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Spot on commentary as usual
SOURCE: National Review-- reprinted in NY POST
MARCH 30, 2012 12:00 A.M.
The Murders That Don’t Count
In America, the lives of young black people are cheap, unless they happen to fit the right agenda.
By Rich Lowry
Rich Lowry
Delric Miller IV died in a hail of bullets a month ago. When someone fired 37 AK-47 rounds into his Detroit home at 4:30 a.m., he was mortally wounded while dozing on the couch. He was nine months old. No one made the multicolored teething ring he got for Christmas or his toy hammer into a national symbol of random violence.
Last year, Charinez Jefferson, 17, was shot and killed on a Chicago street. “She begged the shooter not to shoot her because she was pregnant,” a pastor explained. The alleged assailant, Timothy Jones, 18, shot her in the head, chest and back after seeing her walking with a rival gang member. New York Times columnist Charles Blow did not write a column about Jefferson’s killing as a symbol of the perils of being a young black woman in America.
Last June, a stray bullet from a confrontation on a Brighton Beach, N.Y., boardwalk killed 16-year-old Tysha Jones as she sat on a bench. A 19-year-old man, out for revenge after an earlier scuffle on the boardwalk, was charged in the shooting. Tysha’s heartbroken mother was not featured on all the national TV shows.
In January, 12-year-old Kade’jah Davis was shot and killed when, allegedly, 19-year-old Joshua Brown showed up at her Detroit house to demand the return of a cellphone from Davis’ mother. When Brown didn’t get the phone, he fired shots through the front door. No one held high-profile street protests to denounce gunplay over such trifles.
Everything about the Trayvon Martin case is a matter of contention. About this, though, there should be no doubt: If Martin had been shot by a black classmate, if he had been caught in a random crossfire, if he had looked at a gang member the wrong way, his death would have been relegated to the back pages of the local newspaper. Not a cause, not even a curiosity: Just another dead young black man. Nothing to see here. Please, move on.
Jesse Jackson is right that “blacks are under attack.” According to a 2005 FBI report, blacks accounted for 13 percent of the population and 49 percent of all homicide victims. In 93 percent of the cases, the killer was black. Half of the victims were ages 17 to 29. That works out to 4,000 murders of young blacks in one year, overwhelmingly at the hands of other blacks. In the communities where these killings occur there is, to put it in Jackson’s inimitable terms, no justice and no peace.
There is no comparable epidemic of half-Hispanic neighborhood-watch volunteers like George Zimmerman shooting young black men. Nor is there an epidemic of cops doing the same. Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute notes that in New York City, there were nine civilian victims of police gunfire last year, whereas there were “several hundred black homicide victims in the city, almost all shot by other blacks or Hispanics, none of them given substantial press coverage.”
An allegedly racially motivated killing, though, gins up the outrage machine in a way the routine murder of young blacks doesn’t. Cable-TV outlets get to host fiery debates. Chin-stroking commentators get to urge more “dialogue.” Black leaders get to relive the glory of a civil-rights cause that won its major victories decades ago when it took real courage to be on the front lines. And everybody gets to evade the intraracial mayhem that blights the country’s inner cities.
An injustice may well have been done in the handling of the Martin shooting, but let’s not fool ourselves. Zimmerman could be arrested, convicted, and hanged tomorrow, and it will have no effect on the lives of young black people in communities beset by social disorder. Whatever happens to Zimmerman, the drip-drip of spilled blood will continue, all but ignored except in the police blotter. In America, the lives of young black people are cheap, unless they happen to fit the right agenda.
— Rich Lowry is the editor of National Review. He can be reached via e-mail: comments.lowry@nationalreview.com. © 2012 King Features Syndicate
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"According to a 2005 FBI report, blacks accounted for 13 percent of the population and 49 percent of all homicide victims. In 93 percent of the cases, the killer was black. Half of the victims were ages 17 to 29. That works out to 4,000 murders of young blacks in one year, overwhelmingly at the hands of other blacks. "
wow.
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"According to a 2005 FBI report, blacks accounted for 13 percent of the population and 49 percent of all homicide victims. In 93 percent of the cases, the killer was black. Half of the victims were ages 17 to 29. That works out to 4,000 murders of young blacks in one year, overwhelmingly at the hands of other blacks. "
wow.
Good lord.
Yet its racist if you point out the facts that blacks account for more violent murders than anyone else.
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did any of those murders involve the police detaining the shooters and then letting him/her go without charges?
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did any of those murders involve the police detaining the shooters and then letting him/her go without charges?
Go read the "known facts" thread, it explains why this is irrelevant.
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Go read the "known facts" thread, it explains why this is irrelevant.
irrelevent in the cases mentioned above?
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irrelevent in the cases mentioned above?
No, irrelevent in your argument.
What the Sanford PD did was perfectly in line with the law. Why this is even a story anymore is beyond me.
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No, irrelevent in your argument.
