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Title: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2012, 12:24:09 PM
Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case

[Updated at 3:07 p.m. ET] Many people in Sanford, Florida and around the world have been captivated by the Trayvon Martin case and have lent their support to Martin's family.

Upon hearing the news that special prosecutor Angela Corey was holding a press conference today to update the media, Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton tweeted that the case was in God's hands now.


Sybrina Fulton
@SybrinaFulton We're on pins&needles waiting for Ms. Coreys decision but we're prayerful that justice will prevail. He sits high&looks low #GODisincontrol
11 Apr 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite[Updated at 3:02 p.m. ET] The office of special prosecutor Angela Corey has confirmed that a news conference updating the media on the Trayvon Martin case will begin at the State Attorney’s Office in Jacksonville, Florida at 6 p.m. ET.


[Updated at 2:51 p.m. ET]  Corey's office, which is investigating the Trayvon Martin shooting case, said that charges against George Zimmerman have not been filed. The office would not confirm whether the office planned to charge him, according to HLN's Josey Crews.

Earlier, CNN reported that Corey is expected to announce a decision Wednesday regarding whether she will file charges against Zimmerman, and a senior law enforcement source familiar with the Martin death investigation said that Zimmerman would be charged.

[Updated at 2:39 p.m. ET]  George Zimmerman “will be (criminally) charged if (he) hasn’t been charged already,” according to a senior law enforcement source familiar with the Trayvon Martin death investigation.

It's not clear what the charges would be.

iReport.com: What's your reaction?

[Initial post, 2:29 p.m. ET] A special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin shooting case is expected to announce a decision within the next four hours regarding whether she will file charges against George Zimmerman, CNN reports.

The news comes a day after attorneys for Zimmerman told reporters they had lost contact with Zimmerman and no longer represent him.

Police say Zimmerman fatally shot Martin, a 17-year-old African-American, on February 26 in Sanford, Florida, after Martin began walking home from a convenience store. Zimmerman, who is Hispanic and was a neighborhood watch volunteer, had called 911 to complain about a suspicious person in the neighborhood.

Zimmerman told Sanford police the shooting was self-defense, and Zimmerman was released without charges. Authorities have said Zimmerman was not immediately charged because there were no grounds, at the outset, to disprove his account that he'd acted to protect himself.

But thousands converged on Sanford to join in protests calling for Zimmerman's arrest and criticizing the police department's handling of the case. Martin's death has triggered a nationwide debate about race in America and Florida's "stand your ground" law, which allows people to use deadly force anywhere they feel a reasonable threat of death or serious injury.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/11/prosecutor-to-announce-decision-on-zimmerman/?hpt=hp_t1
 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 11, 2012, 12:42:33 PM
I fear if he's convicted - that its solely on the basis of public opinion. I dont think we'll ever know what really happened - and its a shame on both fronts.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: LurkerNoMore on April 11, 2012, 12:45:40 PM
When the police chief stepped down, that was the first clue that something was amiss.  He was doing that for no other reason than to cover his own ass.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: 240 is Back on April 11, 2012, 12:49:31 PM
I fear if he's convicted - that its solely on the basis of public opinion. I dont think we'll ever know what really happened - and its a shame on both fronts.

I dunno... there are a LOT of people out there who think he's being framed and that not only was he 1000% honest all along, but that he's a hero for what happened.

It just takes 1 person on that jury of 12 to feel that way, and he walks.  
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 11, 2012, 12:55:46 PM
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 11, 2012, 01:01:52 PM
I dunno... there are a LOT of people out there who think he's being framed and that not only was he 1000% honest all along, but that he's a hero for what happened.

It just takes 1 person on that jury of 12 to feel that way, and he walks.  
Wow dude... for every 1 guy that feels he's innocent, there are 5000 that feel he's guilty just like you did in the begining. It takes a lot of work to change an opinion once its formed and people had already convicted him as soon as the story hit, just like you. The only people I know that dont want to auto-convict him are people that primarily get their news on the internet. And its a very small % of people. Dont try and turn this around because you have to feel like youre on the underdog side. The majority of people very much side with you Mr. Brian "I have to fight against the mainstream" Griffin.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: 240 is Back on April 11, 2012, 01:07:43 PM
i listen to fox radio all day long.   I look at getbig.  the majority of ppl who listen to daytime talk radio believe zimmy, and it sounds like the majority of getbigger on poli board do too.

I'm guess 1 in 12 is a reasonable possibility. 

Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 11, 2012, 01:19:05 PM
i listen to fox radio all day long.   I look at getbig.  the majority of ppl who listen to daytime talk radio believe zimmy, and it sounds like the majority of getbigger on poli board do too.

I'm guess 1 in 12 is a reasonable possibility. 


