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Romney campaign said to ask Scott to downplay economic gains
By Michael C. Bender
June 21 (Bloomberg) -- Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign asked Florida Governor Rick Scott to tone down his statements heralding improvements in the state’s economy because they clash with the presumptive Republican nominee’s message that the nation is suffering under President Barack Obama, according to two people familiar with the matter.
Scott, a Republican, was asked to say that the state’s jobless rate could improve faster under a Romney presidency, according to the people, who asked not to be named.
What’s unfolding in Florida highlights a dilemma for the Romney campaign: how to allow Republican governors to take credit for economic improvements in their states while faulting Obama’s stewardship of the national economy. Republican governors in Ohio, Virginia, Michigan and Wisconsin also have highlighted improving economies.
Scott should follow the advice of the Romney campaign and it won’t undermine his own message, said Mac Stipanovich, a political strategist and lobbyist in Florida.
“This is one of those situations where you could have it both ways and there’s enough truth in it that it would resonate,” Stipanovich said. “It would be better if everybody was singing from the same hymnal.”
New Poll
Romney’s campaign is eager to sell its economy message in Florida, one of the most competitive electoral battlegrounds, where the past three presidential races were decided by 5 percentage points or less. Obama leads Romney, 46 percent to 42 percent, in a Quinnipiac University poll released today, a shift from May when the Republican was in the lead, 47 percent to 41 percent.
A Romney adviser made the request this week to Scott’s staff after press releases from the governor’s re-election campaign and Internet messages from the Florida Chamber of Commerce trumpeted the state’s drop to 8.6 percent unemployment rate in May from 8.7 percent in April, the people said. The national unemployment rate is 8.2 percent.
Scott’s news release said the jobless rate had dropped 11 consecutive months in Florida and asked supporters to “spread the news” on Facebook, Twitter and by e-mailing their friends.
Television Ad
Romney campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said in an e-mail that Romney frequently praises governors “for their ability to overcome the job-stifling policies of the Obama administration.” Scott spokesman Lane Wright didn’t return phone calls seeking comment.
Romney hasn’t campaigned with Scott, a first-term governor, whose approval rating is 39 percent, according to a poll yesterday from Quinnipiac, in Hamden, Connecticut. That’s down from 41 percent on May 24.
Romney’s staff has concluded there’s no benefit in appearing with Scott, said two campaign advisers who asked for anonymity because they weren’t authorized to discuss the matter.
The state Republican party ran a television ad in March crediting Scott, who is a year and a half into a four-year term, for drops in the unemployment rate.
“Companies are hiring, expanding, putting more Floridians to work,” the ad narrator said. “Florida’s unemployment rate continues to get better.”
Unemployment Rate
Florida’s jobless rate was 11.1 percent in December 2010 before Scott took office and 8.2 percent two years earlier when Obama was sworn-in.
“The first time I saw that ad I initially thought it was an Obama ad,” said Brad Coker, managing director of the Washington-based Mason-Dixon Polling & Research. “They’ll have to tamp it down.”
Two months later, Crossroads GPS, a super-political action committee that is supporting Romney, was on television in Florida with a spot featuring a female character saying her kids “can’t find jobs.”
“Unemployment Rate Stays High,” says a mock newspaper headline in the ad.
In Ohio, Governor John Kasich has been publicly touting the state’s falling unemployment rate and 75,700 jobs added during the past year. Rob Nichols, a Kasich spokesman, said the Romney campaign hasn’t asked the governor to change that message.
Columbus Event
Kasich’s comments may appear to conflict with Romney’s. The two Republicans campaigned at an April 27 event at Otterbein University in suburban Columbus where Romney described a difficult job market for graduating seniors and Kasich talked about the state’s unfilled jobs.
Asked about the conflict after a May 17 speech in Columbus, Kasich told reporters that although Ohio’s economy is improving, “uncertainty” from the president’s policies on health care, taxes and regulation “puts wind in our face” that would change if Romney were elected.
Michigan Governor Rick Snyder on June 19 called Michigan “the comeback state of the United States,” noting its jobless rate dropped to 8.5 percent in May from 14.2 percent in August 2009.
