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Title: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 25, 2012, 11:26:04 AM
(Reuters) - Neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman made statements to police that help establish his guilt in the second-degree murder case against him for killing unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, prosecutors said in a court filing on Thursday.

The claim came in a motion by prosecutors to keep some of Zimmerman's statements under seal pending his trial in a case that triggered civil rights protests across the United States, while sparking widespread debate over guns, self-defense laws and U.S. race relations.

"Defendant (Zimmerman) has provided law enforcement with numerous statements, some of which are contradictory, and are inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses," the prosecutors said in their court filing.

They said the statements by Zimmerman were admissible in court and "in conjunction with other statements and evidence help to establish defendant's guilt in this case."

The court filing offered no details about the statements Zimmerman made to police or other law enforcement officials. It said Florida's public records law had no provision requiring "the disclosure of a confession" of a defendant.

"The state asserts that this provision includes an admission of a defendant that could be used against him at trial," the filing said.

Zimmerman, 28 is charged with shooting and killing the 17-year-old Martin as he walked through a gated residential community in Sanford, Florida, near Orlando, on February 26.

Police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, citing Florida's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense law, but a special prosecutor who was subsequently appointed charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder.

Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty.

In a separate court filing on Thursday, Zimmerman's lawyer Mark O'Mara joined in the motion to keep his client's statements out of the public eye for the time being.

"There is the possibility that these statements may be subject to motions to suppress, if there is a potentially involuntary statement elicited from Mr. Zimmerman," O'Mara said.

"The release of that information would be highly prejudicial to Mr. Zimmerman's case, and again, would adversely affect the proper administration of justice," he said.

O'Mara also asked the judge to withhold what he said were thousands of emails received by the Sanford police about the case, some of which are racially charged, and Zimmerman's own text messages, emails and journal entries obtained by prosecutors as part of their evidence gathering.

Seminole County Circuit Court Judge Kenneth Lester set a June 1 hearing to consider the motions for a protective order.


Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Straw Man on May 25, 2012, 11:40:35 AM
(Reuters) - Neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman made statements to police that help establish his guilt in the second-degree murder case against him for killing unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, prosecutors said in a court filing on Thursday.

The claim came in a motion by prosecutors to keep some of Zimmerman's statements under seal pending his trial in a case that triggered civil rights protests across the United States, while sparking widespread debate over guns, self-defense laws and U.S. race relations.

"Defendant (Zimmerman) has provided law enforcement with numerous statements, some of which are contradictory, and are inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses," the prosecutors said in their court filing.

They said the statements by Zimmerman were admissible in court and "in conjunction with other statements and evidence help to establish defendant's guilt in this case."

The court filing offered no details about the statements Zimmerman made to police or other law enforcement officials. It said Florida's public records law had no provision requiring "the disclosure of a confession" of a defendant.

"The state asserts that this provision includes an admission of a defendant that could be used against him at trial," the filing said.

Zimmerman, 28 is charged with shooting and killing the 17-year-old Martin as he walked through a gated residential community in Sanford, Florida, near Orlando, on February 26.

Police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, citing Florida's "Stand Your Ground" self-defense law, but a special prosecutor who was subsequently appointed charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder.

Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty.

In a separate court filing on Thursday, Zimmerman's lawyer Mark O'Mara joined in the motion to keep his client's statements out of the public eye for the time being.

"There is the possibility that these statements may be subject to motions to suppress, if there is a potentially involuntary statement elicited from Mr. Zimmerman," O'Mara said.

"The release of that information would be highly prejudicial to Mr. Zimmerman's case, and again, would adversely affect the proper administration of justice," he said.

O'Mara also asked the judge to withhold what he said were thousands of emails received by the Sanford police about the case, some of which are racially charged, and Zimmerman's own text messages, emails and journal entries obtained by prosecutors as part of their evidence gathering.

Seminole County Circuit Court Judge Kenneth Lester set a June 1 hearing to consider the motions for a protective order.

I'm not even the slightest bit suprised by this

Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 25, 2012, 12:17:22 PM
"Defendant (Zimmerman) has provided law enforcement with numerous statements, some of which are contradictory, and are inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses," the prosecutors said in their court filing

I've been saying this for a month now

I knew it from the moment I heard that 911 call "he looks like hes on drugs OR SOMETHING".   If you'll just "wing it" on a 911 call, you will most certainly spin a nice yarn with the blood of a minor on your hands. 

