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Another ass-kicking for 333386.....Obama again makes him look like a piece of crap.....Supreme Court passes the Healthcare bill as is..all parts.......nothing thrown out as many predicted....very very big victory for Obama.....Romney and the Republicans have big time egg on their faces......Obama has accomplished something that no other president could do....
I'm sure there will be lots of sour grapes here....just give Obama the credit he's due for a change...and believe it or not it is also a Romney victory as well.....since Obama's plan was inspired by Romney's own universal plan in Massachusetts....somethi ng the Republicans and conservatives on here and elsewhere want so badly to forget
GOOD JOB OBAMA!!!!!!!!!
Sorry 3333...news reports say Obama is looking for his foot....news sources say it can be found firmly planted in your ass........ again!!!!!
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I admit, myself, the constitution, the rule of law, economic sanity, and common sense got our asses kicked today.
good for Obama and his cult followers, bad day for America.
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I admit, myself, the constitution, the rule of law, economic sanity, and common sense got our asses kicked today.
good for Obama and his cult followers, bad day for America.
what makes it even better is that the conservatives can't use the battle cry that it was passed by a liberal court.......the court is majority conservative.......you ready to give Obama some credit???....believe me..in the long run we are better off with this legislation...everyone will be covered and you and I don't have to foot the expensive emergency room bills any more
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what makes it even better is that the conservatives can't use the battle cry that it was passed by a liberal court.......the court is majority conservative.......you ready to give Obama some credit???....believe me..in the long run we are better off with this legislation...everyone will be covered and you and I don't have to foot the expensive emergency room bills any more
Who goes to the ER. For condoms?
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Who goes to the ER. For condoms?
you'd be surprised..........walk over to Montefiore, Bronx Lebanon, and North Central and find out
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what makes it even better is that the conservatives can't use the battle cry that it was passed by a liberal court.......the court is majority conservative.......you ready to give Obama some credit???....believe me..in the long run we are better off with this legislation...everyone will be covered and you and I don't have to foot the expensive emergency room bills any more
he is a lying and manipulative guy who pulled one over on the citizens.
Ill give him credit for that.
He got that tax increase he was lobbying for too, the largest one in the history of the US...
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you'd be surprised..........walk over to Montefiore, Bronx Lebanon, and North Central and find out
I am 2 minutes from montifiore, was born in mesiriacordia , and lived near Jacobi for years. No thanks.
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he is a lying and manipulative guy who pulled one over on the citizens.
Ill give him credit for that.
He got that tax increase he was lobbying for too, the largest one in the history of the US...
this is a huge accomplishment that will go down in history as one of the greatest legislative achievements in American history......Obama got it done....something many presidents wanted badly but could not accomplish
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I am 2 minutes from montifiore, was born in mesiriacordia , and lived near Jacobi for years. No thanks.
you must be pretty down today....do you need the number to the suicide hotline???
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this is a huge accomplishment that will go down in history as one of the greatest legislative achievements in American history......Obama got it done....something many presidents wanted badly but could not accomplish
so will the fact that he signed the biggest tax increase in the history of the US...
and he accomplished both by lying straight through his teeth.
that will be part of history as well...
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you must be pretty down today....do you need the number to the suicide hotline???
I am down today. We are heading for communism.
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so will the fact that he signed the biggest tax increase in the history of the US...
and he accomplished both by lying straight through his teeth.
that will be part of history as well...
yes..maybe it is a tax increase if you choose to look at it that way......but the mandate had to be paid for....at least its not an unfunded mandate as was Bush's wars and his really expensive prescription drug plan.....and I say that as a Bush supporter.....
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yes..maybe it is a tax increase if you choose to look at it that way......but the mandate had to be paid for....at least its not an unfunded mandate as was Bush's wars and his really expensive prescription drug plan.....and I say that as a Bush supporter.....
Wee are in a depression you. Fuck!
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Wee are in a depression you. Fuck!
we would be in more of a depression if runaway health costs aren't curbed you moron....at least Obama's health plan does something about this...its not perfect but what else do we have?
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we would be in more of a depression if runaway health costs aren't curbed you moron....at least Obama's health plan does something about this...its not perfect but what else do we have?
Speechless at your ignorance.
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Speechless at your ignorance.
you're looking in the mirror while saying that right?
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you're looking in the mirror while saying that right?
Looking at a glass of vodka TBH after today.
