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Hmmm... sounds like the media is getting exactly what it wanted. I hope that people put the blame exactly where it belongs. On the media's shoulders.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/suited-booted-and-armed-unbelievable-audio-from-the-new-black-panthers/
Williams: I just want to say to all the listeners on this phone call, that if you are having any doubt about getting suited, booted, and armed up for this race war that we’re in that has never ended, let me tell you somethin…the thing that’s about to happen these honkies, these crackers, these pigs, these people, these motherf*er…it has been long overdue.”
Kweli: “Ya, what she said was right– we got to suit up and boot up…and get prepared for the war that we’re in…this stuff got to boil over, and all your great’s talked about that happened to be bloodshed involved with revolution- true revolution means some bloodshed, so there‘s blood being spilled because there’s a new life that is beyond this bloodshed. There is a new reality that is built upon your original African principles and spiritualities and values and norms that is beyond this bloodshed. But we gotta go do it.
“And as the Scripture said, you gotta to cross it. We gon’ have to cross the Red Sea….I know y’all thought it was talking about some sea in some Middle Eastern part of the world- hell no. We’re talking about some blood. You’re gonna have to cross some blood, and go through some blood and some battles.
“And there are those who wish they could stand in this hour, to see the destruction of the devil‘s world and the devil’s society- and I‘m ain’t talking about no dude underneath the ground with a pitchfork and pantyhose. I’m talking about that blonde haired, blue-eyed, sometimes brown-eyed, Caucasian walkin around with a mindset, a demonistic mindset, and a nature to do evil and brutality.”
Williams: “I say to everyone that is on this call right now, I‘m comin’ out of the gate…my prize right now this evening is going to be the bounty, the arrest– dead or alive– for George Zimmerman. You feel me? To every brother, to every female, I am for violence if non-violence means we continue postponing a solution to the American black man’s problem just to avoid violence. You feel me? It’s time to wake up, I don’t know how else...It’s in me to fight. It’s in me to raise up soldiers. It’s in me that every time my feet touch the ground the state of Florida- these crackers- they scared.
“I’m kinda pissed off right now that the state of Florida ain’t on fire. This could not have happened in L.A. because them brothers up there are not scared to riot. This could not have happened in St. Petersburg Florida, where the black man over there are ain’t scared to kill a cracker.”
Kweli: “This is real. We’re attacked anywhere in the world and we would defend ourselves by any means necessary…You starve capitalism, since this racism that‘s being perpetuated and this brutality that’s being perpetuated, and this murder that’s being perpetuated, is built on the table legs of capitalism, you’ve got to starve capitalism.
“An act of war has been declared on us and we have no choice but to fight…[But] we have to be trained how to fight. See the whole purpose of the maneuver that’s happening in Sanford is to train in self-defense, because many of us think we’re prepared for a battle- just like many of us think we’re prepared for a fight- but if you are not training, if you are not stocking up water, if you are not stocking up food, if you are not stocking up weapons and artillery and survival books, and gas masks, and flashlights, and cantines, and ready-to-eat meals…if you are not stocking that up I don’t know how serious we are right now.
“Absolutely, we want the complete removal of capitalism. Why? Because capitalism sets up a class structure and a class society. As I said in the beginning of the “haves” and “have nots,” [the] pivotal point is racism, it is racism that keeps them perpetuating a capitalistic motion. So yes, we want capitalism completely eradicated, especially from the minds and hearts and dealings of black people.”
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Obama wants this so he can create chaos.
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Wonder if this will make the news this week? ABC, NBC, CBS. Anyone wanna take bets
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Sounds like 1) who gives a shit.
I don't care what color, religion, or football team you like.
if you commit a forcible felony, I'm capping your ass. All this dumb shit about a race war is just the right's response to the left's bullshit on race. See, MSNBC kneepads trayvon, while Rush screams about 2 d-bag guys at a philly voting station hamming it up for the camera (by the way it was bush who decided not to prosecute them/DOJ Dec 2008).
race is so stupid. we're all poor ants to the ppl that run this country, and we're screaming about race. seriously. it's a mcnugget and a Frosty arguing about who is more disgusting as the steak laughs ;)
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Sounds like 1) who gives a shit.
