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Getbig Main Boards => General Topics => Topic started by: Marty Champions on June 14, 2012, 04:08:33 PM
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10 dollars an hour job means you wont save anything 40 hours a week paying for gas food home bills random things that bite you ect.. the only way a 10 dollar an hour job pays off is if your living with your parents or have one or two hoes that you roomate with in a CHEAP apartment
economy is taking a break, the money now is truly equal and deserving for the work you do. inflation or current price of things is about right, gas is going down slightly since it was getting too much heat about it when it was a little higher
im not gonna pay a dude more than 5 dollars to put one coat of paint on one door, but people expect more , but its just not worth it to me to paint a door both sides takes about 12-15 minites to do a decent job with one coat. this is one of the reasons why i dont hire fuckers to paint, the shit is too easy, people expect too much pay for decent manual labor
so if romney or obama created any more jobs they wont be more than 10 per hour deservingly, if u get paid more than that you are getting over on the system. jobs like plumbing and heating hvac are jobs that get over on people (excluding costs of parts) the labor is less than a painters labor
what am i really saying?
do we really need more jobs?
are we being greedy?
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hey johnie, youre right, creating jobs which are only part time and badly paid is only misleading to the people.
im affraid the days where one could work forever in a factory 9-5 are numbered.
working and standing long hours are good for the libido
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10 dollars an hour job means you wont save anything 40 hours a week paying for gas food home bills random things that bite you ect.. the only way a 10 dollar an hour job pays off is if your living with your parents or have one or two hoes that you roomate with in a CHEAP apartment
economy is taking a break, the money now is truly equal and deserving for the work you do. inflation or current price of things is about right, gas is going down slightly since it was getting too much heat about it when it was a little higher
im not gonna pay a dude more than 5 dollars to put one coat of paint on one door, but people expect more , but its just not worth it to me to paint a door both sides takes about 12-15 minites to do a decent job with one coat. this is one of the reasons why i dont hire fuckers to paint, the shit is too easy, people expect too much pay for decent manual labor
so if romney or obama created any more jobs they wont be more than 10 per hour deservingly, if u get paid more than that you are getting over on the system. jobs like plumbing and heating hvac are jobs that get over on people (excluding costs of parts) the labor is less than a painters labor
what am i really saying?
do we really need more jobs?
are we being greedy?
We need less humans. Less Humans=More Resources for us which =higher standard of living. Get rid of Religion and babies and we will all be set.
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We need less humans. Less Humans=More Resources for us which =higher standard of living. Get rid of Religion and babies and we will all be set.
lol we cant get rid of the babies bro that would make you cease to exist. there are ways of cultivating happy lifestyles, but we arent gonna get there chopping off the heads of ducks and chickens and slaughtering cattle
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i think we are at the highest standard of living available to us right now
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i think we are at the highest standard of living available to us right now
Far from it. More people have debt than ever before. The majority do not own anything. No house, no land nothing. The only thing they do own is an Iphone and Phone Subscription. There are not enough jobs to go around and yet more people keep breeding. ??? This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Population Control is needed. Incentives to those without children or those who do not want them such as Tax Breaks or Income Tax Free is in dire need of implementation.
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As the Population rises so does inflation. Overpopulation is the engine that drives inflation.
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As the Population rises so does inflation. Overpopulation is the engine that drives inflation.
I agree with you. People are not cats/rabbits or whatever. There is no biological need for more than one or two children. Our medicine today, and long life expectancy ensure the human race will go on with just a few offspring.
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Good topic JF.
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We need less humans. Less Humans=More Resources for us which =higher standard of living. Get rid of Religion and babies and we will all be set.
If you want fewer people on this planet, try leading by example.
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If you want fewer people on this planet, try leading by example.
I am. I am NEVER going to have children and Jezebelle NEVER wants to have children. We find them wasteful and repulsive.
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I am. I am NEVER going to have children and Jezebelle NEVER wants to have children. We find them wasteful and repulsive.
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I am. I am NEVER going to have children and Jezebelle NEVER wants to have children. We find them wasteful and repulsive.
You want fewer HUMANS on the planet. Nobody said anything about children. Why should they have to die? You want more room on this planet, make room for it.
Last time I checked, there wasn't a big demand for blowhard atheist trust-fund wards. So, move over.
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You want fewer people on the air. Nobody said anything about children. Why should they have to die? You want more room on this planet, make room for it.
Last time I checked, there wasn't a big demand for blowhard atheist trust-fund wards.
Its quite simple really. Let the Death Rate exceed the Birth Rate and in time it will all be cured. Is this such a difficult concept for you to understand?
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Its quite simple really. Let the Death Rate exceed the Birth Rate and in time it will all be cured. Is this such a difficult concept for you to understand?
Or you can gobble a handful of sleeping pills and accelerate the process. Is that such a difficult concept for YOU to understand?
You want fewer humans? Try jumping off a 200-ft cliff with a 205-ft bungee cord. Somebody has to die, WHY NOT YOU!!
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I agree with you. People are not cats/rabbits or whatever. There is no biological need for more than one or two children. Our medicine today, and long life expectancy ensure the human race will go on with just a few offspring.
I agree- and thats why studies show the number of children per middle class household are going down. The problem is that the class of people that are bringing more babies into this world are the lower class. They don't care if they cant feed them or pay for basic necessities when they get more welfare for each additional child. There's an incentive for them to reproduce...
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I agree- and thats why studies show the number of children per middle class household are going down. The problem is that the class of people that are bringing more babies into this world are the lower class. They don't care if they cant feed them or pay for basic necessities when they get more welfare for each additional child. There's an incentive for them to reproduce...
Love the fake intellectualism here....
Anyone who has ever studied this stuff (as opposed to making shit up to post on Internet boards) has always concluded that poor people have more kids to increase the odds that one of their kids can uplift the family out of poverty...but hey, youre a getbig scholar, sure you know better
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Or you can gobble a handful of sleeping pills and accelerate the process. Is that such a difficult concept for YOU to understand?
You want fewer humans? Try jumping off a 200-ft cliff with a 205-ft bungee cord. Somebody has to die, WHY NOT YOU!!
You are black. I wouldn`t expect you to understand the concept of birth control. What in the world was I thinking!
