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Title: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 01, 2012, 02:10:47 PM
Fat                 135.2g           45.4%
Carbohydrates   92.7g   13.8%
Protein             273.5g   40.8%

Still have a protein shake to go before bed....
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: dfresh on April 01, 2012, 02:15:42 PM
wheres the carbs >:(
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 01, 2012, 02:50:09 PM
wheres the carbs >:(

dropping weight... who needs carbs when you have fat
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: dfresh on April 01, 2012, 03:34:18 PM
lol but they are tasty 8)
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 04, 2012, 04:42:33 PM
FAT= way underrated
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 05, 2012, 03:19:13 AM
FAT= way underrated

Yes. I've been holding my carbs around 100 grams and aiming to balance protein and fat in my diet (as percentages). Kick ass results so far.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Montague on April 05, 2012, 05:23:51 AM
Yes. I've been holding my carbs around 100 grams and aiming to balance protein and fat in my diet (as percentages). Kick ass results so far.


I think 100g/day is plenty for most people. The average human needs something like 50g just for normal cognitive functioning. I believe that 100g is probably sufficient for what we need, while being low enough to facilitate fat-loss.

Have you ever considered any type of "carb-cycling?"
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 07, 2012, 10:09:03 AM
Tried it years ago... Not sure what I would gain from it.

Breakfast today was 1lb of smoked salmon with capers and black pepper.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 08, 2012, 12:48:23 AM
Yes. I've been holding my carbs around 100 grams and aiming to balance protein and fat in my diet (as percentages). Kick ass results so far.

How many grams of fat? And what sources have you been using? Anything beyond the usual olive oil, beef, eggs, nuts, avocados, etc. Anything different?
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 08, 2012, 05:35:08 AM
How many grams of fat? And what sources have you been using? Anything beyond the usual olive oil, beef, eggs, nuts, avocados, etc. Anything different?

Almond and coconut oil as well as seal oil supplements
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 08, 2012, 01:56:33 PM
Almond and coconut oil as well as seal oil supplements

Yea I heard coconut oil is supposed to be pretty good stuff. A friend of mine told me the other day that apparently Almond butter is supposed to help one's quality of sleep tremendously. I think I may pick both of them up soon, definitely an easy and healthy way to add calories without stuffing yourself.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 08, 2012, 03:40:55 PM
Dude. I fried a chicken breast in coconut oil and added sesame seeds and hot sauce. Fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 08, 2012, 03:49:07 PM
Dude. I fried a chicken breast in coconut oil and added sesame seeds and hot sauce. Fucking ridiculous.

Shit that sounds good!
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 08, 2012, 04:25:25 PM
Shit that sounds good!

Tastes like junk food but it's perfectly balanced fat and protein.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 08, 2012, 04:49:52 PM
Tastes like junk food but it's perfectly balanced fat and protein.

I'll give it a go soon man. I think this week I'm going to drop my carbs in half and double my fat intake. We'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Montague on April 08, 2012, 05:18:37 PM
Fats provide more favorable effects than carbs from a body composition standpoint for most people.

It was popular in the 60's for many serious bodybuilders to consume protein powders mixed in heavy cream and whole raw eggs. They would also often eat untrimmed steak and tuna in oil, and be able to lean out eating these food sources and avoiding carbohydrates.
Cardio was not a prominent part of contest-prep back then.

Although plenty of guys knew, firsthand, the benefits of Ciba-grade Dianabol, training - and especially diet - were still pivotal.
Many top guys on the West coast followed the dietary instruction of Vince Gironda and Rheo Blair; the bases of their nutrition protocols were quite similar, and maybe one of the few topics the two men actually agreed on.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 08, 2012, 10:20:51 PM
Fats provide more favorable effects than carbs from a body composition standpoint for most people.

It was popular in the 60's for many serious bodybuilders to consume protein powders mixed in heavy cream and whole raw eggs. They would also often eat untrimmed steak and tuna in oil, and be able to lean out eating these food sources and avoiding carbohydrates.
Cardio was not a prominent part of contest-prep back then.

