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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Raymondo on May 23, 2012, 04:54:35 PM
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Nothing you haven't already heard from pros/ex-pros, although there are a few surprises.
Also, there is the obligatory pitch for snake oil at the end.
So, from the Levrone report
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Slaying The Elephant In The Room
May 2nd, 2012
Talking about roids once and for all so you can stop asking.
The expression, “elephant in the room,” is defined as an obvious truth that is being ignored or goes unaddressed. I hate these kinds of elephants, and it’s the job of a good journalist to slay these elephants.
In the bodybuilding
industry, the elephant is steroids. The industry avoids talking about it, but fans and bodybuilders at all levels have no problem asking about it.
The most common fan question that comes in is something like:
“Hey Kev, why don’t the pros talk about the best way to take roids? It would be great if you step up and talk openly about it, we just want to know the truth, that’s all.”
I hate elephants, so I’m going to use this opportunity to slay the steroid elephant once and for all – as it pertains to me anyway.
This officially represents the LIMIT I’m willing to go when it comes to talking steroids. Once you read this, PLEASE, never litter my inbox again with questions about steroids. This is as far as I go.
First, a few words in defense of the industry (which I respect) and its many ambassadors, by way of an analogy to the music industry.
As we all know, rock and rap musicians like their drugs. Rolling Stone magazine isn’t stupid enough to pretend otherwise. They’d probably even admit that drug abuse, sadly, plays an integral roll. However, Rolling Stone is under no obligation to tell its readers how to take drugs. And neither are the rock stars or concert promoters. Aside from being dangerous and illegal information, it would be pointless.
Drugs without hard work and talent amount to nothing. Drug abuse is not an
exact science – it’s risky, and everyone reacts differently. Taking drugs won’t earn you a gold record or an IFBB pro card, unless you’re already a remarkable specimen with an insane work ethic and tremendous luck.
I know the rock & roll analogy isn’t perfect. Which is why I’m going to toss you a few bones…er, a few facts, rather, not unlike the rap sheet of street drugs your teachers covered in high school health class. It’s neither an endorsement, nor a menu for what I personally did, and it’s all I’ll ever say on the subject. Here goes…
Bodybuilders who take roids generally do it in two cycles: bulking phase in the months leading up to a show, and cutting phase, which can be the last six weeks before a show.
Some drugs are injected, which can cause abscesses or embolisms; and some are swallowed, which can cause profound liver damage if taken in the wrong doses, or for too long. Most advanced users will combine the two approaches at once.
Bodybuilders who use drugs under the guidance of a DOCTOR are at a huge advantage in terms of long-term health. The physician can be a close friend or family member willing to bend the rules as the lesser of
two evils: they can’t stop the user from using, but at least they can stop him from dying.
A bulking cycle can involve the abuse of Anadrol, Deca and some form of testosterone…perhaps a mixed testosterone, like Sustanine 250.
A
cutting cycle can include the abuse of Anavar, Winstrol V, i.e., elements that can work with very low calories and don’t cause you to retain water.
Clembuterol/aspirin is something that is abused during the cutting phase, as it can thin the skin and boost the heart rate. Today, legal fat burners can be found at the MD supplement store that are safer and work fine.
Human growth hormone builds mass but causes water retention that tortoise-shaped distended-stomach look that has Michelangelo rolling in his grave.
Nolvadex is an estrogen blocker taken concurrently with the bulking and cutting cycles, to help reduce side-effects and increase the effects of steroids.
Demadex is a fast-acting diuretic that works quickly, even when abused the night before a show – a nice product if you live to tell about it. This bodybuilder cheated death a few times. You might not be so lucky.
If the above list slay the elephant by way of stating facts. Bottom line:
yes, some bodybuilders use steroids. (Duh.)
I used steroids in moderation, and one of the main reasons I lost up to 30 lbs in the off season is because I had no interest in putting any more of that swill into my body than necessary to win shows. I would take truckloads of liver pills, drink oceans of water and pray for my life.
