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Title: Boxing is dead
Post by: che on June 19, 2012, 02:06:03 PM
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The world's top 5  highest paid athletes.

1- Mayweather       $85 mill (Salary/winnings: $85 million ,Endorsements: $0 )
2- Pacquiao           $62 mill  (Salary/winnings: $56 million ,Endorsements: $6 million )
3- Wood                $59.4 mill  (Salary/winnings: $4.4 million ,Endorsements: $55 million )
4- Lebron James     $ 53 mill (Salary/winnings: $13 million ,Endorsements: $40 million )
5- Federer             $52.7 mill (Salary/winnings: $7.7 million , Endorsements: $45 million)

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2012/06/18/mayweather-tops-list-of-the-worlds-100-highest-paid-athletes/






Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: Wiggs on June 19, 2012, 03:25:31 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: King Shizzo on June 19, 2012, 03:31:11 PM
My idea of boxing, is dropping the last bottle of Jarritos in front of two Mexicans on a hot summer day.
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Post by: gracie bjj on June 19, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
these guys who kiss dana whites ass should read these paydays boxers get
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Post by: Hulkotron on June 19, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
Endorsements: $0 ;D
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: Marty Champions on June 19, 2012, 04:05:17 PM
mayweather is a stunted growth african american who fights other stunted growth's
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: Hulkotron on June 19, 2012, 04:11:01 PM
mayweather is a stunted growth african american who fights other stunted growth's

What factors do you suppose caused this dramatic stunting?  He seems to have a lot of negative energy which I suspect is a prime culprit.
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: che on June 19, 2012, 07:21:57 PM

I don't get  why  wrestlers, street fighters ,  football players, strongman ..........etc. chose  MMA over boxing ,
Boxers  make more money , fight with pillows that don't even hurt , one discipline is  way easier to learn than many, defensibly  you only have to worry about your opponent  hands, no kicks ,elbows, takedowns ,submissions .......etc .

I just don't get it  ???

Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: danabol on June 19, 2012, 07:31:07 PM
Ok so how much money dose Mayweather have NOW???


Anyone??
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: che on June 19, 2012, 07:34:27 PM
Ok so how much money dose Mayweather have NOW???


Anyone??

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/floyd-mayweather-net-worth/
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: G_Thang on June 19, 2012, 07:51:43 PM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/richest-boxers/floyd-mayweather-net-worth/

Hahaha, he burns money faster than Antoine Walker and Nick Cage, but Cage still has a career after 40.  213M is more like 100M. Now, subtract 5 Vegas mansions, a payroll and gambling.  There's a reason why he is trying to milk the Manny fight for $100M.  It will interesting to see him in 10 yrs if we are all around.
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: Voice of Doom on June 19, 2012, 09:27:40 PM
You'd think there would be more European Footballers on that list.
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: _bruce_ on June 20, 2012, 08:22:01 AM
If I had talent and was young enough I would go the boxing route.
Luckily either factors speak against me so I'm left with dana's vlogs on youtube.
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 08:36:12 AM
I don't get  why  wrestlers, street fighters ,  football players, strongman ..........etc. chose  MMA over boxing ,
Boxers  make more money , fight with pillows that don't even hurt , one discipline is  way easier to learn than many, defensibly  you only have to worry about your opponent  hands, no kicks ,elbows, takedowns ,submissions .......etc .

I just don't get it  ???