Trust me, the large majority of people still believe he's guilty.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: pro nitrousADRL on April 11, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
The entire legal process of this is going to be for nothing else but to appease the black community. He will be found guilty, but not given much time, then the black community will start in on that as well. No way in hell will he be found innocent. The government is afraid of what will ensue, and if the government steps in and stops what ensues, then that's a hole big race issue. He will be found guilty
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: sync pulse on April 11, 2012, 02:34:09 PM
It has been suggested among legal pundits that “Stand Your Ground” can be made to work the other way…for Trayvon Martin and against George Zimmerman.

The argument goes like this:
“I was walking home from the convenience store with candy and soda…This scary looking Hispanic with a gun in his belt and not wearing a uniform or a badge is stalking me…I feared for my life and I took physical action, ‘I stood my ground’ and tried to take his gun away, and physically incapacitate him...


Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
Will apparently be charged with second degree murder.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 11, 2012, 02:44:07 PM
Will apparently be charged with second degree murder.
Doesnt suprise me. Prosecutor acting tough for the press. Bet he'll wind up with manslaughter.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2012, 02:47:15 PM
Will apparently be charged with second degree murder.

That is fucking nuts!   I can see manslaughter or reckless homicide, or even criminally negligent homicde, but murder?   WTF? 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2012, 02:56:14 PM
I haven't really looked at this too closely, but I do find the media's conduct reprehensible in this whole thing.  When I first heard about this story I thought the kid was like 10 years old based on the pictures they were putting out.   ::) 

I don't have an opinion on Zimmerman yet.  I learned a while back to wait and see what the evidence shows.  I jumped all over Richard Jewell (the alleged Olympic Park bomber) based on listening to an interview.  Will never make that mistake again. 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
Reports say he is in custody. 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2012, 02:59:13 PM
Official: Zimmerman is in custody and will be charged with 2nd-degree murder
Yahoo ^

Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:45:48 PM by Arthurio

Official: Zimmerman is in custody and will be charged with 2nd-degree murder


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Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: OzmO on April 11, 2012, 03:38:47 PM
I fear if he's convicted - that its solely on the basis of public opinion. I dont think we'll ever know what really happened - and its a shame on both fronts.

How is that?

Don't we have a trial by jury where facts an arguments are presented by both sides with a presiding Judge?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 11, 2012, 03:50:34 PM
How is that?

Don't we have a trial by jury where facts an arguments are presented by both sides with a presiding Judge?
because I don't think they'll have an easy time finding impartial jurors. It takes a lot to change peoples minds once they're made up. And he's already been a.victim to a media campaign against him that has left quite a bit of.misinformation on the majority of Americans...
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: OzmO on April 11, 2012, 03:56:18 PM
because I don't think they'll have an easy time finding impartial jurors. It takes a lot to change peoples minds once they're made up. And he's already been a.victim to a media campaign against him that has left quite a bit of.misinformation on the majority of Americans...

They might have it in another county or even state.  Also, the jury selection process will help matters.  Additionally the facts of the case will greatly determine the outcome.  I would think lack of facts/witnesses are always in favor of the defendant.

I don't know the facts or have not read the police reports and statements by witnesses in this case so its hard for me say either way if he should get 2nd degree or not.  I can't just dismiss it as bias or public pressure because of political ideology or whatever.

 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2012, 05:02:05 PM
because I don't think they'll have an easy time finding impartial jurors. It takes a lot to change peoples minds once they're made up. And he's already been a.victim to a media campaign against him that has left quite a bit of.misinformation on the majority of Americans...

could you set aside your preconceived beliefs and impartially look at the facts?

I believe I could
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: reppingfor20 on April 11, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
bwhahahhahahhahahhahha, how ya feel numbers boy?  Just like you will feel when Obama wins 2012?  Stick foot in mouth, lather, rinse, repeat.

Justice has just begun.  Blacks all across the nation need to draw a line now.

Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2012, 06:03:14 PM
bwhahahhahahhahahhahha, how ya feel numbers boy?  Just like you will feel when Obama wins 2012?  Stick foot in mouth, lather, rinse, repeat.

Justice has just begun.  Blacks all across the nation need to draw a line now.

who are you talking to?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Fury on April 11, 2012, 06:04:44 PM
“I will confirm that Mr. Zimmerman is indeed in custody,” Angela Corey, the special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case, said at a press conference on Wednesday night. She said that she had started the process of charging George Zimmerman with second-degree murder, and that before stepping up to the microphone she had spoken to “those sweet parents” — Sabryna Fulton and Tracy Martin — and told them what she was doing to get “justice for Trayvon.” The first time she met them, she said, they had prayed together, but she told them she couldn’t promise anything. This evening, she helped to deliver them some compensation for their tenacity and love in pursuing the case, if not — and this would have been impossible — for the loss of their son.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/04/chasing-george-zimmerman.html