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yes..maybe it is a tax increase if you choose to look at it that way......but the mandate had to be paid for....at least its not an unfunded mandate as was Bush's wars and his really expensive prescription drug plan.....and I say that as a Bush supporter.....
its not up for debate andre, it is a tax increase...that is why it was upheld...
b/c the court viewed the mandate as a tax.
bringing up bush is just petty deflecting against the fact that obama signed the biggest tax increase in the history of the US into law
and did so in the middle of a recession...
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yes..maybe it is a tax increase if you choose to look at it that way......but the mandate had to be paid for....at least its not an unfunded mandate as was Bush's wars and his really expensive prescription drug plan.....and I say that as a Bush supporter.....
by the way, you know that line about not raising taxes on ppl who make under 250k?
you can throw that out now....
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Looking at a glass of vodka TBH after today.
drink up at your defeat my friend....there are more defeats coming at you soon....your ass-kicking isn't over
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its not up for debate andre, it is a tax increase...that is why it was upheld...
b/c the court viewed the mandate as a tax.
bringing up bush is just petty deflecting against the fact that obama signed the biggest tax increase in the history of the US into law
and did so in the middle of a recession...
it saves us money in the long run..can't you see that???....and it makes our country so much better because now we are talking care of healthcare for everyone...and soon guys won't be able to run to the emergency room and incur astronomical costs including me
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it saves us money in the long run..can't you see that???....and it makes our country so much better because now we are talking care of healthcare for everyone...and soon guys won't be able to run to the emergency room and incur astronomical costs including me
LOL really, you do know that the CBO doubled their estimate of its cost right?
youre delusional if you think that this will drive down the cost of health care.
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LOL really, you do know that the CBO doubled their estimate of its cost right?
youre delusional if you think that this will drive down the cost of health care.
I guess time will tell....we won't know the full effects of this legislation for maybe ten to fifteen yeas or so.....by then you will be old and glad you have universal healthcare..LOL
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drink up at your defeat my friend....there are more defeats coming at you soon....your ass-kicking isn't over
Really!! The Dems passed this two years ago and got DESTROYED in the midterms.
Who's to say we aren't due for a sequel, especially since (despite the predictions of Pelosi and others), this law has only been LOATHED more, since 2010?
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I love how illiterate morons like andre and fagbear cheer this on for the sole reason that it's the messiah. Had bush passed a mess like this they would be in the streets.
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I love how illiterate morons like andre and fagbear cheer this on for the sole reason that it's the messiah. Had bush passed a mess like this they would be in the streets.
Bush would never consider health care for the average American.
Too busy giving the rich tax cuts during two wars.
You lose again.
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Bush would never consider health care for the average American.
Too busy giving the rich tax cuts during two wars.
You lose again.
Average American is not getting anything from this but worse coverage and higher costs.
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Bush would never consider health care for the average American.
Too busy giving the rich tax cuts during two wars.
You lose again.
who do you think this tax is going to hit gare?
the rich already have health care, the poor already have their health care subsidized...
The average american is the one that is going to end up paying for this.
how do you guys not see this?
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who do you think this tax is going to hit gare?
the rich already have health care, the poor are going to have their health care subsidized...
The average american is the one that is going to end up paying for this.
how do you guys not see this?
Take a guess at who pays the medical bills for those who are unable to pay now.
Look, I know you're angry that sick kids will be able to get insurance now, but that's probably just your Christian values.
By the way, your argument actually validates the point that the rich shouldn't get tax cuts while the middle class doesn't. But, I know, I know, you'll just scream 'socialism' at that argument or call it 'raising taxes' when someone gets their tax cut ended.
It's the same old thing and it's just boring anymore.
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I guess time will tell....we won't know the full effects of this legislation for maybe ten to fifteen yeas or so.....by then you will be old and glad you have universal healthcare..LOL
I wont be old in 10 or 15 years and this law will have changed many times by then b/c it simply isnt feasible.
This isnt universal health care by the way, just the largest tax increase in US history to fund a govt requirement of life in the US.
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I wont be old in 10 or 15 years and this law will have changed many times by then b/c it simply isnt feasible.
This isnt universal health care by the way, just the largest tax increase in US history to fund a govt requirement of life in the US.
You never miss Rush Limbaugh, do you?
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Take a guess at who pays the medical bills for those who are unable to pay now.
Look, I know you're angry that sick kids will be able to get insurance now, but that's probably just your Christian values.