What the Sanford PD did was perfectly in line with the law. Why this is even a story anymore is beyond me.
my argument was about the incidents in George story
regardless of the law (or the city managers opinions/interpretation) in Florida it's not unexpected that the local citizens would be upset that an unarmed teenager who wasn't doing anything illegal was shot and killed
that's why it's a story
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I bet this is why Lowry wasn't on the McLaughlin Group this week. McLaughlin probably assigns someone else to the spot during times like this. He's does it to Pat Buchanan many times in the past.
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"According to a 2005 FBI report, blacks accounted for 13 percent of the population and 49 percent of all homicide victims. In 93 percent of the cases, the killer was black. Half of the victims were ages 17 to 29. That works out to 4,000 murders of young blacks in one year, overwhelmingly at the hands of other blacks. "
wow.
Unreal
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Andre mal blacken straw al doggity 240 et al?
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Andre mal blacken straw al doggity 240 et al?
dude
this thread has 10 posts and 3 of them are from me
you know my point of view
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dude
this thread has 10 posts and 3 of them are from me
you know my point of view
And all three Re total leftist communist progressive bullshit.
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And all three Re total leftist communist progressive bullshit.
is this supposed to be a comparison/contrast to the shooting of Treyvon Martin?
Other than the author of the story, who says these murders "don't count"
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is this supposed to be a comparison/contrast to the shooting of Treyvon Martin?
Other than the author of the story, who says these murders "don't count"
he daily slaughterhouse of black crime never gets mention unless there is a white in TJE mix.
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Not entirely true.
I think what got this going is the release of the 911 tapes. Until then it was considered an ordinary run of the mill murder just like many other murders that happen every day.
Then of course the plethora of talking blow hards on both sides got a hold of it.
Crazy stat on the murder percentages though. Shameful.
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anyone w any degree pf honesty knows the truth. The leftist progressive communists can cry all they want, we all TJE know. TJE truth.
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anyone w any degree pf honesty knows the truth. The leftist progressive communists can cry all they want, we all TJE know. TJE truth.
Ok John candy ::)
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Ok John candy ::)
black crime is a plague.
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Surprised more people don't know that most of the innercity murder rates are young blacks killing other young blacks...usually over drug territory.
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black crime is a plague.
Brainwashed racists hateful idiots are worse.
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he daily slaughterhouse of black crime never gets mention unless there is a white in TJE mix.
drinking a bit tonight ?
what is the relevance of the events in the article that George posted to the Martin case again?
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Brainwashed racists hateful idiots are worse.
LOL!!!
yeah ok moron.
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drinking a bit tonight ?
what is the relevance of the events in the article that George posted to the Martin case again?
It's a thugbama liberal conspiracy to convert our nation to communism and Kenyan nationalism.
George has a point though many murders are deemed run of the mill, why Straw do you think this is different.
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LOL!!!
yeah ok moron.
:D
Throw em in camps, heat up the ovens. The final solution to the commy problem. Do you have what it takes to do what needs to be done 333333?
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LOL!!!
yeah ok moron.
ok
at least you agree there is some comparison to the murders in the story Whorewell posted and the Martin case
right?
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:D
Throw em in camps, heat up the ovens. The final solution to the commy problem. Do you have what it takes to do what needs to be done 333333?
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I hope to let the animals kill themselves off.
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drinking a bit tonight ?
what is the relevance of the events in the article that George posted to the Martin case again?
Thought it was pretty clear. The "relevance" is that if the shooter in the Martin case was another black guy, it wouldn't have even been reported on, much less become the media circus it has now.
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Yeah, it's ok if they do that right? Because they are not people they are animals?
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ok
at least you agree there is some comparison to the murders in the story Whorewell posted and the Martin case
right?
No. Thug murder is way out of control.
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No. Thug murder is way out of control.
what's the comparison to the Martin case again?
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Thought it was pretty clear. The "relevance" is that if the shooter in the Martin case was another black guy, it wouldn't have even been reported on, much less become the media circus it has now.
It was 2 weeks before it started to get any attention. Anyone who did report on it knew the shooter was white yet nothing was becoming of it.
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It was 2 weeks before it started to get any attention. Anyone who did report on it knew the shooter was white yet nothing was becoming of it.
You honestly believe that if it had been a black guy who shot Trayvon that the story would have taken off like this? Even with the 911 tapes, which it seems were drastically edited by the news media, I don't think so. The media is who created the "racial" angle to try to grab ratings. As the article posted originally shows, the other killings were just as tragic, but no outrage or marches for any of those people. Why?
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Thought it was pretty clear. The "relevance" is that if the shooter in the Martin case was another black guy, it wouldn't have even been reported on, much less become the media circus it has now.
what is the connection to murder?
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what is the connection to murder?
C'mon, its obvious the media is portraying the Trayvon case as a murder, just like the ones mentioned in the article. Yet there was no media circus, no outrage, no messages from the President, etc... in those cases. Why?
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You honestly believe that if it had been a black guy who shot Trayvon that the story would have taken off like this? Even with the 911 tapes, which it seems were drastically edited by the news media, I don't think so. The media is who created the "racial" angle to try to grab ratings. As the article posted originally shows, the other killings were just as tragic, but no outrage or marches for any of those people. Why?
