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13 men have won the most coveted prize in bodybuilding. Their names will always be synonymous with their victories
If all 13 men had to step on stage in their best ever shape (e.g, Ronnie '98, Dorian '93, Haney '89), who'd be the greatest of them all? Forget favoritism, achievements outside bodybuilding, etc.
Who, in your opinion, rules them all? No need to enter into lengthy debates. I only want the name from you.
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Dexter 'the blade' Jackson
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when phil's career is said and done, that bitch, chepanzee, will be posting his name non-stop.
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Today's judging standard? Probably Ronnie circa 98'.
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Of the 13, Ronnie was the most impressive. I would still rather look like Arnold though.
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In my opinion I'd say the Dorian would probably JUST edge out Ronnie, who'll come second. Third place I'm undecided.
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In my opinion I'd say the Dorian would probably JUST edge out Ronnie, who'll come second. Third place I'm undecided.
I think if the original juding standard was adhered too, Dorian would probably come out on top.
Todays judging criteria, Id go with Ronnie 98.
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Ronnie
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phil
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In my opinion I'd say the Dorian would probably JUST edge out Ronnie, who'll come second. Third place I'm undecided.
How can you say this when dorians biggest and best was never as good as ronnies?
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What kinda question is this ?
::)
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I don't think 93 was Dorian's best so I think a 98 Ronnie would edge him out but I think the 96 Garnd prix dorian will smoke any competitor that has ever jumped on stage period, he was full beyond belief with the deepest lines ever, especially his back, dry as fuck, this would destroy a 98 Ronnie. Someone post the video please
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Ronnie is the most impressive by the "how did a live human manage to look like that??" criterion.
Zane is the physique I'd most like to have.
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Based on today's judging standards and taking into consideration their best ever condition I reckon it would be something like this:
1. Dorian Yates
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Phil Heath
4. Jay Cutler
5. Dexter Jackson
6. Lee Haney
7. Samir Bannout
8. Arnold Schwarzenneger
9. Sergio Oliva
10. Frank Zane
11. Franco Columbu
12. Chris Dickerson
13. Larry Scott
Pretty chronological really as the winners tend to get better as the years go on.
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Based on today's judging standards and taking into consideration their best ever condition I reckon it would be something like this:
1. Dorian Yates
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Phil Heath
4. Jay Cutler
5. Dexter Jackson
6. Lee Haney
7. Samir Bannout
8. Arnold Schwarzenneger
9. Sergio Oliva
10. Frank Zane
11. Franco Columbu
12. Chris Dickerson
13. Larry Scott
Pretty chronological really as the winners tend to get better as the years go on.
This list isn't gonna start any fights. ;D
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I think it's pretty accurate in light of the "today's judging standards" qualifier. The earlier guys would get massacred today for "missing half their body" ::)
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Based on today's judging standards and taking into consideration their best ever condition I reckon it would be something like this:
1. Dorian Yates
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Phil Heath
4. Jay Cutler
5. Dexter Jackson
6. Lee Haney
7. Samir Bannout
8. Arnold Schwarzenneger
9. Sergio Oliva
10. Frank Zane
11. Franco Columbu
12. Chris Dickerson
13. Larry Scott
Pretty chronological really as the winners tend to get better as the years go on.
The list is pretty good except you can't possibly think the 2011 Heath beats 09 Cutler, do you? other then that, spot on.
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Ronnie 98. But id rather look like Haney.
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Ron, an ab(d)omination, but looked superhuman.
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Based on today's judging standards and taking into consideration their best ever condition I reckon it would be something like this:
1. Dorian Yates
2. Ronnie Coleman
3. Phil Heath
4. Jay Cutler
5. Dexter Jackson
6. Lee Haney
7. Samir Bannout
8. Arnold Schwarzenneger
9. Sergio Oliva
10. Frank Zane
11. Franco Columbu
12. Chris Dickerson
13. Larry Scott
Pretty chronological really as the winners tend to get better as the years go on.
Get the fuck out. Youre off your rocker if yout think Yates best beats Colemans best..hahahahbaaha oh brother.
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(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/3/2/329da-Ronnie_Coleman_63.jpg)
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Get the fuck out. Youre off your rocker if yout think Yates best beats Colemans best..hahahahbaaha oh brother.
how can he be of his rocker when 4 others on this thread alone believe Dorian beats Ronnie. Correct me if I am wrong doesn't "off your rocker" mean you are in the 1% end of unstabled brain, so there are 4 people in the first page of this thread that are "off there rocker" obviously not. I think the average bodybuilding fan thinks Dorian over Ronnie more the 50%, it's a close 50 50 but Dorian still tallies up more votes.
