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Waste of money vs. Waste of money vs. Waste of Money.
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Veyron is just a fucking MONSTER and it would be rapped by the Underground Racing TTG
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sick cars
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Veyron is just a fucking MONSTER and it would be rapped by the Underground Racing TTG
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And then that car will break down...Damn near everything on the Veyron is certified to go 250+ and not break down. And it has special tires made for it...tires that the TT G doesn't have---because all that thing is a "because I can't get the Veyron". Over 1,000 hp and no changes to bodywork (wider wheel wells to accommodate wider rubber needed to put all that hp and torque to the road---oh my bad, the tires are specifically made for the Veyron. Impressive, as is their 700 hp 458, but anybody can turbocharge a car and create big hp, just look at all those 1,000 hp Supra a few yrs back...this is the same trend, except their using exotics.
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contact SMM/OMRB, thru his connections, you may not just be able to get that, but the driver as well.
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contact SMM/OMRB, thru his connections, you may not just be able to get that, but the driver as well.
Holy shit , is that Melao with the Brasilian flag ?
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Damn 16 Cylinders 4 turbos on the Bugatti :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Damn 16 Cylinders 4 turbos on the Bugatti :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Yes.. thats exactly what it has... 4 turbos... Super Chargers are a thing of the past.. they give more hp but strain the tranny and motor for that matter...
I just got a 1988 Camaro RS... its a 2.8 but tuesday im throwing 2 turbo chargers with a front mounter intercooler...ON TUESDAY BITCHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS . As well as a shift chip.
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And then that car will break down...Damn near everything on the Veyron is certified to go 250+ and not break down. And it has special tires made for it...tires that the TT G doesn't have---because all that thing is a "because I can't get the Veyron". Over 1,000 hp and no changes to bodywork (wider wheel wells to accommodate wider rubber needed to put all that hp and torque to the road---oh my bad, the tires are specifically made for the Veyron. Impressive, as is their 700 hp 458, but anybody can turbocharge a car and create big hp, just look at all those 1,000 hp Supra a few yrs back...this is the same trend, except their using exotics.
Who said it will break down? Underground does a 2/24K year warranty on their kits , what other tunner stands behind their products like that? and the Veyron needs special tires because of the weight of the car at a price of $40K not so much because of the speed , the TTG have done 250MPH at the Texas mile using off the rack P-zeros
Check this video 239MPH of off the rack street tires
And the TTG have no problem putting the power-to-the-pavement AWD boost controlled by gear no you get the maximum traction , these TTG will absolutely destroy any Veyron
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fuck, the lambo does the quartermile in 10.6@133 :o
thats not much slower than 1000cc bikes :o
9.1@169MPH with a soft launch , this car is already in the 8s
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Cool vid. 8)
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Yes.. thats exactly what it has... 4 turbos... Super Chargers are a thing of the past.. they give more hp but strain the tranny and motor for that matter...
I just got a 1988 Camaro RS... its a 2.8 but tuesday im throwing 2 turbo chargers with a front mounter intercooler...ON TUESDAY BITCHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS . As well as a shift chip.
rip that POS 2.8L out and throw in FI 5.7, then start thinking about turbos. 2.8 GM sucks, get rid of it while you still can. Besides why would you want a Camaro without a V8? just wrong..
Bugatti is fast but so hideous, sounds awful too. Funny car on pump gas rapes it. Lambo has way more sex appeal to me.
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rip that POS 2.8L out and throw in FI 5.7, then start thinking about turbos. 2.8 GM sucks, get rid of it while you still can. Besides why would you want a Camaro without a V8? just wrong..
Bugatti is fast but so hideous, sounds awful too. Funny car on pump gas rapes it. Lambo has way more sex appeal to me.
Well i thought the same thing... but i have a caddilac truck that guzzles gas like no ones business... so i wanted a cheap beater that i still enjoyed driving... thats the only reason i got the 2.8.... i wanted the z28 but i figured it would defeat the purpose of being the gas saver
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Well i thought the same thing... but i have a caddilac truck that guzzles gas like no ones business... so i wanted a cheap beater that i still enjoyed driving... thats the only reason i got the 2.8.... i wanted the z28 but i figured it would defeat the purpose of being the gas saver
Twin turbos on a 2.8 would probably be just as bad on gas as a V8LT/LS1 :-\
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Twin turbos on a 2.8 would probably be just as bad on gas as a V8LT/LS1 :-\
you think? What about 1?