Yeah, this "special prosecutor" isn't coming off as biased or anything. No wonder she passed on the grand jury.  ::)
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
“I will confirm that Mr. Zimmerman is indeed in custody,” Angela Corey, the special prosecutor in the Trayvon Martin case, said at a press conference on Wednesday night. She said that she had started the process of charging George Zimmerman with second-degree murder, and that before stepping up to the microphone she had spoken to “those sweet parents” — Sabryna Fulton and Tracy Martin — and told them what she was doing to get “justice for Trayvon.” The first time she met them, she said, they had prayed together, but she told them she couldn’t promise anything. This evening, she helped to deliver them some compensation for their tenacity and love in pursuing the case, if not — and this would have been impossible — for the loss of their son.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/04/chasing-george-zimmerman.html



Yeah, this "special prosecutor" isn't coming off as biased or anything. No wonder she passed on the grand jury.  ::)

it's her job to prosecute and Zimmermans lawyers to defend him

She also said: “Let me emphasize that we do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition,”

here's her statement - I can't find the quote about praying but maybe it's in there somewhere

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/11/angela.corey.speech.pdf?hpt=hp_t1
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Fury on April 11, 2012, 06:15:57 PM
it's her job to prosecute and Zimmermans lawyers to defend him

She also said: “Let me emphasize that we do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition,”

here's her statement - I can't find the quote about praying but maybe it's in there somewhere

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/11/angela.corey.speech.pdf?hpt=hp_t1

It's not her job to pray with the parents and talk about how "sweet" they are and how she'll get them "justice" while deciding whether to charge a man with a crime or not.  ::)

Should I be surprised that you, being the uneducated, stupid fuck that you are, don't see a problem with that? No, I've come to expect it from you, Simple Jack.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2012, 06:23:22 PM
It's not her job to pray with the parents and talk about how "sweet" they are and how she'll get them "justice" while deciding whether to charge a man with a crime or not.  ::)

Should I be surprised that you, being the uneducated, stupid fuck that you are, don't see a problem with that? No, I've come to expect it from you, Simple Jack.

settle down dumbass

there's nothing wrong with saying the parents are sweet and she's the prosecutor for christ sakes

She's not the judge or the jury or the defense lawyer.

Her job is to asses the evidence, bring charges and try to get a conviction

btw - when you immediately go to personal attacks you just look like an idiot
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2012, 06:31:42 PM
It's not her job to pray with the parents and talk about how "sweet" they are and how she'll get them "justice" while deciding whether to charge a man with a crime or not.  ::)


I agree.  Inappropriate.  Sort of knew the handwriting was on the wall when she said that about the family. 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 11, 2012, 06:39:23 PM
I agree.  Inappropriate.  Sort of knew the handwriting was on the wall when she said that about the family. 
Yeah... well at least she's the prosecutor and not the judge.. Zimmerman better pray he gets a judge and jury that take their oaths seriously...
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: OzmO on April 11, 2012, 07:07:51 PM
I agree it kind of a inappropriate to say that.  It should be a neutral doing our job kind of statement.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2012, 08:59:35 PM
I agree it kind of a inappropriate to say that.  It should be a neutral doing our job kind of statement.

she is not neutral

she is the prosecutor







Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: OzmO on April 11, 2012, 09:05:08 PM
she is not neutral

she is the prosecutor


Yeah I agree, but should her statements be aimed at finding the truth or manipulating public opinion?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2012, 12:05:56 AM
Here is the charge:  http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2012/images/04/11/zimmerman.charges.pdf?hpt=hp_c1
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 12, 2012, 05:02:35 AM
The prosecutor is the chief legal representative of the prosecution in countries with either the common law adversarial system, or the civil law inquisitorial system. The prosecution is the legal party responsible for presenting the case in a criminal trial against an individual accused of breaking the law.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: kcballer on April 12, 2012, 09:19:51 AM
Yeah I agree, but should her statements be aimed at finding the truth or manipulating public opinion?

She's a lawyer so manipulating public opinion is apart of that process.

Her job isn't to do what is "fair". Instead her job is to convict and further her career.  That is what lawyers do for both sides.  It has nothing to do with respect for the law or the accused or the victim. 

Hence, lawyers are part of what is wrong with the justice system.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2012, 03:10:38 PM
She's a lawyer so manipulating public opinion is apart of that process.
Her job isn't to do what is "fair". Instead her job is to convict and further her career.  That is what lawyers do for both sides.  It has nothing to do with respect for the law or the accused or the victim. 

Hence, lawyers are part of what is wrong with the justice system.

what would be her motivation to manipulate public opinion ?

btw - what part of what she said to you think was directed toward doing that?

Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2012, 03:11:20 PM
what would be her motivation to manipulate public opinion ?

btw - what part of what she said to you think was directed toward doing that?



THOUSANDS OF BLOOD LUSTING RACE MOBSTERS OUTSIDE OF HER OFFICE!   
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2012, 03:29:58 PM
THOUSANDS OF BLOOD LUSTING RACE MOBSTERS OUTSIDE OF HER OFFICE!   
And how does that benefit here again?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2012, 03:33:34 PM
And how does that benefit here again?