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You are black. I wouldn`t expect you to understand the concept of birth control. What in the world was I thinking!
Thank you for sparing us the next generation of Internet assholes, fake intellectuals.
You da man!!
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Thank you for sparing us the next generation of Internet assholes, fake intellectuals.
You da man!!
I leave it to you and the others to wallow in your own mire of an over-crowded world full of fecal matter and germs with inflation run amok. All because you want Tyrone to slam dunk a basketball or if you are white, John to become the best wrestler in all of the trailer park.
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You are black. I wouldn`t expect you to understand the concept of birth control. What in the world was I thinking!
And, you're a spoiled delusional crackpot loser of a man (regardless of color) who's been spared from being a panhandler, only due to the fortune of his rich mama and daddy.
Like most liberals who want to share the wealth (as long as it's not their own), you want fewer people on the planet, as long as you don't have to give up your spot.
Exactly what value do you bring to the planet again?
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Your welcome. I leave it to you and the others to wallow in your own mire of an over-crowded world full of fecal matter and germs with inflation run amok. All because you want Tyrone to slam dunk a basketball or if you are white, John to become the best wrestler in all of the trailer park.
Hey, Einstein. The word is "YOU'RE". Even I know that, and I'm black. What's your excuse, genius?
And, where is that bungee cord again?
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We need less humans. Less Humans=More Resources for us which =higher standard of living. Get rid of Religion and babies and we will all be set.
We do need less humans. 7 billion is way too much. I'd rather see more wildlife.
But it's not realistic to get rid of Religion.
Plus, I think there is a surprise waiting for you when your life is over. Good luck!
See, you can't have a design without a designer. If you've ever designed anything in your life you would understand.
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We do need less humans. 7 billion is way too much. I'd rather see more wildlife.
But it's not realistic to get rid of Religion.
Plus, I think there is a surprise waiting for you when your life is over. Good luck!
See, you can't have a design without a designer. If you've ever designed anything in your life you would understand.
I forgot. This is the same goof that doesn't like engineers, particularly those who happen to be of Arab descent.
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And, you're a spoiled delusional crackpot loser of a man (regardless of color) who's been spared from being a panhandler, only due to the fortune of his rich mama and daddy.
Like most liberals who want to share the wealth (as long as it's not their own), you want fewer people on the planet, as long as you don't have to give up your spot.
Exactly what value do you bring to the planet again?
If we had less people, we could share more as a society and own better Privately via Capitalism. The problem is overpopulation dilutes everything causing a mediocre society where everyone thinks they are special and they want a hand out which causes unequal distribution of resources from the Haves to the Have-Nevers.
What you are advocating is a China type society where one must be dependent upon either A. the Government or B. Someone else and their hard earned wealth. There simply is no other way to sustain the population when there is not enough resources to compensate for such numbers. You also are advocating inflation indirectly as Population increase is the engine driving inflation.
I say move to China. It seems to suit you just fine.
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Hey, Einstein. The word is "YOU'RE". Even I know that, and I'm black. What's your excuse, genius?
And, where is that bungee cord again?
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You`re is a contraction that means You are.
Saying You are Own Mire would make no sense.
I don`t speak ebonics, but its obvious that you do.
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Love the fake intellectualism here....
Anyone who has ever studied this stuff (as opposed to making shit up to post on Internet boards) has always concluded that poor people have more kids to increase the odds that one of their kids can uplift the family out of poverty...but hey, youre a getbig scholar, sure you know better
I'm an engineer so I actually do significant work. No youre right I don't know firsthand mr sociologist. I had one sibling and grew up in a hard working middle class family.
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You`re is a contraction that means You are.
Saying You are Own Mire would make no sense.
I don`t speak ebonics, but its obvious that you do.
Try looking at the beginning of the sentence "Your welcome", which you typed, O Rhodes Scholar.
Your welcome. I leave it to you and the others to wallow in your own mire of an over-crowded world full of fecal matter and germs with inflation run amok. All because you want Tyrone to slam dunk a basketball or if you are white, John to become the best wrestler in all of the trailer park.
Don't you have some sleeping pills to ingest? The planet is getting too crowded and your spot is on deck.
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You`re is a contraction that means You are.
Saying You are Own Mire would make no sense.
I don`t speak ebonics, but its obvious that you do.
Hey fake Einstein, he quoted your original comment. Cut the bullshit act, you can't fake your way to intellectualism
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I'm an engineer so I actually do significant work. No youre right I don't know firsthand mr sociologist. I had one sibling and grew up in a hard working middle class family.
Don't engineers know better tan to pull things out of their assess ???
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If we had less people, we could share more as a society and own better Privately via Capitalism. The problem is overpopulation dilutes everything causing a mediocre society where everyone thinks they are special and they want a hand out which causes unequal distribution of resources from the Haves to the Have-Nevers.
What you are advocating is a China type society where one must be dependent upon either A. the Government or B. Someone else and their hard earned wealth. There simply is no other way to sustain the population when there is not enough resources to compensate for such numbers. You also are advocating inflation indirectly as Population increase is the engine driving inflation.
I say move to China. It seems to suit you just fine.
I don't have an issue with the population. You do. So, either down that peanut-butter-and-cyanide sandwich or look for the nearest cliff.
If you're so worried about resources, then cough up Daddy's trust fund and go earn a living yourself. Or, maybe you're afraid that your master's degree in upside-down-Japanese-chicken-clucking won't put a roof over your head in the real world.
"....everyone thinks they are special". That's a laugh, coming from the likes of you. What makes you worthy of being on this earth, again?
You want more room on this planet? I think the words of a certain diddy by Ludacris says it all.
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I don't have an issue with the population. You do. So, either down that peanut-butter-and-cyanide sandwich or look for the nearest cliff.
If you're so worried about resources, then cough up Daddy's trust fund and go earn a living yourself. Or, maybe you're afraid that your master's degree in upside-down-Japanese-chicken-clucking won't put a roof over your head in the real world.
"....everyone thinks they are special". That's a laugh, coming from the likes of you. What makes you worthy of being on this earth, again?
You want more room on this planet? I think the words of a certain diddy by Ludacris says it all.
the two "rappers" you speak of are not going to help our arguement brosepjenkinson jamalifalcons
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I don't have an issue with the population. You do. So, either down that peanut-butter-and-cyanide sandwich or look for the nearest cliff.