He lied to police.  I knew it.  Most of us knew it.  Only the few people who still believe Cain never did anything inappropriate in 43 years still believe Zimm told thr truth that night.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Dos Equis on May 25, 2012, 01:12:29 PM

"Defendant (Zimmerman) has provided law enforcement with numerous statements, some of which are contradictory, and are inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses," the prosecutors said in their court filing.



What are they?
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Skip8282 on May 25, 2012, 01:23:51 PM
Rule #1 - Don't say jackshit without your attorney.

Cops haul you in...shut the fuck up.

Even the most innocent remark can sometimes be construed negatively.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Straw Man on May 25, 2012, 01:30:06 PM
Rule #1 - Don't say jackshit without your attorney.

Cops haul you in...shut the fuck up.

Even the most innocent remark can sometimes be construed negatively.

very true but Zimm doesn't strike me as the brightest bulb in the lamp and it seems he had a previous encounters with the cops and was known to them so he quite likely felt comfortable and just starting blabbing away
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Shockwave on May 25, 2012, 01:39:48 PM
Well - this could really fuck him depending on what he said.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Straw Man on May 25, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
Well - this could really fuck him depending on what he said.

if his story contains any fabrication then it's almost impossible to keep the lies consistent, especially when they start to compare it step by step with what happened that night, what he told his friends, what he might have texted etc...
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 25, 2012, 01:52:13 PM
if his story contains any fabrication then it's almost impossible to keep the lies consistent, especially when they start to compare it step by step with what happened that night, what he told his friends, what he might have texted etc...


the 911 call he made picked up a lot of things.
the 911 calls of others recorded his yelling before the shooting. 

They interviewed him for a few ohurs, right?  His 85 IQ ass was making it up as he went, probably.  Just liek he did on the phone - "he's reaching in his waistband, now he has something in his hands..."

There's a time to exaggerate, but giving a statement to the cops while a kid is on ice is NOT one of them.

Even better will be when the statements his dad/brother made to the media DONT match what he told the police haha.  Brutal 'lets taint the jury pool" tactics.  Little bitches.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 25, 2012, 03:22:56 PM
Zimmerman's Self Defense Claim.... ;D

Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 25, 2012, 06:05:20 PM
he's coming right at us hahahahahhahahaha

fucker shot a kid.  trying to be a hero.  little beyotch.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 26, 2012, 05:45:19 AM
(Reuters) - Neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman made statements to police that help establish his guilt in the second-degree murder case against him for killing unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, prosecutors said in a court filing on Thursday.

The claim came in a motion by prosecutors to keep some of Zimmerman's statements under seal pending his trial in a case that triggered civil rights protests across the United States, while sparking widespread debate over guns, self-defense laws and U.S. race relations.

In a separate court filing on Thursday, Zimmerman's lawyer Mark O'Mara joined in the motion to keep his client's statements out of the public eye for the time being.

it seems weird that a guy who didn't lie, didn't break any laws, and was only defending himself woudln't want his honorable and heroic interview being put out there.

if there are no lies or inconsistencies as the getbig defense claims, then what's the problem?  It would only give the jury pool reassurance of this man's innocence.

(This is the part where getbiggers dig deeper in their defense of the obama-voting, fiance-beating, LEO-assaulting, gun-toting lying her known as the zimmerman".

Golly, it's gonna be so silent on getbig once the interview comes out and we discover what those of us with bullshit detectors already knew - this cat was lying and exaggerating left and right in that interview.  There's a damn good reason the lead detective wanted to charge him that night - he heard every word and believed zimm was lying.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Skip8282 on May 26, 2012, 03:44:33 PM
it seems weird that a guy who didn't lie, didn't break any laws, and was only defending himself woudln't want his honorable and heroic interview being put out there.

if there are no lies or inconsistencies as the getbig defense claims, then what's the problem?  It would only give the jury pool reassurance of this man's innocence.

(This is the part where getbiggers dig deeper in their defense of the obama-voting, fiance-beating, LEO-assaulting, gun-toting lying her known as the zimmerman".

