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http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/may/16/obama-budget-defeated-99-0-senate
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Not even a single Democrat voted in favor of it?
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Stupid Democrats. STUPID LIBERALS.
Democrats disputed that it was actually the president's plan, arguing that the slim amendment didn't actually match Mr. Obama's budget document, which ran thousands of pages. But Republicans said they used all of the president's numbers in the proposal, so it faithfully represented his plan.
Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.
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Stupid Democrats. STUPID LIBERALS.
Democrats disputed that it was actually the president's plan, arguing that the slim amendment didn't actually match Mr. Obama's budget document, which ran thousands of pages. But Republicans said they used all of the president's numbers in the proposal, so it faithfully represented his plan.
Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.
Stupid GOP for calling a vote like that...complete waste of taxpayer's time. No moron is going to vote for a bill that they have not even seen and calling it "The President's Budget". It is Congress's job to set the budget and the president signs off on it..... ::)
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Stupid GOP for calling a vote like that...complete waste of taxpayer's time. No moron is going to vote for a bill that they have not even seen and calling it "The President's Budget". It is Congress's job to set the budget and the president signs off on it..... ::)
Hey idiot - obama has not even presented a credible budget since taking office!
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Stupid GOP for calling a vote like that...complete waste of taxpayer's time. No moron is going to vote for a bill that they have not even seen and calling it "The President's Budget". It is Congress's job to set the budget and the president signs off on it..... ::)
No way anyone in congress would vote for bill they haven't read ::)
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Hey idiot - obama has not even presented a credible budget since taking office!
The president makes recommendations on the budget.....he doesn't write the budget. That's Congress's job to collectively agree on it. Let me give you some basic political science knowledge
Legislative-makes laws (Congress)
Executive- enforces laws (President, Military, Police, FBI, etc)
Judical - interpets laws (Judges, District Attorneys)
Hope that helps ::)
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The president makes recommendations on the budget.....he doesn't write the budget. That's Congress's job to collectively agree on it. Let me give you some basic political science knowledge
Legislative-makes laws (Congress)
Executive- enforces laws (President, Military, Police, FBI, etc)
Judical - interpets laws (Judges, District Attorneys)
Hope that helps ::)
Yes it does help.
GOP House already voted for three budgets and the Senate under the amazing leadership of Reid and Obama in th WH refuse to do anything whatsoever on any of these problems.
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The president makes recommendations on the budget.....he doesn't write the budget. That's Congress's job to collectively agree on it. Let me give you some basic political science knowledge
Legislative-makes laws (Congress)
Executive- enforces laws (President, Military, Police, FBI, etc)
Judical - interpets laws (Judges, District Attorneys)
Hope that helps ::)
Doesn't the Budget and Accounting Act require the president to submit a budget?
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Doesn't the Budget and Accounting Act require the president to submit a budget?
Yes, he submitted a budget recently and its always modified and changed to appease both parties. That's why its ridiculous to call a vote on a budget where Congress hasn't had time to review or modify it as its usually 1000's of pages.
The vote is nothing more than a political stunt and a waste of time.
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Stupid GOP for calling a vote like that...complete waste of taxpayer's time. No moron is going to vote for a bill that they have not even seen and calling it "The President's Budget". It is Congress's job to set the budget and the president signs off on it..... ::)
lol you mean, the whole idea of "having to pass a bill to find out whats in it" doesnt work?
you should tell obama and pelosi that...
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The president makes recommendations on the budget.....he doesn't write the budget. That's Congress's job to collectively agree on it. Let me give you some basic political science knowledge
Legislative-makes laws (Congress)
Executive- enforces laws (President, Military, Police, FBI, etc)
Judical - interpets laws (Judges, District Attorneys)
Hope that helps ::)
Really? Cause Obama sure has seemed hell bent on making a lot of unpopular ideas into law instead of just enforcing the laws that CONGRESS (who represent the PEOPLE) deem necessary.
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Yes, he submitted a budget recently and its always modified and changed to appease both parties. That's why its ridiculous to call a vote on a budget where Congress hasn't had time to review or modify it as its usually 1000's of pages.
