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Discuss.
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He was Mexican :o :o :o
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I'm pretty sure he was not Lee Priest.
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Spot on.
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Omar Decker ???
Keeping it bodybuilding related bro ! :D
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Been a while since I've seen the film, but yes because -
1) He takes tons of damage, etc.... that would've killed a normal human.
2) He ignores the question about taking the test, and there is no talk of his past.
3) His eyes glow/shine at a certain part when he's having a moment with the girl.
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GREAT FUCKING MOVIE!!
Gotta` watch it again now that you guys brought it up...........guilty pleasure.
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Been a while since I've seen the film, but yes because -
1) He takes tons of damage, etc.... that would've killed a normal human.
2) He ignores the question about taking the test, and there is no talk of his past.
3) His eyes glow/shine at a certain part when he's having a moment with the girl.
You left out the biggest clue. Which was a total mind fuck. :)
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I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off, the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark, near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments, will be lost in time, like tears in rain. [pause] Time to die.
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No. No he was not.
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I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off, the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark, near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments, will be lost in time, like tears in rain. [pause] Time to die.
:) Excellent scene. The pinnacle of Rutger Hauer's carrer, IMO.
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I thought they hinted at that, but still left it somewhat ambiguous. Great f'n film.
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I hear Ridley Scott is doing to Blade Runner, what he did with Prometheus. (I.E, prequel, whatever the fuck)
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I haven't heard good things about Prometheus.
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I haven't heard good things about Prometheus.
Strange, I have. Everyone that saw it, that I know, loved it.
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Probably should still check it out.
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Been a while since I've seen the film, but yes because -
1) He takes tons of damage, etc.... that would've killed a normal human.
2) He ignores the question about taking the test, and there is no talk of his past.
3) His eyes glow/shine at a certain part when he's having a moment with the girl.
1) He was shown to be in great pain and he struggled with every replicant he faced. The biggest damage I can remember was the broken fingers during the end.
2) The guy just isn't very chatty or social. If he were a replicant he would probably have a made up past like the others. In the end, we know practically nothing about Deckard, but that doesn't point to any certain direction in particular.
3) Ok, I'll give you this one. I haven't noticed it myself, have to watch it again sometime.
All in all, the movie just doesn't support the theory (many things against it, 1 or 2 small details favoring it) and it's something that was cooked up to make the movie "deeper".
P.S. I'm going by the Director's Cut.
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I haven't heard good things about Prometheus.
Was ok, not great or even close.
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I think dr. chimps needs to chime in. If I remember correctly, this is his favorite film.
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I think dr. chimps needs to chime in. If I remember correctly, this is his favorite film.
Yes,the good doctor knows his flix.
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Yes. Like the first one.
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1) He was shown to be in great pain and he struggled with every replicant he faced. The biggest damage I can remember was the broken fingers during the end.
2) The guy just isn't very chatty or social. If he were a replicant he would probably have a made up past like the others. In the end, we know practically nothing about Deckard, but that doesn't point to any certain direction in particular.
3) Ok, I'll give you this one. I haven't noticed it myself, have to watch it again sometime.
All in all, the movie just doesn't support the theory (many things against it, 1 or 2 small details favoring it) and it's something that was cooked up to make the movie "deeper".
P.S. I'm going by the Director's Cut.
Ok. I'm working off 8-9 year memories. I do distinctly remember the eye glow though.
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Wiki:
...the question of whether Deckard is intended to be a human or a replicant has been an ongoing controversy since the film's release.[63] Both Michael Deeley and Harrison Ford wanted Deckard to be human while Hampton Fancher preferred ambiguity.[64] Ridley Scott has confirmed that in his vision Deckard is a replicant.[65][66] Deckard's unicorn dream sequence, inserted into the Director's Cut, coinciding with Gaff's parting gift of an origami unicorn is seen by many as showing that Deckard is a replicant—as Gaff could have accessed Deckard's implanted memories.[55][67] The interpretation that Deckard is a replicant is challenged by others who believe the unicorn imagery shows that the characters, whether human or replicant, share the same dreams and recognize their affinity,[68] or that the absence of a decisive answer is crucial to the film's main theme.[69] The inherent ambiguity and uncertainty of the film, as well as its textual richness, have permitted viewers to see it from their own perspectives.