its the talent pool
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: maxkane69 on June 20, 2012, 11:41:58 AM
NO CHE , YOU ARE WRONG : BOXING IS DEAD !!!
Just because mayweather and pacquiao are the richest athletes in the world doesn't mean that boxing is not dead.
Infact despite floyd and manny being the top richest athletes in the world boxing is dying!
-The number of young aspiring boxers are an all time low and there are less young athletes pursuing a career in professional boxing. Infact young afro american  athletes prefer basketball and football as career in pro-sports and no more train to be boxers,and has been already over 3 decades that young white american do not practice boxing as in the past.
-The top 2 boxer in the world (Pac and Floyd) are 2 greede cowards who do not fight each others because are afraid to lose and blame each other and the promoter for the fight not happening.
-The corruption in boxing is an all time high involving every one in this industry from boxers to promoters judges refree and sanctioning world sanctioning boxing body(WBA,WBC,WBO,IBF)
-The quality of professional boxer are all time low : Pac and Floyd are lucky to be fighting in this era of absolute boxing mediocrity,infact if they were fighting back in the 80' both of them would never even became world champion in the various weight class . Just imagine pac or Floyd trying to became Superbatamweight champion against Wilfredo Gomez ,Fetherweight champion against the like of Salvador Sanchez ,Superfetherweight champion against Arguello,Lightweight champion against Roberto Duran,junior welterweight against Aaron Pryior,welterweight champion against Benitez or Leonard,Superwelterweight champion against killers like Hearns,Mike Mcallum,Julian Jackson or even a Terry Norris and a Mugabi pre-Hagler beating!
-MMA is taking over boxing because young tough athletes in love with fighting sport prefere the UFC over a corrupted declining sport like boxing,most of the boxing gym nowdays survive because most of his member are recreational fitness entusiast and woman interested in losing weight and be conditioned and have no interest in become boxers or MMA athletes interested in training boxing for MMA.(And this come from me an hardcore boxing fans who do not like MMA)
Once this Pac and Floyd retire , and is going to be soon because both or them are old and past their prime(Floyd had hard time with a shot Cotto, who himself is a shadow of his former self, and left the ring with a bloody nose and Pacquiao is not more the killer he once was since the Margarito fight) nobody will buy pay per view for boxing in USA !!!
I am sorry but BOXING IS DEAD !!! :'(

  
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: _bruce_ on June 20, 2012, 12:17:15 PM
NO CHE , YOU ARE WRONG : BOXING IS DEAD !!!
Just because mayweather and pacquiao are the richest athletes in the world doesn't mean that boxing is not dead.
Infact despite floyd and manny being the top richest athletes in the world boxing is dying!
-The number of young aspiring boxers are an all time low and there are less young athletes pursuing a career in professional boxing. Infact young afro american  athletes prefer basketball and football as career in pro-sports and no more train to be boxers,and has been already over 3 decades that young white american do not practice boxing as in the past.
-The top 2 boxer in the world (Pac and Floyd) are 2 greede cowards who do not fight each others because are afraid to lose and blame each other and the promoter for the fight not happening.
-The corruption in boxing is an all time high involving every one in this industry from boxers to promoters judges refree and sanctioning world sanctioning boxing body(WBA,WBC,WBO,IBF)
-The quality of professional boxer are all time low : Pac and Floyd are lucky to be fighting in this era of absolute boxing mediocrity,infact if they were fighting back in the 80' both of them would never even became world champion in the various weight class . Just imagine pac or Floyd trying to became Superbatamweight champion against Wilfredo Gomez ,Fetherweight champion against the like of Salvador Sanchez ,Superfetherweight champion against Arguello,Lightweight champion against Roberto Duran,junior welterweight against Aaron Pryior,welterweight champion against Benitez or Leonard,Superwelterweight champion against killers like Hearns,Mike Mcallum,Julian Jackson or even a Terry Norris and a Mugabi pre-Hagler beating!
-MMA is taking over boxing because young tough athletes in love with fighting sport prefere the UFC over a corrupted declining sport like boxing,most of the boxing gym nowdays survive because most of his member are recreational fitness entusiast and woman interested in losing weight and be conditioned and have no interest in become boxers or MMA athletes interested in training boxing for MMA.(And this come from me an hardcore boxing fans who do not like MMA)
Once this Pac and Floyd retire , and is going to be soon because both or them are old and past their prime(Floyd had hard time with a shot Cotto, who himself is a shadow of his former self, and left the ring with a bloody nose and Pacquiao is not more the killer he once was since the Margarito fight) nobody will buy pay per view for boxing in USA !!!
I am sorry but BOXING IS DEAD !!! :'(

  

Sucks.
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: Hulkotron on June 20, 2012, 12:19:46 PM
The key to the UFC's success is the fact that it is ultimate.