By the way, your argument actually validates the point that the rich shouldn't get tax cuts while the middle class doesn't. But, I know, I know, you'll just scream 'socialism' at that argument or call it 'raising taxes' when someone gets their tax cut ended.
It's the same old thing and it's just boring anymore.
Your an idiot with zero understanding of this issue. Who runs to the ER for birth control?
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You never miss Rush Limbaugh, do you?
a response without a response, bravo!!!
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Your an idiot with zero understanding of this issue. Who runs to the ER for birth control?
Do you think having to buy car insurance in order to drive is unconstitutional?
Guess what, we're all on the road of health insurance before we are even born.
Your birth control "argument" makes no sense, btw.
At least get some wacko conspiracy theories to entertain us.
For instance, did Obama's Saudi handlers also use mind-control on Roberts when he was in Jr. High?
I'm not for sure that it happened, but until you disprove it, it's possible.
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a response without a response, bravo!!!
I have already responded to you, although you may have missed it.
Anyway, it's blatanly obvious that so many people come on this site and simply repeat what Limbaugh said earlier in the day.
It's a tad pathetic, wouldn't you say?
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Do you think having to buy car insurance in order to drive is unconstitutional?
Guess what, we're all on the road of health insurance before we are even born.
Your birth control "argument" makes no sense, btw.
At least get some wacko conspiracy theories to entertain us.
For instance, did Obama's Saudi handlers also use mind-control on Roberts when he was in Jr. High?
I'm not for sure that it happened, but until you disprove it, it's possible.
Hey idiot - yes you are a fucking illiterate moron.
YES OR NO - ARE YOU FORCED TO BUY A CAR AND GET A DRIVERS' LICENSE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
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Hey idiot - yes you are a fucking illiterate moron.
YES OR NO - ARE YOU FORCED TO BUY A CAR AND GET A DRIVERS' LICENSE BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
That went way over your head, didn't it?
I tried to have a logical argument with you, but I'm beginning to doubt that it's even possible.
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Take a guess at who pays the medical bills for those who are unable to pay now.
By the way, your argument actually validates the point that the rich shouldn't get tax cuts while the middle class doesn't. But, I know, I know, you'll just scream 'socialism' at that argument or call it 'raising taxes' when someone gets their tax cut ended.
so what youre saying is this will just cause the middle class to pay for others health care through a tax instead of medical bills?
I agree I think everyone should get tax cuts, to bad obama thinks he knows better
to think the govt needs more money is ridiculous, this ruling basically makes the govt a bigger spender than the entire private sector.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
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That went way over your head, didn't it?
I tried to have a logical argument with you, but I'm beginning to doubt that it's even possible.
No it went way over your head. You leftists simply don't grasp the fact that auto insurance requires an affirmative act of purchasing a car in order to be forced to purchase insurance. Also - the insurance is for the car and the owner.
With KenyaCare you are forced to purchase insurance solely for being born.
I know being an incompetent liberal idiot you don't grasp the distinction, but the two are vastly different.
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what did limbaugh say earlier in the day gare?
why is it wrong?
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No it went way over your head. You leftists simply don't grasp the fact that auto insurance requires an affirmative act of purchasing a car in order to be forced to purchase insurance. Also - the insurance is for the car and the owner.
With KenyaCare you are forced to purchase insurance solely for being born.
I know being an incompetent liberal idiot you don't grasp the distinction, but the two are vastly different.
Everyone who is alive is already driving.
I thought you could grasp that but I overestimated you.
How do you 'opt out' of needing healthcare at some point?
Do you think people are just going to sit at home with a tumor and 'suck it up' because they can't afford to go to the Dr?
Do you think a pedestrian victim of a hit and run is asked about his insurance before the hospital decides to admit him?
Jesus Christ, you are dense.
Guess what, buddy. They are going to go to the hospital.
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Everyone who is alive is already driving.
I thought you could grasp that but I overestimated you.
How do you 'opt out' of needing healthcare at some point?
Do you think people are just going to sit at home with a tumor and 'suck it up' because they can't afford to go to the Dr?
Do you think a pedestrian victim of a hit and run is asked about his insurance before the hospital decides to admit him?
Jesus Christ, you are dense.
Guess what, buddy. They are going to go to the hospital.
What grab bag of incompetence, ignorance, illiteracy, and general stupidity you are.
ARE YOU FORCED TO PURCHASE A CAR - YES OR NO?
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Really!! The Dems passed this two years ago and got DESTROYED in the midterms.