Golly, it's gonna be so silent on getbig once the interview comes out and we discover what those of us with bullshit detectors already knew - this cat was lying and exaggerating left and right in that interview.  There's a damn good reason the lead detective wanted to charge him that night - he heard every word and believed zimm was lying.




How so?  The only split I see on the board on people like you and Mal who have convicted him already...and those of us saying let the system work.  ::)

BTW, even if he is convicted, 9/10ths of your bullshit...will still be bullshit.   ;)
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 26, 2012, 04:47:37 PM
How so?  The only split I see on the board on people like you and Mal who have convicted him already...and those of us saying let the system work.  ::)
BTW, even if he is convicted, 9/10ths of your bullshit...will still be bullshit.   ;)

A few getbiggers have said from minute 1 that zimm wasn't bullshitting police, wasn't lying, and they believed him.

For me, the bullshit detector went off from the phone call and it only got worse when his dad/brother went on the news to taint the jury pool with more obvious lies "60 seconds of head smashing" and "He said you die tonight" - things that weren't backup up by 911 calls or physical evidence.  Also they were 4-point, textbook justified force, something that didn't jive with the leadd detective's assessment when he wanted to charge zimm that night.

So anytime a politician, a shooter citing gun law irresponsibly, or anyone else comes out with a lie so obvious it is insulting, I cringe.  I prefer an honest evil man over a half-ass who lies thru his teeth.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Shockwave on May 26, 2012, 04:56:56 PM
A few getbiggers have said from minute 1 that zimm wasn't bullshitting police, wasn't lying, and they believed him.

For me, the bullshit detector went off from the phone call and it only got worse when his dad/brother went on the news to taint the jury pool with more obvious lies "60 seconds of head smashing" and "He said you die tonight" - things that weren't backup up by 911 calls or physical evidence.  Also they were 4-point, textbook justified force, something that didn't jive with the leadd detective's assessment when he wanted to charge zimm that night.

So anytime a politician, a shooter citing gun law irresponsibly, or anyone else comes out with a lie so obvious it is insulting, I cringe.  I prefer an honest evil man over a half-ass who lies thru his teeth.
What are you talking about? Everyone pretty much said the same thing - were being fed a line of BS by the media, lets wait to see what comes of it.
As evidence presented itself, it appeared he was going to get off. Now that there are claims that his story has contradictions, its more of a crapshoot again.

You and youre troop are the only retards that had this guy convicted day 1 - and its all because you let MSNBC do your thinking for you.
Youve done nothing but spout "My BS meter" and MSNBC talking points since the 1st fucking day.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 26, 2012, 05:38:10 PM
What are you talking about? Everyone pretty much said the same thing - were being fed a line of BS by the media, lets wait to see what comes of it.
As evidence presented itself, it appeared he was going to get off. Now that there are claims that his story has contradictions, its more of a crapshoot again.

I disagree.  I believe a lot of getbiggers have been very vocal about "ZImmerman is gonna walk!"   Not a lot of "let's be patient and see what happens" from either site.  This is a discussion board.  It's designed to talk about the 'what ifs' of the case.    333386 posting 'zimmerman winning' for example.

It'll be funny to see people 'disowning' zimmerman as the facts come to light. 
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 26, 2012, 05:50:53 PM
240, were you assbangin' Trayvon or something?  You seem to be WAY to overly invested in this case.  Everytime something like this comes out, which this article does absolutely ZERO of explaining anything, you are so quick to play the "told you so" card when in reality the article said nothing and none of us knows what really went down that night.  You have interjected so much speculation and conjecture into this that you just keep getting in further and further.  Have a beer and relax a bit......it's not like the kid was going to finish Beethoven's.....you know the rest.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Shockwave on May 26, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
240, were you assbangin' Trayvon or something?  You seem to be WAY to overly invested in this case.  Everytime something like this comes out, which this article does absolutely ZERO of explaining anything, you are so quick to play the "told you so" card when in reality the article said nothing and none of us knows what really went down that night.  You have interjected so much speculation and conjecture into this that you just keep getting in further and further.  Have a beer and relax a bit......it's not like the kid was going to finish Beethoven's.....you know the rest.
Lol, you know its bad when a random 3rd party that never really posts on the political board calls you out on your horseshit.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 26, 2012, 09:35:55 PM
it's beacuse zimmerman was so quick to use the 'stand your ground' defense - a useful part of FL law which is very much in danger now, thanks to the national campaign by bloomberg which will piggyback this trial.