(http://www.crossfiteastside.com/uploaded_images/roman.sumo.deadlift.upright.row-740274.jpg)
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: Shockwave on June 20, 2012, 01:51:39 PM
I don't get  why  wrestlers, street fighters ,  football players, strongman ..........etc. chose  MMA over boxing ,
Boxers  make more money , fight with pillows that don't even hurt , one discipline is  way easier to learn than many, defensibly  you only have to worry about your opponent  hands, no kicks ,elbows, takedowns ,submissions .......etc .

I just don't get it  ???



Not sure if serious.
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 02:07:34 PM
NO CHE , YOU ARE WRONG : BOXING IS DEAD !!!
Just because mayweather and pacquiao are the richest athletes in the world doesn't mean that boxing is not dead.
Infact despite floyd and manny being the top richest athletes in the world boxing is dying!
-The number of young aspiring boxers are an all time low and there are less young athletes pursuing a career in professional boxing. Infact young afro american  athletes prefer basketball and football as career in pro-sports and no more train to be boxers,and has been already over 3 decades that young white american do not practice boxing as in the past.
-The top 2 boxer in the world (Pac and Floyd) are 2 greede cowards who do not fight each others because are afraid to lose and blame each other and the promoter for the fight not happening.
-The corruption in boxing is an all time high involving every one in this industry from boxers to promoters judges refree and sanctioning world sanctioning boxing body(WBA,WBC,WBO,IBF)
-The quality of professional boxer are all time low : Pac and Floyd are lucky to be fighting in this era of absolute boxing mediocrity,infact if they were fighting back in the 80' both of them would never even became world champion in the various weight class . Just imagine pac or Floyd trying to became Superbatamweight champion against Wilfredo Gomez ,Fetherweight champion against the like of Salvador Sanchez ,Superfetherweight champion against Arguello,Lightweight champion against Roberto Duran,junior welterweight against Aaron Pryior,welterweight champion against Benitez or Leonard,Superwelterweight champion against killers like Hearns,Mike Mcallum,Julian Jackson or even a Terry Norris and a Mugabi pre-Hagler beating!
-MMA is taking over boxing because young tough athletes in love with fighting sport prefere the UFC over a corrupted declining sport like boxing,most of the boxing gym nowdays survive because most of his member are recreational fitness entusiast and woman interested in losing weight and be conditioned and have no interest in become boxers or MMA athletes interested in training boxing for MMA.(And this come from me an hardcore boxing fans who do not like MMA)
Once this Pac and Floyd retire , and is going to be soon because both or them are old and past their prime(Floyd had hard time with a shot Cotto, who himself is a shadow of his former self, and left the ring with a bloody nose and Pacquiao is not more the killer he once was since the Margarito fight) nobody will buy pay per view for boxing in USA !!!
I am sorry but BOXING IS DEAD !!! :'(

  
did you make the post during oscars career?


Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 02:08:15 PM
MMA in Japan

Top Rated Boxing event for 2011
08/31/11 Kameda , David Boxing 16.7%


rest of 2011 for Boxing that hit top 10 in viewership for that day

01/31/2011 Boxing Miura , Shimoda, Uchiyama Lee 7.6%
I0/11/11 Sho Ioka Ioka, Oredon Boxing 10.9%
08/10/11 a Sho fan Hernandez's first world title defense against Sho-Ioka Ioka a boxing 16.6%
12/07/11 World Title Match Takeshi Kamedao × Teparitto 14.7% 3 times that day 10.2%, 9.8%
11/06/11 Esquivel Yamanaka × × Bosukiero-Ao The REAL • World Championship Boxing Nippon Television 8.4
04/08/11 Ao Sen war Nishioka × Gonzalez & Hozumi Hasegawa World Championship Boxing 10.5%
11/06/11 Yamanaka x Ao Real World Championship Boxing 8.4%

http://www.videor.co.jp/top.htm
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 02:10:06 PM
Do you know why the UFC  emphasizes on expansion because of its decline in the home market/US

No Brock / No Care
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/boxing/2012/02/09/female-boxers-in-britain-on-the-rise-according-to-sport-england-survey-100252-30295574/
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: maxkane69 on June 20, 2012, 02:12:03 PM
Sucks.