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Twin turbos on a 2.8 would probably be just as bad on gas as a V8LT/LS1 :-\
i have had a couple cars with turbo...overall it increases gas mileage unless you are heavy on the throttle...many guys have taken their v8 mustangs in to get turbos and drove home getting over 30mpg with 600hp...someday the auto makers will get a fucking clue and turbo everything(ford is starting to get it)...a 4cyl turbo minivan would be much more efficient than v6, you have the power when you need it and just a little 4 banger when you don't
a single turbo is much better for overall power adder...twins are better for getting a lot of boost at low rpm
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Who said it will break down? Underground does a 2/24K year warranty on their kits , what other tunner stands behind their products like that? and the Veyron needs special tires because of the weight of the car at a price of $40K not so much because of the speed , the TTG have done 250MPH at the Texas mile using off the rack P-zeros
Check this video 239MPH of off the rack street tires
And the TTG have no problem putting the power-to-the-pavement AWD boost controlled by gear no you get the maximum traction , these TTG will absolutely destroy any Veyron
I'd say Hennessey has a better warranty, as he is now a manufacturer, not someone who puts kits
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bottomline, the Bug and Lambo are under VW, but come auction and resale time, nobody is going to pay big money for a TT Gallardo, but they will for the Bug...so in the end, class rapes crass...
Size, shape, symmetry over "all drugs", everytime. ;D
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I'd say Hennessey has a better warranty, as he is now a manufacturer, not someone who puts kits
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bottomline, the Bug and Lambo are under VW, but come auction and resale time, nobody is going to pay big money for a TT Gallardo, but they will for the Bug...so in the end, class rapes crass...
Size, shape, symmetry over "all drugs", everytime. ;D
John Hennessey has a shady past , and he does put kits together what do you think the Venom is? a Lotus with a stretched wheel base and Chevy V8 and two turbos
No one will pay big money for a TTG? define big money? they sell for about $250K that's big money , Veyrons will always demand a premium for a reason , but as far as speed it doesn't compete with the TTG
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John Hennessey has a shady past , and he does put kits together what do you think the Venom is? a Lotus with a stretched wheel base and Chevy V8 and two turbos
No one will pay big money for a TTG? define big money? they sell for about $250K that's big money , Veyrons will always demand a premium for a reason , but as far as speed it doesn't compete with the TTG
Top speed for Veyron SS, 260+ nobody comes close. Not even Callaway, because the Corvetter was running without it's cats when it did that 250. What I truly give VW credit for, is making that aerodynamic brick that had crashed as a prototype, into a tour de force.
I'm not sold on UGR, they are like the performance equivalent to Mansory course, who I am, I don't have the money for nether. I wonder about the wear and tear on the engine and gearbox, 4-5 yrs from now...many of these exotics tend to drop like rocks in terms of value, especially hard driven ones, and especially modded ones, but their maintenance stays sky high.
I just think it's a trend for dudes who have the money to do that, buy not the money nor time to look for the rare Enzo, Agera, Pagani Haurya, Bug, etc, because those command premiums, and their value is in them remaining stock. Even Konig's TT F50 has to be debadged, due to Ferrari saying that anything done to engine makes it not a Ferrari anymore.
True, Hennessey has a shady past, but when Jay Leno gives you props for the Venom GT (yes a lotus Elise that has up the dosage), he must be doing something right with that car...
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Yes.. thats exactly what it has... 4 turbos... Super Chargers are a thing of the past.. they give more hp but strain the tranny and motor for that matter...
I just got a 1988 Camaro RS... its a 2.8 but tuesday im throwing 2 turbo chargers with a front mounter intercooler...ON TUESDAY BITCHESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS . As well as a shift chip.
Uh... no.
So much wrong with this statement I dont even know where to start.
Turbo's create MUCH more power, since they spool off the exhaust charge, they have much less efficiency losses (as a blower is driven off the crankshaft).