“We still need to do better,” Snyder said. “The whole country needs to do better.”
Geralyn Lasher, a spokeswoman for Snyder, said the Romney campaign hasn’t asked the governor to downplay economic improvements.
Economic Gains
In Virginia, Governor Robert McDonnell’s Opportunity Virginia political action committee aired an ad in April that touts gains in the economy since he took office in 2010.
Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker said economic progress was a key component of his successful defense against a June 5 recall election. Walker pointed to the state’s unemployment rate, which was 6.8 percent in May, down from 7.7 percent when he took office in January 2011.
In Florida, signs of a sagging economy remain.
The 18 percent of Florida mortgages in foreclosure or 90 days past due is the highest rate in the country, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association. Commercial buildings remain vacant across the state.
“Until you start seeing physical signs of those things starting to fill up again, I just don’t think people are going to believe a government statistic that life is getting better for them,” said Coker, the Mason-Dixon polling executive.
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That's why Obama is up 2 points in Florida and Ohio and 3 in Virginia. Romney needs to campaign and fight for the votes out there and not expect others to do the job. Rick Scott is just telling the truth and people are beginning to see that while the progress is slow....its still moving forward and things are better. Florida's unemployment went from 11.1 in 2009 when Obama took office to 8.2% recently. Can't ignore the obvious
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Does that mean the GOP governors are lying about the recovery?
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That's why Obama is up 2 points in Florida and Ohio and 3 in Virginia. Romney needs to campaign and fight for the votes out there and not expect others to do the job. Rick Scott is just telling the truth and people are beginning to see that while the progress is slow....its still moving forward and things are better. Florida's unemployment went from 11.1 in 2009 when Obama took office to 8.2% recently. Can't ignore the obvious
Two states with Republican governors, and you're crediting Obama? Two states where the GOP cleaned up in 2010, yet Obama get the credit?
What's next? Obama's going to take credit for the improvements in Wisconsin, a state that he ducked like the plague, during the recall election?
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Our FL glovernor rick scott was meeting with the lee country sheriff. made a big deal about how well the FL economy is recovering.
I can't blame Mitt for wanting to downplay the success - it's a tricky tightrope to walk. Governors have to show improvement to keep their jobs. Mittens wants us to see no improvement, but even he has admitted we are recovering.
It is reflected in the polls - Obama is doing a horrible job and romney isn't winning in the polls. Repubs just don't have confidence in a guy who signed an assault weapons ban and wrote romneycare.
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Two states with Republican governors, and you're crediting Obama? Two states where the GOP cleaned up in 2010, yet Obama get the credit?
What's next? Obama's going to take credit for the improvements in Wisconsin, a state that he ducked like the plague, during the recall election?
I thought the economy was getting worse? Are the repub governors on crack?
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Two states with Republican governors, and you're crediting Obama? Two states where the GOP cleaned up in 2010, yet Obama get the credit?
What's next? Obama's going to take credit for the improvements in Wisconsin, a state that he ducked like the plague, during the recall election?
If he's going to get the blame for things then he should get the credit for things as well. He's owns it.....good or bad
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I thought the economy was getting worse? Are the repub governors on crack?
Rick scott is bragging about FL improvements. There is no denying that.
This is a fact: jobless rate had dropped 11 consecutive months in Florida
Romney doesn't want that fact highlighted.
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That's why Obama is up 2 points in Florida and Ohio and 3 in Virginia. Romney needs to campaign and fight for the votes out there and not expect others to do the job. Rick Scott is just telling the truth and people are beginning to see that while the progress is slow....its still moving forward and things are better. Florida's unemployment went from 11.1 in 2009 when Obama took office to 8.2% recently. Can't ignore the obvious
We're on the front-end of another recession.
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He sure as shit doesn't want to talk about how the housing market in SFL has come back and is climbing daily.
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Does that mean the GOP governors are lying about the recovery?
Two states with Republican governors, and you're crediting Obama? Two states where the GOP cleaned up in 2010, yet Obama get the credit?
What's next? Obama's going to take credit for the improvements in Wisconsin, a state that he ducked like the plague, during the recall election?
Does that mean the GOP governors are lying about the recovery?
