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http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/125210-Decision-Day-for-Victor! (http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/125210-Decision-Day-for-Victor!)
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Tomorrow is Friday, April 27. For most of us, it's just another day. But for Victor Martinez, it's a day of reckoning that will determine the course of the rest of his life. Tomorrow, a judge decides whether to allow Victor to remain in the United States of America, or to deport him back to the nation of his citizenship, the Dominican Republic - never to be allowed back into America for the rest of his days.
For Victor, his family, and friends; at least one positive outcome is sure. His incarceration at the Hudson County Correctional Facility in Kearny, NJ will come to an end after over seven months sitting in limbo awaiting his fate in front of a U.S. Immigration judge.
Martinez's nightmare began, ironically enough, immediately after one of his greatest triumphs. After a season where he had been disappointed to take third place at the Arnold Classic and then fourth at both the Mr. Olympia and the Sheru Classic, Victor traveled to Madrid, Spain and became the first-ever Arnold Classic Europe Champion on October 8, 2011.
His celebration was to be quite short-lived. Upon his return home, Victor was detained at JFK International Airport and taken into custody. His green card as a resident legal alien had expired some time before, and had been denied renewal. Martinez knew it was only a matter of time before his case came up for review and he would be taken to a correctional facility, but of course he could never have known it would happen so closely on the heels of one of his career highlights as an IFBB Pro.
"I should have known," he told me shortly after arriving at Hudson County. "My life is a roller coaster - something good happens, then something bad, over and over again."
With access to neither weights or quality food behind bars, Victor has watched his mighty physique scale down to more average proportions. His own estimate is that he's dropped about 60 pounds of muscle in the seven months in lockup. Much has been made of this on message board as both speculations and shameless gloating have spread online like a viral shadenfraude.
Ironically, in none of my many conversations with Victor did he seem overly preoccupied with the fact that his enormous musculature was wasting away day by day. Really, it was the least of his problems. "I have four kids, and if I get deported I will hardly ever see them again," he emphasized. "I've also lost my restaurant and my home while I've been in here."
Should Victor be allowed to stay in the USA, he has a long road ahead of him rebuilding not only his physique, but his very life. In a sense it will be like starting all over from scratch as he gradually outs the pieces of his life - personal and professional - back together again.
We at MD sincerely wish Victor the very best tomorrow and every day thereafter, and we will continue to keep you updated as tomorrow's events unfold.
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what's the betting ?
in or out ?
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deport the felon
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Adious Amigo
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If only there was someone, let's call him gh15, who could do something about this.
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His celebration was to be quite short-lived. Upon his return home, Victor was detained at JFK International Airport and taken into custody. His green card as a resident legal alien had expired some time before, and had been denied renewal. Martinez knew it was only a matter of time before his case came up for review and he would be taken to a correctional facility, but of course he could never have known it would happen so closely on the heels of one of his career highlights as an IFBB Pro.
Ah, I didn't know the details. He knew his green card expired and chose to fly.
Do they check you against the exipred list when you fly?
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Ah, I didn't know the details. He knew his green card expired and chose to fly.
Do they check you against the exipred list when you fly?
LOL... Looks like he took a gamble and lost big time, $5,000 euro Arnold classic payday vs $20,000 immigration lawyer fees + greasing money for Gh15 to do his thing
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"My life is a roller coaster - something good happens, then something bad, over and over again."
Um, you're green card expired, whose fault is that? IF something bad happened, it was only by his hands.
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I bet he weighs 185 lbs tops soaking wet....
if that
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Bye bye vic
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http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/125210-Decision-Day-for-Victor! (http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/showthread.php/125210-Decision-Day-for-Victor!)
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His green card as a resident legal alien had expired some time before, and had been denied renewal.
which means he is a felon, this country and the government do want to get rid of him
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He'll stay. 4 kids and losing his US tax-paying restaurant will benefit him.
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60 IBS?? Gotta be under 200 now :-\
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Why anyone gives a shit about this lying sack of shit drug dealer is beyond me.
Good riddance - in another 6 months another will take his place in the cogs of this machine called Bodybuilding.
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If he has 4 children on American soil and been living there so long I don't see why he would be deported. But life isn't fair, especially in politics and the state of the states. I wish him the best.
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Looking forward to the court pics, lol.
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" in none of my many conversations with Victor did he seem overly preoccupied with the fact that his enormous musculature was wasting away day by day"
thats the estrogen flooding his bloodstream.
lol, no quality food, no training as the reason for 60lbs weight loss, they forgot to name some other reasons ::)
i recently did 3 months in solitary with the shittest food imagineable and no gym and coming off cold turkey and managed to stay in pretty mch the same shape.same leanness, 10lbs gone, but thats it.
steroids are just the finishing touch, eh?
que g15 claIming credit for whatever direction this goes ::)
What got you 3 months of solitary if you don't mind me asking? And were you able to do body weight exercise like pushups, crunches, etc?
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Why anyone gives a shit about this lying sack of shit drug dealer is beyond me.
Good riddance - in another 6 months another will take his place in the cogs of this machine called Bodybuilding.
We need dealers to get our drugs from, we cant all get enough male hormones from cock juices like you.
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It' s real shame a champion like Victor has to sit in jail while a court decides the fate of his immigration case. At least he can wait at home in the Dominican Republic.
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If it was not for me,,,,victor would stay in longer I had my washington contacts,,,,get a smaller date to get hearing this week,,,,they wanted it in August,,,fellas victor is a good man with kids,,,,he didnothing wrong,,,,,YES IM WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES AS I TYPE,,,,
gh15 approved
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this would be hilarious if this whole story was made up
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60lbs gone? Even if he's deported he can still find a little consolation in knowing that 25% of him has somehow escaped.