I don't care what color, religion, or football team you like.
if you commit a forcible felony, I'm capping your ass. All this dumb shit about a race war is just the right's response to the left's bullshit on race. See, MSNBC kneepads trayvon, while Rush screams about 2 d-bag guys at a philly voting station hamming it up for the camera (by the way it was bush who decided not to prosecute them/DOJ Dec 2008).
race is so stupid. we're all poor ants to the ppl that run this country, and we're screaming about race. seriously. it's a mcnugget and a Frosty arguing about who is more disgusting as the steak laughs ;)
Uh, what, did you even read the article you stupid fuck? Its a conversation from the Black Panthers calling for the blood of whitey. Where the fuck did you get the rest of this stupid shit? Race war being the rights response? Where in the fuck did you get that?
Jesus fucking Christ dude.
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Uh, what, did you even read the article you stupid fuck? Its a conversation from the Black Panthers calling for the blood of whitey. Where the fuck did you get the rest of this stupid shit? Race war being the rights response? Where in the fuck did you get that?
Jesus fucking Christ dude.
Not to mention that the racial tensions are already starting to boil over. The dude in Tulsa went on a black killing spree. The panthers are calling for whiteys blood. Several people have been murdered in response to Trayvon or at the very least accosted.
Its getting bad. One spark could set this whole thing off like a powderkeg. If they push too much, people are going to start getting sick of it and push back. And its going to get ugly.
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Not to mention that the racial tensions are already starting to boil over. The dude in Tulsa went on a black killing spree. The panthers are calling for whiteys blood. Several people have been murdered in response to Trayvon or at the very least accosted.
Its getting bad. One spark could set this whole thing off like a powderkeg. If they push too much, people are going to start getting sick of it and push back. And its going to get ugly.
Obama and his admn have set race relations back decades and it all started the day he was inaugurated with that disgusting speech by the pastor
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Don't blacks murder the most blacks?
When Sharpton or whichever race-baiter was saying "blacks are under attack"....who is attacking them, exactly? And using "under attack" is definitely a charged statement with the intention of stirring shit up and getting violent.
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Dan Rather: 'Race Will Be a Factor in This Presidential Campaign'
NewsBusters ^ | April 8, 2012 | Noel Sheppard
Posted on April 8, 2012 9:53:52 PM EDT by Free ThinkerNY
With the way the Obama-loving media have mishandled the Trayvon Martin shooting, there's seems to be no question the Left wants race to be an issue in the upcoming elections.
Appearing on the syndicated Chris Matthews Show this weekend, HDNet's Dan Rather ominously said, "Race will be a factor in this presidential campaign"
DAN RATHER, HDNET: But this will be, let's don't forget that race will be a factor in this presidential campaign. Yes, the country can feel good about we elected a person of color, which I did not expect to see in my lifetime. But race will be a factor in this. The fact that the economy is in this strange position that it seems to be doing better but everyone has a sense it's more volatile than we know, it’s more fragile than we know. And in the end, you know, Chris, I'm a great believer that people vote their pocket books.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...
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race is so stupid. we're all poor ants to the ppl that run this country, and we're screaming about race. seriously. it's a mcnugget and a Frosty arguing about who is more disgusting as the steak laughs ;)
DITTO
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all five of them? some 'war'..
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all five of them? some 'war'..
LOL - exactly
I guess that's all it takes for the right wingers on GB.com to shit their pants
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LOL - exactly
I guess that's all it takes for the right wingers on GB.com to shit their pants
We need to bring back midnight b-ball for the thugs to calm down.
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LOL - exactly
I guess that's all it takes for the right wingers on GB.com to shit their pants
Im not worried about the 5 talking about it - im worried about the impressionable idiots listening to them. If even one person is killed because of this, it can be laid squarely at the feet of the media with their distortions of the Trayvon incident.
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Lol, of course they want to remove capitalism. They want socialism or communism so they can sit on their black ass and do nothing but receive a check off the real mans back, the white man.
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Im not worried about the 5 talking about it - im worried about the impressionable idiots listening to them. If even one person is killed because of this, it can be laid squarely at the feet of the media with their distortions of the Trayvon incident.
the left will differentiate just like they did with mahr and his sexist comments.