Its called putting water over a flame that is fast spreading.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: 240 is Back on April 12, 2012, 04:36:25 PM
sorry 33, you can cite any unfounded CT that you want here.   but the evidence they charged him with - i mean, he said he's tired of these f-in a-holes as he ignored 911 operator suggestion to wait there, and headed into a confrontatoin.

He was angry.  He voluntarily went into it.  Exaggerated shit to the cops.

Sorry, but his ass looks guilty 33.  She's a repub (the prosecutor) and she could have let the grand jury handle shit if she wanted an OUT. 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 12, 2012, 04:42:24 PM
She's a lawyer so manipulating public opinion is apart of that process.

Her job isn't to do what is "fair". Instead her job is to convict and further her career.  That is what lawyers do for both sides.  It has nothing to do with respect for the law or the accused or the victim. 

Hence, lawyers are part of what is wrong with the justice system.




Of course she has to be fair.  She's an officer of the court and it's the entire premise of the justice system.

I don't think she said anything unfair...but might not be the most appropriate comment for this case.

Especially considering his douchebag parents are trying to profit from his death. 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 12, 2012, 04:43:29 PM

Sorry, but his ass looks guilty 33. 
 




And the other day you were claiming it looks justified.  ::)


Lemme guess, wind change direction?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Fury on April 12, 2012, 04:53:11 PM



And the other day you were claiming it looks justified.  ::)


Lemme guess, wind change direction?

He's a sheeple. When it became apparent that his lies were proven wrong he changed his tune. Now that Zimmerman has been charge 240 feels like he's been vindicated. MSDNC says he's guilty so 240 says he's guilty.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 12, 2012, 05:02:21 PM
He's a sheeple. When it became apparent that his lies were proven wrong he changed his tune. Now that Zimmerman has been charge 240 feels like he's been vindicated. MSDNC says he's guilty so 240 says he's guilty.




We need to hack to those sites and run a couple of stories about the virtues of jumping off a building.....wouldn't hear from 240 for weeks/months.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2012, 05:11:16 PM
Its called putting water over a flame that is fast spreading.

so " THOUSANDS OF BLOOD LUSTING RACE MOBSTERS OUTSIDE OF HER OFFICE!" = putting water over a flame

and again, how does any of that actually benefit her

Honestly 333 - I expected some rational responses from you on this subject?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 12, 2012, 05:12:56 PM
Here's the affadavit:
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/120412_Zimmerman_CauseAffidavit.pdf


Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2012, 05:15:23 PM



Of course she has to be fair.  She's an officer of the court and it's the entire premise of the justice system.

I don't think she said anything unfair...but might not be the most appropriate comment for this case.

Especially considering his douchebag parents are trying to profit from his death. 

I'm not aware of this

how are they trying to profit from his death ?





Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 12, 2012, 05:46:53 PM
I'm not aware of this

how are they trying to profit from his death ?






Theyve already trademarked the name "Trayvon" and the phrase "I am Trayvon". Like the day after the story broke. Its pathetic.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2012, 05:55:17 PM
Theyve already trademarked the name "Trayvon" and the phrase "I am Trayvon". Like the day after the story broke. Its pathetic.

yeah I read that but you don't you why they did it

it's possible they  did it so that no one  else would try to use that to exploit their dead son

until they actually start trying to make money doing that I'm willing to not jump to conclusions about it

Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 12, 2012, 06:02:37 PM
yeah I read that but you don't you why they did it

it's possible they  did it so that no one  else would try to use that to exploit their dead son

until they actually start trying to make money doing that I'm willing to not jump to conclusions about it


Lol. I read somewhere that they were using it for advertising purposes. I cant remember where though. ill try and find the link, but know, they didnt have their sons "best interest" at heart. You know that already though, methinks.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2012, 06:06:36 PM
Lol. I read somewhere that they were using it for advertising purposes. I cant remember where though. ill try and find the link, but know, they didnt have their sons "best interest" at heart. You know that already though, methinks.

I'm not saying they aren't trying to make a profit but I see no proof

do you at least acknowledge that they could have done it (probably on the advise of an attorney) to protect their sons image and likeness from others who might attempt to exploit it for profit?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Fury on April 12, 2012, 07:11:55 PM
I'm not saying they aren't trying to make a profit but I see no proof

do you at least acknowledge that they could have done it (probably on the advise of an attorney) to protect their sons image and likeness from others who might attempt to exploit it for profit?

Hahaha, look at this guy try to rationalize the actions of his money-grubbing parents.