Today I use Life Force MD Bio Identical Hormone Replacement a safe, legal route to maximizing my gains. I can get shockingly close to emulating the effects of anabolic steroids, without the risks or illegalities.
When it comes to getting huge and ripped, steroids should be on the bottom of your checklist, or not on it at all. There’s tons of stuff to consider first. Training, nutrition, water, rest, supplements, and the controlled insanity
of needing to be the best – a mental state that I explore deeply.
Mentally, you may have more in common with an IFBB Hall of Fame legend than you thought.
Guys,
I Have The Best Overall Record In Body Building History To Date, IFBB Hall Of Famer, CEO Of Levrone Formula Inc., Founding Member Of Life Force MD, Editor-in-Chief of Levrone Report, 100% Health and Mostly Very Proud Dad. Success Is In You Not A Bottle Or Pill You Take.
Peace,
Kevin
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Forget the steroids, what about the massive amounts of HGH/insulin and SEO oil?
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Forget the steroids, what about the massive amounts of HGH/insulin and SEO oil?
Good points
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''I used steroids in moderation, and one of the main reasons I lost up to 30 lbs in the off season is because I had no interest in putting any more of that swill into my body than necessary to win shows. I would take truckloads of liver pills, drink oceans of water and pray for my life.''
Powerful words...
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What is MD Bio Identical Hormone Replacement?
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FILTY MUTANT
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Steroids don't build real physiques.
It's only maintainable with constant use.
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Another ex pro talking about steroids without really talking about them. Weak.
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who's this guy? Did he get a medical condition or something or just said "fuck it"?
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WEAK post. Not impressed, Levrone. Not impressed.
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wat more can he say :-\
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who's this guy? Did he get a medical condition or something or just said "fuck it"?
I still have difficulty believing that is the same guy.
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who's this guy? Did he get a medical condition or something or just said "fuck it"?
He's the guy on the far left.
One of the top pros of the 2000's.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=311378.0;attach=351655;image)
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He said what he could say, couldn't say no more without LE knocking at his door and loosing $$$$. He even let out a few product names, for those who don't know anything they now know a little more :p
Nice read. Tkx
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Mustafa-mohammad If im not mistaken. Good bber IMO
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Another ex pro talking about steroids without really talking about them. Weak.
THIS
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Mustafa-mohammad If im not mistaken. Good bber IMO
Mustafa Mohammad...
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all drugs
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he musta totally quit training and said frig it cause even when you stop a cycle you will still hold onto some muscle providing you keep training and dieting hard. that must mentally mess with a person who was that jacked up and then shrunk down to nothing, it must feel like be a millionare then being broke
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Maybe he should just have kept his fucking mouth shut.
6 week cutting cycles before a show? ::) ::) ::)
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Nothing you haven't already heard from pros/ex-pros, although there are a few surprises.
Also, there is the obligatory pitch for snake oil at the end.
So, from the Levrone report
words in defense [/b] of the industry (which I respect) and its many ambassadors, by way of an analogy to the music industry.
As we all know, rock and rap musicians ]like their drugs. Rolling Stone magazine isn’t stupid enough to pretend otherwise. They’d probably even admit that drug abuse, sadly, plays an integral roll. However, Rolling Stone is under no obligation to tell its readers how to take drugs. And neither are the rock stars or concert promoters. Aside from being dangerous and illegal information, it would be pointless. [/size]
Peace,
Kevin
What a stupid comparison, to be a rock star you dont need info on hot to take drugs,to become a pro bodybuilder you need to get tons of drugs handy and know exactly what and when should be injected.
Moron !
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he musta totally quit training and said frig it cause even when you stop a cycle you will still hold onto some muscle providing you keep training and dieting hard. that must mentally mess with a person who was that jacked up and then shrunk down to nothing, it must feel like be a millionare then being broke
Yeah, but he's also able to walk around without being winded. Take pics with people without having sweaty armpits showing...I mean he looks like Eric Benet's younger brother.