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In the coming race war, I'll be taking Asians under my wing and protecting them!
:)
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Im not worried about the 5 talking about it - im worried about the impressionable idiots listening to them. If even one person is killed because of this, it can be laid squarely at the feet of the media with their distortions of the Trayvon incident.
so you're concerned the impressionable white people who are already scared of any black persons will get duped by this video and think the black panther army is preparing for an attack ?
by "the media" I assume you mean the conservative media since this story is from TheBlaze.com which was started by Glen Beck
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so you're concerned the impressionable white people who are already scared of any black persons will get duped by this video and think the black panther army is preparing for an attack ?
by "the media" I assume you mean the conservative media since this story is from TheBlaze.com which was started by Glen Beck
cop car was shot up in Sanford Florida this morning.
We need to start calling up the Koreans from the LA Riots who knew how to deal with the animals.
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“Absolutely, we want the complete removal of capitalism. Why? Because capitalism sets up a class structure and a class society. As I said in the beginning of the “haves” and “have nots,” [the] pivotal point is racism, it is racism that keeps them perpetuating a capitalistic motion. So yes, we want capitalism completely eradicated, especially from the minds and hearts and dealings of black people.”
Capitalism = racist??
Does anyone here concur w/this sentiment, and if so can you please explain why further?
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Capitalism = racist??
Does anyone here concur w/this sentiment, and if so can you please explain why further?
Yes - these thugs want full blown communism.
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Yes - these thugs want full blown communism.
lol - link to evidence of this? the black panthers endorse communism? link please. or are you just grouping together all the evil things you can think of?
some jerks shot up a police car. find them, arrest them, lock them up for a decade. it's that simple.
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We need to bring back midnight b-ball for the thugs to calm down.
if only it were that simple to calm you down
in your case we'd need a mega dose of Thorazine and one of these
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LOL - this whole Zimmerman traveyon case is collapsing all over the play for you leftist progressives who were praying it turned out to be something else.
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so you're concerned the impressionable white people who are already scared of any black persons will get duped by this video and think the black panther army is preparing for an attack ?
by "the media" I assume you mean the conservative media since this story is from TheBlaze.com which was started by Glen Beck
What? No im talking about the impressionable black kids that will take the Black Panthers words seriously and go out and start attacking whitey.
If even 1 person is killed from these words, it can be laid squarely at the feet of the media. Thats what I was talking about.
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What? No im talking about the impressionable black kids that will take the Black Panthers words seriously and go out and start attacking whitey.
If even 1 person is killed from these words, it can be laid squarely at the feet of the media. Thats what I was talking about.
so you're not worried about impressionable white people who are reading The Blaze (conservative website) and getting duped into thinking their is some huge group of blank panthers ready to start a race war?
btw - I assume when you're placing blame on the media you a referring to Glenn Beck and TheBlaze.com..right?
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so you're not worried about impressionable white people who are reading The Blaze (conservative website) and getting duped into thinking their is some huge group of blank panthers ready to start a race war?
btw - I assume when you're placing blame on the media you a referring to Glenn Beck and TheBlaze.com..right?
How is The Blaze posting what the NBPP said put them at blame? This is the typical leftist M.O. Don't blame the source, blame the people who point it out.
I can't say I'm surprised given that you're the same retard who keeps sticking his fingers in his ears and playing dumb regarding voter fraud.
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How is The Blaze posting what the NBPP said put them at blame? This is the typical leftist M.O. Don't blame the source, blame the people who point it out.
I can't say I'm surprised given that you're the same retard who keeps sticking his fingers in his ears and playing dumb regarding voter fraud.
I'm not blaming anyone
I'm asking shockwave a question since he said "If even 1 person is killed from these words, it can be laid squarely at the feet of the media"
btw - if Beck is not to blame then I assume that means the media is not to blame either
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How is The Blaze posting what the NBPP said put them at blame? This is the typical leftist M.O. Don't blame the source, blame the people who point it out.