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I haven't heard good things about Prometheus.
I loved it, although I loved all the early Alien films.
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Harrison Ford, one of the greatest actors of this generation that never won an Oscar.
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Harrison Ford, one of the greatest actors of this generation that never won an Oscar.
Agreed he's very good, but what film could have been his Oscar?
The Fugitive?
Bladerunner?
Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost Ark?
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Agreed he's very good, but what film could have been his Oscar?
The Fugitive?
Bladerunner?
Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost Ark?
"Six Days And Seven Night"........... for sure.
I kid,I kid! ;D
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Dude, he deserves a fucking Oscar for Empire at least.
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Agreed he's very good, but what film could have been his Oscar?
The Fugitive?
Bladerunner?
Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost Ark?
he could have had ONE of the greatest trilogies of all time until he screwed up and made the fourth which will not be mentioned...
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You left out the biggest clue. Which was a total mind fuck. :)
Which was?
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Which was?
Deckard finds a unicorn origami at the end while he is escaping from his flat with Rachael. It was left there by Gaff. It's a reference to a daydream Deckard had in the middle of the movie. His dream was about a unicorn galloping through a forest.
There is an earlier scene where Deckard describes Rachael's intimate childhood memories to her; things she never told anyone. Deckard knew because he read her file. Those memories were not real, they were "implants". Rachael is an experimental replicant who was given memories because it made controlling her emotions easier.
The only plausible explanation of Gaff knowing about Deckard's daydream is that Deckard is himself a replicant with memory implants and that Gaff read Deckard's file. He left a tiny origami outside Deckard's flat to show him that he knew.
In fact, I think Gaff was the real Blade Runner all along. Throughout the film he is seen closely monitoring Deckard. He is there every time Deckard "retires" a replicant. Going after replicants is dangerous work since they are faster, stronger and in Roy's case, more intelligent than humans. But Gaff is more cunning. So, he uses a replicant to do his dirty work for him.
(http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/Pictures/Pictures/Bladerunner34Origami2.jpg)
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Sounds like what Scott says in the Wikipedia summary is right; Deckard was a replicant.
More human than human.
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I haven't heard good things about Prometheus.
In the future, robots look like nazis and wear nazis uniforms... I guess it means we wont abandon anytime soon the idea that the perfect man is white, blond, has blue eyes and looks like a german world war 2 soldier...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vBH_sbQ1SFk/T47vH0CoE4I/AAAAAAAAJn0/Ju6_T9cg0lQ/s1600/David-Prometheus-Robot.jpg)
Also God is a gay bodybuilder on steroids who looks like doctor manhatan.
(http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/prometheus-bts-engineer6.jpg)
How original!
Oh well. Money money money...
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Also God is a gay bodybuilder on steroids who looks like doctor manhatan.
(http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/prometheus-bts-engineer6.jpg)
Looks like he's on the same triceps injection protocol as Tbombz.
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In the future, robots look like nazis and wear nazis uniforms... I guess it means we wont abandon anytime soon the idea that the perfect man is blond, has blue eyes and looks like a german world war 2 soldier...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vBH_sbQ1SFk/T47vH0CoE4I/AAAAAAAAJn0/Ju6_T9cg0lQ/s1600/David-Prometheus-Robot.jpg)
Also God is a gay bodybuilder on steroids who looks like doctor manhatan.
(http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/prometheus-bts-engineer6.jpg)
How original!
Oh well. Money money money...
I take it you werent a fan... although with your seemingly cynical nature, Id assume its pretty hard for you to enjoy something like this.
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I take it you werent a fan... although with your seemingly cynical nature, Id assume its pretty hard for you to enjoy something like this.
Alien was plausible. Alien 2 and 3 started to get shitty. I liked black hawk down and blade runner from scott.
Prometheus is a badly written piece of shit with a cliche scene per second. It almost follows the exact same structure of an "alien" movie.