If you're so worried about resources, then cough up Daddy's trust fund and go earn a living yourself. Or, maybe you're afraid that your master's degree in upside-down-Japanese-chicken-clucking won't put a roof over your head in the real world.
"....everyone thinks they are special". That's a laugh, coming from the likes of you. What makes you worthy of being on this earth, again?
You want more room on this planet? I think the words of a certain diddy by Ludacris says it all.
Do you think overpopulation (a demonstrated fact that, if nothing else, overburdens the planet) isn't a problem?
And why should anyone who advocates for a future-looking policy of population control need to kill himself? The guy has already avoided hypocrisy by (and I'm taking him at his word here, as I've no reason not to) not having children, and is thus not contributing to the problem under discussion.
Your insistence is as silly as demanding that people who want to alleviate poverty constantly live in the ghetto and give all their money away, or that anyone who advocates going to war must literally be a soldier and fight on the ground. It doesn't make sense.
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the two "rappers" you speak of are not going to help our arguement brosepjenkinson jamalifalcons
The point is that, outside of comic relief for this forum, Adonis has added no value or substance to this planet (not even offspring).
So, if we're keeping score as to who stays and who goes and since he's so worried about this planet being overcrowded, he shouldn't mind removing himself from the equation and putting Daddy's trust fund, to better use.
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Do you think overpopulation (a demonstrated fact that, if nothing else, overburdens the planet) isn't a problem?
It's not a problem. Much of the world's woes have existed with a smaller population that what we have now.
And why should anyone who advocates for a future-looking policy of population control need to kill himself? The guy has already avoided hypocrisy by (and I'm taking him at his word here, as I've no reason not to) not having children, and is thus not contributing to the problem under discussion.
Your insistence is as silly as demanding that people who want to alleviate poverty constantly live in the ghetto and give all their money away, or that anyone who advocates going to war must literally be a soldier and fight on the ground. It doesn't make sense.
Children are the unknown factor. We don't know their potential for greatness. It's yet to be unlocked.
Adonis, on the other hand, is little more than useless organic matter who would likely reside in the very squalor as those for whom he has disdain in other parts of the world, but for the fortune of having rich parents. If he goes away, that's one step closer to solving this so-called problem.
Therein lies my point. It's all fine and dandy to cry about curbing future generations, until someone gets the bright idea that it's time to start cutting down the CURRENT population. That's when it gets messy, LITERALLY!!
Of course, Adonis has yet to answer why he deserves to be on this Earth, yet no one else down the road does.
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The point is that, outside of comic relief for this forum, Adonis has added no value or substance to this planet (not even offspring).
So, if we're keeping score as to who stays and who goes and since he's so worried about this planet being overcrowded, he shouldn't mind removing himself from the equation and putting Daddy's trust fund, to better use.
Ehh, everyone adds some value or substance to the planet, i beleive he manufactures furnature or fine leathers, thats better than being a drug dealer.
alot of the values or substances people are bringing to this planet are not enough, when you fall short of your expectations you get sick then die. Sickness is a time to wake up, and remember life is a gift, a time to appreciate the healthy times, then you ask do i still want to live and try a new way to take better care of myself so i can contribute to society?
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You can't "create" jobs out of the blue. Violates fundamental theories of economics - comparative advantage.
Chances are, governments create government jobs. This is not the ideal way to exploit america's comparative advantage.
So is it then to artifically deflate the US currency, by creating cataclismic levels of debt that could only be repaid by printing currency, which will spike inflation, further eroding US greenback value? Then, with deflated currency and a populace on its knees, America will beg for the shit low paying factory jobs it has no business doing.
And wealthy international nations will invest L/L/C into America with a devalued currency. Foreign direct investment is undeniable. Then, America can enjoy putting together cars and widgets. Instead of using all those powerful brains and intelligent people to truly make something great. America deserves better. But it will get far worse.
How sad...
Too bad politics get in the way of sound economic behavior.
it will not get that bad as whole. the poor are killing themselves off like flies with drugs and alcohol and doing time in jail and prisons because they never shaped up, basically there welfare check goes to the next "potential" loser instead
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Ehh, everyone adds some value or substance to the planet, i beleive he manufactures furnature or fine leathers, thats better than being a drug dealer.
alot of the values or substances people are bringing to this planet are not enough, when you fall short of your expectations you get sick then die. Sickness is a time to wake up, and remember life is a gift, a time to appreciate the healthy times, then you ask do i still want to live and try a new way to take better care of myself so i can contribute to society?
What happens when manufacturing furniture or fine leather is no longer valuable? At one time, 8-track tapes were valuable.
Again, who's keeping score here? Who's determining what/who is or isn't valuable?
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10 dollars a hour, fuck the dudes standing at the stop lights with signs make more than that.
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It's not a problem. Much of the world's woes have existed with a smaller population that what we have now.
Yes, many problems existed before we had such a massive population and will continue to exist even if we downsize. That doesn't at all mean there aren't unique problems that arise specifically because of the size of the population; we can have both the same old problems plus new ones caused by having too many people on a planet with finite resources. Indeed, that is what most of the experts say is happening right now. It's common sense that things will be much worse on this planet if we reach a population of, say, 100 billion people, over what we've got today. The planet can't hold an unlimited number of people; how can there be any controversy of such an obvious fact?
Children are the unknown factor. We don't know their potential for greatness. It's yet to be unlocked.
Cue "Every Sperm is Sacred" playing in the background for this quote. ;D
Every child born has its attendant costs and benefits to society. The main point is that children born into a world that is overpopulated are guaranteed to put unsustainable costs on the species in the long run, whatever potential benefit they bring. This isn't open to interpretation; if you are trapped on an island with its agriculture maxed out such that it can produce enough food to support 100 people and you've already got a little over 100 people there, arguing that another baby might become the next Mozart doesn't cut muster: there isn't enough fucking food for the people that already exist!
Therein lies my point. It's all fine and dandy to cry about curbing future generations, until someone gets the bright idea that it's time to start cutting down the CURRENT population. That's when it gets messy, LITERALLY!!