I can't say I'm surprised given that you're the same retard who keeps sticking his fingers in his ears and playing dumb regarding voter fraud.
you and I have different standards
I actually require some proof of voter fraud
why don't you list the hundreds or thousands of cases in the last year or two or ten and then we can talk about actual facts
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so you're not worried about impressionable white people who are reading The Blaze (conservative website) and getting duped into thinking their is some huge group of blank panthers ready to start a race war?
btw - I assume when you're placing blame on the media you a referring to Glenn Beck and TheBlaze.com..right?
Im confused... The Blaze didnt utter those words.
The Blaze isnt calling for whites to go out and shoot black peoples.
If some white shoots a black guy and says "I was scared he was going to kill me cause the Blaze said so", then yeah, theyd get the blame. Why wouldnt they?
But it wasnt the Blaze that was constantly fanning the flames, calling Zimmerman "white", and it wasnt the Blaze who is calling for "blood" and to incite blacks "to kill a white man or two". That is a direct result of the media's portrayal of Zimmerman.
And lets be honest - its much more common for Blacks to get riled up and riot and kill because of the words of their constituents that it is for white people.
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Im confused... The Blaze didnt utter those words.The Blaze isnt calling for whites to go out and shoot black peoples.
If some white shoots a black guy and says "I was scared he was going to kill me cause the Blaze said so", then yeah, theyd get the blame. Why wouldnt they?
But it wasnt the Blaze that was constantly fanning the flames, calling Zimmerman "white", and it wasnt the Blaze who is calling for "blood" and to incite blacks "to kill a white man or two". That is a direct result of the media's portrayal of Zimmerman.
And lets be honest - its much more common for Blacks to get riled up and riot and kill because of the words of their constituents that it is for white people.
now I'm confused
you've pre-blamed the media a couple of times in this thread so if you're not blaming Beck/The Blaze then which media are you pre-blaming and why ?
I'll assume your last sentence was just a some kind of of a bad joke
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now I'm confused
you've pre-blamed the media a couple of times in this thread so if you're not blaming Beck/The Blaze then which media are you pre-blaming and why ?
I'll assume your last sentence was just a some kind of of a bad joke
Really? Im blaming MSNBC as number one. I figured when I said that the "media responsible for misconstruing the Zimmerman case to make him appear as a white racist", that you would be able to figure out which media outlets I was speaking of. Where are you coming up with Beck/Blaze when they have done nothing to incite racial tensions in this particular case? They are merely reporting on the words the Black Panthers are spreading, theyre not the ones fanning the flames with misinformation. The main reason theyre saying the things they are, is because of the way NBC and the rest of them edited and perpetuated misinformation to make Zimmerman appear like a white racist hell bent on killing a black man.
Last sentence is not a joke. How is it a joke? When was the last time you saw a bunch of white people go on a violent rampage because they felt a fellow white was being treated unfairly, or because their constiuents called for it? Hmm?
I can personally remember many instances in my lifetime where Blacks have gone on violent riots and specifically targeted whites at the urging of their own people.
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Really? Im blaming MSNBC as number one. I figured when I said that the "media responsible for misconstruing the Zimmerman case to make him appear as a white racist", that you would be able to figure out which media outlets I was speaking of. Where are you coming up with Beck/Blaze when they have done nothing to incite racial tensions in this particular case? They are merely reporting on the words the Black Panthers are spreading, theyre not the ones fanning the flames with misinformation. The main reason theyre saying the things they are, is because of the way NBC and the rest of them edited and perpetuated misinformation to make Zimmerman appear like a white racist hell bent on killing a black man.
Last sentence is not a joke. How is it a joke? When was the last time you saw a bunch of white people go on a violent rampage because they felt a fellow white was being treated unfairly, or because their constiuents called for it? Hmm?
I can personally remember many instances in my lifetime where Blacks have gone on violent riots and specifically targeted whites at the urging of their own people.
why would you blame MSNBC for the Blank Panther shit ?
If you're referring to coverage of Treyvon Martin why would you blame MSNBC as #1
I thought the meme on this site was that no one even watches MSNBC
Do you believe all the "blacks" in FL are sitting around @ 5pm to watch the Ed Show or Maddow in order to get riled up
Also, are you honestly saying white people have no history of mob violence predicated on race?
