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http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/03/31/2-dead-12-hurt-in-mass-shooting-in-north-miami
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Bloody rampage sparked by disrespect at Miami-Dade wake
Miami Herald ^ | March 31, 2012 | Monique O. Madan, David Ovalle and Patricia Mazzei
Posted on April 1, 2012 9:21:23 AM EDT by Zakeet
The mass shooting that killed two people and wounded 12 others near North Miami began with a perceived sign of disrespect at the wake of a man who had jumped to his death from a shopping mall parking garage.
The act of reaching into the casket to touch the body of 21-year-old Morvin Andre escalated into a deadly conflict among gang members who opened fire into a gathering of mourners.
They had gone to the Funeraria Latina funeral home Friday night to grieve for Andre, who had died March 16 after jumping from a parking garage at Aventura Mall. The remembrance of his death turned into one of the bloodiest public shootings in recent South Florida history.
The end of Andre’s life was traumatic, but in a different way.
He had tried to use a stolen platinum American Express card to buy something — possibly a belt — at Bloomingdale’s, according to Aventura police. Store employees suspected credit-card fraud.
Andre took off, running into the mall’s parking garage and then up a stairwell to the fourth floor. From the floor below, employees called out that they just wanted to ask him some questions.
Instead, Andre jumped. It was a 22-and-a-half-foot drop.
(Excerpt) Read more at miamiherald.com ...
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7 Palmdale boyes arrested in attack on teen
Daily News, Los Angeles ^ | 3/30/12 | AP
Posted on April 1, 2012 6:00:54 AM EDT by Haddit
PALMDALE - Authorities say seven black teens have been arrested in an attack on a 15-year-old Hispanic boy in Palmdale that is being investigated as a hate crime.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailynews.com ...
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Darwinism at its finest, anyone that is going to run to the top floor and jump off because they failed at committing credit card fraud.. well... yeah.....
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Darwinism at its finest, anyone that is going to run to the top floor and jump off because they failed at committing credit card fraud.. well... yeah.....
The longer this Zimmerman matter goes on and the race hustlers do their thing, the more sick of this I get.
The thugs like Obama Jesse al the msm whores etc make me increasingly not give a damn any more.
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http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/03/31/2-dead-12-hurt-in-mass-shooting-in-north-miami
what do Jessie, Al, Obama, MSM and 240 have to do with a bunch of gangbangers in Miami?
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:). Selective outrage by left.
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:). Selective outrage by left.
what does that mean?
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what does that mean?
I think his point is that the Trayvon Martin case shouldn't be getting 1/10th the coverage that this shooting gets, yet this shooting is barely a blip in news coverage while the Trayvon Martin shooting has been all over the news for the past few days.
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I think his point is that the Trayvon Martin case shouldn't be getting 1/10th the coverage that this shooting gets, yet this shooting is barely a blip in news coverage while the Trayvon Martin shooting has been all over the news for the past few days.
are you 333' spokeperson ?
I asked him the question because I want to hear his answer
here are some questions for you
you're aware this just happened 48 hours ago right
how soon after the Martin case did you hear about it
were the shooters in the Miama incident detained by the police and then released
what would be the appropriate level of "outrage" by MSM ..... on down to 240 at this point for the incident in Miami (we'll ignore the obvious fact that this story just happened 48 hours ago and is IN the MSM)
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No I am not his spokesperson. Getting a little testy, are we? ;) Did I touch a nerve?
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No I am not his spokesperson. Getting a little testy, are we? ;) Did I touch a nerve?
not at all
just that if I ask 333's opinion it's because I want his opinion and not yours
feel free to address the questions I asked you or ignore them if you prefer...or have no good answers
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:)
Straw - maybe obama can adress the 14 shot in chacago as well?
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Straw - maybe obama can adress the 14 shot in chacago as well?
Not familiar with that one
Did someone stalk and shoot 14 unarmed people and then get detained and released by the police?
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Not familiar with that one
Did someone stalk and shoot 14 unarmed people and then get detained and released by the police?
you mean after being attacked punched in the face and his head being bounced off the sidewalk?
you see two can play that game.
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you mean after being attacked punched in the face and his head being bounced off the sidewalk?
you see two can play that game.
Except we know for a fact that Zimmerman stalked Martin and we know for a fact that Zimmerman shot Martin. We don't know that Martin attacked Zimmerman or that he was punched or had his head slammed on the cement. For all we know Zimmerman attacked Martin and he was just defending himself. This seems the much more likely scenario since Zimmerman was pursuing Martin
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:). Race pimps like obama only care about crime when they can explit it.
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Except we know for a fact that Zimmerman stalked Martin and we know for a fact that Zimmerman shot Martin. We don't know that Martin attacked Zimmerman or that he was punched or had his head slammed on the cement. For all we know Zimmerman attacked Martin and he was just defending himself. This seems the much more likely scenario since Zimmerman was pursuing Martin
we know that zimmerman followed him for a moment and then was told he didnt need to do that. Did he stop and return to his truck soon after to be attacked?
we know that eye witnesses say the saw trayvon over zimmerman with him yelling for help.