I know that it sucks, but maybe the best thing for boxing is to die !
The reason why boxing is in such decline is the absurd money that coward cherrypicker like Floyd and Pac make !
This 2 lazy spoiled boxers fight once or twice a year because they make so much money with only one match ,and because of their wealth also their Promotional company have so much power to make sure that some of the fight of Pac and Floyd are fixed , just like Clottey vs Pac (were Clottey was instructed to not even try to punch Pac) or Floyd vs Ortiz (with the ridicolous WWE outcome with a sucker punch landed by Floyd when the refree was looking on the other side ) . Funny thing is in both this fights is that the most happy about the result were the loser : like Clottey hugging and exchanging smile  with Pac at the biginning and end of every rounds and Ortiz at the end of the fight smiling and congratulating to Floyd for the sucker punch he just received. I will never forget also the manager of Ortiz at the post fight press thanking with happy face Floyd to give the opportunity to Ortiz to fight with him and ask another bout in the future instead being outrages about the sucker punch ending.
Hopefully Pac and Floyd will retire soon or better take a real beatdown in a fight that is not fixed and retire for good. In that way nobody is going to buy pay per view about boxing again and boxing will go back to his roots : when it was a prize fighting sport were the winner take all the pursue ,or almost all the pursue and the boxer are forced to fight several time a year to make a good income just like at the time of 2 greatest P4P boxers of all time : Sugar Ray Robinson (who had 200 fights) and Henry Armstrong (who had 181 fights). :)
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: Shockwave on June 20, 2012, 02:12:22 PM
Triple post meltdown by hardgainerj.
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Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
Triple post meltdown by hardgainerj.
im not the one posting in paragraphs
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: maxkane69 on June 20, 2012, 02:16:52 PM
did you make the post during oscars career?




What do yo mean???
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: MB on June 20, 2012, 02:19:35 PM
mayweather is a stunted growth african american who fights other stunted growth's

He's the size of an average 8th grader and is boxing's top draw.  That's how we know boxing is dead.    
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 02:21:02 PM
What do yo mean???
i mean did you make the same claim with the last boxing star
Title: Re: Boxing is dead.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 20, 2012, 02:21:28 PM
I don't get  why  wrestlers, street fighters ,  football players, strongman ..........etc. chose  MMA over boxing ,
Boxers  make more money , fight with pillows that don't even hurt , one discipline is  way easier to learn than many, defensibly  you only have to worry about your opponent  hands, no kicks ,elbows, takedowns ,submissions .......etc .

I just don't get it  ???



Boxing skilled elite are decades ahead of any MMA fighters in terms of advancement. Boxing is an art form to some extent. A bull in a china shop(aka Brock Lesner) moved up to the top of the MMA ranks in just a couple fights. Brock could have boxed his whole life and never made it out of golden gloves.
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: maxkane69 on June 20, 2012, 02:26:34 PM
i mean did you make the same claim with the last boxing star
Are you referring to De La Hoya ???
Yes De La Hoya era was the start of the decline of boxing but the Floyd era is the DEATH OF BOXING !!!
At least Oscar did not dodge anybody and fought all the best in his time and was entertaining boxer with punching power not a dancing trashtalker cherrypicker with no puncing power like Floyd !
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: che on June 20, 2012, 02:54:35 PM
Are you referring to De La Hoya ???
Yes De La Hoya era was the start of the decline of boxing but the Floyd era is the DEATH OF BOXING !!!
At least Oscar did not dodge anybody and fought all the best in his time and was entertaining boxer with punching power not a dancing trashtalker cherrypicker with no puncing power like Floyd !