Who's to say we aren't due for a sequel, especially since (despite the predictions of Pelosi and others), this law has only been LOATHED more, since 2010?
come on McWay..you are smart enough to know that the party in power ALWAYS gets destroyed in midterm elections...
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I love how illiterate morons like andre and fagbear cheer this on for the sole reason that it's the messiah. Had bush passed a mess like this they would be in the streets.
we cheer it on because it makes sense for a great nation like ours to provide access to healthcare for everyone
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who do you think this tax is going to hit gare?
the rich already have health care, the poor already have their health care subsidized...
The average american is the one that is going to end up paying for this.
how do you guys not see this?
then it should fit right in with your agenda since you guys believe that the rich should not pay for anything anymore
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Take a guess at who pays the medical bills for those who are unable to pay now.
Look, I know you're angry that sick kids will be able to get insurance now, but that's probably just your Christian values.
By the way, your argument actually validates the point that the rich shouldn't get tax cuts while the middle class doesn't. But, I know, I know, you'll just scream 'socialism' at that argument or call it 'raising taxes' when someone gets their tax cut ended.
It's the same old thing and it's just boring anymore.
same thing I just said...good job
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Do you think having to buy car insurance in order to drive is unconstitutional?
Guess what, we're all on the road of health insurance before we are even born.
Your birth control "argument" makes no sense, btw.
At least get some wacko conspiracy theories to entertain us.
For instance, did Obama's Saudi handlers also use mind-control on Roberts when he was in Jr. High?
I'm not for sure that it happened, but until you disprove it, it's possible.
this is why I love this ruling by the supreme court...no one on here or in the conservative circles of America can say that it was enacted by an activist liberal court...notice the Republicans have not brought this up in their arguments like they usually do?
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this is a huge accomplishment that will go down in history as one of the greatest legislative achievements in American history......Obama got it done....something many presidents wanted badly but could not accomplish
A huge accomplishment? The majority of Americans wanted it repealed and hate it. Congrats on passing something no one likes.
Stupid fucking sheeple like you are why this country is bankrupt.
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A huge accomplishment? The majority of Americans wanted it repealed and hate it. Congrats on passing something no one likes.
Stupid fucking sheeple like you are why this country is bankrupt.
idiot.....all polls show that Americans like the provisions of Obama's plan....maybe the reason they seem to dislike it is because of the non-stop propaganda against it by the Republicans......also... .the plan is not perfect but neither were Social Security and Medicaid when they were passed
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idiot.....all polls show that Americans like the provisions of Obama's plan....maybe the reason they seem to dislike it is because of the non-stop propaganda against it by the Republicans......also... .the plan is not perfect but neither were Social Security and Medicaid when they were passed
STFU you welfare whore. You who likes this? welfare thugs, dopers, leeches, parasites, 95ers, and the filth of society who dont contribute anything.
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STFU you welfare whore. You who likes this? welfare thugs, dopers, leeches, parasites, 95ers, and the filth of society who dont contribute anything.
add fake lawyers to that group as well
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then it should fit right in with your agenda since you guys believe that the rich should not pay for anything anymore
YAY TALKING POINTS!!!!
actually I believe that everyone should get a tax cut as the govt is an inefficient and has many pointless programs.
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YAY TALKING POINTS!!!!
actually I believe that everyone should get a tax cut as the govt is an inefficient and has many pointless programs.
all governments in the world are inefficient.....thats not news....you guys believe that the gov't should be run like a business and it would save billions of dollars...not true
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all governments in the world are inefficient.....thats not news....you guys believe that the gov't should be run like a business and it would save billions of dollars...not true
??? If the government was run like a good business the government would not be dealing with billions and trillions of debt and deficits.
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??? If the government was run like a good business the government would not be dealing with billions and trillions of debt and deficits.
businesses don't have constitutions they have to abide by
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come on McWay..you are smart enough to know that the party in power ALWAYS gets destroyed in midterm elections...
Not really!! Bush and the GOP gained seats in 2002.
Plus, no party in the last 70 years plus got murdered the way the Dems did in 2010.
And, ObamaCare was the driving issue behind it. Now, Obama has to explain why he raised taxes on the middle class, something he swore he wouldn't do. Good luck with that!!
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businesses don't have constitutions they have to abide by
Yes they do.