There's a difference between a state's economy and the nation overall.
And, there are some governors who can help their states, DESPITE the buffoonery of the Obama administration.
Remember that Wisconsin deal? The liberals said that was a dry run of what the presidential race would be, that it was the most important race of the year, next to the 2012 presidential race itself
But, after they got beat, they claimed it wasn't that important? Does that mean the Democrats are lying about the importance of Wisconsin?
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He sure as shit doesn't want to talk about how the housing market in SFL has come back and is climbing daily.
this is definitely true. We covered it on getbig 6 months ago when all the houses were selling. Now? Now houses are filling up. Streets are filled with kids playing again. My block was 2/3 empty at one point. Now there is only 1 house empty.
so yeah, it's bouncing back, you're right. you can see it now, as you drive around. people installing swimming polls, building fences and clubhouses.
I know a recovering economy DEFINITELY DOES NOT help romney's chances in 2012 election.
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Romney just needs to highlight thinga like the economic data that was put out today. It was abysmal and awful....no need for silliness, the economy is in really really bad shape and getting worse.
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this is definitely true. We covered it on getbig 6 months ago when all the houses were selling. Now? Now houses are filling up. Streets are filled with kids playing again. My block was 2/3 empty at one point. Now there is only 1 house empty.
so yeah, it's bouncing back, you're right. you can see it now, as you drive around. people installing swimming polls, building fences and clubhouses.
I know a recovering economy DEFINITELY DOES NOT help romney's chances in 2012 election.
Obama's been claiming the economy is "recovering" for over three years. The numbers say otherwise, which would explain why the Dems got pummeled in 2010. As far as Obama taking credit for a particular state's rebound, the Wisconsin recall race SHOT THAT to pieces.
Wisconsin added 30,000 jobs and drop unemployment by a percentage point in 18 months. But, the credit/blame for Wisconsin's economy was on WALKER, not Obama (who, of course, was MIA on June 5).
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Obama's been claiming the economy is "recovering" for over three years. The numbers say otherwise, which would explain why the Dems got pummeled in 2010. As far as Obama taking credit for a particular state's rebound, the Wisconsin recall race SHOT THAT to pieces.
Wisconsin added 30,000 jobs and drop unemployment by a percentage point in 18 months. But, the credit/blame for Wisconsin's economy was on WALKER, not Obama (who, of course, was MIA on June 5).
well, obama is full of shit. economy sucked for a while.
there's no denying that some parts of it are getting better. Rick scott points out the improving job economy. Nuymerous SW FL papers point out the recovering real estate market.
Things are getting better. not on every aspect, but on a few of them. Restaurants and bars are opening up new places. "Now hiring" signs are seen more often. Grocery stores are more crowded.
There's a gray area. It's not "Everything is better" or "Everything sucks". But the job and RE markets of FL are getting better - rick scott agrees.
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The last condo I bought for $22K 14 months ago had the identical floor plan opposite the hall go for $76K last week. It was put on the market at $60K and had 9 cash offers on it the first day alone. 3 days later it sold for $16K above listing price.
The one I bought was listed for $30K and I paid $8K less than listing price. After sitting on the market for over a year.
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Last week's numbers show everything BUT an improving economy.
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Last week's numbers show everything BUT an improving economy.
Philly FED number is a disaster, weekly claims revised up and still high.
Only a turd like 180 can try to make that a good thing.
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Obama's been claiming the economy is "recovering" for over three years. The numbers say otherwise, which would explain why the Dems got pummeled in 2010. As far as Obama taking credit for a particular state's rebound, the Wisconsin recall race SHOT THAT to pieces.
Wisconsin added 30,000 jobs and drop unemployment by a percentage point in 18 months. But, the credit/blame for Wisconsin's economy was on WALKER, not Obama (who, of course, was MIA on June 5).
So if the economy is shit its Obamas fault and if its recovering its the Governor of the state in question who gets the credit.
I wish i was a republican politician with knee-padders like you life is smooth sailing
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So if the economy is shit its Obamas fault and if its recovering its the Governor of the state in question who gets the credit.
I wish i was a republican politician with knee-padders like you life is smooth sailing
The economy is not recovering.