The first thing the families of all murder victims do is trademark their dead kin's name, right? LOL.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2012, 07:23:19 PM
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/harvard-prof-alan-dershowitz-zimmerman-arrest-affidavit-irresponsible-and-unethical


Dershowitz destroys the bogus crap that the leftists are claiming.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 12, 2012, 09:02:02 PM
Hahaha, look at this guy try to rationalize the actions of his money-grubbing parents.
The first thing the families of all murder victims do is trademark their dead kin's name, right? LOL.

show me some proof and I'll agree with you
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: 240 is Back on April 12, 2012, 09:08:26 PM
Dershowitz ... yeah he was sooooo credible in that OJ trial lol.

he's doing what defense lawyers do.  They'll all be on nancy grace this week delivering their best defenses.  And zimm's team will hire 2-3 of them, watch and see.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 13, 2012, 07:01:28 AM
Sybrina Fulton is seeking to trademark the phrases "Justice for Trayvon" and "I Am Trayvon." The family attorney, Natalie Jackson, told RadarOnline.com exclusively: "I want to set the record straight, the trademarks were applied for so that no one can profit from or promote their own agendas using Trayvon Martin. Trayvon's parents will never seek to financially profit from these trademarks, period. I can't emphasize that point enough. They haven't even been able to mourn his death because they are seeking justice for his death.

"Their son is dead and it's insulting for people to think that they are thinking about profiting from this horrific tragedy. It's sad that there are those out there that are attempting to make money off of Trayvon's death and that his parents had to do this."

don't let the facts get in your way  ::)
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2012, 07:04:18 AM
Sybrina Fulton is seeking to trademark the phrases "Justice for Trayvon" and "I Am Trayvon." The family attorney, Natalie Jackson, told RadarOnline.com exclusively: "I want to set the record straight, the trademarks were applied for so that no one can profit from or promote their own agendas using Trayvon Martin. Trayvon's parents will never seek to financially profit from these trademarks, period. I can't emphasize that point enough. They haven't even been able to mourn his death because they are seeking justice for his death.

"Their son is dead and it's insulting for people to think that they are thinking about profiting from this horrific tragedy. It's sad that there are those out there that are attempting to make money off of Trayvon's death and that his parents had to do this."

don't let the facts get in your way  ::)


Obama tried to get some grift off it remember? 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 13, 2012, 07:05:38 AM
obama was selling t shirts,why that low life :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2012, 07:08:21 AM
obama was selling t shirts,why that low life :D :D :D :D :D :D

He sold hoodies off of the media news.  did you buy one? 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 13, 2012, 07:12:44 AM
yes i did,and each hoodie came with a bag of skittles in the pocket,for your protection
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2012, 07:15:03 AM
yes i did,and each hoodie came with a bag of skittles in the pocket,for your protection


Obama 2012 - Hoodies Skittles, condoms, country clubs, and communism 
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 14, 2012, 10:17:42 PM

Obama 2012 - Hoodies Skittles, condoms, country clubs, and communism  

......and schizophrenia
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 14, 2012, 10:31:31 PM
......and schizophrenia

I forgot - two crack pipes on every stove.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 15, 2012, 06:01:40 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/snl-piers-morgan-trayvon-martin/
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 15, 2012, 09:57:49 AM
Sybrina Fulton is seeking to trademark the phrases "Justice for Trayvon" and "I Am Trayvon." The family attorney, Natalie Jackson, told RadarOnline.com exclusively: "I want to set the record straight, the trademarks were applied for so that no one can profit from or promote their own agendas using Trayvon Martin. Trayvon's parents will never seek to financially profit from these trademarks, period. I can't emphasize that point enough. They haven't even been able to mourn his death because they are seeking justice for his death.

"Their son is dead and it's insulting for people to think that they are thinking about profiting from this horrific tragedy. It's sad that there are those out there that are attempting to make money off of Trayvon's death and that his parents had to do this."

don't let the facts get in your way  ::)




BULLSHIT.  They took 2 phrases off the market out of how many thousands possible?  ::)

This was done for financial gain period.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2012, 10:03:02 AM



BULLSHIT.  They took 2 phrases off the market out of how many thousands possible?  ::)

This was done for financial gain period.

then where is their financial gain ?

Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 15, 2012, 10:16:38 AM
then where is their financial gain ?





For all we know, they're getting it right now.

Or they'll get it later.

But taking 2 measley phrases off the market isn't "protecting" shit.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2012, 10:20:04 AM


For all we know, they're getting it right now.

Or they'll get it later.

But taking 2 measley phrases off the market isn't "protecting" shit.

I don't know that they've made a dime off of it

do you?

btw - do you at least agree that a "possible" motivation is to protect their dead childs name from exploitation from third parties

Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 15, 2012, 10:25:20 AM
I don't know that they've made a dime off of it

do you?



That was my point.  We don't know one way or the other.



Quote
btw - do you at least agree that a "possible" motivation is to protect their dead childs name from exploitation from third parties






No.

Why?




 taking 2 measley phrases off the market isn't "protecting" shit.