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idiot.....all polls show that Americans like the provisions of Obama's plan....maybe the reason they seem to dislike it is because of the non-stop propaganda against it by the Republicans......also... .the plan is not perfect but neither were Social Security and Medicaid when they were passed
The polls have shown nothing of the sort. They have loathed ObamaCare from its inception until now. The 2010 midterms proved that.
There's hardly a Democrat running that boasts about his/her voting for this garbage. Claire McCaskill is all but in the witness-protection program, because of this, as are several other Democrats.
The Dems haven't been able to sell this crap in over three years. You really think they're going to do so in four months, especially with the gaudy details of ObamaCare being exposed by the day?
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Yes they do.
Sure they do.
Profit.
By law.
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HEY YOU INCOMPETENT LEFTISTS SOCIALISTS COMMUNISTS AND TRAITORS SUPPORTING THUGCARE - THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE NOW SUPPORTING
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Consider the below examples I came up with now totally legitimate under Roberts’ treasonous decision. This does not even scratch the surface of the congress’ new powers:
Apple lobbies obama and the congress to force people to buy an ipad as part of an “education law” or face a tax penalty - legal
Ruger lobbies Romney to force Americans to buy firearms and take self defense classes under ‘anti-Crime” law or face a tax - legal
Chevy wants to recoup its losses from the bailout by lobbying congress to force us to buy a volt or face a tax - legal
Solyndra lobbies obama to force americans to buy its solar panels under new “Environmental Law” or face a tax - legal
NYSC lobbies Romney to force people to buy gym memberships under new “Anti-Obesity” law or face a tax - legal
Monsanto lobbies Obama to force american to buy tomatos, salads, etc under new “Safe Food” law or face a tax - legal
Trek lobbies the congress and president to force people to by a mountain bike as part of “anti-obesity” law or face a tax - legal
Valvoline lobbies president and congress to mandate proof of oil changes in your car every 4,000 miles as part of “transportation law” or face a tax - legal
American Standard lobbies president and congress to by new toilet bowl w new tech as part of “safe water” act or face a tax - legal
Johnson and Johnson lobbies congress to force women to use “green tampons” as part of a “environmental law” or face a tax, legal
National Assoc. of Realtors lobbies Romney and the Congress as part of a “Economic Growth Law” to force Homeowners to purchase mandatory home warranty for 5 years - Legal
See where this is going folks? Roberts is a traitor as he almost single handidly made us slaves this week to literally anything these thugs in the congress want to compel us into.
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http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.aspx?id=348450&type=newswires
Prices to skyrocket for everyone under 44 yo.
Great job you communist traitors and pieces of garbage celebrating this mess.
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http://insurancenewsnet.com/article.aspx?id=348450&type=newswires
Prices to skyrocket for everyone under 44 yo.
Great job you communist traitors and pieces of garbage celebrating this mess.
That would include all the college kids, half of whom are still flipping burgers AFTER they graduate. And guess what happens after they turn 26. OH, THAT'S RIGHT!! They STILL have to buy health insurance (which they may not be able to afford) or they get fined.
I guess Obama's next move is that you can stay on Mommy and Daddy's insurance, until you're 50. ::)
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businesses don't have constitutions they have to abide by
Neither does the US Government as evidenced by the Obamacare ruling.
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all governments in the world are inefficient.....thats not news....you guys believe that the gov't should be run like a business and it would save billions of dollars...not true
first of all why do you think it wouldnt save money?
second of all the govt is a business...it has revenues, expenses, assets, liabilities etc.
it provides a service to its citizens, why do you think the govt isnt a business?
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Plus, thanks to this boneheaded ruling, the Dems are in EVEN MORE TROUBLE. With ObamaCare being a tax, all the GOP has to do is get a SIMPLE (not super) majority of the Senate and the White House and ObamaCare is done. Reid becomes the minority leader. And McConnell can bring it up to the Senate floor.
Using the same reconciliation act that the Dems used to pass it, it gets repealed in both Houses. The Dems have over twice as many seats on the line with a host of vunerable Dems, sweating bullets.
And, word is, the left has all but given up any hope of retaking the House (as there, they also have more seats to defend than the GOP does).
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Roberts is dead to me. I see GWB and want to puke.
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Not really!! Bush and the GOP gained seats in 2002.
Plus, no party in the last 70 years plus got murdered the way the Dems did in 2010.
And, ObamaCare was the driving issue behind it. Now, Obama has to explain why he raised taxes on the middle class, something he swore he wouldn't do. Good luck with that!!