Gun rights will be eroded.  Anyone who shoots someone legally is going to have more trouble convincing a jury.  ZImmerman is a pig who coudln't wait for police.  He had to go try to be a hero and WORST of all - he lied about thigns to police regarding a self-defense shoot.  This means anytime me or 33 or anyone else legally shoots someone, we have to face the stigma he creates.  it's undeniable.  Jurors punish injustice in future cases.  and prosecutors and police will be VERY quick  to indict (just in case) to cover their asses thanks to sanford PD's shitty handling of things.

So that's why I hate zimmerman.  Trayvon belonged in jail for drug crimes, I'm not bedwetter there.  I'm mad zimmerman decided to create a violent situation instead of letting police do their job.  He wasn't in danger - in fact, trayvon was running from him. HE created the dangerous situation by chasing down a scared kid in the dark with a gun.   
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: garebear on May 26, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
240, were you assbangin' Trayvon or something?  You seem to be WAY to overly invested in this case.  Everytime something like this comes out, which this article does absolutely ZERO of explaining anything, you are so quick to play the "told you so" card when in reality the article said nothing and none of us knows what really went down that night.  You have interjected so much speculation and conjecture into this that you just keep getting in further and further.  Have a beer and relax a bit......it's not like the kid was going to finish Beethoven's.....you know the rest.
Yes. People who you disagree with are obviously engaged in homosexual behavior.

Way to elevate the debate, stud.

Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 26, 2012, 10:02:12 PM
my disgust with zimm isn't about trayvon.  it's about people who lie and risk all of our rights while doing so.  It's about insecure people who carry a gun not to protect themselves but to be a hero and deliver justice.  He should have waited in his truck - or driven his truck to trayvon.

He needed that confrontation to get trayvon in jail.  That's what he wanted.  get the kid to swing, police pull up and save him, the kid gets a year of assault and he's the guy who saved them all.    Didn't count on sanford PD being slow as molasses and the kid going iron mike on him. 
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Shockwave on May 27, 2012, 04:15:56 AM
my disgust with zimm isn't about trayvon.  it's about people who lie and risk all of our rights while doing so.  It's about insecure people who carry a gun not to protect themselves but to be a hero and deliver justice.  He should have waited in his truck - or driven his truck to trayvon.

He needed that confrontation to get trayvon in jail.  That's what he wanted. get the kid to swing, police pull up and save him, the kid gets a year of assault and he's the guy who saved them all.    Didn't count on sanford PD being slow as molasses and the kid going iron mike on him. 
Wow.
How do you know this? Did he tell you? Do you know him? Oh, wait, you dont.

Never go to jury duty please.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 27, 2012, 07:01:01 AM
like i said before all these zimmerman backers would be singing a different tune if it was their son walking home with a bag of skittles and an ice tea and was shot dead because he fit a description,you know, black
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 27, 2012, 07:44:12 AM
Wow.
How do you know this? Did he tell you? Do you know him? Oh, wait, you dont.

Never go to jury duty please.

we all have our theories about what happened that night.

Some getbiggers believe zimmerman.  Some believe the prosecutor. 

My belief is based upon his long history of calling police of next-to-nothing, his anger he showed on that tape about burglars, the fact he believed trayon was 'one of them' despite zero evidence of that. 

he knew the law.  "These assholes always get away" - Zimmerman didn't let that happen this time.  He was pro-active, following when the 911 man advised against it, and common sense dictates you don't create a confrontation when you don't have to.

SO my belief is that he was tired of these assholes getting away, and knew the police would be there any second.  He wanted to be standing there, a victim of an assault, with them witnessing it so he could file charges and maybe find his bike when they searched the kid's house.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 27, 2012, 07:56:36 AM
like i said before all these zimmerman backers would be singing a different tune if it was their son walking home with a bag of skittles and an ice tea and was shot dead because he fit a description,you know, black
LMFAO by "zimmerman backers" do you mean the ppl who want to let the court do its job and decide his guilt/innocence on the facts?

typical liberal tactic, take a view point you dont like and assign unfounded attributes to the person and stance.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 27, 2012, 08:00:56 AM
LMFAO by "zimmerman backers" do you mean the ppl who want to let the court do its job and decide his guilt/innocence on the facts?

typical liberal tactic, take a view point you dont like and assign unfounded attributes to the person and stance.