For all we know zimmerman was returning to his truck and got attacked...
again two can play that game...
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we know that zimmerman followed him for a moment and then was told he didnt need to do that. Did he stop and return to his truck soon after to be attacked?
we know that eye witnesses say the saw trayvon over zimmerman with him yelling for help.
For all we know zimmerman was returning to his truck and got attacked...
again two can play that game...
you're the only one playing games
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if the miami shooter uses 'stand your ground' as an issue and has local LEO shady connections, yes, I'll pay attention.
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Despite having a licensed, loaded firearm in his possession, Zimmerman should have let himself get beaten to a pulp by a juvenile delinquent.
That would have been the appropriate way to handle the situation.
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Despite having a licensed, loaded firearm in his possession, Zimmerman should have let himself get beaten to a pulp by a juvenile delinquent.
That would have been the appropriate way to handle the situation.
Agreed.
Clearly the right thing to do is to trust that the guy splitting your head open on the sidewalk is going to have pity on you and stop before your brains spill out the gash in the back of your head.
I mean, wouldnt you trust the guy who's trying to coat the sidewalk with your cranial matter?
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This entire Trayvon Martin bullshit is going to get ugly real fucking fast. EVERY American whether you're a card toting KKK member or June fucking Clever better take notice. This shit could make the Watts riot look like a game of patty cake at a preschool. Seriously! This is one fucking thing the US does NOT need right now. A fucking race war, especially over such a stuipd ass incident. Yeah so a 17 year old thug black kid was shot dead by a stupid ass fat chubby hispanic looking piece of garbage. It's called social darwinism like someone else said. There are A HELL of a lot more important issues facing this country.
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you're the only one playing games
Im sorry, I mean Im not the only one who can make up assumptions...::)
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This entire Trayvon Martin bullshit is going to get ugly real fucking fast. EVERY American whether you're a card toting KKK member or June fucking Clever better take notice. This shit could make the Watts riot look like a game of patty cake at a preschool. Seriously! This is one fucking thing the US does NOT need right now. A fucking race war, especially over such a stuipd ass incident. Yeah so a 17 year old thug black kid was shot dead by a stupid ass fat chubby hispanic looking piece of garbage. It's called social darwinism like someone else said. There are A HELL of a lot more important issues facing this country.
And we have only the fucking media to blame for it... if they hadnt decided to twist it around for their own ratings no one would have ever fucking known or cared.... and if they do ignite riots, Im sure we'll face another loss of liberty by the government overreacting and trying to contain the situation, not to mention the people that might finally get sick of having to walk on eggshells around the black community all the time.
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Im sorry, I mean Im not the only one who can make up assumptions...::)
"make up" assumptions
aren't all assumption in essence "made up" i.e speculation... or they would be facts
the only facts we know of in this case are
1. Zimmerman was at some point following Martin
2. Zimmerman shot Martin
Everything else is an assumption on one side or other
I dont' think there are any eyewitnesses of the events immediately prior to the shooting or of the shooting itself
If I were Martin and I stalked and then confronted someone and then shot him I assume I would be tempted to make up a story such as the one which has been presented in the media as his side of the story
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"make up" assumptions
aren't all assumption in essence "made up" i.e speculation... or they would be facts
the only facts we know of in this case are
1. Zimmerman was at some point following Martin
2. Zimmerman shot Martin
Everything else is an assumption on one side or other
I dont' think there are any eyewitnesses of the events immediately prior to the shooting or of the shooting itself
If I were Martin and I stalked and then confronted someone and then shot him I assume I would be tempted to make up a story such as the one which has been presented in the media as his side of the story
and the wounds zimmerman had, as well as the eye witness testimony?
those arent facts?
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and the wounds zimmerman had, as well as the eye witness testimony?
those arent facts?
what wounds - haven't seen anything that looks like proof but if you have some info then post it
to my knowledge there are no "eyewitnesses" to the confrontation or the shooting ....only after the fact
Even this woman is not an eyewitness to the actual event
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the only facts we know of in this case are
1. Zimmerman was at some point following Martin
2. Zimmerman shot Martin
Well, we can completely agree on that.
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what wounds - haven't seen anything that looks like proof but if you have some info then post it
to my knowledge there are no "eyewitnesses" to the confrontation or the shooting ....only after the fact
Even this woman is not an eyewitness to the actual event
look around 240 posted some idiotic thread about this that had pics showing a wound on the back of zimmermans head.
Also do a google search a witness or two saw trayvon on top of zimmerman with him yelling for help.
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look around 240 posted some idiotic thread about this that had pics showing a wound on the back of zimmermans head.