The whole tranny/motor thing may have some credence, but only because a blower will create a much broader torque band than a turbo. It will create much more power lower in the RPM range, and that will ONLY put a bigger strain on the drivetrain IF the car hooks, which, unless youre running at the track with slicks, it wont.
Shock is what breaks drivetrain parts, not power.
However, it does put a strain on the main bearings in the motor, as your going to have a large drive pulley on the snout of the crank with a ribbed belt turning a compressor. You'll have a disproportiontley high load on the front bearings. In a street motor turning low RPM though, its not going to make a difference.
All JMHO.
I wouldnt even waste the time putting turbo's on a 2.8, its a piece of crap anyway. Id rip that bitch out and put in a small block, any GM small block (LS if your good with wiring and electronics), and then put your turbo's on it.
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John Hennessey has a shady past , and he does put kits together what do you think the Venom is? a Lotus with a stretched wheel base and Chevy V8 and two turbos
No one will pay big money for a TTG? define big money? they sell for about $250K that's big money , Veyrons will always demand a premium for a reason , but as far as speed it doesn't compete with the TTG
Hennessey is a shitbag, only reason he's doing ok now is because someone else owns the company and has him on a short leash.
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Well i thought the same thing... but i have a caddilac truck that guzzles gas like no ones business... so i wanted a cheap beater that i still enjoyed driving... thats the only reason i got the 2.8.... i wanted the z28 but i figured it would defeat the purpose of being the gas saver
I'm not real familiar with a 2.8, but if you meant a 3.8, there is little difference between it and the 5.7.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2000_Chevrolet_Camaro.shtml
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I'm not real familiar with a 2.8, but if you meant a 3.8, there is little difference between it and the 5.7.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2000_Chevrolet_Camaro.shtml
No, he means the 2.8. It was around in the 80's. Its a turd.
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Top speed for Veyron SS, 260+ nobody comes close. Not even Callaway, because the Corvetter was running without it's cats when it did that 250. What I truly give VW credit for, is making that aerodynamic brick that had crashed as a prototype, into a tour de force.
I'm not sold on UGR, they are like the performance equivalent to Mansory course, who I am, I don't have the money for nether. I wonder about the wear and tear on the engine and gearbox, 4-5 yrs from now...many of these exotics tend to drop like rocks in terms of value, especially hard driven ones, and especially modded ones, but their maintenance stays sky high.
I just think it's a trend for dudes who have the money to do that, buy not the money nor time to look for the rare Enzo, Agera, Pagani Haurya, Bug, etc, because those command premiums, and their value is in them remaining stock. Even Konig's TT F50 has to be debadged, due to Ferrari saying that anything done to engine makes it not a Ferrari anymore.
True, Hennessey has a shady past, but when Jay Leno gives you props for the Venom GT (yes a lotus Elise that has up the dosage), he must be doing something right with that car...
Top speed for the Veyron SS isn't 260MPH plus , Bugatti electronically limits all of them to 258MPH and to say nothing comes isn't accurate either , the Callaway did 254MPH ( back in 1988 ) and the SSC Aero did 256MPH , so there are cars that come close
And I wasn't talking about terminal velocity when I said the Veryon can't touch the Underground racing TTG , although the TTG does 250MPH in the span of 1 mile and the regular Veyron ' only ' does 204MPH , I don't think anyone has tested an Undeground car for top speed but as far as acceleration all over the spectrum the Veyron can't compete , granted it has much less horsepower
And value in 4-5 years? that can be said of any regular car look at the prices of the F430s , the Murcielagos , new models comes out older ones go down nothing new , the Veyron will always command a premium because it's basically a bespoke automobile much like the Pagani and the Koenigsegg
As far as the Venom I actually like it but what have you heard from it? any customer deliveries? any magazine full tests? I haven't heard of any so Jay got a ride? they knew he wasn't gonna push it to it's limits and they are apparently are trying to drum up business , I could understand the price tag of a Veyron for $1MIL plus because of the amount of engineering that went in and the new technologies that were developed but $1MIL for a stretched out Lotus with a Chevy big block? :-X
On the Wiki article it says a total of 4 Venom GT have been made I wonder how many made it into customers hands? the Venom is turning out to be like the Vector , lots of talk some pretty prototypes but not much more at least the Veyron and the TTG have proven themselves already
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The Bug SS did 260+, that was the big deal with it. the ones they sell to the public have been limited to what 258.