-Skip, circa 5 minutes or so ago.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 15, 2012, 10:26:43 AM
I cant see how trademarking those 2 phrases is protecting anything or anyone. Its more about reserving those phrases for THEIR use (the parents). It makes no sense the other way.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2012, 10:30:02 AM
I cant see how trademarking those 2 phrases is protecting anything or anyone. Its more about reserving those phrases for THEIR use (the parents). It makes no sense the other way.

it prevents others from using them

I'm not saying the parents aren't trying to profit but at this point I see no evidence of that and I'm not going to make any assumptions without proof
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 15, 2012, 10:48:17 AM
it prevents others from using them

I'm not saying the parents aren't trying to profit but at this point I see no evidence of that and I'm not going to make any assumptions without proof
Right, were all working with assumptions, but youd assume if they were trying to protect him they would have done a little more than just those 2 phrases.
That makes it seem (at least to me), that theyre reserving those 2 phrases for their own use, because its not like theyre stopping anyone from exploiting their son with any of the other million ways they could rearrange the words.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2012, 10:52:51 AM

That was my point.  We don't know one way or the other.

since you agree we don't know one way or the other then how can you say "This was done for financial gain period"  and how can you arrive the conclusion that it wasn't done to protect their dead childs name from exploitation?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2012, 10:54:19 AM
Right, were all working with assumptions, but youd assume if they were trying to protect him they would have done a little more than just those 2 phrases.
That makes it seem (at least to me), that theyre reserving those 2 phrases for their own use, because its not like theyre stopping anyone from exploiting their son with any of the other million ways they could rearrange the words.

I'm only going by the evidence and statement from their attorney

i see no evidence they are trying to make a profit from the death of their child

If you have some then feel free to provide it
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 15, 2012, 10:59:04 AM
I'm only going by the evidence and statement from their attorney

i see no evidence they are trying to make a profit from the death of their child

If you have some then feel free to provide it
Hey dude you can see whatever you like, what do you expect the parents and lawyers to say? Yeah, were going to sell the shit out of our dead sons memory?
No.
There is no evidence either way yet. But to me, simply from their actions and the choices of phrases to trademark, it appears theyre trying to reserve those phrases for their own use. Otherwise they would be trademarking a lot more than just 2 phrases.
But again, you can see or not see whatever you like.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2012, 11:12:05 AM
Hey dude you can see whatever you like, what do you expect the parents and lawyers to say? Yeah, were going to sell the shit out of our dead sons memory?
No.
There is no evidence either way yet. But to me, simply from their actions and the choices of phrases to trademark, it appears theyre trying to reserve those phrases for their own use. Otherwise they would be trademarking a lot more than just 2 phrases.
But again, you can see or not see whatever you like.

agreed but that hasn't stopped you from forming an opinion

Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 15, 2012, 11:31:47 AM
agreed but that hasn't stopped you from forming an opinion


It hasnt stopped you either, lol.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2012, 11:43:58 AM
It hasnt stopped you either, lol.

my opinion is that I see no evidence of trying to profit from their childs death

at this point it's impossible to draw some conclusion about motive for obtaining some copyrights
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 15, 2012, 11:45:06 AM
my opinion is that I see no evidence of trying to profit from their childs death

at this point it's impossible to draw some conclusion about motive for obtaining some copyrights

You also saw no evidence of the left getting destroyed in the midterms.  Par for the course for you.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Straw Man on April 15, 2012, 11:48:15 AM
You also saw no evidence of the left getting destroyed in the midterms.  Par for the course for you.

of course I have evidence of it

I've talked about it many times

wtf ?
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 15, 2012, 02:42:37 PM
the right on here is making the claim their profiting,prove it.just more fake outrage from the right :D :D
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Fury on April 15, 2012, 04:53:40 PM
the right on here is making the claim their profiting,prove it.just more fake outrage from the right :D :D

As if that's any different from the fake outrage on the left. You're quite the retard, Simple Jack.  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2012, 06:01:46 AM
DOJ 'peacemakers' helped Sanford stay cool amid rising tensions
Orlando Sentinel ^ | April 15, 2012 | Arelis R. Hernández




When racial tensions flared in Sanford, a league of secretive peacemakers reached out to the city's spiritual and civic leaders to help cool heated emotions after 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in February.

When civil-rights organizers wanted to demonstrate, these federal workers taught them how to peacefully manage crowds.

They even arranged a police escort for college students to ensure safe passage for their 40-mile march from Daytona Beach to Sanford to demand justice.

As national figures and sign-waving protesters grabbed the spotlight after Trayvon's death, federal workers from a little-known branch of the Department of Justice labored away behind the scenes, quietly brokering deals between the city officials and residents to help prevent violence and lay the groundwork for peace.

Even though last week's arrest of suspected shooter George Zimmerman calmed some tensions, the Community Relations Service will remain in Sanford for an unspecified period of time. "As long as we're needed," the agency's acting director said.

The Community Relations Service offers few details about its work.

City officials, local leaders and residents say these peacekeepers have played a key role in easing tensions during some of the most heated moments after Trayvon's shooting.