Also do a google search a witness or two saw trayvon on top of zimmerman with him yelling for help.
did they see this or just say they heard it
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did they see this or just say they heard it
Its on here in one of the threads. There was at least one of a young black kid talking about seeing TM on top of Zimmerman.
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Its on here in one of the threads. There was at least one of a young black kid talking about seeing TM on top of Zimmerman.
ok - well I'll look for it and if you find it then please post
you do know that is no proof whatsover as to who instigated the confrontation right?
same goes for the bruise, cut, scratch whatever he supposedly had on his head
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ok - well I'll look for it and if you find it then please post
you do know that is no proof whatsover as to who instigated the confrontation right?
same goes for the bruise, cut, scratch whatever he supposedly had on his head
Of course - thats what Ive been arguing the whole time, that there is no way of knowing really what happened, but from the evidence presented it looks as though he's going to walk.
Like I said in the other thread -
If they can prove that TM was attacked 1st, Zimmerman should go to jail (and will if they can prove it).
If not, he's going to walk, as there is a pretty big gash in the back of Zimmermans head and a couple of neighbors are saying he was attacked.
Ive never defended this kid - just argued with 240 that he cant know that he's guilty or what kind of guy he is based on the evidence provided. If he's guilty he's guilty and should go to jail. But it doesnt really look like he broke any laws, unless some evidence shows up to the contrary.
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did they see this or just say they heard it
heard one guys opened his window b/c he heard someone yelling "help" when he did there was a guy standing over another guy who was yelling for help then said he was going call the cops and went to get a phone heard a gun shot and went back and the guy who was standing over the guy on the ground before was on the ground shot...
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i dont care if the guy hated the kid walking thru his neighborhood because of his skin color, or cause he was in good shape when the shooter was a fatass. I dont care if he hated him for his shoes or his choice of candy.
I care that he purposefully entered a situation where he believed the guy was on drugs and had something in his hand from his waistband - shot him - lied about being beaten on the sidewalk for ONE MINUTE - and then tried to ass-rape florida gun laws for his defense.
THAT is why I think the guy is a bag of shit. not cause of some race thing.
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i dont care if the guy hated the kid walking thru his neighborhood because of his skin color, or cause he was in good shape when the shooter was a fatass. I dont care if he hated him for his shoes or his choice of candy.
I care that he purposefully entered a situation where he believed the guy was on drugs and had something in his hand from his waistband - shot him - lied about being beaten on the sidewalk for ONE MINUTE - and then tried to ass-rape florida gun laws for his defense.
THAT is why I think the guy is a bag of shit. not cause of some race thing.
Doesnt matter. If he hasnt committed a crime, he hasnt committed a crime, no matter how much you hate him. He's not guilty because you dont like him.
Nothing that you said is a crime. Everything you said is an assumption of character that may or may not be true, but none of it is illegal.
And I like how you claim he lied about being beaten when he has a huge head gash and witness say they saw TM on top of him.
You just never stop interjecting your made up opinions into a situation, do you?
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Doesnt matter. If he hasnt committed a crime, he hasnt committed a crime, no matter how much you hate him. He's not guilty because you dont like him.
Nothing that you said is a crime. Everything you said is an assumption of character that may or may not be true, but none of it is illegal.
And I like how you claim he lied about being beaten when he has a huge head gash and witness say they saw TM on top of him.
You just never stop interjecting your made up opinions into a situation, do you?
i dislike him because his lawyer FLIPFLOPPED from last friday (when he told anderson cooper it was clear stand your ground didn't apply), to sunday, (when he told ABC morning show that it DID apply)
plus he just sounds like a fat prick to me. he was angry and calling the kid name. he claimed the kid was on drugs and pulled something from waist. Then he pursued him into the dark.
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i dislike him because his lawyer FLIPFLOPPED from last friday (when he told anderson cooper it was clear stand your ground didn't apply), to sunday, (when he told ABC morning show that it DID apply)
plus he just sounds like a fat prick to me. he was angry and calling the kid name. he claimed the kid was on drugs and pulled something from waist. Then he pursued him into the dark.
Thats all well and good. But NONE of what you says makes him guilty of anything, and the pulled something from the waist is another lie.
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what does that mean?
They're outraged about a 17 year old man that was killed in self defense, but they don't have a problem all the black on black and black on white crime.
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i dislike him because his lawyer FLIPFLOPPED from last friday (when he told anderson cooper it was clear stand your ground didn't apply), to sunday, (when he told ABC morning show that it DID apply)
plus he just sounds like a fat prick to me. he was angry and calling the kid name. he claimed the kid was on drugs and pulled something from waist. Then he pursued him into the dark.
And the fact you dislike him means what in a court of law? So if I don't like you I should be able to go ahead and file assault charges on you for wanting to shoot two men who happened to look at you?
You sound like a fucking retard and your argument is the most asinine one I've ever seen. "I don't like the guy so he should be arrested". Stay in school, kid.