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how can he be of his rocker when 4 others on this thread alone believe Dorian beats Ronnie. Correct me if I am wrong doesn't "off your rocker" mean you are in the 1% end of unstabled brain, so there are 4 people in the first page of this thread that are "off there rocker" obviously not. I think the average bodybuilding fan thinks Dorian over Ronnie more the 50%, it's a close 50 50 but Dorian still tallies up more votes.
Its changed quite a bit since Ronnie isnt on the throne anymore.
He was the "it" guy on the boards for quite a while.
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The list is pretty good except you can't possibly think the 2011 Heath beats 09 Cutler, do you? other then that, spot on.
Yes, that was the hardest one to call - it's basically a coin flip.
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Haney.
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This list isn't gonna start any fights. ;D
Well, it's been a while since I started a good fight on here. ;D
Oh yes, and another list I haven't made. :D
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Ronnie. Hands down.
Next question, please.
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BIG Downs Hill
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Arnold or Haney.
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:)
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Taken into account the era (1960s-early 70s) and what he actually had to work with Sergio...........the best of them all IMO in any Particular year as MR O.........Yates 1993 or Coleman 1998 both were from another Dimension those years.
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The greatest mr O ever, will be crowned this year, it will be a 1 year reign, as he will have to retire from the career ending injury he will suffer holding the sandow overhead, tearing his delt in 3 places, and horrific lat and tricep injuries.
But he will forever be remembered as the greatest
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Get the fuck out. Youre off your rocker if yout think Yates best beats Colemans best..hahahahbaaha oh brother.
Agreed. Coleman is so superior it isn't even funny. Come on now, even Heath beats Yates!
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Agreed. Coleman is so superior it isn't even funny. Come on now, even Heath beats Yates!
GTFO
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GTFO
x2.
Heath beating Yates?
Epic. Lulz.
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GTFO
What's the issue, boy?
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x2.
Heath beating Yates?
Epic. Lulz.
Well, Heath is much bigger and better. ;D
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x2.
Heath beating Yates?
Epic. Lulz.
X3,LOL
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Taken into account the era (1960s-early 70s) and what he actually had to work with Sergio...........the best of them all IMO in any Particular year as MR O.........Yates 1993 or Coleman 1998 both were from another Dimension those years.
Fuck those 3 pics are fucken crazy, Yates looks like there isn't even 1 drop of water left in him
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What's the issue, boy?
Heath isn't even close, OAP. I'm not saying he isn't a great bodybuilder though.
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Zane
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Ronnie 98!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=426952.0;attach=471025)
Lolololol!!!
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(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/3/2/329da-Ronnie_Coleman_63.jpg)
Isn't that Ronnie from the 2001 Arnold Classic?
That Ronnie looks better than any version of Ronnie at the Olympia. He's at his optimal (not maximum) size; he's shredded. There are no torn muscles or nerve damage. The proportions are right on the money.
THAT Ronnie is THE MAN!!
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Well, Heath is much bigger and better. ;D
Bigger? No!
Better? It depends.
Heath of today vs. Yates ('92 or '93)....THAT would be interesting. I'd give Yates '92 the nod. Yates '93...bigger but not quite as proportioned and horrible acne-loaded skin. I'll give the edge to Heath.
Heath today vs. Yates (from '94 onward)....I'll take Heath all day long.
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Ronnie in 2003. I don't see anybody ever matching that.... ever
Ronnie in 1998.
Dorian in 95.
(the the guys who didnt win... flex in 99, levrone in 95, and vic in 07)
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Ronnie in 2003. I don't see anybody ever matching that.... ever
Ronnie in 1998.
Dorian in 95.
(the the guys who didnt win... flex in 99, levrone in 95, and vic in 07)
Actually, I'd go with Ronnie (2001 ASC) over Ronnie (2003 Olympia). Again, Ronnie was at his optimum size, not his maximum size. With his shape and proportions, coupled with that level of definition, 2001 Ronnie ASC beats 2003 Ronnie hands down.