"They were there for us," said the Rev. Valarie Houston, pastor of Allen Chapel AME Church, a focal point for the community after the unarmed teen's death. She met the peacekeepers there for the first time during a March 20 town-hall meeting. "We felt protected," she said.

Houston said the conciliators told her they act as the "eyes and ears of the community" and provided guidance about keeping their message about nonviolence clear.

At every rally, community meeting and march, since the shooting, conciliators were there.

In their Navy blue windbreakers, polo shirts and dark sunglasses, they look like federal agents.


(Excerpt) Read more at sun-sentinel.com ...


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Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 16, 2012, 07:01:57 AM
As if that's any different from the fake outrage on the left. You're quite the retard, Simple Jack.  :D :D :D :D

where's the prove,mama's boy.oh that's right rush hasn't filled you in yet



 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Fury on April 16, 2012, 07:27:20 AM
"where's the prove"

Retard.

Simple Jack.  :D :D :D :D

(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/71039_24019541628_5462098_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 16, 2012, 01:36:43 PM
Hahaha, look at this guy try to rationalize the actions of his money-grubbing parents.

The first thing the families of all murder victims do is trademark their dead kin's name, right? LOL.

prove it, or your lying,mama's boy.



 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 16, 2012, 02:32:41 PM
Prove what shitbag?

It's well known she took out the trademarks.

Anything else, either way, is speculation.

Try to keep up, Blacken...it's not hard.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 16, 2012, 02:56:19 PM
they said why they took out the trade marks, shit breath..unless you can prove anything different your just a lying shitbag ;D
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 16, 2012, 02:58:46 PM
they said why they took out the trade marks, shit breath..unless you can prove anything different your just a lying shitbag ;D
Or theyre lieing. Id actually argue that Skip is much more likely to be telling the truth, as the parents have a reason to lie and he doesnt.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2012, 02:59:14 PM
they said why they took out the trade marks, shit breath..unless you can prove anything different your just a lying shitbag ;D

Hey blackass - did you get your obama hoodie yet?  
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 16, 2012, 03:04:31 PM
Or theyre lieing. Id actually argue that Skip is much more likely to be telling the truth, as the parents have a reason to lie and he doesnt.

if he's telling the truth then show the proof,it's that simple.no proof=bullshit
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 16, 2012, 03:06:47 PM
if he's telling the truth then show the proof,it's that simple.no proof=bullshit



It's all speculation right now fool.  They haven't even granted her the trademarks.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: blacken700 on April 16, 2012, 03:11:46 PM



BULLSHIT.  They took 2 phrases off the market out of how many thousands possible?  ::)

This was done for financial gain period.

show us the gain
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Skip8282 on April 16, 2012, 03:17:06 PM
show us the gain


Alright...then I issue a retraction to say...

I speculate, this was done for financial gain.  It is the only logical conclusion.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2012, 07:07:16 PM
Skip to comments.

George Zimmerman afraid of being killed in jail: lawyer
NY Post ^ | 4/16/12 | DOUGLAS MONTERO
Posted on April 16, 2012 9:20:39 PM EDT by Nachum

SANFORD, Fla. -- George Zimmerman is afraid of being killed while in jail facing charges of murdering Trayvon Martin, his lawyer said today.

“There has been an upwelling of hostility and animosity towards him that can find its way to you in many different ways,” Mark O’Mara said outside the courthouse in Sanford, Fla.

“So he’s concerned because he’s exposed to many people he doesn’t even know,” O’Mara added.

The lawyer talked to reporters after filing a motion to have Judge Jessica Recksiedler removed from the case because of a possible conflict of interest.

AP George Zimmerman's booking photo.

If Recksiedler recuses herself, Florida officials would have to find another judge to take over the case and that could push back Zimmerman’s bail bond hearing, which is scheduled for Friday.

“I still hope we can figure something out to get my client out safely, get him protected,” O’Mara said.

He said he had spoken for 20 minutes today with Zimmerman, who is charged second degree murder for allegedly with gunning down 17-year-old Martin in a gated community in Sanford.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: 240 is Back on April 16, 2012, 07:09:39 PM
hopefully he won't be in any confrontation with 'fcking poooonks' while in there, as he phrased it.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 16, 2012, 07:17:32 PM
hopefully he won't be in any confrontation with 'fcking poooonks' while in there, as he phrased it.
Why do you keep spreading lies?
They cleaned up the audio, he said "fucking cold".
Jesus Christ dude, it never ends with you.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2012, 07:24:35 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/16/us-usa-florida-shooting-idUSBRE83F19Y20120416



240.  - please respond to this.   
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2012, 07:33:22 PM
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Trayvon Martin's killer showed signs of injury: neighbors
Reuters ^ | April 16, 2012 | Chris Francescani
Posted on April 16, 2012 7:39:25 PM EDT by Free ThinkerNY

SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - Neighbors of George Zimmerman say he had bandages on his nose and head the day after he shot dead Trayvon Martin, supporting statements by the neighborhood watch volunteer that he was beaten in a confrontation with the black Florida teenager.

