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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/mma/boxing/06/10/bradley.pacquiao.ap/index.html#?sct=hp_t2_a2&eref=sihp
LAS VEGAS (AP) -- Timothy Bradley promised to shock, though the biggest shock in his fight with Manny Pacquiao came from the judges' scorecards.
In a fight Pacquiao seemed to have in hand, two judges decided otherwise, giving Bradley a split decision Saturday night and ending the Filipino fighter's remarkable seven-year unbeaten run.
Promoter Bob Arum fumed, the crowd at the MGM Grand arena booed, and Pacquiao seemed stunned when the decision was announced. Arum said there would be a November rematch, though he blasted the way the decision went down.
"I've never been as ashamed of the sport of boxing as I am tonight," said Arum, who handles both fighters.
Bradley came on strong in the later rounds, winning five of the last six rounds on two scorecards and four on the third. He won 115-113 on two scorecards, while losing on the third by the same margin. The Associated Press had Pacquiao winning 117-111.
"I did my best," Pacquiao said. "I guess my best wasn't good enough."
Pacquiao tried to turn the fight into a brawl, using his power to hurt Bradley in the early rounds. But Bradley changed tactics in the middle rounds and used his boxing skills to win enough rounds to take the narrow decision for the welterweight title.
It ended a 15-fight winning streak by Pacquiao dating to 2005 that turned him into a boxing superstar and made him a national hero in the Philippines.
"I thought I won the fight," Bradley said. "I didn't think he was as good as everyone says he was. I didn't feel his power."
Ringside punching statistics showed Pacquiao landing 253 punches to 159 for Bradley, who vowed before the fight to take the 147-pound title from Pacquiao. The Compubox statistics showed Pacquiao landing more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds.
Bradley was so confident that he had oversized tickets printed up for a Nov. 10 rematch that will now likely happen.
Bradley seemed hurt in the fourth and fifth rounds, but Pacquiao had trouble landing big punches after that. Still, he seemed in control of the fight everywhere but on the judge's scorecards.
"Can you believe that? Unbelievable," Arum said. "I went over to Bradley before the decision and he said, `I tried hard but I couldn't beat the guy."'
Bradley said he hurt his ankle in the second round, and that trainer Joel Diaz said he could either quit or try to take the fight to Pacquiao.
"I got my second wind in the sixth round," Bradley said. "I worked the angles, sticking and moving."
Pacquiao said he studied Bradley on tape before the fight and wasn't surprised by anything he did. He said he thought he was in control of the fight and was shocked when the decision went against him.
"He never hurt me with his punches, most of them landed on my arms," Pacquiao said.
Pacquiao tried to brawl with Bradley and seemed to hurt him in both the fourth and fifth rounds. But Bradley started moving and counter punching, though he never seemed to land any shots that hurt Pacquiao.
Pacquiao had vowed to look impressive against Bradley after struggling in his last outing with Juan Manuel Marquez, a fight many thought he lost. And he did early, landing good long left hands while beating Bradley to the punch on most exchanges.
"He hurt me a couple of times with his left," Bradley said. "He's a beast."
Trainer Freddie Roach told Pacquiao after the 10th round that he had control of the fight, and urged him to fight hard the final two rounds.
"You have six minutes to go, son," Roach said. "It's your fight."
But it wasn't Pacquiao's fight, with Bradley getting credit for winning some of the close middle and later rounds. After the 11th round Bradley went back to his corner and trainer Joel Diaz told him he needed to win the final round.
"I listened to my corner," Bradley said. "I got to give him a rematch now."
Arum said there will be one on Nov. 10, though he thought Pacquiao won easily, as did most writers at ringside.
"I'll make a lot of money off the rematch, but this was outrageous," Arum said.
It was the biggest fight of Bradley's career and it came with a minimum $5 million payday. The rematch will be even richer, though Pacquiao's loss could damage any plans for a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Mayweather did not see the fight because he is serving a sentence on a domestic abuse charge at a jail a few miles from the MGM Grand.
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said Arum, who handles both fighters
I get the feeling that this was set up from the get go - so that he could build up a huge rematch and make fuck tons of money.
If I was Pac, Id drop this piece of shit now.
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Luckily I didn't watch this fight. Boxing is such a fucking joke when it comes to the corruption I wonder why it still has fans.
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said Arum, who handles both fighters
I get the feeling that this was set up from the get go - so that he could build up a huge rematch and make fuck tons of money.
If I was Pac, Id drop this piece of shit now.
yep. Pac looked calm afterwards.
maybe there is a price where a guy will take a loss - cause he's just making so much on it.
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yep. Pac looked calm afterwards.
maybe there is a price where a guy will take a loss - cause he's just making so much on it.
What's your price?
What if you were on the other side of the fix in your previous fight?
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said Arum, who handles both fighters
I get the feeling that this was set up from the get go - so that he could build up a huge rematch and make fuck tons of money.
If I was Pac, Id drop this piece of shit now.
Absolutely.
The fact that so many boxing fans and commentators alike find this result to be so outrageous is because they haven't considered that maybe things like this happen in boxing more times than none especially when any decision is left up to the judges and when both parties involved are co-promoted and could benefit from a possible re-match.
Before anything else, boxing is a big business and I think Manny understands and respects this.