The Callaway did the 254 w/o cats, it wasn't road legal. The Jag XJ220 did 218 on the Nardo track with Martin Brundle behind the wheel---it too ran w/o cats.
Quite true those exotics in 4-5 yrs will depreciate, high mileage and especially modded exotics go for far less...because the fuckers are expensive, and chances are the modded ones were driven hard---especially if modded to 1k hp. Then there is the maintenance records, and even if UGR has a 2yr warranty, would YOU touch one (if having the money to do so) after the warranty is up?
And actually, I find what they did to the 458 (700 hp) intriguing---as it was speculated that the F70 (or whatever it will be called) would have a TT V8, and 900 hp. We know now it will probably have the V12 hybrid that they previewed at Beijing.
I haven't heard too much on the Venom GT in terms of deliveries...But, what's funny, as a did a thread on
this before, the Lotus Elise has been lengthened and had Chevy power before, back in the 90s there was the Elise GT1, and then there was another version as well.
This seems to be an updated take on that. it seems quite professionally done...when Leno took a look at it, he was impressed with the level of craftsmanship and detail. Don't know if he has one or not.
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fastest car on the streets right there
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fastest car on the streets right there
Fun ride, but will definitely not get you laid.
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^fast, but zero sex appeal. top fuel dragster eats it for breakfast..
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The Bug SS did 260+, that was the big deal with it. the ones they sell to the public have been limited to what 258.
The Callaway did the 254 w/o cats, it wasn't road legal. The Jag XJ220 did 218 on the Nardo track with Martin Brundle behind the wheel---it too ran w/o cats.
Quite true those exotics in 4-5 yrs will depreciate, high mileage and especially modded exotics go for far less...because the fuckers are expensive, and chances are the modded ones were driven hard---especially if modded to 1k hp. Then there is the maintenance records, and even if UGR has a 2yr warranty, would YOU touch one (if having the money to do so) after the warranty is up?
And actually, I find what they did to the 458 (700 hp) intriguing---as it was speculated that the F70 (or whatever it will be called) would have a TT V8, and 900 hp. We know now it will probably have the V12 hybrid that they previewed at Beijing.
I haven't heard too much on the Venom GT in terms of deliveries...But, what's funny, as a did a thread on
this before, the Lotus Elise has been lengthened and had Chevy power before, back in the 90s there was the Elise GT1, and then there was another version as well.
This seems to be an updated take on that. it seems quite professionally done...when Leno took a look at it, he was impressed with the level of craftsmanship and detail. Don't know if he has one or not.
The Bug SS did 260+, that was the big deal with it. the ones they sell to the public have been limited to what 258.
Yes I know it was a big deal but the 260+ MPH means nothing to customers because they are limited to just 5MPH more than a stock version , you have to hand it to Bugatti charging $1 Million more for just 5 more MPH ::)
The Callaway did the 254 w/o cats, it wasn't road legal. The Jag XJ220 did 218 on the Nardo track with Martin Brundle behind the wheel---it too ran w/o cats.
It was road legal , in fact they drove it from Old Lyme to Ohio to boot , back then some states didn't require cats and do you think they couldn't put cats on that and still go over 250? you honestly think cats rob that much power? and I've read some where that Nardo allows manufactures to add 5MPH because of the oval , not sure if that's true.
Callaway could have gone further the Sledgehammer was 3900lbs with 898HP imagine if they upped the HP and lowered the weight? they did 254 with 80s technology imagine what they could do now? It took 1001HP and cutting edge technology ( the original did 253MPH ) and the infinite resources of the VW group to come close
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^fast, but zero sex appeal. top fuel dragster eats it for breakfast..
we are talking street legal car here, ya its not the most attractive car but, damn its fast
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we are talking street legal car here, ya its not the most attractive car but, damn its fast
lol very fast.. looks like a death trap to me though. Getting stuck between 2 semi's in that thing would ruin your day.
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lol very fast.. looks like a death trap to me though. Getting stuck between 2 semi's in that thing would ruin your day.
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