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http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/01/us/afghan-soldier-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
In amended charges presented Friday, U.S. military authorities accused Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales of illicit steroid and alcohol use in addition to 16 counts of premeditated murder for allegedly gunning down villagers in Afghanistan earlier this year. Bales' lawyer, John Henry Browne, responded to the changes by saying he is "so relieved" that military prosecutors "came out publicly with the steroid use."
"Steroid use is going to be an issue in this case, especially where Sgt. Bales got steroids and how he got steroids," Browne told CNN., especially where Sgt. Bales got steroids and how he got steroids," Browne told CNN. The U.S. military said that, in March, Bales left his outpost in Afghanistan in the middle of the night and single-handedly attacked two villages. The incident further riled relations between Washington and Kabul, intensifying the debate about whether to pull American troops ahead of their planned 2014 withdrawal.
Bales was taken into military custody soon thereafter, and subsequently charged with 17 counts of murder and six counts of assault and attempted murder. He is being held in a military prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. The new slate of charges detailed Friday by the U.S. Army -- which are defined as violations of the Uniform Military Code of Justice -- include 16 counts of premeditated murder, one of several changes that the military said were done "to conform to developments in the ongoing investigation."
Bales still faces six counts of attempted murder, as well as seven counts of assault -- one more than previously.
In addition, the Army sergeant is charged with two counts "of wrongfully possessing and using a Schedule III controlled substance" -- which the military, in its release from Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state where Bales is based, defines as steroids.
He is also charged with a single count of "wrongfully consuming alcohol while deployed." Browne, Bales' lawyer, called that charge "just a red herring. You don't got out and commit the type of crimes (murders) he is accused of because you took two sips of alcohol off of someone else's Gatorade bottle."
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This guy went on an out of control roid rage, it is true, roid rage is real, this will prove it and make steroids even more illegal.
Army: Soldier accused of killing Afghan villagers charged with steroid use
In amended charges presented Friday, U.S. military authorities accused Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales of illicit steroid and alcohol use in addition to 16 counts of premeditated murder for allegedly gunning down villagers in Afghanistan earlier this year.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/01/us/afghan-soldier-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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I would say it was the alcohol and other factors that lead to the spree. That being said, they should've let him be tried over there. I'm all for spreading some democracy, but that was a little much. Either that, or don't let anyone find out about it.
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I remember reading that the original nazis too experimented with giving their soldiers steroids in some form to make them more aggressive.
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nevermind the face he was stuck in the middle of the 120 f'n degree desert for months, showering with baby wipes, no toothbrush, eating MRE's with hot sauce on everything, all the while getting shot at everyday by dirty, stinkin afghani men and boys with shit stained fingers.
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steroids of peace
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That damn Primobolan!
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Sounds like a way to make him sound less crazy. Cant be him going nuts - gotta be something he was doing wrong.
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wrongfully consuming alcohol while deployed
what about the rightful consumption of alcohol during a deployment? ??? Is it somewhat legal/tactical?
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/01/us/afghan-soldier-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
In amended charges presented Friday, U.S. military authorities accused Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales of illicit steroid and alcohol use in addition to 16 counts of premeditated murder for allegedly gunning down villagers in Afghanistan earlier this year. Bales' lawyer, John Henry Browne, responded to the changes by saying he is "so relieved" that military prosecutors "came out publicly with the steroid use."
"Steroid use is going to be an issue in this case, especially where Sgt. Bales got steroids and how he got steroids," Browne told CNN., especially where Sgt. Bales got steroids and how he got steroids," Browne told CNN. The U.S. military said that, in March, Bales left his outpost in Afghanistan in the middle of the night and single-handedly attacked two villages. The incident further riled relations between Washington and Kabul, intensifying the debate about whether to pull American troops ahead of their planned 2014 withdrawal.
Bales was taken into military custody soon thereafter, and subsequently charged with 17 counts of murder and six counts of assault and attempted murder. He is being held in a military prison in Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. The new slate of charges detailed Friday by the U.S. Army -- which are defined as violations of the Uniform Military Code of Justice -- include 16 counts of premeditated murder, one of several changes that the military said were done "to conform to developments in the ongoing investigation."
Bales still faces six counts of attempted murder, as well as seven counts of assault -- one more than previously.
In addition, the Army sergeant is charged with two counts "of wrongfully possessing and using a Schedule III controlled substance" -- which the military, in its release from Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington state where Bales is based, defines as steroids.
He is also charged with a single count of "wrongfully consuming alcohol while deployed." Browne, Bales' lawyer, called that charge "just a red herring. You don't got out and commit the type of crimes (murders) he is accused of because you took two sips of alcohol off of someone else's Gatorade bottle."
That is so true, millions of violent crimes each year are committed in the US because of steroids, and how many because of alcohol? Under 10?
Have you EVER heard of anyone getting violent because of alcohol? Never.
But those fucking steroids, they will kill you right away or turn you into a madman serial mass murderer.
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I thought this thread was about me
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Steroids DEFINITELY played a HUGE part in the killings, normal US soldiers do not run around and kill people.
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I think it's safe to say that steroids are not the main culprit here, far from it, but on the other hand it's not totally implausible that they may enhance aggressive behavior in general.
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Steroids are their way out IMHO - an easy thing to put the blame on. That way - its looks less like a psychotic Soldier going off the deep end.
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Everybody wanna be on steroids but nobody wanna kill no household of women and children !
Americans do it though.
;D ;D
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Steroids DEFINITELY played a HUGE part in the killings, normal US soldiers do not run around and kill people.
Exactly
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Maybe the guy couldn't afford a politician's illusions, what with getting shot at every day. He didn't kill women or children, just men of military age. Stands to reason he saw them as a threat, so when he saw an opportunity for easy kills he took it.
It's a soldiers job to identify and kill the enemy. For all we know that's exactly what he did. More info needed.
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Hard not to think this is being presented as a scapegoat. Most military people here know what this is...
The truth is that when you deploy soldiers for 3 and 4 extended tours in shitholes like Afghanastan and surround them with backward tribal culture where militants dress as civilians trying to kill you, you're going to see people break. Not to mention, his best friend's legs were blown up by a bomb just before his night raid. Sure alcohol and steroids could play a small role in pushing him that last inch but that is, at best, the tip of the iceberg. We can't fight wars for 10+ years, send our men & women for multiple long deployments (12-18 months) and not expect things like this. And I love the military and our country, we have to accept that reality.