A loss means very little to a fighter when he goes home with a huge purse and the promise of possibly making twice as much in future rematches.
In terms of legacy, who doesn't love a fighter that has it all, then loses it all, to then only come back and regain the title in a glorious manner that solidifies their place as a true champion?
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How many times did Bradley contradict himself? First Pac's power didn't hurt him, but then describes Pac as a beast.....etc, etc..... boxing is done.
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This is what happens in any sport when you leave it to the judges/ump. My highschool soccer coach used to say, "you take the ref out of the game by putting the ball in the back of the net."
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This is what happens in any sport when you leave it to the judges/ump. My highschool soccer coach used to say, "you take the ref out of the game by putting the ball in the back of the net."
What if the ref waives off the goal everytime?
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What if the ref waives off the goal everytime?
Well he is talking about soccer, so the coaches were probably more interested in waiving off their underwear. ;D
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Absolutely.
The fact that so many boxing fans and commentators alike find this result to be so outrageous is because they haven't considered that maybe things like this happen in boxing more times than none especially when any decision is left up to the judges and when both parties involved are co-promoted and could benefit from a possible re-match.
Before anything else, boxing is a big business and I think Manny understands and respects this.
A loss means very little to a fighter when he goes home with a huge purse and the promise of possibly making twice as much in future rematches.
In terms of legacy, who doesn't love a fighter that has it all, then loses it all, to then only come back and regain the title in a glorious manner that solidifies their place as a true champion?
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The same judges said that you got owned by Suckmanmuscles ,I hope this helps.
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The same judges said that you got owned by Suckmanmuscles ,I hope this helps.
Speaking of outrageous decisions, when is Flouyd going to cut the bullshit and give us a super fight with Manny?
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Speaking of outrageous decisions, when is Flouyd going to cut the bullshit and give us a super fight with Manny?
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After he gets out of jail ???
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After he gets out of jail ???
He is just away on a business trip. An upstanding citizen like Floyd would never be caught in a jail.
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Any links so I can watch the fight?
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Speaking of outrageous decisions, when is Flouyd going to cut the bullshit and give us a super fight with Manny?
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I think Floyd would beat Pacquiao , Floyd vs Martinez would be a better fight .
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I think Floyd would beat Pacquiao , Floyd vs Martinez would be a better fight .
That's a better match up, but Floyd will take Manny, since he is starting slip, just based on the Marquez and Bradley fights.
As far as Bradley and Manny, I still didn't see a 10/2 fight like people are saying, based on stats.
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That's a better match up, but Floyd will take Manny, since he is starting slip, just based on the Marquez and Bradley fights.
As far as Bradley and Manny, I still didn't see a 10/2 fight like people are saying, based on stats.
how did he slip with bradley...
he won the fucking fight outright
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I agree with you 240, Cormier would try to have sex with Pacquiao.
The stories a few of us could tell about him are quite disturbing.
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How many times has Chris taken one up the chuffer?
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How many times has Chris taken one up the chuffer?
Numerous.
Our old friend McFarland was around to witness some of the action take place.
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Numerous.
Our old friend McFarland was around to witness some of the action take place.
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Whatever happened to McJodels?
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said Arum, who handles both fighters
I get the feeling that this was set up from the get go - so that he could build up a huge rematch and make fuck tons of money.
If I was Pac, Id drop this piece of shit now.
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2012/06/10/0610-bradley-pacuaio-4.jpg)
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/06/10/the-timothy-bradley-manny-pacquiao-rematch-poster-was-already-made-two-weeks-ago/
Are you ready for Manny Pacquiao – Timothy Bradley II? Timothy Bradley tweeted out this photo back on May 29th, 11 days before the fight that was so controversial that it demands a rematch.*
As you can tell from the poster, the match is set for November 10, and the tickets – hey, what do you know – are available right now.
At this point, we should remind you that Bob Arum is the promoter for both Pacquiao and Bradley. If this had been scored a decisive victory for Pacquiao, there is no rematch or at least one that is desired by the public. Arum acted upset after the fight, saying he had it 10 rounds to 2 for Pacquiao. He also told Kevin Iole, “This is a death knell for boxing, and I’m going to make a ton of money on the rematch.”
Yeah, well, Arum’s product, for which they were already publishing rematch posters, became far more relevant – and despite the protests the sport of boxing is being talked about this morning – because of what happened early Sunday morning in Las Vegas.
Oh, and then there was this picture of Timothy Bradley in a wheelchair at the post fight press conference. Nothing says dominance like a wheelchair. Honestly, at this point, all we need is Mean Gene Okerlund.
*not really, at least as to “the demanding a rematch” part
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Honestly, at this point, all we need is Mean Gene Okerlund.
I just want to be on the record as saying I fully support bringing Mean Gene on board in some sort of promotional capacity.
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Boxing is a joke...anyone who actually pays for this rematch deserves to have there money stolen from them, Arum cares about one thing and one thing only....$$$$$$
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I don't know what the big fuss is about, is everyone here that screams "robbery" really that Nieve, really people? wake up, boxing has been rigged for half a century, at least at the top levels, to many people involved in a payday for a fighter to deicide he wants to fight fair, it won't be allowed, it can't be allowed at this level, it's all part of a big game, lol at the people who actually think the judges had anything to do with the decision, they are just puppets people, reality check.