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The economy is not recovering.
Then how do you feel about your partys elected officials lying to the public?
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Pandering and shameless self promotion on their part.
Then how do you feel about your partys elected officials lying to the public?
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Then how do you feel about your partys elected officials lying to the public?
Scott denies it and the only organization that was able to come up with this is Bloomberg, who was citing anonymous sources to boot.
Bloomberg also has Obama polling 13% higher than Romney in the presidential race, so take anything they say with a grain of salt, Simple Jack. ::)
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Scott denies it and the only organization that was able to come up with this is Bloomberg, who was citing anonymous sources to boot.
Bloomberg also has Obama polling 13% higher than Romney in the presidential race, so take anything they say with a grain of salt, Simple Jack. ::)
So no governors is claiming the economy is better is that whats your saying?
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Pandering and shameless self promotion on their part.
:)
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So no governors is claiming the economy is better is that whats your saying?
Which Republican governor is claiming that the NATION'S economy (not their state) is better?
Please list them with link. Thanks.
Also, what is the standard used. Because this economy is certainly not better than the economy from 2000 to 2008. Economic growth has dropped for the past 4 months.
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well, obama is full of shit. economy sucked for a while sucks.
Fixed.
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Which Republican governor is claiming that the NATION'S economy (not their state) is better?
Please list them with link. Thanks.
Also, what is the standard used. Because this economy is certainly not better than the economy from 2000 to 2008. Economic growth has dropped for the past 4 months.
So the countrys economy is getting worse but the states are getting better?
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So the countrys economy is getting worse but the states are getting better?
Retardario can't be expected to think along complicated (read : common sense) lines like that.
Or maybe those Repub govs were just lying. Seems to be a common trait among the Repubs.
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Retardario can't be expected to think along complicated (read : common sense) lines like that.
Or maybe those Repub govs were just lying. Seems to be a common trait among the Repubs.
It must be easy being a repub.
Economy is shit= Obamas fault
Economy getting better= The Govs gets the credit, IF he is republican that is
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It must be easy being a repub.
Economy is shit= Obamas fault
Economy getting better= The Govs gets the credit, IF he is republican that is
Economy is not getting better. It wont improve until obama reid pelosi holder napolitano biden chu jackson et al are sent home.
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So the countrys economy is getting worse but the states are getting better?
LOL!!! So it is impossible for SOME of the states to see their economy improve while most of the other states see a decline? Case in point: Wisconsin, even Texas.
Seriously are you acting stuck on stupid?
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Retardario can't be expected to think along complicated (read : common sense) lines like that.
Or maybe those Repub govs were just lying. Seems to be a common trait among the Repubs.
Actually, shit for brains, it is possible for some states to see some economic growth while most of the nation suffers. There are 50 states. Or 57 as Obama believes.
You would understand this if you bothered to go to school and stop standing in line at the welfare office.
Yeah, those Republicans were lying. Much like the revisions made to every single jobs report made in the past 6 months that show no significant expansion of new jobs and a declining economy growth. Those are lying also.
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Spin City residents in effect here.
One can only wonder how hard they are trying to convince themselves of their bullshit. Because no one else is buying it.
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Spin City residents in effect here.
One can only wonder how hard they are trying to convince themselves of their bullshit. Because no one else is buying it.
One can only wonder why you have your head so far up your ass.
If out of 50 states only a hanDful are doing fine what does that mean for the whole? Pretty simple. But I am sure even this will go right over that worthless little thing you call your brain.
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One can only wonder why you have your head so far up your ass.
If out of 50 states only a hanDful are doing fine what does that mean for the whole? Pretty simple. But I am sure even this will go right over that worthless little thing you call your brain.
;D
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One can only wonder why you have your head so far up your ass.
If out of 50 states only a hanDful are doing fine what does that mean for the whole? Pretty simple. But I am sure even this will go right over that worthless little thing you call your brain.
Maybe you should direct the inquiry to the man that said it. Scott.
This fixation with having things up one's ass.... does it come from being a Republican or from being a Christian? Both groups seem to be naturally inclined towards this behavior.
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FL jobless rate decreasing for 11 straight months isn't debatable.