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STFU and go back to your basement
flex wheeler at that arnold classic show where he put nasser in his place was the best overal body ever on any stage.
dorian yates didnt even have all bodyparts, whats next, an amputee can enter the mr o?
larry scott was fat by todays standards.
schwarzenegger had no legs by todays standards and came in soft at times.today, some women have bigger legs.
franco columbu?liliputane with wide hips.
chris dickfaceson?seriously?im clean now and got bigger legs than he had, also, what were his arms?17inches?
sergio olivia is ok.
samir banut same, is ok.
lee honey, "monster arms" ::)
dexter jackson, close to perfect physique.deserved more titles.
jay cutler?shouldnt have been given a single mr o title imo.he has the structure of a pregnant cow.
phil heat , not the best chest, weird abs structure, but i think he deserves his title.
ronnie coleman deserved his titles overall.
now if kai green had a small waist, the guy would be unstoppable, but that will not happen, his freaking head grew from the drugs, there is no going back.
everyone with a belly should be disqualified by default :-X
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ronnie came with a bitch's tit in 98 ???
fixed...no plural.
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Oliva rapes Ronnie and Dorian in every way possible.
It's not even debatable.
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If you think about it, the first mr olympia to bring in a muscular, proportionate, ripped and dry physique was bannout in 83. Up till then, there hadn't been a total package like that. He set a new standard. That year the transition between the old days and a new standard began.
Arnold 74 was great, in his own league
Zane 79 was ultra, never-before-seen ripped, 1980 if not for injury he was bigger and with same conditioning wouldve been unbelievable. As it turned out, he looked like shit compared to his own standard. Shouldve pulled out.
That 83 bannout set the standard for the 80s and beyond conditioning wise, until yates
Yates 93 showed mass and rock hard graininess, so much dry muscle on a frame
Ronnie 98 is beyond words
Since then, nothing to see.
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Oliva rapes Ronnie and Dorian in every way possible.
It's not even debatable.
8) you sir are correct .
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Obviously haney should get a mention, but so many hate on haney
8 times. Some say it was a weak era, I don't know...
Guy had a blend of mass, a back that was wide and thick, extremely thick pecs, a torso that was massive, poor arm genes, combined with the massive torso, looked even smaller. Legs were enough for the day
In a pre slin era, he brought 250 dry lbs ontage(except 1990), with a small waist, and he could do a vaccuum pose...
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Oliva rapes Ronnie and Dorian in every way possible.
It's not even debatable.
oliva got raped by weider few times
Guy was blessed with amazing genes, made for bbing
Oliva in the 90s/00s, wouldve looked perhaps freakier than ronnie
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I don't give a shit who as long as it's not Yates. That fucker is the worst looking Mr. O ever, and possibly one of the worst looking professional bodybuilders ever.
The fucker who started the pregnant gut era. ;D
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ARNOLD IS NUMERO UNO
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I don't give a shit who as long as it's not Yates. That fucker is the worst looking Mr. O ever, and possibly one of the worst looking professional bodybuilders ever.
The fucker who started the pregnant gut era. ;D
Really? Interesting you should think that. Do you think the most pleasing physique should win, or the physique that's based on defined criteria? Or just the physique that YOU like?
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MR. LEE HANEY!
Arnold and Samir are tied for a close second!
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franco in 81, his wheels where awesome
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no contest ronnie coleman... no one will surpass him either.... judging by the bbers we have now
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/lucas78/ronnie.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PaqESlJV3IQ/TsKs5u5gdmI/AAAAAAAAGPU/fFmTrzsNb7s/s1600/Ronnie_Coleman.jpg)
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Really? Interesting you should think that. Do you think the most pleasing physique should win, or the physique that's based on defined criteria? Or just the physique that YOU like?
Evidently so 8)
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no contest ronnie coleman... no one will surpass him either.... judging by the bbers we have now
Structure sucks donkey balls.
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youre entitled to your opinion....
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i think ronnie in 2003 was better than dorian yates . in 1995 . dorain only better point was calves ..
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Is there ANY reason to base this on todays judging standards.
Is a ferrari just vecause it was built 47 years ago objectively a lesser car to todays supercars?
Technology and sports progress together so it is highly unfair to the older generation to compare them to todays.
I believe that anyone here will say that Arnold and Ronnie had the beste genetics for bodybuilding ever. In my mind there is no doubt this at all.
I think Yates and Haney had the best genetics of all Olympians.