Actually Obama being black was the driving issue
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Neither does the US Government as evidenced by the Obamacare ruling.
tell that to your right-wing supreme court
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first of all why do you think it wouldnt save money?
second of all the govt is a business...it has revenues, expenses, assets, liabilities etc.
it provides a service to its citizens, why do you think the govt isnt a business?
Turning over gov't functions to private business hasn't worked....the fact that we will save money is a myth and if cost savings do arise it has to do with a high drop in the quality of services provided.....No American is going to tolerate a very low quality of service in exchange for saving money....its not worth it....
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That would include all the college kids, half of whom are still flipping burgers AFTER they graduate. And guess what happens after they turn 26. OH, THAT'S RIGHT!! They STILL have to buy health insurance (which they may not be able to afford) or they get fined.
I guess Obama's next move is that you can stay on Mommy and Daddy's insurance, until you're 50. ::)
Hey, McWay, are you really black?
Do you see the posts that the people you agree with make in other threads?
They throw the N word around all the time and say that black people should be forced to work in the sun. I've seen comments calling M. Obama a "shaved orangutang". I can't remember everything else, but I'm sure you've seen it.
Seriously, how do you get past something like that? How can you see something like that in one thread and then agree with that person on another thread? I just don't get it.
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Hey, McWay, are you really black?
Do you see the posts that the people you agree with make in other threads?
They throw the N word around all the time and say that black people should be forced to work in the sun. I've seen comments calling M. Obama a "shaved orangutang". I can't remember everything else, but I'm sure you've seen it.
Seriously, how do you get past something like that? How can you see something like that in one thread and then agree with that person on another thread? I just don't get it.
good point....and I see that a lot here at GetBig with people who claim to be unbiased and only siding on a particular issue strictly on the merits but they wind agreeing with and being in the same threads with the same people who make racist comments or start racists threads....
In all fairness, I have never seen McWay make an overtly racist comment but like mom used to say, you can often tell a person by the company he keeps.
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Turning over gov't functions to private business hasn't worked....the fact that we will save money is a myth and if cost savings do arise it has to do with a high drop in the quality of services provided.....No American is going to tolerate a very low quality of service in exchange for saving money....its not worth it....
what govt services have been turned over to private business?
do you now realize that the govt is a business, what you just described is called outsourcing.
Thats something a business does...
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Hey, McWay, are you really black?
Do you see the posts that the people you agree with make in other threads?
They throw the N word around all the time and say that black people should be forced to work in the sun. I've seen comments calling M. Obama a "shaved orangutang". I can't remember everything else, but I'm sure you've seen it.
Seriously, how do you get past something like that? How can you see something like that in one thread and then agree with that person on another thread? I just don't get it.
I guess no white person should be liberal then right?
did you see the stuff the black panther party said about white ppl, how can you agree on anything those ppl say?
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what govt services have been turned over to private business?
do you now realize that the govt is a business, what you just described is called outsourcing.
Thats something a business does...
outsourcing has been found to be a failure in many states......costs eventually go way up and services plunge way down....prisons that have out sourced are way undermanned to save money, are dangerous and have way more prisoners escaping
they also found that the inmates are treated horribly and taken advantage of sometimes as slave labor
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/anti-prison-privatization-group-opposes-floridas-prison-privatization-effort
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/world/asia/getting-tough-on-immigrants-to-turn-a-profit.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/02/opinion/when-it-comes-to-immigration-privatization-can-kill.html
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I guess no white person should be liberal then right?
did you see the stuff the black panther party said about white ppl, how can you agree on anything those ppl say?
who cares about the Black Panthers?....they have been destroyed as a group and no one pays any attention to them except left wing crazies....the black panthers aren't in the mainstream of society...unlike the Repubs and conservatives who spout racism both overt and covert all the time
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who ares about the Black Panthers?....they have been destroyed as a group and no one pays any attention to them except left wing crazies....the black panthers aren't in the mainstream of society...unlike the Repubs and conservatives who spout racism both overt and covert all the time
Really? The only people I see spouting racism are those who stand to gain from it. Jackson, Sharpton et al.
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they also found that the inmates are treated horribly and taken advantage of sometimes as slave labor
That's what prison should be about for serious crimes. We've got one not far from my house and when you drive by in the evening you can see all the tv's on in each of the cells. Fuck that. No TV, No radio, No Fun. You're not going to be rehabilitated, it's hasn't been shown to work.
Do some hard time with some hard ass work.