I am just telling you the facts. Fact: it didn't become a sensational story with all this attention until the tapes were released. About 2 weeks after it happened. There were a few reporters trying to bang that drum you are talking about, but until then not much was made of it. Of course your point about it being a white guy versus a black guy is a good one and valid but not in the context of this case as to what brought it from obscurity to a national stage. Because if that Was the case it would have had a national stage right when it happened.
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I am just telling you the facts. Fact: it didn't become a sensational story with all this attention until the tapes were released. About 2 weeks after it happened. There were a few reporters trying to bang that drum you are talking about, but until then not much was made of it. Of course your point about it being a white guy versus a black guy is a good one and valid but not in the context of this case as to what brought it from obscurity to a national stage. Because if that Was the case it would have had a national stage right when it happened.
But weren't the 911 tapes heavily edited to angle it into a racial thing? Was it that people might have only thought it was racially motivated, but the tapes "proved it?"
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But weren't the 911 tapes heavily edited to angle it into a racial thing? Was it that people might have only thought it was racially motivated, but the tapes "proved it?"
We're they? How so? Where did you get the idea that they were heavily edited? Lemme guess: a completely non biased, non opinionated, neutral, objective source? Have you listened to the tapes yourself? I have.
It wasn't the editing. It was a guy repeatedly screaming for help and then hearing a loud gun shot. When people found out it was a white guy who wasn't charged (and there may be legit reasns why, as skip posted which i havent read through) it became a national story.
The pressed swarmed on it like liberals at a government hand out or 33333333 at a liberal book burning.
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C'mon, its obvious the media is portraying the Trayvon case as a murder, just like the ones mentioned in the article. Yet there was no media circus, no outrage, no messages from the President, etc... in those cases. Why?
an unarmed person being killed by a guy who is stalking him and carrying a gun looks a lot like murder
right?
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an unarmed person being killed by a guy who is stalking him and carrying a gun looks a lot like murder
right?
Not when we are cleansing our country of liberal scum. It's not murder,it's the final solution.
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We're they? How so? Where did you get the idea that they were heavily edited? Lemme guess: a completely non biased, non opinionated, neutral, objective source? Have you listened to the tapes yourself? I have.
It wasn't the editing. It was a guy repeatedly screaming for help and then hearing a loud gun shot. When people found out it was a white guy who wasn't charged (and there may be legit reasns why, as skip posted which i havent read through) it became a national story.
The pressed swarmed on it like liberals at a government hand out or 33333333 at a liberal book burning.
I'm not talking about the screaming, I'm talking about the exchange between Zimmerman and the 911 operator. NBC news decided to edit out much of what was said according to Hannity.....yeah, I know, but we will see as it unfolds.......and the entire exchange came across very differently with the 911 operator asking him what the guy looked like and even asking his race, to which Zimmerman replied. I still think the main reasons it became such a big deal were more about the races of those involved and to a lesser extent the age of Trayvon.
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an unarmed person being killed by a guy who is stalking him and carrying a gun looks a lot like murder
right?
Sure, that was my point. So if it does and the other cases were also murders, why no outrage over those? Why no Al, Jesse, etc... or Spike Lee for any of those cases?
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Sure, that was my point. So if it does and the other cases were also murderswhy no outrage over those? , Why no Al, Jesse, etc... or Spike Lee for any of those cases?
maybe because those other cases were declared murders and this case wasn't
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I'm not talking about the screaming, I'm talking about the exchange between Zimmerman and the 911 operator. NBC news decided to edit out much of what was said according to Hannity.....yeah, I know, but we will see as it unfolds.......and the entire exchange came across very differently with the 911 operator asking him what the guy looked like and even asking his race, to which Zimmerman replied. I still think the main reasons it became such a big deal were more about the races of those involved and to a lesser extent the age of Trayvon.
Not surprised. It's a great way to feed a young fire.
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Two arrested in brutal beating in Seminole
orlandosentinel.com ^ | 04/02/2012 | Gary Taylor
Julius Ricardo Bender, 18, and Yahaziel Isaac Israel, 19, face charges of attempted first-degree murder, burglary with assault or battery and armed burglary.
The victim, a 50-year-old Winter Springs man, whose name has not been released, is on life-support at Orlando Regional MediCal Center.
(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...
Where are those racist thugs jesse obama and al?
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Two arrested in brutal beating in Seminole
orlandosentinel.com ^ | 04/02/2012 | Gary Taylor
Julius Ricardo Bender, 18, and Yahaziel Isaac Israel, 19, face charges of attempted first-degree murder, burglary with assault or battery and armed burglary.
The victim, a 50-year-old Winter Springs man, whose name has not been released, is on life-support at Orlando Regional MediCal Center.
(Excerpt) Read more at orlandosentinel.com ...
Where are those racist thugs jesse obama and al?
Are these guys being charged with murder?