthly from a well known ********** for 12 months.
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not only that...but we cant compete many times and maintain condition and improve...with out hormones,, you wont be able to do nothing in bodybuild with out hormones,, you may be able to walk around do one competition a year...in your local country club weighin 161 lb 5'10 as natural...6%...then go back to your nothing 175lb 8% and look lik eyou never touched a weight in your life with shirt on ...this is natural for you
bodybuild = A L L D R U G S
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