Non serious crimes...I can see your point.
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who ares about the Black Panthers?....they have been destroyed as a group and no one pays any attention to them except left wing crazies....the black panthers aren't in the mainstream of society...unlike the Repubs and conservatives who spout racism both overt and covert all the time
LOL what posters on this board are main stream reps?
what main stream reps are spouting racist comments?
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outsourcing has been found to be a failure in many states......costs eventually go way up and services plunge way down....prisons that have out sourced are way undermanned to save money, are dangerous and have way more prisoners escaping
they also found that the inmates are treated horribly and taken advantage of sometimes as slave labor
http://www.sunshinestatenews.com/blog/anti-prison-privatization-group-opposes-floridas-prison-privatization-effort
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/29/world/asia/getting-tough-on-immigrants-to-turn-a-profit.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/02/opinion/when-it-comes-to-immigration-privatization-can-kill.html
so you have a blog, an opinion piece from another country in which it admits that the studies out are conflicting and another opinion piece about another country?
LOL I can see why you have these believes about the US ::)
gezz louise
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Really? The only people I see spouting racism are those who stand to gain from it. Jackson, Sharpton et al.
your comment is amazing in its stupidity....you make a half truth.....the conservatives use racism all the time both overt and covert in their campaigns......Questioni ng Obama's citizenship is one covert tactic....Ronald Reagan's "welfare queen" theme in his campaign.....Newt echoed the same when he said black people should get off the public dole (conveniently neglecting that the vast number of people far and away on public benefits are white)....many others out there I could mention but I don't want to bore you
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That's what prison should be about for serious crimes. We've got one not far from my house and when you drive by in the evening you can see all the tv's on in each of the cells. Fuck that. No TV, No radio, No Fun. You're not going to be rehabilitated, it's hasn't been shown to work.
Do some hard time with some hard ass work.
Non serious crimes...I can see your point.
I see your point as well....but I think the vast majority of people in jail are not there for serious crimes.....also I think TV and radio and the weightlifting and such are used to actually CONTROL inmates.....while the inmates are doing those things, they aren't plotting to hurt the guards or actually engaging in violence against guards or other inmates..I'm not for prisoner's rights..just saying
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so you have a blog, an opinion piece from another country in which it admits that the studies out are conflicting and another opinion piece about another country?
LOL I can see why you have these believes about the US ::)
gezz louise
I just wanted you to get a general gist....the articles for the US were too long...I didn't want you to have a long read...I value your time. Its Sunday :)
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I just wanted you to get a general gist....the articles for the US were too long...I didn't want you to have a long read...I value your time. Its Sunday :)
LOL I see, thanks for the love
Ill have time though so why not post those articles.
do you understand that the govt is indeed a business?
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LOL I see, thanks for the love
Ill have time though so why not post those articles.
do you understand that the govt is indeed a business?
Bullshit - to thugs like andre, straw, blackass, benny, etc - the Govt exists to act as an agent and a proxy to steal working peoples' money so they can get free shit without having to do the dirty work themselves.
Why else do you think these locusts vote for people like obama?
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Bullshit - to thugs like andre, straw, blackass, benny, etc - the Govt exists to act as an agent and a proxy to steal working peoples' money so they can get free shit without having to do the dirty work themselves.
Why else do you think these locusts vote for people like obama?
on getbig 24/7 140 + post a day,is that considered working people :D :D :D :D :D :D
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LOL I see, thanks for the love
Ill have time though so why not post those articles.
do you understand that the govt is indeed a business?
mo its not a business because if it were no one would be taken care of...it would be based on your productivity to society.....there would be no social security for old folks sitting around...there would be no welfare for those out of work...and there would be no due process....which is what is missing when gov't privatizes....fairness and lawfulness gets thrown out the window..black people know this more than anyone hence why you cannot leave things up to the individual states either..the feds have to regulate things to make sure EVERYONE is treated fairly
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mo its not a business because if it were no one would be taken care of...it would be based on your productivity to society.....there would be no social security for old folks sitting around...there would be no welfare for those out of work...and there would be no due process....which is what is missing when gov't privatizes....fairness and lawfulness gets thrown out the window..black people know this more than anyone hence why you cannot leave things up to the individual states either..the feds have to regulate things to make sure EVERYONE is treated fairly
No wonder we are heading for the abyss w welfarists like yourself.