This is a logical fallacy called the "slippery slope." You are arguing that if population control measures were put in place, it would be a small step to actively eliminating already living human beings in order to control population that much more effectively. As with all other slippery slopes, there isn't any actual connection between the two ideas. Why would incentivizing people to not have so many kids suddenly make people think it's a good idea to start killing potential parents? There is no reason at all to suppose that the one would lead to the other. Is handing out condoms to poor people a small step from bulldozing their neighborhoods and killing them all?
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Yes, many problems existed before we had such a massive population and will continue to exist even if we downsize. That doesn't at all mean there aren't unique problems that arise specifically because of the size of the population; we can have both the same old problems plus new ones caused by having too many people on a planet with finite resources. Indeed, that is what most of the experts say is happening right now. It's common sense that things will be much worse on this planet if we reach a population of, say, 100 billion people, over what we've got today. The planet can't hold an unlimited number of people; how can there be any controversy of such an obvious fact?
Cue "Every Sperm is Sacred" playing in the background for this quote. ;D
Every child born has its attendant costs and benefits to society. The main point is that children born into a world that is overpopulated are guaranteed to put unsustainable costs on the species in the long run, whatever potential benefit they bring. This isn't open to interpretation; if you are trapped on an island with its agriculture maxed out such that it can produce enough food to support 100 people and you've already got a little over 100 people there, arguing that another baby might become the next Mozart doesn't cut muster: there isn't enough fucking food for the people that already exist!
This is a logical fallacy called the "slippery slope." You are arguing that if population control measures were put in place, it would be a small step to actively eliminating already living human beings in order to control population that much more effectively. As with all other slippery slopes, there isn't any actual connection between the two ideas. Why would incentivizing people to not have so many kids suddenly make people think it's a good idea to start killing potential parents? There is no reason at all to suppose that the one would lead to the other. Is handing out condoms to poor people a small step from bulldozing their neighborhoods and killing them all?
Yet, every time someone condones something like this, claiming the slippery slope will never happen, it usually does.
People never thought that government would start trying to ban what you eat. Look at New York City now. They're about to criminalize people for having a SODA, larger than 16 oz. And, they're aiming for popcorn and certain milk products next.
Then, there's the North Carolina school that took a kid's home lunch and replaced with chicken nuggets (charging the parent of that child for it, to boot).
As for your condom question, now we have at least three cases of people, trying to kill their unborn babies, because they're girls.
That's the same foolishness they do in China, with politicians here (Democrat and Republican) SCREAMING that this is not only sexist but a human rights violation. There have even been cases where babies have been killed after they're born. Yet, the mother gets off, simply because the cord wasn't cut. And, of course, you have the botched abortion deals, where the babies are completely out of the womb but they get whacked anyway.
Of course, people back in the day said abortion would NEVER lead to infanticide, selective abortions, partial-birth abortions, or anything like that. This was simply a slippery slope argument, which was false. Yet, here we are and it's happening RIGHT NOW.
Your overpopulation spiel is inaccurate for one simple reason: We have PLENTY OF RESOURCES. The issue is that those resources are mismanaged and wasted. Look at the countries where too many people are starving, and you'll find that virtually every one of them has corrupt government and/or socialist policies that trap people in squalor. That's why many people in such countries risk life and limb to come here.
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I don't have an issue with the population. You do. So, either down that peanut-butter-and-cyanide sandwich or look for the nearest cliff.
If you're so worried about resources, then cough up Daddy's trust fund and go earn a living yourself. Or, maybe you're afraid that your master's degree in upside-down-Japanese-chicken-clucking won't put a roof over your head in the real world.
"....everyone thinks they are special". That's a laugh, coming from the likes of you. What makes you worthy of being on this earth, again?
You want more room on this planet? I think the words of a certain diddy by Ludacris says it all.
holy shit what an ownage.
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I don't know what you fuckers are worried about. the NWO has plans to reduce the population to 1/2 billion. So dont worry you little heads, the NWO has heard your concerns and is on the task as we speak!
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Well basically smartest/richest/most contributing humans will survive while poorer, most uneducated/ignorant/violent and useless ones will be "selected".
Same old process.
Without a doubt true anus who has no useful skill and "studies" while his "girlfriend" works , who thinks kids "are disgusting" -cause he couldnt provide shit for an eventual offspring as he s a self obsessed immature little pos- won't last long when momy and dady's money will run dry. It won't take long either for the girl to figure what kind of cowardly wanker he is and go for a real man who dont lure her into thinking "kids are disgusting".
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Bill Gates has come up with a Cock Zapper that sterilizes men for 6 months. Eugenics at it's finest!
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Yet, every time someone condones something like this, claiming the slippery slope will never happen, it usually does.
People never thought that government would start trying to ban what you eat. Look at New York City now. They're about to criminalize people for having a SODA, larger than 16 oz. And, they're aiming for popcorn and certain milk products next.
Then, there's the North Carolina school that took a kid's home lunch and replaced with chicken nuggets (charging the parent of that child for it, to boot).
As for your condom question, now we have at least three cases of people, trying to kill their unborn babies, because they're girls.
That's the same foolishness they do in China, with politicians here (Democrat and Republican) SCREAMING that this is not only sexist but a human rights violation. There have even been cases where babies have been killed after they're born. Yet, the mother gets off, simply because the cord wasn't cut. And, of course, you have the botched abortion deals, where the babies are completely out of the womb but they get whacked anyway.
Of course, people back in the day said abortion would NEVER lead to infanticide, selective abortions, partial-birth abortions, or anything like that. This was simply a slippery slope argument, which was false. Yet, here we are and it's happening RIGHT NOW.
Your overpopulation spiel is inaccurate for one simple reason: We have PLENTY OF RESOURCES. The issue is that those resources are mismanaged and wasted. Look at the countries where too many people are starving, and you'll find that virtually every one of them has corrupt government and/or socialist policies that trap people in squalor. That's why many people in such countries risk life and limb to come here.
As much as I enjoy arguing, I am initiating a tactical withdrawal here because I honestly do not know whether the planet is overpopulated at this point and don't feel like doing the relevant research. Plus, what TA is arguing for is incredibly unrealistic; if he thinks such a policy is viable then he is living in an alternate universe very different from ours (or he is simply an idiot, a distinct possibility).
In any case, the primary point of my post was to point out some logical aspects of what you said, and these are still relevant.