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FL jobless rate decreasing for 11 straight months isn't debatable.
Nobody's debating Florida's jobless rate declining. What's at issue is this screwball claim of yours (and others) that Obama is somehow responsible for it, when nothing can be further from the truth.
Like Wisconsin, Florida's improvement is occuring IN SPITE OF, not because of, Obama.
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Nobody's debating Florida's jobless rate declining. What's at issue is this screwball claim of yours (and others) that Obama is somehow responsible for it, when nothing can be further from the truth.
Like Wisconsin, Florida's improvement is occuring IN SPITE OF, not because of, Obama.
to be clear, if the FL jobless rate had increased every month for the last 11 months -
333386 woudn't be blaming Rick scott. oh hell no. He'd be blaming Obama.
Blame goes to dems, credit goes to repubs. I got it.
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How about credit for State level policies changes that have a positive/negative result goes to the State government, and credit for country wide policy changes goes to the Federal Government?
Just a thought.
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to be clear, if the FL jobless rate had increased every month for the last 11 months -
333386 woudn't be blaming Rick scott. oh hell no. He'd be blaming Obama.
Blame goes to dems, credit goes to repubs. I got it.
Obama's approval rating just his 43% in Gallup and 44% in Rasmussen. Apparently, some folk didn't get the memo that Obama is responsible for Florida's jobless rate declining.
Unemployment in Wisconsin dropped from 7.7 to 6.7. I suppose you're going to praise Obama for that one, too (never mind that whole recall debacle).
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Then how do you feel about your partys elected officials lying to the public?
This, while Obama and Holder are feebly trying to cover their backsides, with Fast and Furious?
This is too funny!!
BTW, where were Obama's comfortable shoes?
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Now all of the sudden Democrats want to point to 18 states whose UE rate has decreased. Yet, they don't take into account the decrease in labor participation.
Let's make it simple. Look at national stats for job creation. It has been horrible for the past 3 months. We need about 150k new jobs each month just to make a dent on the UE. The economy is not even producing 1/3 of that. Yet, these morons want to point to California and Florida as proof that the economy is improving. Unbelievable. You can't make this stuff up if you tried.
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Now all of the sudden Democrats want to point to 18 states whose UE rate has decreased. Yet, they don't take into account the decrease in labor participation.
Let's make it simple. Look at national stats for job creation. It has been horrible for the past 3 months. We need about 150k new jobs each month just to make a dent on the UE. The economy is not even producing 1/3 of that. Yet, these morons want to point to California and Florida as proof that the economy is improving. Unbelievable. You can't make this stuff up if you tried.
And in most of those states, the governors and state governments have done THE VERY OPPOSITE of what Obama is doing. I guess the Dems forgot how many state legislatures and senates they lost in 2010.
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And in most of those states, the governors and state governments have done THE VERY OPPOSITE of what Obama is doing. I guess the Dems forgot how many state legislatures and senates they lost in 2010.
Yes they did and they are doing the same stupid bullshit they did leading up to the 2010 midterms and will get exactly the same result.
You would have thought after 2010 the far leftist kooks would have gotten the message that the general public hates what they stand for, but oh well, let the landslide commence.
Hey demos - don't say you were not warned.
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Maybe you should direct the inquiry to the man that said it. Scott.
This fixation with having things up one's ass.... does it come from being a Republican or from being a Christian? Both groups seem to be naturally inclined towards this behavior.
Got any proof Scott said it? He denies it and the only source that apparently heard this was Bloomberg, who got it from an ANONYMOUS source. This is the same shitty "news" organization that puts Obama ahead by nearly 15 points. ::)
Best believe them!
Jesus Christ, Fido, you're a fucking retard.
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LOL!!! So it is impossible for SOME of the states to see their economy improve while most of the other states see a decline? Case in point: Wisconsin, even Texas.
Seriously are you acting stuck on stupid?
So i guess Obama is not to blame for the bad economy? Its the governors of the state in question who is responsible?
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Maybe you should direct the inquiry to the man that said it. Scott.
This fixation with having things up one's ass.... does it come from being a Republican or from being a Christian? Both groups seem to be naturally inclined towards this behavior.
;D