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Yes, the updated pics will be interesting - will likely turn up in court in a ridiculously oversized suit like Bertil did at his court appearance back in the day.
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WTF people whats with all the hate?
I wish him all the best, hes a human being for god sake, how miserable are you people here that just want to see someone else have problems?
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How did he win Nationals if he's not a citizen? You gotta be a U S citizen to do any nation level npc show.
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WTF people whats with all the hate?
I wish him all the best, hes a human being for god sake, how miserable are you people here that just want to see someone else have problems?
I don't have any hate towards him - I wish him all the best too as this is a decision that will shape the rest of his life.
I'm just interested to see how much size he's lost purely from a bodybuilding perspective - you know, morbid curiosity and all that.
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4 kids? I didn't know he was married........
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4 kids? I didn't know he was married........
Since when do you need to be married to have kids?? :o :o :o
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Hope they're ok....wonder how the 'Mrs.' and the 4 kids have been getting along since he's been in jail.
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I certainly will be checking CNN regularly for updates or any developing news.
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Hope they're ok....wonder how the 'Mrs.' and the 4 kids have been getting along since he's been in jail.
I am sure the IFBB keeps sending regular checks to keep them going. ::) ::)
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WTF people whats with all the hate?
I wish him all the best, hes a human being for god sake, how miserable are you people here that just want to see someone else have problems?
No hate here either. But we can do with one less criminal in the USA.
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No hate here either. But we can do with one less criminal in the USA.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Plagued by misfortune.
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With another schedule, he would have been sharing his cell with Sevastase and learnt a few mindreading/mindbending tricks that could have come in handy.
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Don't worry guys.
I will throw all my influence in the case and make sure him to be freed.
Gonna take a nap right now but I'll call my boys at NASA as the first thing after that.
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How did he win Nationals if he's not a citizen? You gotta be a U S citizen to do any nation level npc show.
I have asked the question for many times, that's why this felon deserved to be deported permanently, even his championship and pro status are corrupted
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How did he win Nationals if he's not a citizen? You gotta be a U S citizen to do any nation level npc show.
Is Vladimir Sizov a citizen? Looks like it's not a requirement, kind of like drug testing.
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60lbs gone? Even if he's deported he can still find a little consolation in knowing that 25% of him has somehow escaped.
:clap: Ha, I just had a vision of 60lbs of androgen filled mass looking both ways, then slowly creeping out the cell on it's tippy toes.........:).
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How did he win Nationals if he's not a citizen? You gotta be a U S citizen to do any nation level npc show.
He had hs Visa at the time, plus he grew up in NYC...
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john titor gave me this picture to post on getbig, Victor Martinez in the Dominican Rep. dated Aug. 22, 2014
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What time is the Press conference if he gets released?
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GH15 delivered
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Yes, the updated pics will be interesting - will likely turn up in court in a ridiculously oversized suit like Bertil did at his court appearance back in the day.
Why interesting? Don't we all know he'll be much smaller than he was since he wasn't able to get the amount of food and gear he needed to be a world class bodybuilder?
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on a side not, Arms and Calves will be the same come tomorrow night,,,, A little SEO here and there and back in business
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Define criminal?
Half of the political order, most business people and many other insitutions are str8 up criminals. Get you head out of your ass and start thinking clearly.
USA has millions of illegal people and is doing very little about it. This is another example like what happened with Wesley Snipes. It was decided to make an example out if him to prove that the justice system works so the people will say 'yes we live in a country where laws are obeyed and if not punishement follows....now lets go back to work for our corporate masters and get fucked in the ass on a daily basis'.
Very few people have objectivity and logic. Most follow the logic of the elite and the group.
crim·i·nal (krm-nl)
adj.
1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.
2. Relating to the administration of penal law.
3.
a. Guilty of crime.
b. Characteristic of a criminal.
4. Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.
n.
One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime.
Ah, the "point the finger" defense. Old as shit and just as useful. When you start using logic beyond that of a 5th grader, we can have a debate.
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FRESH OUT OF FUCKING JAIL BITCHES!!!!!!!
:'( :'( :'(
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how he looked just days before going to jail
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That Hoodie they let him borrow out of jail, easily puts 20lbs on him
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he kinda kept some mass, its not toooo bad
vic is the one in black not gray...
IFBB getting dwarfed by 2 gym rats
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I hope no one expected him to come out of the slam weighing 270 and shredded! :D
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Prison is just the finishing touch.
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;D
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Incarceration of Peace
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Victors Mug Shot
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And a picture of him inside prison
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EPIC quoting of a dictionary. I believe YOU are in the 4th grade if you think justice is working fine and all who are to blame are indeed behind bars.
BIGGEST criminals MAKE the laws son. Laws you and I follow.
Instead of citing some dumb ass dictionary, think about where laws come from and WHO makes then. Look at many prevalent examples of law being skewed by racial motives, money and other stuff which should not be part of blind justice. Come back then.
Learn something son
yawn. stfu lame ass gimmick. You dont have the post count grasshopper.
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vic is the one in black not gray...
IFBB getting dwarfed by 2 gym rats
I hope Vic is standing on a curb. Otherwise, the guy in gray is about 5' tall.
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I hope Vic is standing on a curb. Otherwise, the guy in gray is about 5' tall.
he is hoping the extremely large dial watch makes him seem taller
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Maybe he's gonna do a Levrone now....
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Maybe he's gonna do a Levrone now....
Tequila, esiclene binge?
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He has that Barry Bonds Dome going on nowadays
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