1. You said that "much of the world's woes" existed before we had the population we currently have, as if this fact disputes the notion that a burgeoning population is a problem. In fact, the two ideas are mutually compatible: we can have the same old problems that aren't related to population size, plus new ones that are. So, your statement doesn't refute anything.
2. I think you're confused about the nature of slippery slopes. A fallacious slippery slope argument looks like this: "If X is allowed, then inevitably Y will occur," where Y is an extreme on the far end of a continuum with X, and where there isn't an accompanying demonstration plausibly showing X will lead to Y. So, your examples regarding food, while interesting, aren't relevant (there is no antecedent "If X is allowed" for these occurrences).
3. The above definition makes clear why your implying that once we start curbing future populations we'll begin killing people of this population for the sake of population control is a fallacy: you claim that an extreme at the far end of the spectrum from 'controlling future population levels' will occur, without giving a single reason to suppose that it would.
4. Your example of abortion isn't relevant either. Isolated incidents of infanticide do not constitute a successful slippery slope argument, because 1) the relevant slippery slope arguments in this case try to say that abortion will lead to the widespread killing of actual infants, not that it will lead to isolated incidents (otherwise they are trivially true), and 2) just because infanticide has occurred doesn't mean it was caused by abortion's being made legal. Infanticide wasn't invented with abortion's becoming legal and therefore the argument is only successful if there was compelling evidence at the time the argument was made (when abortion was about to be made legal) that widespread infanticide would occur. In other words, if you say "If X, then Y" and X happens, then Y happens, that doesn't mean there is any causal connection between them; I can say that if Romney gets elected, there will be an economic recession sometime in the next century, and both may come true, but that doesn't mean that I was right (as the example makes clear there is no connexion whatsoever between my claims).
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This is a rather low conservative estimate. One wonders where this money is going to come from considering over 90 percent have zero savings. Children are bankrupting this country and more and more are on the way.
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http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/14/news/economy/cost-raising-child/index.htm?hpt=hp_t3
Raising a child just got $8,000 more expensive
By Annalyn Censky @CNNMoney June 14, 2012: 2:29 PM ET
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I leave it to you and the others to wallow in your own mire of an over-crowded world full of fecal matter and germs with inflation run amok. All because you want Tyrone to slam dunk a basketball or if you are white, John to become the best wrestler in all of the trailer park.
Be fair, white people now give their children names that are just as retarded as black people.
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to paint a door both sides takes about 12-15 minites to do a decent job with one coat
Buy an airless. I like Titan. Graco also has a battery powered airless which will suit small jobs.
Bend a roughly 10" long piece of metal to about 60 degrees, bend the ends at 90 degrees and pre-drill to suit hinge screw locations. Screw each end to an unhung door's top hinge recess and they will mutually support. Spray both sides without waiting for drying.
Each door 12-15 seconds. Through technology and innovation you can now pay 8 cents per door.
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Bill Gates has come up with a Cock Zapper that sterilizes men for 6 months. Eugenics at it's finest!
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"In recent years, astonishing technological developments have pushed the frontiers of humanity toward far-reaching morphological transformation that promises in the very near future to redefine what it means to be human.
An international, intellectual, and fast-growing cultural movement known as transhumanism intends the use of genetics, robotics, artificial intelligence, and nanotechnology (Grin technologies) as tools that will radically redesign our minds, our memories, our physiology, our offspring, and even perhaps—as Joel Garreau in his best-selling book, Radical Evolution, claims—our very souls.
The technological, cultural, and metaphysical shift now underway unapologetically forecasts a future dominated by this new species of unrecognizably superior humans, and applications under study now to make this dream a reality are being funded by thousands of government and private research facilities around the world.
As the reader will learn, this includes, among other things, rewriting human dna and combining humans with beasts, a fact that some university studies and transhumanists believe will not only alter our bodies and souls but ultimately could open a door to contact with unseen intelligence."
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"In recent years, astonishing technological developments have pushed the frontiers of humanity toward far-reaching morphological transformation that promises in the very near future to redefine what it means to be human.
An international, intellectual, and fast-growing cultural movement known as transhumanism intends the use of genetics, robotics, artificial intelligence, and nanotechnology (Grin technologies) as tools that will radically redesign our minds, our memories, our physiology, our offspring, and even perhaps—as Joel Garreau in his best-selling book, Radical Evolution, claims—our very souls.
The technological, cultural, and metaphysical shift now underway unapologetically forecasts a future dominated by this new species of unrecognizably superior humans, and applications under study now to make this dream a reality are being funded by thousands of government and private research facilities around the world.
As the reader will learn, this includes, among other things, rewriting human dna and combining humans with beasts, a fact that some university studies and transhumanists believe will not only alter our bodies and souls but ultimately could open a door to contact with unseen intelligence."
There is just one problem with immortality. It's that life loses its meaning as you get more and more bored. Humans nowadays in the most "advanced" societies feel depressed after abusing everything under the sun before they re in their 40s. Good luck fixing that. Basically what gives its taste to life is the fact that we die. It's the fact that every decision, choice between good and evil leaves an inprint that modifies our future. It's the fact that you struggle, adapt, to survive. If you re immortal, if there are no challenges anymore, if you can have everything without lifting a finger, human life itself makes no sense anymore.
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We need less humans. Less Humans=More Resources for us which =higher standard of living. Get rid of Religion and babies and we will all be set.
You referring to eugenics????
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"In recent years, astonishing technological developments have pushed the frontiers of humanity toward far-reaching morphological transformation that promises in the very near future to redefine what it means to be human.
An international, intellectual, and fast-growing cultural movement known as transhumanism intends the use of genetics, robotics, artificial intelligence, and nanotechnology (Grin technologies) as tools that will radically redesign our minds, our memories, our physiology, our offspring, and even perhaps—as Joel Garreau in his best-selling book, Radical Evolution, claims—our very souls.
The technological, cultural, and metaphysical shift now underway unapologetically forecasts a future dominated by this new species of unrecognizably superior humans, and applications under study now to
make this dream a reality are being funded by thousands of government and private research facilities around the world.
As the reader will learn, this includes, among other things, rewriting human dna and combining humans with beasts, a fact that some university studies and transhumanists believe will not only alter our bodies and souls but ultimately could open a door to contact with unseen intelligence."