The vote is nothing more than a political stunt and a waste of time.
I don't know why you're handing out "basic political knowledge" retard.
It was the budget resolution that was actually being voted on, which sets the architecture for the appropriations process and is usually only 100 - 200 pages.
Maybe you should educated yourself before trying to educate others.
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I don't know why you're handing out "basic political knowledge" retard.
It was the budget resolution that was actually being voted on, which sets the architecture for the appropriations process and is usually only 100 - 200 pages.
Maybe you should educated yourself before trying to educate others.
Doesn't matter....if you haven't looked at those 200 pages, you're not going to vote for it. Both parties have been pulling this shit for over 20 years.....it needs to stop because it accomplishes nothing for us.
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Doesn't matter....if you haven't looked at those 200 pages, you're not going to vote for it. Both parties have been pulling this shit for over 20 years.....it needs to stop because it accomplishes nothing for us.
Yet democrats voted for 2000 page monstrosities like ObamaCare and Dodd frank without. Reading them.
Got it!
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very deceptive naming practice there.
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very deceptive naming practice there.
LOL!!!!!
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Yet democrats voted for 2000 page monstrosities like ObamaCare and Dodd frank without. Reading them.
Got it!
DING, DING, DING!!!
Again. STUPID DEMOCRATS. VERY STUPID LIBERALS!!!
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DING, DING, DING!!!
Again. STUPID DEMOCRATS. VERY STUPID LIBERALS!!!
Too fucking easy with these idiots
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Was it the repubs who actually WROTE and INTRODUCED this bill?
Oh geez, they wrote it, named it for the prez, then did a dance when it failed? WTF? hahahah pity clap.
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Was it the repubs who actually WROTE and INTRODUCED this bill?
Oh geez, they wrote it, named it for the prez, then did a dance when it failed? WTF? hahahah pity clap.
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I see this election going one of two ways. Either Obama wins (and you know it would be by a rigged election or voter intimidation and lies or all three because he doesn't have shit to run on) OR Romney wins by the biggest landslide margin ever.
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look, we are in agreement that obama hasn't done shit for the budget and the economy sucks worse than ever - even if dipships like mitt say it's improving.
That being said - did repubs really write this bill, then gloat when it was shot down by both sides? hahahaha PATHETIC!!!!!!
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look, we are in agreement that obama hasn't done shit for the budget and the economy sucks worse than ever - even if dipships like mitt say it's improving.
That being said - did repubs really write this bill, then gloat when it was shot down by both sides? hahahaha PATHETIC!!!!!!
There was NOTHING altered with the numbers. It is on those numbers that it was shot down. Got it?
Again!
Democrats disputed that it was actually the president's plan, arguing that the slim amendment didn't actually match Mr. Obama's budget document, which ran thousands of pages. But Republicans said they used all of the president's numbers in the proposal, so it faithfully represented his plan.
Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.
Are there things with your brain?
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it "faithfully" represented it?
Wow, that's just sad. Putting someone else's name on it, writing it, submitting it, voting against it, and calling it a win. WOW. just, wow. Weak, even by today's political standards.
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it "faithfully" represented it?
Wow, that's just sad. Putting someone else's name on it, writing it, submitting it, voting against it, and calling it a win. WOW. just, wow. Weak, even by today's political standards.
It was the president's plan. There was NO CHANGE. This is evident by the following sentence:
Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.
Again. Are there things with your brain?
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It was the president's plan. There was NO CHANGE. This is evident by the following sentence:
Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican, even challenged Democrats to point out any errors in the numbers and he would correct them — a challenge no Democrats took up.
Again. Are there things with your brain?
to intentionally submit a plan they know they will vote down is a waste of tax dollars. patentic waste of resources to 'make a point'?
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to intentionally submit a plan they know they will vote down is a waste of tax dollars. patentic waste of resources to 'make a point'?
Amazing - have you said the same thing about obama's insane budgets he knows are DOA?
Bro - you are getting as cracked in the head Himdenbitch.
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to intentionally submit a plan they know they will vote down is a waste of tax dollars. patentic waste of resources to 'make a point'?