The extent of Zimmerman's injuries could be crucial to his legal defense under Florida's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense law, which allows the use of deadly force when someone has the reasonable belief he could face death or great bodily harm.

Police said Zimmerman, who has been charged with second-degree murder in the racially charged case, was bleeding from the nose and the back of his head and was treated by medics before being taken to Sanford police station after the February 26 shooting.

But public doubts were later raised by the release of a grainy surveillance video from the police station in which no injuries were readily visible.

Zimmerman later sought medical treatment for injuries including a broken nose, his former lawyers have said.

Jorge Rodriguez, Zimmerman's next-door neighbor, told Reuters that when he saw Zimmerman the day after the incident, "he had two big, butterfly bandages on the back of his head, and another big bandage...on the bridge of his nose." He was talking to a police detective in his driveway.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: 240 is Back on April 16, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
hahahahhahahaha

dude had bandages on his head THE DAY AFTER the shoot. 

he also went to the hospital too.  Diden't need it that night, but once his daddy the judge came in, they wanted to make his injuries look as bad as possible so dipshits would gobble it up. 

Dude got punched in the nose and fell and hit his head.  LMFAO at lots of bandages = evidence of massive injuries.  oh i'm shittin bricks laughing dude.
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: tonymctones on April 16, 2012, 07:54:04 PM
LOL dude off yourself
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Shockwave on April 17, 2012, 05:03:39 AM
hahahahhahahaha

dude had bandages on his head THE DAY AFTER the shoot. 

he also went to the hospital too.  Diden't need it that night, but once his daddy the judge came in, they wanted to make his injuries look as bad as possible so dipshits would gobble it up. 

Dude got punched in the nose and fell and hit his head.  LMFAO at lots of bandages = evidence of massive injuries.  oh i'm shittin bricks laughing dude.
Youre such a douche.
The dude had a huge gash on the back of his head. He didnt 'fall and hit his head' you fucking idiot. Ive never seen anyone who tries to be middle of the road who has absolutley no problem twisting the facts and lieing to try and appear vindicated for letting the media take him for a ride.  ::)
Title: Re: Source: Zimmerman to be charged in Trayvon Martin case
Post by: Dos Equis on April 21, 2012, 10:02:37 AM
Dershowitz: Photo of Bloody Head Could Be Problem for Prosecutor
Friday, 20 Apr 2012
By Dave Eberhart

Professor Alan Dershowitz of Harvard Law School is already on the record opining that the arrest affidavit filed against George Zimmerman for the alleged second-degree murder of Trayvon Martin is “so thin that it won’t make it past a judge on a second-degree murder charge … everything in the affidavit is completely consistent with a defense of self-defense.”

Now that ABC News has released the sensational photo reputedly showing blood flowing from the back of Zimmerman’s head, Dershowitz has even more to say about the conduct of Angela Corey, the prosecutor in the case that has put Sanford, Fla., on the map, according to a report by Brietbart News.

The photo would clearly corroborate Zimmerman’s self-defense story that the young black male was slamming his head against the sidewalk pavement before he was driven to shoot him to safeguard of his own life.

According to media and police reports, Zimmerman while serving as a neighborhood watchman noticed the hooded teenager moving through a neighborhood where he knew there had been a history of break-ins. In fact, Martin was innocently making his way to his father’s house after visiting a nearby convenience store.

Zimmerman reported his sighting and suspicions to the police dispatcher who instructed him to let uniformed officers to confront the young man. He did not follow those instructions.

According to Dershowitz, having access to the photo before charging Zimmerman with second-degree murder might prove to be a sticky thing ethically for Corey.

The arrest affidavit does not address any such photograph or the bleeding cuts apparent on Zimmerman’s head. Dershowitz now reveals to Breitbart News that if the prosecutors had access to the photo and didn’t mention it in the affidavit, that could present a “grave ethical violation,” since affidavits are required to spell out “all relevant information.”

Dershowitz added, “An affidavit that willfully misstates undisputed evidence known to the prosecution is not only unethical but borders on perjury because an affiant swears to tell not only the truth, but the whole truth, and suppressing an important part of the whole truth is a lie.

“We do know that there were earlier photographs before the affidavit was done that strongly suggested blood on the back of the head, and we know the police had first access to him, so if there was blood they would know about it …,” the legal expert explained.

"I've had cases in Florida against prosecutors,” Dershowitz concluded, “and this is not the first time they have willfully omitted exculpatory evidence. It's a continuing problem. Here, it’s not only immoral, but stupid. The whole country is watching. What do they benefit from having half-truths in an affidavit?"

http://www.newsmax.com/US/Trayvon-Martin-Zimmerman-killing/2012/04/20/id/436616