Edgar Cayce had stated that the people of Atlantis were doing this. Edgar had stated this way back before WWII...
That's if you believe Atlantis ever existed.
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There is just one problem with immortality. It's that life loses its meaning as you get more and more bored. Humans nowadays in the most "advanced" societies feel depressed after abusing everything under the sun before they re in their 40s. Good luck fixing that. Basically what gives its taste to life is the fact that we die. It's the fact that every decision, choice between good and evil leaves an inprint that modifies our future. It's the fact that you struggle, adapt, to survive. If you re immortal, if there are no challenges anymore, if you can have everything without lifting a finger, human life itself makes no sense anymore.
Immortality doesn't mean a genie grants you every wish you ever wanted - it just means you don't die - you are still limited by the many human limitations - boredom is for the indoctrinated, those who pierce to the core of life, Never ever ever get bored, why waste your time wondering what you could do, when there is infinite knowledge and wisdom to collect. I for one, would enjoy a much longer life, I would be happy to terminate those who are sick of life by 40, as it is these arseholes that are living a retarded hedonistic lifestyle that could truly be considered oxygen thieves.
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You referring to eugenics????
It depends on what day you catch him. I'm still waiting for him to explain why he deserves to have a pulse.
Now, he wants to dictate who should have kids and who shouldn't, whether they can afford to do so or not. Of course, if his parents thought that way, he wouldn't be here spouting this foolishness, while living off their money.
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Buy an airless. I like Titan. Graco also has a battery powered airless which will suit small jobs.
Bend a roughly 10" long piece of metal to about 60 degrees, bend the ends at 90 degrees and pre-drill to suit hinge screw locations. Screw each end to an unhung door's top hinge recess and they will mutually support. Spray both sides without waiting for drying.
Each door 12-15 seconds. Through technology and innovation you can now pay 8 cents per door.
You don`t get the beauty of brush strokes. I also do not believe in taking doors off hinges to paint them, especially if you have giant old heavy doors of solid wood that weigh who knows how many pounds!
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I am. I am NEVER going to have children and Jezebelle NEVER wants to have children. We find them wasteful and repulsive.
Probably for the best.
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Probably for the best.
It certainly is. We wouldn`t want to waste any of our time on something we both do not care to have.
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You don`t get the beauty of brush strokes. I also do not believe in taking doors off hinges to paint them, especially if you have giant old heavy doors of solid wood that weigh who knows how many pounds!
I never doubted we could rely on you to retain a distinct colonial Monticellian character, TA.
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This is a rather low conservative estimate. One wonders where this money is going to come from considering over 90 percent have zero savings. Children are bankrupting this country and more and more are on the way.
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/2012/06/14/news/economy/cost-raising-child/chart-raising-child.top.gif)
http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/14/news/economy/cost-raising-child/index.htm?hpt=hp_t3
Raising a child just got $8,000 more expensive
By Annalyn Censky @CNNMoney June 14, 2012: 2:29 PM ET
but 8000 dollars is just 8000 peices of paper not even a full small pine tree. "not even a small pine tree" is the real cost
we are lucky as hell to live in a society where "paper" is what can get you things like a big ass house and car
money debt means nothing and will mean nothing in the future when people finally "get it"
paper money was a good scheme to get people off of there asses, and it worked
theres nearly infinite resources, money has already been inflated to hell, but its still of "worth" the only other alternative is just making that paper money worth less and less but even hyper inflation isnt a possiblity there will be too much uprising and chaos the elites dont want to get hunted down, they want people in the system not fighting against it with guns
the system of currency , paper currency will always be around, it wont ever get too inflated
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Buy an airless. I like Titan. Graco also has a battery powered airless which will suit small jobs.
Bend a roughly 10" long piece of metal to about 60 degrees, bend the ends at 90 degrees and pre-drill to suit hinge screw locations. Screw each end to an unhung door's top hinge recess and they will mutually support. Spray both sides without waiting for drying.
Each door 12-15 seconds. Through technology and innovation you can now pay 8 cents per door.
with sprayers, they create drippy runs and also you gotta tape off to create straight lines from different color paints like seperation from the wall and trim
plus you gotta flush the machine out after use and that takes time
painting by hand is better
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with sprayers, they create drippy runs and also you gotta tape off to create straight lines from different color paints like seperation from the wall and trim
plus you gotta flush the machine out after use and that takes time
painting by hand is better
X2 just stand and paint.
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I am. I am NEVER going to have children and Jezebelle NEVER wants to have children. We find them wasteful and repulsive.
thank fucking god for that. i couldnt imagine the hideous creature you would spawn. seriously- could you imagine how ugly that baby would be? lol jesus christ. and yes, im sure they would be as repulsive as you anticipate if not moreso.
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X2 just stand and paint.
yeah there really isnt any advantage to the sprayer unless your painting a highway ;D
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yeah there really isnt any advantage to the sprayer unless your painting a highway ;D
I guess you're right. No one who makes any money really uses those things.
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The difference between the two vastly different subjects going on in this thread is amazingly entertaining :)
The population is getting filled at a vastly higher rate by the lower class. The lower class typically contributes far less than they consume and depend largely upon government assistance for subsistence/survival. The children of the lower class have plentiful opportunities to help them succeed and elevate themselves out of the vicious cycle but usually fail due to the cultural issues brought on by their socio-economic status. I f we continue to allow our society to be flooded by these types of people, we allow the system to completely crash.
My wife and I both have college degrees and successful careers, we pay a shitload of taxes and are actively involved in our community. We have two kids, both if which are honor students, successful in sports and are actively involved in several extra-curricular organizations. They will both graduate from college and have professional careers. I mention this because we knew the limits of our resources and purposefully stopped having children (snip, snip) before we exceeded our capacity to support. Even in our most trying times financially, we have never needed to use government aid to support our family.
There should be limits to how many children a person can have, relative to that person's ability to financially support them. No sensible reason exists for an unemployed single mother of 8 (from 5+ fathers) or 6th generation welfare families.