LOL @ suddenly all the "zimmerman winning" people convert to "let's just let the trial play out and see what happens..."

hahahahaha certain getbiggers have been calling trayvon names and saying zimmerman was innocent.  They actually fell for his bullshit.  Sad, just plain sad how gullible some can be.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 27, 2012, 08:17:27 AM
LMFAO by "zimmerman backers" do you mean the ppl who want to let the court do its job and decide his guilt/innocence on the facts?

typical liberal tactic, take a view point you dont like and assign unfounded attributes to the person and stance.

typ. cover up he's guilty because he's black  :o
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 27, 2012, 08:18:41 AM
LOL @ suddenly all the "zimmerman winning" people convert to "let's just let the trial play out and see what happens..."

hahahahaha certain getbiggers have been calling trayvon names and saying zimmerman was innocent.  They actually fell for his bullshit.  Sad, just plain sad how gullible some can be.


oh did you notice that  :D
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 27, 2012, 08:31:22 AM
LOL @ suddenly all the "zimmerman winning" people convert to "let's just let the trial play out and see what happens..."

hahahahaha certain getbiggers have been calling trayvon names and saying zimmerman was innocent.  They actually fell for his bullshit.  Sad, just plain sad how gullible some can be.
pull a quote where I said "winning" or anything of the sort

pull a quote where I called trayvon a name...

quit trolling you moronic fucktard, you already look like a jack ass as it is.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 27, 2012, 08:32:15 AM
typ. cover up he's guilty because he's black  :o
hahaha, you and garebear really fall in line with the liberal mantra "anybody with an opposing view is a racist, homophobic, bible clinging, hate monger" quite well
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 27, 2012, 08:39:22 AM
hahaha, you and garebear really fall in line with the liberal mantra "anybody with an opposing view is a racist, homophobic, bible clinging, hate monger" quite well

your post do that for you just fine   mr. closet racist  :D
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 27, 2012, 08:47:40 AM
your post do that for you just fine   mr. closet racist  :D
if that were the case you wouldnt have used the word "closet" ;)
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Option D on May 27, 2012, 08:51:47 AM



How so?  The only split I see on the board on people like you and Mal who have convicted him already...and those of us saying let the system work.  ::)

BTW, even if he is convicted, 9/10ths of your bullshit...will still be bullshit.   ;)

I swear people on this board read what they want to read.. not matter what the shit really says.

I haven't commented on guilt on innocence. As ive fucking stated from day Fucking 1, my only issue with this is, if someone is shot and they only have their story to go on.. usually there is an arrest and investigation. There was no arrest. God damn. are you fucking retarded.  I intentionally NEVER spoke of guilt or innocence Re:  this case. And if you see that i have, pull the muthafuckin quote
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 27, 2012, 08:53:57 AM
Yes. People who you disagree with are obviously engaged in homosexual behavior.

Way to elevate the debate, stud.



Calm down Gloria.  240 got the point.  Damn, you are on the rag 24/7... must be all that great living in China.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 27, 2012, 08:56:24 AM
it's beacuse zimmerman was so quick to use the 'stand your ground' defense - a useful part of FL law which is very much in danger now, thanks to the national campaign by bloomberg which will piggyback this trial.

Gun rights will be eroded.  Anyone who shoots someone legally is going to have more trouble convincing a jury.  ZImmerman is a pig who coudln't wait for police.  He had to go try to be a hero and WORST of all - he lied about thigns to police regarding a self-defense shoot.  This means anytime me or 33 or anyone else legally shoots someone, we have to face the stigma he creates.  it's undeniable.  Jurors punish injustice in future cases.  and prosecutors and police will be VERY quick  to indict (just in case) to cover their asses thanks to sanford PD's shitty handling of things.

So that's why I hate zimmerman.  Trayvon belonged in jail for drug crimes, I'm not bedwetter there.  I'm mad zimmerman decided to create a violent situation instead of letting police do their job.  He wasn't in danger - in fact, trayvon was running from him. HE created the dangerous situation by chasing down a scared kid in the dark with a gun.   