Fact is, nowadays when you go watch a movie, you ve seen it all in the trailer, and you re watching a patchwork of stuff mixed together that you ve alrdy seen the past last 20 years. I dont like the CGI everywhere that give an unatural, too perfect look to everything -started with the star wars sequels-, i think hand made sfx inte the past were somewhat more realistic when well done.
Nowadays everything is a remake of a remake of a remake. Maybe everything that could be done has already been done, maybe it's the end of an era.
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Maybe everything that could be done has already been done, maybe it's the end of an era.
Not true in my opinion. It just looks this way, because:
1) Films of the sort of Prometheus need absurdly big budgets, which are financed by big studios, which are in turn owned by media conglomerates (20th Century Fox -> Fox Entertainment -> News Corporation).
2) These guys operate in the way of quarterly balance sheets, they're not going to hand out $100 million just like that, they need profit assurances which means that:
3) Films have to depend on time-proven formulas, stock characters and reliable stereotypes. That's what people understand and what brings in the money. As a result, creativity is stifled to a degree, at least in mainstream movies.
There are plenty of excellent films out there, they're just not in the mainstream.
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Deckard finds a unicorn origami at the end while he is escaping from his flat with Rachael. It was left there by Gaff. It's a reference to a daydream Deckard had in the middle of the movie. His dream was about a unicorn galloping through a forest.
There is an earlier scene where Deckard describes Rachael's intimate childhood memories to her; things she never told anyone. Deckard knew because he read her file. Those memories were not real, they were "implants". Rachael is an experimental replicant who was given memories because it made controlling her emotions easier.
The only plausible explanation of Gaff knowing about Deckard's daydream is that Deckard is himself a replicant with memory implants and that Gaff read Deckard's file. He left a tiny origami outside Deckard's flat to show him that he knew.
In fact, I think Gaff was the real Blade Runner all along. Throughout the film he is seen closely monitoring Deckard. He is there every time Deckard "retires" a replicant. Going after replicants is dangerous work since they are faster, stronger and in Roy's case, more intelligent than humans. But Gaff is more cunning. So, he uses a replicant to do his dirty work for him.
(http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/Pictures/Pictures/Bladerunner34Origami2.jpg)
Cool shit Ray.
And I agree with uberman, (did I type that?)........most remakes suck and tons of CGI,especially when badly done is fucking up otherwise potentially good movies
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Strange, I have. Everyone that saw it, that I know, loved it.
It was good, but it wasnt Blade Runner good
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And yes, Deckard was most definitely a replicant.
"Its too bad she won't live, but then again who does!!?"
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It was good, but it wasnt Blade Runner good
Yes, everyone I know liked it a lot. Said it wasnt "amazing", but was a great sci-fi movie if you just went in with and left your pre-concieved notion at the door, and just enjoyed the ride.
I think part of the problem with Ridley Scott is everyone invariably compares his work to his early films. Of course its not going to be groundbreaking like his early works - as he's already broke that ground. Its a rare person that manages to be a constant supply of fresh ideas into their old age.
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You left out the biggest clue. Which was a total mind fuck. :)
origami unicorn....?
edit: oh too late
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Alien was plausible. Alien 2 and 3 started to get shitty. I liked black hawk down and blade runner from scott.
Prometheus is a badly written piece of shit with a cliche scene per second. It almost follows the exact same structure of an "alien" movie.
Fact is, nowadays when you go watch a movie, you ve seen it all in the trailer, and you re watching a patchwork of stuff mixed together that you ve alrdy seen the past last 20 years. I dont like the CGI everywhere that give an unatural, too perfect look to everything -started with the star wars sequels-, i think hand made sfx inte the past were somewhat more realistic when well done.
Nowadays everything is a remake of a remake of a remake. Maybe everything that could be done has already been done, maybe it's the end of an era.
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This....If you are going to blow up a building...blow up a fucking building. Don't do it on a computer.
CGI is fine when you intertwine it with real, analog FX, and use when when it is impossible to film your vision. but it's a crutch that is relied on too often now.