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Another ex pro talking about steroids without really talking about them. Weak.
This.
It sounded like he was giving a tuition in Steroids 101.
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Steroids don't build real physiques.
It's only maintainable with constant use.
lol....shit, in the space of 3 years, this guy deflated like a freaking balloon running out of Helium
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This.
It sounded like he was giving a tutorial in Steroids 101.
fixed
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fixed
Haha - thanks, i know what I meant! ;D
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Wow...they do NOT even look like they EVER worked out...
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How full of shit.
Anyone who is experienced with dealing with liars can see right through this shit.
Never heard of tren? lol
This is such a poor attempt at pretending to downplay steroid abuse.
This reminds me of when someone is lying through their teeth about something, and just
says way too much stuff in a vague way in order to trick naive fools into thinking he
is being honest. This was posted on Promuscle and a bunch of guys thought it was an excellent
and truthful look at things, lol.
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You're foolish if you don't realize the whole point of his interview was to name drop Life Force MD Bio Identical Hormone Replacement Therapy, for which Levrone is a founding member of the company.
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There is serious mauvaise foi in bodybuilding. On his site, Levrone wrote the following response to a reader's statements:
Kevin Levrone says:
May 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@pangloss –
GH I don’t know much about only used it once for about 6 weeks it made my stomach and waist line larger. Look at the pic of 97 Arnold Classic. Never again i didn’t like the look it gave me. Synthol/SEO don’t know nothing about never took it. Insulin, don’t know nothing about bro stayed away from that stuff also. Pangloss takes the steroids out the game the same guys still would be at the top. It’s called God Gifted Talents With Genetics. Like it or not that’s what’s up.
Peace,
Kevin
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There is serious mauvaise foi in bodybuilding. On his site, Levrone wrote the following response to a reader's statements:
Kevin Levrone says:
May 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@pangloss –
GH I don’t know much about only used it once for about 6 weeks it made my stomach and waist line larger. Look at the pic of 97 Arnold Classic. Never again i didn’t like the look it gave me. Synthol/SEO don’t know nothing about never took it. Insulin, don’t know nothing about bro stayed away from that stuff also. Pangloss takes the steroids out the game the same guys still would be at the top. It’s called God Gifted Talents With Genetics. Like it or not that’s what’s up.
Peace,
Kevin
HOLY FUCK, and that in 2012.
I always thought he was an asshole, but this?
HGH for 6 weeks and it made his stomach distended? No insulin? WTF does he think those readers are?
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LOL, God given talent and genetics ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=426714.0;attach=470593;image)
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"When it comes to getting huge and ripped, steroids should be on the bottom of your checklist, or not on it at all. There’s tons of stuff to consider first. Training, nutrition, water..."
I agree about water being more important than steroids if you want to get big.
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Another ex pro talking about steroids without really talking about them. Weak.
Greg Zulak used to to that, as well. Fortress?
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There is serious mauvaise foi in bodybuilding. On his site, Levrone wrote the following response to a reader's statements:
Kevin Levrone says:
May 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm
@pangloss –
GH I don’t know much about only used it once for about 6 weeks it made my stomach and waist line larger. Look at the pic of 97 Arnold Classic. Never again i didn’t like the look it gave me. Synthol/SEO don’t know nothing about never took it. Insulin, don’t know nothing about bro stayed away from that stuff also. Pangloss takes the steroids out the game the same guys still would be at the top. It’s called God Gifted Talents With Genetics. Like it or not that’s what’s up.
Peace,
Kevin
Hahahahaha ! WHAT A LOAD OF FUCKING SHIT ! HAHAHAHAHAHA !!
Levrone never used SEO { * cough cough * ESCILINE * cough cough * }, insulin, and / or GH consistently durin' his career ????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!
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HAHAHA, that he only lost 30 pounds while not on. He is about 100 pounds lighter today.
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Levrone slept with the wrong Hollywood men and now his acting career is done