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i agree about sergio, if a 25 year old sergio was competing in the 90,s he would have smoked everyone, the guy had no weaknesses. as long as he didnt go the huge gut route he wouldve beat those guys
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Dexter 'the blade' Jackson
LOL
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in fact they all have weaknesses and strong points sergio was oftenn too smooth lacked bicep peak . and was no that great a poser . great genetics yes but not always used to the best . i wonder i we can even judge and compare physiques . its so complicated .
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franco in 81, his wheels where awesome
Mr Olympia from the waist up :-X
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Mr Olympia from the waist up :-X
his right nipple is squirting milk all over danny,s foot :o
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Ronnie was a monster and destroyed the opponents but he beat them by size and density, but his physique didn't flow, his structure was shit, his alien abs and no calves.
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a bit hard as opinion . but not false . . .
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Arnold... i wouldnt want any of the other olympian's body... maybe dexter, but Arnold numero uno
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Hard to disagree with Ronnie of '98. He had it all that year.
Personally, I would rather have Arnold's 1974 Mr O physique.
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Hard to disagree with Ronnie of '98. He had it all that year.
Personally, I would rather have Arnold's 1974 Mr O physique.
I would rather have arnolds current physique over Ronnies.
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we have to accept or dont accept that bodybuilders now are bigger and freakier than 25 years ago. thats what is callled progress . in shot put they push their ball farther now than 25 years ago or should .
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Arnold... i wouldnt want any of the other olympian's body... maybe dexter, but Arnold numero uno
Outed.
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how can he be of his rocker when 4 others on this thread alone believe Dorian beats Ronnie. Correct me if I am wrong doesn't "off your rocker" mean you are in the 1% end of unstabled brain, so there are 4 people in the first page of this thread that are "off there rocker" obviously not. I think the average bodybuilding fan thinks Dorian over Ronnie more the 50%, it's a close 50 50 but Dorian still tallies up more votes.
Come on man, I think you're a good poster, but you gotta admit max. maybe 10% of bb fans think Dorian's best > Ronnie's best.
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Come on man, I think you're a good poster, but you gotta admit max. maybe 10% of bb fans think Dorian's best > Ronnie's best.
You are out of your mind big time, no way in hell that's right, just look at all the posters here alone, I say it's pretty even 50-50, go back and count on the big Dorian vs Ronnie thread, and yes I decided to count 20 pages worth 1 day and it was pretty even. Ronnie vs Dorian is the biggest threads and the most desbuted and the most poplular on every bodybuiding forum on the planet, it is literally the most asked question of all time, "who would win".... no subject in bodybuilding even come close, every single day in the history of getbig a 'Dorian vs Ronnie' thread is on the front page, every day, you think it would be like this if it was one side, obviously not, sorry bro that is the most rideculous statement I have ever read in the history of mankind, 100 poster ,... 50 will go with Yate and 50 with Ronnie, garauntee, if I am off, not by much,.. 8) Your a good poster too ;) , but where have you been lately, seems you been posting less
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You are out of your mind big time, no way in hell that's right, just look at all the posters here alone, I say it's pretty even 50-50, go back and count on the big Dorian vs Ronnie thread, and yes I decided to count 20 pages worth 1 day and it was pretty even. Ronnie vs Dorian is the biggest threads and the most desbuted and the most poplular on every bodybuiding forum on the planet, it is literally the most asked question of all time, "who would win".... no subject in bodybuilding even come close, every single day in the history of getbig a 'Dorian vs Ronnie' thread is on the front page, every day, you think it would be like this if it was one side, obviously not, sorry bro that is the most rideculous statement I have ever read in the history of mankind, 100 poster ,... 50 will go with Yate and 50 with Ronnie, garauntee, if I am off, not by much,.. 8) Your a good poster too ;) , but where have you been lately, seems you been posting less
Yeah have been posting less, I could start some Nasser threads to change that ;D
Difference of opinion on the topic at hand I guess. I know on these forums it might be 50/50 among the people who take part in the Dorian vs. Ronnie debate however I think that's largely because Dorian is now considered from a "classic era" so has a die-hard fan group that are willing to debate and argue the issue whereas most posters believe Ronnie is better but aren't as hardcore enough fans to support him as much by debating over years and years the same issue. There are a few (hulkster, neo, etc.) but I would bet anything that the silent majority here would pick Ronnie over Dorian.
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bigbobs!! its been a while ;D
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Ronnie was the greatest if I was an Olympia Judge.
Zane if you are asking MY opinion. That is what a bodybuilder should look like.
Arnold had the greatest genetics ever.
Ron Jeremy greatest male porn star ever.