Directors in the old days used their imagination and got creative, and made some classic movies. now with CG...there is no "imagination" any more, because if you think it, you can make it happen..... some kid with a hot shit computer and a 3d animation program can make stuff that blows away Star Wars now , sitting at his desk eating oreos
They aren't even "movies" anymore...they are really expensive, very detailed cartoons in my opinion
The Avengers was a good flick, but i walked away thinking I saw a cartoon more than a movie
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there was more holes in prometheus than swiss cheese.
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:) Excellent scene. The pinnacle of Rutger Hauer's carrer, IMO.
I actually agree with this..awesome scene that all will remember for a very long time
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Deckard finds a unicorn origami at the end while he is escaping from his flat with Rachael. It was left there by Gaff. It's a reference to a daydream Deckard had in the middle of the movie. His dream was about a unicorn galloping through a forest.
There is an earlier scene where Deckard describes Rachael's intimate childhood memories to her; things she never told anyone. Deckard knew because he read her file. Those memories were not real, they were "implants". Rachael is an experimental replicant who was given memories because it made controlling her emotions easier.
The only plausible explanation of Gaff knowing about Deckard's daydream is that Deckard is himself a replicant with memory implants and that Gaff read Deckard's file. He left a tiny origami outside Deckard's flat to show him that he knew.
In fact, I think Gaff was the real Blade Runner all along. Throughout the film he is seen closely monitoring Deckard. He is there every time Deckard "retires" a replicant. Going after replicants is dangerous work since they are faster, stronger and in Roy's case, more intelligent than humans. But Gaff is more cunning. So, he uses a replicant to do his dirty work for him.
(http://www.gonemovies.com/WWW/Pictures/Pictures/Bladerunner34Origami2.jpg)
I gotta admit this is an excellent theory......I always read the ending as Gaff telling Deckard that he knew Deckard was harboring the last Replicant, but that he, and the agency which Deckard retired from, would not turn Deckard in and would leave him alone because they knew he loved her and further it was his "reward" for getting the other Replicants for them, thus saving them from serious hot water...
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Although now that I think of it, Deckard could have been a Replicant and the memories of him being a Blade Runner could have been implanted to give him more confidence and a sense of purpose in tracking down the other Replicants....
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I actually agree with this..awesome scene that all will remember for a very long time
I've seen things, you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off, the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark, near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments, will be lost in time, like tears in rain. [pause] Time to die.
(http://www.popscreen.com/assets/thumbs/v/original/5964252v9L_o.jpg)
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Rutger Hauer endlessly trolls a young man for being a vagina.
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I gotta admit this is an excellent theory......I always read the ending as Gaff telling Deckard that he knew Deckard was harboring the last Replicant, but that he, and the agency which Deckard retired from, would not turn Deckard in and would leave him alone because they knew he loved her and further it was his "reward" for getting the other Replicants for them, thus saving them from serious hot water...
That's the genius of it isn't it? I think in the end Ridley Scott wanted it both ways, just so there would be endless discussion about the film and it would stand the test of time. It worked very well. Blade Runner was the first "Director's Cut" to come out, ever, in 1992. More editions have followed.
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I'm pretty sure Scott said he was.
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Agreed he's very good, but what film could have been his Oscar?
The Fugitive?
Bladerunner?
Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost Ark?
No.
No.
No.
He has made many entertaining movies and will likely win a honorary Oscar, but he has not turned in a Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role to rival any winner. His one nomination was for Witness. Samuel Jackson has had a similar career: entertaining films that made a ton of money (more than Harrison Ford films), but his one nomination was for Pulp Fiction. Neither Jackson nor Ford are in the first tier of actors.
Director intentions aside, Blade Runner does not make a credible case for Deckard as a replicant.
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When are we going to get those flying cars? I want my FUCKEN FLYING CAR!!!! Okay, I'm okay now..
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When are we going to get those flying cars? I want my FUCKEN FLYING CAR!!!! Okay, I'm okay now..
You sure about that? Can you even begin to imagine what it's going to be like with dumb blondes having to navigate through three dimensions instead of two???
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You sure about that? Can you even begin to imagine what it's going to be like with dumb blondes having to navigate through three dimensions instead of two???
An accident waiting to happen.
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You sure about that? Can you even begin to imagine what it's going to be like with dumb blondes having to navigate through three dimensions instead of two???