I get your point on gun ownership rights, but that boat has already sailed.  this case, because so many people are pitching a hissy-fit over it, has already done the damage.  It won't matter if Zimmerman is convicted or not, the parrot-heads like bloomberg are going to use it for political gain either way.  Doesn't matter what happens in the trial in regards to gun ownership rights.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 27, 2012, 08:57:39 AM
if that were the case you wouldnt have used the word "closet" ;)

in your mind your closet racist  ;)
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 27, 2012, 09:04:23 AM
I get your point on gun ownership rights, but that boat has already sailed.  this case, because so many people are pitching a hissy-fit over it, has already done the damage.  It won't matter if Zimmerman is convicted or not, the parrot-heads like bloomberg are going to use it for political gain either way.  Doesn't matter what happens in the trial in regards to gun ownership rights.

zimmerman is going to use 'stand your ground' even though the author of the stand-your-ground bill admits it would not apply there.

15 minutes after zimm was indicted, bloomberg held a tv conference with his own national campaign to end 'stand your ground' laws.

Direct result. And it'll continue as the trial does.  Every damn time zimmerman makes a move, you'll have msnbc cheerleading bloomberg and his campaign.


All cause he's a busybody dipshit who can't control his fcking emotions.


Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 27, 2012, 09:05:06 AM
in your mind your closet racist  ;)
LOL did that make sense to you when you typed it?
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 27, 2012, 09:12:26 AM
LOL did that make sense to you when you typed it?

40 years ago the racist used white hoods and sheets to hide, now they use the internet  ;D
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 27, 2012, 09:26:00 AM
40 years ago the racist used white hoods and sheets to hide, now they use the internet  ;D
LOL, if you repeat a lie enough times...
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 27, 2012, 09:42:46 AM
LOL, if you repeat a lie enough times...

lol i'm not the one arguing about a picture of trayvon,and posting one with the gold teeth to try to stereotype him
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 27, 2012, 09:44:41 AM
I dont like this being about race at all.

Did zimm use the appearance of trayvon to determine he was one of those asshole who stole his bike?  Yes, his words say he did.

But his actions are all that matter - and he walked 2 blocks to catch someone who did run away from him.   he wanted a confrontation.  he was an aggressive personality.  He always got involved and put his hands on people when he felt like it - YOU CANT DO THAT.  he shoved a cop.  He took that domestic charge.  

Dude is a violent prick - period.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Dos Equis on May 27, 2012, 10:45:51 AM
Yes. People who you disagree with are obviously engaged in homosexual behavior.

Way to elevate the debate, stud.



LOL!  Oh no you didn't.  lol . . . . I'll be using this.   :)
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: garebear on May 27, 2012, 06:03:39 PM
Calm down Gloria.  240 got the point.  Damn, you are on the rag 24/7... must be all that great living in China.
I'm surprised you could pause your blow job campaign to stop and post.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 27, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
I'm surprised you could pause your blow job campaign to stop and post.

Your mom said her mouth was getting tired, stud.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: garebear on May 27, 2012, 10:17:22 PM
Your mom said her mouth was getting tired, stud.
Thanks for helping her out.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 27, 2012, 10:46:44 PM
lol i'm not the one arguing about a picture of trayvon,and posting one with the gold teeth to try to stereotype him
LMFAO the only thing I was arguing is whether or not that was a picture of trayvon...AND AS OF NOW IT SEEMS IT IS.

If that some how makes me racist, then I say you sir are the racist not me.

I presented facts, you projected your feelings. ;)

LOL since when is presenting facts considered racist? only in liberal speak...
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 28, 2012, 03:25:50 AM
"I never defended Zimmerman or attacked Trayvon - All I ever said was let's let the trial process work itself out"

HAHAHAHAH

People calling zimm a her, trayvon a thug, saying it's all a conspiracy from the republican prosecutor to quell race wars...

Then it turns out zimm is nothing more than a common liar, plain and simple.  Rats abandoning the USS ZImmerman.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 28, 2012, 07:06:05 AM
LMFAO the only thing I was arguing is whether or not that was a picture of trayvon...AND AS OF NOW IT SEEMS IT IS.

If that some how makes me racist, then I say you sir are the racist not me.