I agree with you on the corruption /business part of boxing but if you don't think that Mayweather technically is one of the best boxers of all time  you don't know shit about boxing .
after Mayweather and Manny retire someone else will come along after  and pick up the torch,
Alvarez, Chavez Jr (if he beats Martinez), Broner , Vargas ......................et c.
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: Marty Champions on June 20, 2012, 02:57:50 PM
I agree with you on the corruption /business part of boxing but if you don't think that Mayweather technically is one of the best boxers of all time  you don't know shit about boxing .
after Mayweather and Manny retire someone else will come along after  and pick up the torch,
Alvarez, Chavez Jr (if he beats Martinez), Broner , Vargas ......................et c.

che what is it about stunted growth african americans or stunted growth boxers you stick up for , do you feel like they are your fake sons and you are rooting for your psuedo son this way
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 03:00:34 PM
Are you referring to De La Hoya ???
Yes De La Hoya era was the start of the decline of boxing but the Floyd era is the DEATH OF BOXING !!!
At least Oscar did not dodge anybody and fought all the best in his time and was entertaining boxer with punching power not a dancing trashtalker cherrypicker with no puncing power like Floyd !
you are aware that the 'boxing is dead' slogan has been pandered since the early 1900s, if its dieing that long it will outlast them all
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: che on June 20, 2012, 03:03:47 PM
do you feel like they are your fake sons and you are rooting for your psuedo son this way

yes



you are aware that the 'boxing is dead' slogan has been pandered since the early 1900s, if its dieing that long it will outlast them all

Exactly , I have been hearing the same shit since I started boxing .
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Post by: basil on June 20, 2012, 03:49:53 PM
I'm a huge boxing fan, but I think that those numbers are more indicative of a major lack of drawing power in the rest of boxing scene.  Outside Manny and Mayweather, who is drawing even close to those kinds of numbers?...and both Manny and Mayweather are only a fight or 2 away from retirement.  There are several awesome fighters out there today, but not really any drawing power from a caucasian perspective, and we're the ppl shelling out for the PPV buys.  The Mexicans are well represented in the talent pool though. 
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: maxkane69 on June 20, 2012, 04:15:55 PM
I agree with you on the corruption /business part of boxing but if you don't think that Mayweather technically is one of the best boxers of all time  you don't know shit about boxing .
after Mayweather and Manny retire someone else will come along after  and pick up the torch,
Alvarez, Chavez Jr (if he beats Martinez), Broner , Vargas ......................et c.

Of corse Floyd is tecnically great boxer with amazing speed and talent but he is never been tested by a great opponent because he always dodge dangerous fighters ,even in a boxing era of mediocrity like the one we are living!
Title: Re: Boxing is dead
Post by: haider on June 20, 2012, 04:21:53 PM
Im getting irritated with these thread title changes, is sarcasm not allowed around here ???
Title: Re: Boxing is dead
Post by: che on June 20, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
Im getting irritated with these thread title changes, is sarcasm not allowed around here ???

I agree
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Post by: jaejonna on June 20, 2012, 04:33:32 PM
Boxing isn't dead but its definitely not thriving. Those two alone make more than boxing as a whole...I'm almost certain they crush boxing as a whole.

However, as a sport that isn't good cause outside of them everyone else is unbearable to watch (Klitscho, Hopkins,ect) or just not a big enough draw. Cotto is the 3rd biggest draw in boxing and he lost to both. Canello Alvarez is the truth but young and might get touched.

Dawson vs Ward should be a good fight, two fighters on the cusp of the pound-4-pound title fighting in their prime.  
Title: Re: Boxing is dead
Post by: ob205 on June 20, 2012, 07:37:20 PM
Agree with decline, but not dead.  Ask the man on the street who the heavyweight champ is today?  Ask in 1970's, 80's and even 90's.
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: hardgainerj on June 20, 2012, 08:10:05 PM
Of corse Floyd is tecnically great boxer with amazing speed and talent but he is never been tested by a great opponent because he always dodge dangerous fighters ,even in a boxing era of mediocrity like the one we are living!
yeah he never tested himself with the likes of corrales  ::)
Title: Re: Boxing is dead
Post by: wes on June 20, 2012, 08:18:53 PM
Back in my day compared to now,it is dead and buried.