Although plenty of guys knew, firsthand, the benefits of Ciba-grade Dianabol, training - and especially diet - were still pivotal.
Many top guys on the West coast followed the dietary instruction of Vince Gironda and Rheo Blair; the bases of their nutrition protocols were quite similar, and maybe one of the few topics the two men actually agreed on.

Yep it was all high fat low carbs back then. It seems that we often desire a return to that era but disregard their fundamental dietary practices.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Montague on April 09, 2012, 01:56:08 AM
Yep it was all high fat low carbs back then. It seems that we often desire a return to that era but disregard their fundamental dietary practices.


Part of the reason is that there are too many self-professed "gurus" today.
"A calorie is a calorie," and other such bullshit rhetoric has invaded the exercise world, along with other polluting gimmicks and fads.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 09, 2012, 04:45:58 AM

Part of the reason is that there are too many self-professed "gurus" today.
"A calorie is a calorie," and other such bullshit rhetoric has invaded the exercise world, along with other polluting gimmicks and fads.


Agreed. I'm not a food radical. Just reducing carbs and upping healthy fats. Key word there is healthy.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Montague on April 09, 2012, 03:04:10 PM
...upping healthy fats. Key word there is healthy.


For anyone wishing to heighten their thinking on this topic:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/251810-list-of-foods-with-essential-fatty-acids/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/272678-list-of-foods-that-contain-medium-chain-triglycerides/
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 09, 2012, 06:24:58 PM

For anyone wishing to heighten their thinking on this topic:

http://www.livestrong.com/article/251810-list-of-foods-with-essential-fatty-acids/

http://www.livestrong.com/article/272678-list-of-foods-that-contain-medium-chain-triglycerides/



Thanks
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Montague on April 09, 2012, 06:31:51 PM

Thanks


Sure!
I'm considering incorporating more MCT's for improved energy during my next low carb cycle. I'm not a big proponent of "true" zero-carb protocols, although I may intersperse a few sporadically placed zero-carb days to see what happens.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 09, 2012, 07:35:19 PM

Sure!
I'm considering incorporating more MCT's for improved energy during my next low carb cycle. I'm not a big proponent of "true" zero-carb protocols, although I may intersperse a few sporadically placed zero-carb days to see what happens.

I think all macro nutrients are necessary in SOME amount. It's just a matter of tweaking those amounts to see what fits right. In other words, I'm not a big fan of the pure keto diet lol.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: deadz on April 09, 2012, 09:15:31 PM

Sure!
I'm considering incorporating more MCT's for improved energy during my next low carb cycle. I'm not a big proponent of "true" zero-carb protocols, although I may intersperse a few sporadically placed zero-carb days to see what happens.
You know nutrition. Your posts on nutrition are always informative. You should mod this board.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Montague on April 10, 2012, 02:23:24 AM
You know nutrition. Your posts on nutrition are always informative. You should mod this board.


Thanks.
This board appears to have enough mods, and I don't have to be one to contribute what I do.
Plus, I already mod the greatest bastion of Getbig lore: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?board=66.0
 ;)
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: BigCyp on April 13, 2012, 03:58:21 AM
Yep yep, definately the way to go to lean out and keep muscle.

When I cut, I change my percentages to up the protein, fat and keep to carbs to 100g a day max.

Obviously I get these from whole/healthy sources, and cut out all junk food apart from 1 cheat meal every 10 days when I have a 'high carb day' (which is still wholegrain sourced, apart from the sugar in the cheat meal)

This along with fasted cardio and some good old ECA, and I get fkn ripped lol.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 14, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
Agreed. I'm not a food radical. Just reducing carbs and upping healthy fats. Key word there is healthy.

Hey WOOO, have you ever heard of or used Udo's Oil?

Looks like it gets pretty good reviews and has a very comprehensive profile.
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 14, 2012, 04:35:50 PM
Hey WOOO, have you ever heard of or used Udo's Oil?