I presented facts, you projected your feelings. ;)

LOL since when is presenting facts considered racist? only in liberal speak...


yeah oookk ,the picture with the gold grill ,and you post the picture in the same post,that picture only.so why do you have to post gold grill, to stereotype him as a getto thug.   
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Skip8282 on May 28, 2012, 08:01:52 AM
I swear people on this board read what they want to read.. not matter what the shit really says.

I haven't commented on guilt on innocence. As ive fucking stated from day Fucking 1, my only issue with this is, if someone is shot and they only have their story to go on.. usually there is an arrest and investigation. There was no arrest. God damn. are you fucking retarded.  I intentionally NEVER spoke of guilt or innocence Re:  this case. And if you see that i have, pull the muthafuckin quote


::)

The only time you start trotting out this arrest shit is when you're called on about the facts.

How many posts have you sarcastically made about how TM was just buying some candy and "deserved" to be shot?
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 28, 2012, 08:04:25 AM
"I never defended Zimmerman or attacked Trayvon - All I ever said was let's let the trial process work itself out"

HAHAHAHAH

People calling zimm a her, trayvon a thug, saying it's all a conspiracy from the republican prosecutor to quell race wars...

Then it turns out zimm is nothing more than a common liar, plain and simple.  Rats abandoning the USS ZImmerman.
LOL what the fuck are you talking about?

hahahahaah
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 28, 2012, 08:05:53 AM

yeah oookk ,the picture with the gold grill ,and you post the picture in the same post,that picture only.so why do you have to post gold grill, to stereotype him as a getto thug.   
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
LMFAO THATS AN ACTUAL PICTURE OF HIM....

why are ppl running around posting pictures from his childhood?

I posted the picture b/c IT IS REAL!!!

thats the reality of the situation...take from it what you want but the picture is real...
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 28, 2012, 08:34:47 AM
LMFAO THATS AN ACTUAL PICTURE OF HIM....

why are ppl running around posting pictures from his childhood?

I posted the picture b/c IT IS REAL!!!

thats the reality of the situation...take from it what you want but the picture is real...

 ::) i didn't say it wasn't a picture of him,read again what i wrote and you will see where i'm going,by the way i think you know what i was gettting at, you are just trying to change the subject
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 28, 2012, 08:44:09 AM
::) i didn't say it wasn't a picture of him,read again what i wrote and you will see where i'm going,by the way i think you know what i was gettting at, you are just trying to change the subject
LOL does this shit make sense in your head?

only in the mind of a liberal are facts racist...
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Shockwave on May 28, 2012, 08:48:08 AM
How in the fuck are people coming to the conclusion Trayvon wasnt a POS?
Looks like they probably both were.
Which really has no bearing on the case.
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 28, 2012, 09:00:14 AM
LOL does this shit make sense in your head?

only in the mind of a liberal are facts racist...


 :D :D :D you can tell when tonymctones is hiding something because he changes the subject  :D

  ;D
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: tonymctones on May 28, 2012, 09:02:57 AM

 :D :D :D you can tell when tonymctones is hiding something because he changes the subject  :D

   ;D
LMFAO you are certifiably insane
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: 240 is Back on May 28, 2012, 09:10:48 AM
How in the fuck are people coming to the conclusion Trayvon wasnt a POS?
Looks like they probably both were.
Which really has no bearing on the case.

agreed 100%%%
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Skip8282 on May 28, 2012, 09:19:31 AM

 :D :D :D you can tell when tonymctones is hiding something because he changes the subject  :D

   ;D





Oh...how original.  Calling someone who disagrees a racist.

Haven't read that since at least...oh...7 posts or so ago...  ::)
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 28, 2012, 09:32:21 AM




Oh...how original.  Calling someone who disagrees a racist.

Haven't read that since at least...oh...7 posts or so ago...  ::)

going by what he posts ,tonymctones boyfriend [Skippy8282] :D
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Skip8282 on May 28, 2012, 09:39:12 AM
going by what he posts ,tonymctones boyfriend [Skippy8282] :D



Thought I was 33's boyfriend?

WTF?
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 28, 2012, 09:40:25 AM


Thought I was 33's boyfriend?

WTF?

why you two timing bitch  ;D
Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: Skip8282 on May 28, 2012, 09:51:56 AM

Title: Re: Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements
Post by: blacken700 on May 28, 2012, 09:58:06 AM




WTF?  :D :D