So you rather have the Democrats continue to waste time and spend MORE tax money by dragging the process along. I got ya, sparky.
You are right. That Dems should put forth a serious plan and stop playing politics. The GOP already did months ago and Dems shot it down.
I think this is the second time I agree with you, 180.
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So you rather have the Democrats continue to waste time and spend MORE tax money by dragging the process along. I got ya, sparky.
You are right. That Dems should put forth a serious plan and stop playing politics. The GOP already did months ago and Dems shot it down.
I think this is the second time I agree with you, 180.
dems deserve a LOT of criticism for not submitting a budget. But this action did waste a lot of money - taxpayer $.
533 people (and their teams) had to come into work (at a very hefty salary) for a public 'stunt'.
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dems deserve a LOT of criticism for not submitting a budget. But this action did waste a lot of money - taxpayer $.
533 people (and their teams) had to come into work (at a very hefty salary) for a public 'stunt'.
you act like they werent going to get paid if they didnt...
they get paid either way...sunk cost ring a bell?
probably not eh
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you act like they werent going to get paid if they didnt...
they get paid either way...sunk cost ring a bell?
probably not eh
its not a sunk cost, because these congressman could have used that time to write, introduce, and vote upon other bills. Had they not spent their time on this, they woudln't have been in their offices doing nothing. they would have worked on other bills.
WIKI: "In economics and business decision-making, sunk costs are retrospective (past) costs that have already been incurred and cannot be recovered."
Um, sorry but I dont know how the fck you're calling this a sunk cost. There are other options - other tasks that would have been completed with the time spent. Even if their only action was for the 515 of them to refresh their email once - that is some work getting done.
IMO, your anxious rush to prove me wrong with a phrase you're using in Econ 1 has led to you calling this a sunk cost when it's not - When you get to the chapter on opportunity cost, we can try to measure what % of value was at play here. Maybe sitting in their office was much less, but a 'sunk cost'? No, sorry, doesn't apply here when we can safely assume the 535 members would have done SOMETHING to earn their salary, something under their job title. They would have been productive - if 1 of 535 picked up a piece of garbage on the floor, it wasn't a sunk cost. There were other options for that time.
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That being said - did repubs really write this bill, then gloat when it was shot down by both sides? hahahaha PATHETIC!!!!!!
Clearly someone with the ability to cut through the BS, subterfuge and useless distractions to get to the heart of the matter.
Keep it up!
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its not a sunk cost, because these congressman could have used that time to write, introduce, and vote upon other bills. Had they not spent their time on this, they woudln't have been in their offices doing nothing. they would have worked on other bills.
WIKI: "In economics and business decision-making, sunk costs are retrospective (past) costs that have already been incurred and cannot be recovered."
Um, sorry but I dont know how the fck you're calling this a sunk cost. There are other options - other tasks that would have been completed with the time spent. Even if their only action was for the 515 of them to refresh their email once - that is some work getting done.
IMO, your anxious rush to prove me wrong with a phrase you're using in Econ 1 has led to you calling this a sunk cost when it's not - When you get to the chapter on opportunity cost, we can try to measure what % of value was at play here. Maybe sitting in their office was much less, but a 'sunk cost'? No, sorry, doesn't apply here when we can safely assume the 535 members would have done SOMETHING to earn their salary, something under their job title. They would have been productive - if 1 of 535 picked up a piece of garbage on the floor, it wasn't a sunk cost. There were other options for that time.
its still a sunk cost cracker jack highlighted by the use of that past tense in your sentence you ignorant fuck!!!!!!!!
LMFAO so what university did you get your undergrad and MBA from again?
LOL goodness fucking gracious you dip shit!!!
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Doesn't matter....if you haven't looked at those 200 pages, you're not going to vote for it. Both parties have been pulling this shit for over 20 years.....it needs to stop because it accomplishes nothing for us.
1. Not the type of bill they need to read in its entirety.
2. It's not uncommon for them not to read bills, often having an aide or CoS do it.
3. Of course it's a political stunt.
4. Just give it a rest already - it's obvious you're clueless.