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I guess you're right. No one who makes any money really uses those things.
nice :)
if youre wanting to use a paint sprayer you need a whole crew moving at once . one has to seal off EVERYTHING that doesnt need paint on it, door nobs, windows ect because sprayers leave a huge mist of paint in the air , you use up ventalator filters for your mask , use up tons of tarp and tape, you need to clean the bottom of your shoes or take them off if you leave the work area because you track around paint on the bottoms, you need to clean the machine and a flush takes about 40 minites. Theres a whole lot more precautionary measures needed when using a sprayer because its not as accurate, but the time your taping off and sealing off windows with the correct lines you couldve rolled a normal wall with one person
normal painting only requires on person and is much more enjoyable alot less hassel and materials
ive used sprayers before
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nice :)
if youre wanting to use a paint sprayer you need a whole crew moving at once . one has to seal off EVERYTHING that doesnt need paint on it, door nobs, windows ect because sprayers leave a huge mist of paint in the air , you use up ventalator filters for your mask , use up tons of tarp and tape, you need to clean the bottom of your shoes or take them off if you leave the work area because you track around paint on the bottoms, you need to clean the machine and a flush takes about 40 minites. Theres a whole lot more precautionary measures needed when using a sprayer because its not as accurate, but the time your taping off and sealing off windows with the correct lines you couldve rolled a normal wall with one person
normal painting only requires on person and is much more enjoyable alot less hassel and materials
ive used sprayers before
Plus a Paint Sprayer is terrible if you are painting anything historic as it will ruin the historical look.
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It's true that the painters I know often roll when I would have expected them to spray, but I've never seen a crew that doesn't break out the machine for production on big jobs. They're always in a good mood when they do too, since they're never making less than $100/hr with gun in hand.
It's my understanding that excessive misting is caused by unnecessarily high pressure. Lots of guys seem to max it out at 3300psi all the time.
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Let nature take its course.....Mother Nature will provide some nice virus to whittle the population down.
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yeah there really isnt any advantage to the sprayer unless your painting a highway ;D
Yea just manual labor is best then you get the physical work fuck sprayers.
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Haha true anus is a little scared homosexualized piece of shit who cooks for his girl before she gets back from work as the breadwinner. He s as self obsessed/centered as a 14 y/o kid and cant care about anyone but himself just like so many immature "males" who come from dysfunctional, monoparental families -ie: raised by feminist / bat shit crazy single moms who destroyed their kids' image of the man/father-. His girl is a substitue of his momma. He's her little child 24/7 365 days a year. No wonder he pretends to be so unique and smart that he "doesnt want" kids. Yeah really smart of you, very original, you re not an animal just like everyone else right? You re something special. A liberal closet homo who push weights to reclaim his virility, who s going to get canned by his girl the day she figures the little kid he is and will finally look for a real grown up man.
Let's hope you ll never reconsider having kids like many men do when they hit the 50s and figure the emptiness of their existence and will stick with your "mature decision" haha.
Talk about not understanding half of what life is about.
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Haha true anus is a little scared homosexualized piece of shit who cooks for his girl before she gets back from work as the breadwinner. He s self obsessed and cant care about anyone but himself just like so many immature "males" who come from dysfunctional, monoparental families -ie: raised by feminist / bat shit crazy single moms who destroyed their kids' image of the man/father-. No wonder he pretends to be so unique and smart that he "doesnt want" kids. Yeah really smart of you, very original, you re not an animal just like everyone else right? You re something special.
Let's hope you ll never reconsider having kids like many men do when they hit the 50s and figure the emptiness of their existence and will stick with your "mature decision" haha.
Talk about not understanding half of what life is about.
Just curious....how fucked up would you say i am?
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Just curious....how fucked up would you say i am?
There is no doubt in my mind you ll end with a woman and kids. At least you re not as pompous and pretentions as true anus who really believes he knows it all. He's just a deeply hurt, scared, cynical kid in search of an identity like so many young males in our moden societies who come from broken families where every rules have been ignored due to the lack of a decent father figure. As you can see, these people stop breeding once adults and try to find any argument to justify their lack of balls, and understanding of life. They find a relative solace in playing video games or others addictions all day long until they reach their 50s. They re no match for the flood of third immigrants with strong family values that will invade northern countries in the next decades and will replace suicidal whiteys. In fact, most of these self hating byproducts of our degenerated, Godless "modern societies" where single moms are almighty, are fascinated by those who are going to replace them. Cause they still have what they lack, balls. The only problem is that mankind is going to enter a new dark age, again, as the IQ of those who reproduce is indeed, very very low.
True anus is no better than the fat vigin ugly dude in his 40s who spends all his day at work behind a computer being laughed at by his coleagues and then play video games until he passes out once he s back in his little one room flat full of computers, dvds, monitors and gamepads. When he s not still living in his ...mom basement.
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Yea just manual labor is best then you get the physical work fuck sprayers.
what made the sprayers popular were the mexicanos, because they would work for literally nothing so you would have 4 of them painting a two bedroom apartment with one bath one living room one kitchen 4 closets... say..
now this would be a deal for the homeowner because it'd be done in one day, probably cost him 600-700 spread over 4 guys .
this would take me 3-4 days (only painting) by hand, trim, and walls, windows doors ect
so it can be a benefit in a certain perspective
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lol at true anus
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There is no doubt in my mind you ll end with a woman and kids. At least you re not as pompous and pretentions as true anus who really believes he knows it all. He's just a deeply hurt, scared, cynical kid in search of an identity like so many young males in our moden societies who come from broken families where every rules have been ignored due to the lack of a decent father figure. As you can see, these people stop breeding once adults and try to find any argument to justify their lack of balls, and understanding of life. They find a relative solace in playing video games or others addictions all day long until they reach their 50s. They re no match for the flood of third immigrants with strong family values that will invade northern countries in the next decades and will replace suicidal whiteys. In fact, most of these self hating byproducts of our degenerated, Godless "modern societies" are fascinated by those who are going to replace them. Cause they still have what they lack, balls. The only problem is that mankind is going to enter a new dark age, again.
True anus is no better than the fat ugly dude in his 40s who spends all his day at work behind a computer being laughed at by his coleagues and then play video games until he passes out once he s back in his little one room flat full of computers, dvds, monitors and gamepads.
i think adonis and his girl will do quite well and hold there own in society without reproducing. thats the beauty of life you can go two pathways (to reproduce or not) and still be fascinated with life. Adonis is pretty laid back and headstrong from my conversations with him. As long as we all stay on a quest and "hope" for knowledge life will give our well being satisfaction . Nothing wrong with video games, competition is extremely fun, even if i lose its still fun! better than suicide drinking.