Looks like it gets pretty good reviews and has a very comprehensive profile.

Nah... based on the google search the composition is something like
    organic flax seed oil;
    organic sunflower seed oil;
    organic sesame seed oil;
    rice and oat germ oils;
    organic coconut oil;
    organic evening primrose oil;
    lecithin (guaranteed GMO-free);
    vitamin E;
    antioxidants (tocotrienols); and
    rosemary oil.

anyway... i eat flax seed oil, coconut oil, almond oil, macadamia nut oil, seal oil (supplement) and olive oil...

I figure i am getting a balance of EFAs
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 14, 2012, 05:00:38 PM
Nah... based on the google search the composition is something like
    organic flax seed oil;
    organic sunflower seed oil;
    organic sesame seed oil;
    rice and oat germ oils;
    organic coconut oil;
    organic evening primrose oil;
    lecithin (guaranteed GMO-free);
    vitamin E;
    antioxidants (tocotrienols); and
    rosemary oil.

anyway... i eat flax seed oil, coconut oil, almond oil, macadamia nut oil, seal oil (supplement) and olive oil...

I figure i am getting a balance of EFAs

Yea I just wondered as it seems to be a pretty good all in one supplement, although a bit pricey. Do you take any fish oil?
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 14, 2012, 05:03:39 PM
Yea I just wondered as it seems to be a pretty good all in one supplement, although a bit pricey. Do you take any fish oil?

yup, used to... switched to seal oil for a bit...
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 14, 2012, 05:08:20 PM
today's breakdown including 16oz of red wine:

Fat                   112.6g   42.7%
Sodium           2,520.5mg   
Carbohydrates   139.2g   23.5%
Protein           200.1g   33.8%


gotta do some cardio soon (about an hour of elliptical and then train abs) before having another protein shake (50g of protein from whey isolate, glutamine, BCAAs, metamucil, peanut butter) and then a 4oz steak, some seal oil and creatine before bed...

i've never found a diet this easy to follow... losing 2-3lbs per week consistently and i have not lost any strength

down 32lbs and counting... starting to see upper abs again
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 14, 2012, 05:26:22 PM
today's breakdown including 16oz of red wine:

Fat                   112.6g   42.7%
Sodium           2,520.5mg   
Carbohydrates   139.2g   23.5%
Protein           200.1g   33.8%


gotta do some cardio soon (about an hour of elliptical and then train abs) before having another protein shake (50g of protein from whey isolate, glutamine, BCAAs, metamucil, peanut butter) and then a 4oz steak, some seal oil and creatine before bed...

i've never found a diet this easy to follow... losing 2-3lbs per week consistently and i have not lost any strength

down 32lbs and counting... starting to see upper abs again

Whoa, good for you dude. I'm going to cut up this summer and I'm definitely going with the low carbs high fat approach.

Right now my EFA intake consists of 3 g fish oil, 2g Evening Primrose Oil, and about 2 tbsp olive oil per day. What would you add/subtract to that?
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: WOOO on April 14, 2012, 07:10:47 PM
Whoa, good for you dude. I'm going to cut up this summer and I'm definitely going with the low carbs high fat approach.

Right now my EFA intake consists of 3 g fish oil, 2g Evening Primrose Oil, and about 2 tbsp olive oil per day. What would you add/subtract to that?

managed to fix your post for quoting  ;D

looks like a good start to me... i take 6g of seal oil, 2-3tbsps of oil (varied depending what I am eating it on) and some butter every day... rest of my fat is from meat, cream, etc...
Title: Re: Such a tasty day...
Post by: Glass Gorilla on April 14, 2012, 07:12:15 PM
managed to fix your post for quoting  ;D

looks like a good start to me... i take 6g of seal oil, 2-3tbsps of oil (varied depending what I am eating it on) and some butter every day... rest of my fat is from meat, cream, etc...

Shit I didn't even notice that lol. Thanks dude.