We had guys like:

Ray Leonard
Tommy Hearns
Marvin Hagler
Ray Mancini
Hector Camacho
Ali
Holmes
Shavers
Ernie Terrel
Jerry Cooney
Michael Spinks
Vinny Pazienza
Matthew Saiid Muhammed
Bob Foster
Vito Antefuermo
Ken Norton
Jorge Paez
Michael Carbajal
Roberto Duran
And tons of other great fighters in every weight class.

Now we have Mayweather.  ???
Title: Re: Boxing is dead
Post by: Bam-bam on June 20, 2012, 08:22:30 PM
boxing died with lee haney, after dorian all went downhill
Title: Re: So Boxing is dead .... yeah right....
Post by: maxkane69 on June 20, 2012, 10:39:21 PM
yeah he never tested himself with the likes of corrales  ::)

Corrales suck , he was a mediocre boxer that only had decent punching power , nothing else !!!
Title: Re: Boxing is dead
Post by: arniefan on June 21, 2012, 08:43:01 AM
Back in my day compared to now,it is dead and buried.

Now we have Mayweather.  ???


who cares what size he is as long as he draws, you can't argue with mayweathers numbers or pacquiaos either for that matter, these two will go down in history as two of the greatest drawing boxers ever

mayweather
2007 vs de la hoya 2.4 million ppv buys
2009 vs Manuel Márquez 1.05 million ppv buys
2010 vs Mosley 1.4 million ppv buys
2011 vs Victor Ortiz 1.25 million ppv buys
2012 vs Cotto 1.5 million ppv buys

pacquiao
2008 vs de la hoya 1.25 million ppv buys
2009 vs Cotto 1.25 million ppv buys
2010 vs Margarito 1.15 million ppv buys
2011 vs Mosley 1.35 million ppv buys
2012 vs Marquez 1.45 million ppv buys





Title: Re: Boxing is dead
Post by: Nails on June 21, 2012, 08:57:36 AM
 http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-manny-pacquiao-20120621,0,7227488.story (http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-manny-pacquiao-20120621,0,7227488.story)


A 5- Judge WBO panel favors Manny Pacquiao in review of Timothy Bradley bout



(http://www.trbimg.com/img-4fe332f7/turbine/la-sp-sn-manny-pacquiao-20120621-001/600)



Manny Pacquiao should have been the winner of his June 9 bout against Timothy Bradley, a five-judge panel assembled by the World Boxing Organization's championship committee unanimously decided after a video review.

Instead, Bradley won that fight -- and Pacquiao's WBO welterweight belt -- by split decision, setting off outrage among many people who saw the bout and thought Pacquiao was the clear winner.

Even with the determination of the panel of judges, the WBO is unable to overturn the outcome of the fight. Pacquiao said Thursday that's fine with him -- he told reporters in the Philippines that he would rather win back the belt in a rematch because otherwise "people may think I just usurped it."

Pacquiao added, "My supporters shouldn't worry. We're going to get that title."

The five unidentified judges on the review panel scored the fight 117-111, 117-111, 118-110, 116-112 and 115-113, all in favor of Pacquiao. At the fight, judge Jerry Roth gave Pacquiao a 115-113 edge, but Duane Ford and C.J. Ross determined Bradley won by the same score.

In his article covering the fight, The Times' Lance Pugmire called Ford's and Ross' scores a "stunning slight to punch statistics -- and the naked eyes of most everyone else." The Times' Kevin Baxter scored the fight 117-111 in favor of Pacquiao during round-by-round blog coverage of the bout.

WBO President Francisco "Paco" Valcarcel has said that the information garnered from the five judges on the review panel -- from New Jersey, Connecticut, Florida, Pennsylvania and Puerto Rico -- will be used to help persuade the Assn. of Boxing Commissions to bring in judges from outside their states for fights of such magnitude.