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why would you blame MSNBC for the Blank Panther shit ?
If you're referring to coverage of Treyvon Martin why would you blame MSNBC as #1
I thought the meme on this site was that no one even watches MSNBC
Do you believe all the "blacks" in FL are sitting around @ 5pm to watch the Ed Show or Maddow in order to get riled up
Also, are you honestly saying white people have no history of mob violence predicated on race?
Sigh.
Are you really trying to insinuate that the MSM's handling of this case wasnt the direct fire that sparked the Panthers words?
Why are you ignoring that many elements of the MSM (most notably MSNBC) misconstrued information about the case early on which resulted widely in people not knowing the facts, and calling for his head because he was "a white racist who killed a poor innocent black kid".
Other news outlets took it and ran with it. Eventually it became socially accepted that Martin was a white man that killed Martin out of racism, resulting in the Black Panthers "kill whitey" speech. How in the hell are you arguing this? If the media (starting with NBC) had reported the facts instead of spinning it for a story, the Panthers would not have given this speech.
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Sigh.
Are you really trying to insinuate that the MSM's handling of this case wasnt the direct fire that sparked the Panthers words?Why are you ignoring that many elements of the MSM (most notably MSNBC) misconstrued information about the case early on which resulted widely in people not knowing the facts, and calling for his head because he was "a white racist who killed a poor innocent black kid".
Other news outlets took it and ran with it. Eventually it became socially accepted that Martin was a white man that killed Martin out of racism, resulting in the Black Panthers "kill whitey" speech. How in the hell are you arguing this? If the media (starting with NBC) had reported the facts instead of spinning it for a story, the Panthers would not have given this speech.
If I had to speculate (which is all you or I can do) I would say that the klling of an unarmed teenager and the release of his killer without charges is what "sparked" all of this. No doubt that NBC f'd up with their redaction of the 911 call but I don't think that had any effect on "the masses" nor do I think anything the MSM media is doing has much effect either...... these are my opinions
I don't think the media has much effect, if any, on shit like this.
I think the triggering effect was the that shooter, as of yet, has not been charged with any crime and that just seems totally wrong to a lot of people, myself included
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If I had to speculate (which is all you or I can do) I would say that the klling of an unarmed teenager and the release of his killer without charges is what "sparked" all of this. No doubt that NBC f'd up with their redaction of the 911 call but I don't think that had any effect on "the masses" nor do I think anything the MSM media is doing has much effect either...... these are my opinions
I don't think the media has much effect, if any, on shit like this.
I think the triggering effect was the that shooter, as of yet, has not been charged with any crime and that just seems totally wrong to a lot of people, myself included
I do - because he was potrayed as a white man out to kill a black man, rather than what he was - a hispanic man who killed a black man. The whole basis of the Black Panthers speach is to "kill whitey/shed the blood of whitey". Why? Because Trayvon's killer was potrayed as a stereotypical angry racist gun toting white male. Had it said "Hispanic man kills black in street altercation", none of this would have happned IMHO.
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^^^^^ shhhhhhh^^^^^ too much truth there.
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I do - because he was potrayed as a white man out to kill a black man, rather than what he was - a hispanic man who killed a black man. The whole basis of the Black Panthers speach is to "kill whitey/shed the blood of whitey". Why? Because Trayvon's killer was potrayed as a stereotypical angry racist gun toting white male. Had it said "Hispanic man kills black in street altercation", none of this would have happned IMHO.
I am in 100% disagreement with you on that last sentence
first of all the inclusion of either race in your description is unnecessary and more importantly, it was not merely
"Hispanic man kills black man in street altercation" That's inaccurate and incomplete.
A more accurate descriptions, sans race, would be an armed man stalked and confronted and ultimately shot and killed an unarmed teenager and due to the "stand your ground law" was able to claim self defense and has not been charged with a crime
IMO - the people who are upset and protesting are not doing so because
they've been misinformed about the facts (even if in some cases they
have been)
I believe they are doing it because they know the only facts that
matter to them which is that an unarmed kid was gunned down and no one
has been arrested I don't for a second believe they have been "motivated to action" by
the MSM where they would otherwise be sitting home doing nothing
I understand you believe differently