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Bullshit - to thugs like andre, straw, blackass, benny, etc - the Govt exists to act as an agent and a proxy to steal working peoples' money so they can get free shit without having to do the dirty work themselves.
Why else do you think these locusts vote for people like obama?
yes it goes for all the "free shit" like the huge pensions police and firemen get, and the big subsidies the rich get for shit they were going to do anyway.....
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on getbig 24/7 140 + post a day,is that considered working people :D :D :D :D :D :D
LOL..you absolutely cannot have a job when you are averaging 42 posts a DAY!!!!!...I on the other hand average almost three
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yes it goes for all the "free shit" like the huge pensions police and firemen get, and the big subsidies the rich get for shit they were going to do anyway.....
You know my position on those things. Public sectors should not have unions or defined benefit pensions.
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You know my position on those things. Public sectors should not have unions or defined benefit pensions.
should the cops and firefighters have unions???
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should the cops and firefighters have unions???
Fuck no!
Are you kidding? Cops are the worst abusers of all.
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your comment is amazing in its stupidity....you make a half truth.....the conservatives use racism all the time both overt and covert in their campaigns......Questioni ng Obama's citizenship is one covert tactic....Ronald Reagan's "welfare queen" theme in his campaign.....Newt echoed the same when he said black people should get off the public dole (conveniently neglecting that the vast number of people far and away on public benefits are white)....many others out there I could mention but I don't want to bore you
Its stupid? Who gains the most with racism? I can guaran-fucking-tee you Jackson and Sharpton did not make their money with hard work. But whatever, I'm done with "insert what ever here"-Americans, you an American or your not
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Fuck no!
Are you kidding? Cops are the worst abusers of all.
you finally said something true..but yet you focus on the little guy getting $22.50 every two weeks
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mo its not a business because if it were no one would be taken care of...it would be based on your productivity to society.....there would be no social security for old folks sitting around...there would be no welfare for those out of work...and there would be no due process....which is what is missing when gov't privatizes....fairness and lawfulness gets thrown out the window..black people know this more than anyone hence why you cannot leave things up to the individual states either..the feds have to regulate things to make sure EVERYONE is treated fairly
goodness gracious I dont even know where to start with this stupidity.
Let me ask you this andre, are non profit companies businesses?
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goodness gracious I dont even know where to start with this stupidity.
Let me ask you this andre, are non profit companies businesses?
in a sense I guess.....but again not in the usual sense of the word..there is a lot of waste in non-profits......businesses would not tolerate that
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in a sense I guess.....but again not in the usual sense of the word..there is a lot of waste in non-profits......businesses would not tolerate that
LOL there is a ton of waste in most businesses...
so if non profit companies are businesses how do they differ form the govt?
do me a favor and define what a business is for you, please.
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LOL there is a ton of waste in most businesses...
so if non profit companies are businesses how do they differ form the govt?
do me a favor and define what a business is for you, please.
you just contradicted yourself...you want to privatize and run the gov't like a business yet you admit that even businesses have waste.....therefore the gov't will always have waste no matter what and will have even poorer service to its citizens to boot......
sorry..you can't get out of this one
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you just contradicted yourself...you want to privatize and run the gov't like a business yet you admit that even businesses have waste.....therefore the gov't will always have waste no matter what and will have even poorer service to its citizens to boot......
sorry..you can't get out of this one
hahah I never said private businesses dont have wasteful spending. They do generally speaking have much much less than govt agencies though. Think about it like this, if a company has say 2% wasteful spending a smaller company is going to have much less by virtue of being smaller.
So the smaller company while it may have waste will still have much less than a larger company.
please answer my questions andre
so if non profit companies are businesses how do they differ form the govt?
do me a favor and define what a business is for you, please.
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Bump for andre
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Bump for andre
dude...we are never going back to small gov't...face that right now....Republicans and conservatives have abandoned low taxes and low spending..its all rhetoric now.....Conservatives have had a huge hand in getting us where we are today in terms of big gov't....libs have do it too but at least they are honest about it
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dude...we are never going back to small gov't...face that right now....Republicans and conservatives have abandoned low taxes and low spending..its all rhetoric now.....Conservatives have had a huge hand in getting us where we are today in terms of big gov't....libs have do it too but at least they are honest about it
First off neither is honest, obama said he would cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term ::)
second never said the reps werent equally responsible for getting us here.
Third, this is now about educating you soooooooooo please answer the questions.
so if non profit companies are businesses how do they differ form the govt?
and since you believe govt is not a business please define a business