I thought its funny when you said "suicidal whitey" , substance abuses like cigarettes and alcohol make black and white suicidal. Black suicide by drinking them selves to death because alcohol is accepted, so many blacks i know downtown are falling apart and do nothing but suicide drink. Im glad adam doesnt get down like that. My aunt is so fucked up , she smokes cigs all the time and is falling apart at 50 something always "stressed out" whiney bitchey highly illogical, trying to get her retirmenent money cause shes lazy. While my mother "her sister" is 65 years old shes quite the opposite , doesnt smoke, works hard if she has to , doesnt complain.
people complain when they suicide drink and suicide smoke, suicide is so common, theres hardly much inbetween, its so polarized IN REALITY, but the societal acceptance of this type of suicide is sickening
the biggest downfall for third worlders is there BASIC lack of knowledge on how to take care of themselves , stay away from alcohol and to keep roaches out of there apartment. the significance of there strong family values are crushed by this
so whitey still has a good chance
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The difference between the two vastly different subjects going on in this thread is amazingly entertaining :)
The population is getting filled at a vastly higher rate by the lower class. The lower class typically contributes far less than they consume and depend largely upon government assistance for subsistence/survival. The children of the lower class have plentiful opportunities to help them succeed and elevate themselves out of the vicious cycle but usually fail due to the cultural issues brought on by their socio-economic status. I f we continue to allow our society to be flooded by these types of people, we allow the system to completely crash.
My wife and I both have college degrees and successful careers, we pay a shitload of taxes and are actively involved in our community. We have two kids, both if which are honor students, successful in sports and are actively involved in several extra-curricular organizations. They will both graduate from college and have professional careers. I mention this because we knew the limits of our resources and purposefully stopped having children (snip, snip) before we exceeded our capacity to support. Even in our most trying times financially, we have never needed to use government aid to support our family.
There should be limits to how many children a person can have, relative to that person's ability to financially support them. No sensible reason exists for an unemployed single mother of 8 (from 5+ fathers) or 6th generation welfare families.
Logical point of view formed on your own experiances with life, my circumstances are similar, it pains me to see intelligent people in this thread with views based on their race or religon, capable of reading books but in capable of forming any real opinions of their own.
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The difference between the two vastly different subjects going on in this thread is amazingly entertaining :)
The population is getting filled at a vastly higher rate by the lower class. The lower class typically contributes far less than they consume and depend largely upon government assistance for subsistence/survival. The children of the lower class have plentiful opportunities to help them succeed and elevate themselves out of the vicious cycle but usually fail due to the cultural issues brought on by their socio-economic status. I f we continue to allow our society to be flooded by these types of people, we allow the system to completely crash.
My wife and I both have college degrees and successful careers, we pay a shitload of taxes and are actively involved in our community. We have two kids, both if which are honor students, successful in sports and are actively involved in several extra-curricular organizations. They will both graduate from college and have professional careers. I mention this because we knew the limits of our resources and purposefully stopped having children (snip, snip) before we exceeded our capacity to support. Even in our most trying times financially, we have never needed to use government aid to support our family.
There should be limits to how many children a person can have, relative to that person's ability to financially support them. No sensible reason exists for an unemployed single mother of 8 (from 5+ fathers) or 6th generation welfare families.
So true. Society is drifting apart at a steady pace.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/101710406?__source=xfinity|mod&par=xfinity
Uber’s $90K salary could disrupt the taxi business
Uber cab drivers in New York are raking in near-six-figure salaries—about triple the amount their traditional taxi driver counterparts make, according to an article in The Washington Post.
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, New York cab drivers make about $32,000 a year. Uber claims the average salary for its drivers in the same city is above $90,000, presumably after the company takes its 20 percent cut from the driver's total fares. That number does not account for vehicle maintenance costs and such, but it may still explain why 20,000 drivers sign up with Uber every month, according to the company.
Smartphones deserve some of the credit. UberX drivers rely on them for leads, so they do not have to drive around hoping to be in the right place at the right time for a fare.The company claims it can serve 43 percent of the U.S. population with a cab in less than five minutes. Uber also packs mechanisms into its app that allow both drivers and passengers to rate each other. The Post's Matt McFarland thinks such a simple measure may make longstanding taxi regulation schemes in some U.S. cities unnecessary.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/innovations/wp/2014/05/27/ubers-remarkable-growth-could-end-the-era-of-poorly-paid-cab-drivers/
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You are black. I wouldn`t expect you to understand the concept of birth control. What in the world was I thinking!
haha.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-layoffs-unemployment-jobs-economy-20140924-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-layoffs-unemployment-jobs-economy-20140924-story.html)
One-fifth of U.S. workers were laid off in past five years, study says
ne in five U.S. workers was laid off in the past five years and about 22% of those who lost their jobs still haven't found another one, according to a new survey that showed the extent Americans have struggled in the sluggish labor market since the Great Recession ended..
Those who did find work had a difficult time with their job search and the effects of unemployment, the survey by the John J. Heldrich Center for Workforce Development at Rutgers University found.
Nearly 40% said it took more than seven months to find employment and about one in five of laid-off workers said all they could find was a temporary position.
Almost half -- 46% -- of the estimated 30 million layoff victims who found new jobs said they paid less then their old ones, according to the survey of 1,153 U.S adults done over the summer.
"While job growth has been consistent, it has been insufficient to produce enough full-time jobs for everyone," the study said.
Despite a declining overall unemployment rate, the study says, long-term joblessness has remained a major problem as the U.S. economy has slowly recovered from the deep recession, which technically ended in June 2009.
The study notes that 3 million Americans in August had been unemployed for more than six months. Although that figure has been declining, it still is high.
The effects of long-term unemployment can be traumatic, the survey found.
"While a majority of Americans were affected by the Great Recession, those who had long-term periods of unemployment experienced severe, negative changes in their standard of living," the study concluded.
About one-third of those who were unable to find work for more than six months reported "a major and permanent change in their lifestyle," according to the study.
Asked to compare their salary and savings now to five years ago, 42% said they had less. That figure included 25% of respondents who said they had "a lot less."