We could give them 3D glasses. Problem solved.
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I think he was...
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I think he was...
You should write a book.
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I think he was...
Spot on.
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Just saw PROMETHEUS...it was fantastic....very good story and raised a lot of questions which make you think...special effects was amazing
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Just saw PROMETHEUS...it was fantastic....very good story and raised a lot of questions which make you think...special effects was amazing
Cool,I gotta` give it a shot.
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Just saw PROMETHEUS...it was fantastic....very good story and raised a lot of questions which make you think...special effects was amazing
Ate some Lobster sprinkled with truffels few weeks ago, tasted decent. The Dom Perignon didn't hurt either.
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Just saw PROMETHEUS...it was fantastic....very good story and raised a lot of questions which make you think...special effects was amazing
My scifi buddy saw it and said it was lame; said I should wait for Netflix. But he like District 9 and I thought that was a lame/wait for Netlfix movie. :-\
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Just saw PROMETHEUS...it was fantastic....very good story and raised a lot of questions which make you think...special effects was amazing
i've read shitloads of negative reviews/comments about this movie. so now i'm gonna wait for the blu release. i'll probably end up liking it and kick myself for not seeing it on the big screen :-\
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My scifi buddy saw it and said it was lame; said I should wait for Netflix. But he like District 9 and I thought that was a lame/wait for Netlfix movie. :-\
Everyone I know that is a fan of the original loved it. Most of my friends went straight home to watch Alien and Aliens.
Seems like those that didnt like it, already had pre-concieved notions of what they wanted it to be, or got overly butthurt over the message/backstory.
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Everyone I know that is a fan of the original loved it. Most of my friends went straight home to watch Alien and Aliens.
Seems like those that didnt like it, already had pre-concieved notions of what they wanted it to be, or got overly butthurt over the message/backstory.
people were expecting face huggers and shit i bet .
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Cool,I gotta` give it a shot.
I don't think you will be disappointed...good sci-fi fare and Charlize Theron was so goddamn hot!
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My scifi buddy saw it and said it was lame; said I should wait for Netflix. But he like District 9 and I thought that was a lame/wait for Netlfix movie. :-\
nope..not lame at all.....pretty good..if you are the type of person that likes a thinking man's sci-fi flick
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I don't think you will be disappointed...good sci-fi fare and Charlize Theron was so goddamn hot!
If Charlize is in it......I`m good to go holmes! :)
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i've read shitloads of negative reviews/comments about this movie. so now i'm gonna wait for the blu release. i'll probably end up liking it and kick myself for not seeing it on the big screen :-\
see it on the screen..I think you will like it...and as I said, Charlize Theron is really hot in this flick
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What's her function in this flick? Is she just the obligatory hot babe? I've yet to see any hot female astronauts in NASA.
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What's her function in this flick? Is she just the obligatory hot babe? I've yet to see any hot female astronauts in NASA.
how would you know???>...you a fucking astronaut>???
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What's her function in this flick? Is she just the obligatory hot babe? I've yet to see any hot female astronauts in NASA.
There was that astronaut who drove cross country wearing a diaper so she wouldn't have to stop to go the bathroom because she loved another astronaut. She was cute.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Nowak
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There was that astronaut who drove cross country wearing a diaper so she wouldn't have to stop to go the bathroom because she loved another astronaut. She was cute.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Nowak
Youre still alive?
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Marines don't die
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Marines don't die
True, Marines kill.
Nice Chesty Puller pic btw.
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Devil Dog, I'm posting this shit while I'm in march time. I don't play around with motivation!
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No. No he was not.
Actually, I believe he is... Ridley Scott has taken the stance that he would be the next model replicant.
Nexus-7
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I'm glad to see 30 years later this question will be solved on Getbig in under 5 pages. Bravo gents! BRAVO!
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Just saw PROMETHEUS...it was fantastic....very good story and raised a lot of questions which make you think...special effects was amazing
Special effects was amazing
Idiot.
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Special effects was amazing
Idiot.
why am I an idiot?......they WERE amazing.....fuck you
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how would you know???>...you a fucking astronaut>???
They got this new invention, it's called the news, you should watch it sometime.