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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Viking11 on July 04, 2012, 02:44:20 PM
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If you're under 40 this thread is probably irrelevant and won't resonate with you, but for anyone who had competed, juiced or just trained with suicidal intensity in the past. If you had ok potential, a lot of strength and drive even while off, but could possibly blow up and do some interesting things if you "upped the dose" or started slamming down a gram or two a day of various goodies. Would you? Not interested in the it will shorten your life/ yeah it could but you lose the worst years. At 52, every year pretty much sucks worse than the one before. 2000 was the peak. Looking at having some fun before the whole shitty thing goes South. Some will get this, some won't, I fully realize.
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pretty much been thinkin of doing that for awhile,planning on doing 10 shows in a row next year,and livin like a pro for 6 months to a year just to see what happens,will be 48 when i do it.
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If you're under 40 this thread is probably irrelevant and won't resonate with you, but for anyone who had competed, juiced or just trained with suicidal intensity in the past. If you had ok potential, a lot of strength and drive even while off, but could possibly blow up and do some interesting things if you "upped the dose" or started slamming down a gram or two a day of various goodies. Would you? Not interested in the it will shorten your life/ yeah it could but you lose the worst years. At 52, every year pretty much sucks worse than the one before. 2000 was the peak. Looking at having some fun before the whole shitty thing goes South. Some will get this, some won't, I fully realize.
53 here, it is like there is limited time for one last hurray. Great post btw.
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This is America today: 50+ adolescents who refuse to grow up.
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Go for it,why wonder how good you could have been once it`s too late.
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This is America today: 50+ adolescents who refuse to grow up.
Asshole post lol
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Why not? Your body will start looking like shit in your 60's anyway, with or without juice, so do it if you want.
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just curious since i see so many of you guys over or close to fifty on this post how much of and what kind of test or androgen could you take in your latter years to maintain a stallone like build an still maintain good health, I know its a broad question but im wondering from your experiences.
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http://www.nebido.com/
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yeah dude why not?
this is what we love right? i'd rather live 50-60 awesome years than grind out 70-80 mediocre ones.
for me it isnt about "getting massive', now its about quality and shape and condition. and what i find odd is that since starting gh i am running 1/3-1/2 less gear than ran in my 'big' days, but look way better. thats my goal. to be better every year. and that takes on more meaning when you hit your 40's for sure. its a challenge then. something to drive you. i wasnt been this driven to look good even in my 20's. but despite reducing my gear, if i needed to take more to get the look i wanted rest assured i would. no problem. i get my bloodwork done and have a bit of resiliency health wise so far to anabolics so theres really nothing that would make me think to myself 'ah, maybe i should taper back for my health'.
if your goal is to be bigger, stronger, leaner or whatever, and you can keep healthy and you need to up the dose then hell yeah run that shit dude.
good luck.
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just curious since i see so many of you guys over or close to fifty on this post how much of and what kind of test or androgen could you take in your latter years to maintain a stallone like build an still maintain good health, I know its a broad question but im wondering from your experiences.
low dose test. low dose gh. the fountain of youth drugs.
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This is America today: 50+ adolescents who refuse to grow up.
Every little thing seems to bother you little man. Puberty must be tough for you to go through.
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will be 44 next wk 7/13 feel awesome,training is like 20/30's if not better,mix things up more now than when i was younger afraid to deviate from sets/reps/order.lean and diet clean enough without killing myself,zero cardio,,,,
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will be 44 next wk 7/13 feel awesome,training is like 20/30's if not better,mix things up more now than when i was younger afraid to deviate from sets/reps/order.lean and diet clean enough without killing myself,zero cardio,,,,
The last 8-10 years made a huge difference for me. Harder to train though the pains and injuries. You can't keep it from getting to you some. Especially when you have the desire and are strong as hell.
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The last 8-10 years made a huge difference for me. Harder to train though the pains and injuries. You can't keep it from getting to you some. Especially when you have the desire and are strong as hell.
well yeah,,and yeah its hard sometimes to do every workout and not want to go heavier or add reps,,instead u hit a heavy weight and when your reps run out drop it grab some less weight dumbell or strip bar and rep. have to keep joints injury free or at least less stress placed on them.i like to pump over lets get heavy ,,legs i tend to go up and over due to them being a strong point.
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My favorite part is the script for Watson test cyp! Getting old is not all bad. ;D
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Every little thing seems to bother you little man. Puberty must be tough for you to go through.
Yeah, well last time I checked China owns the USA, and this nonsense is what is on the minds of so-called men.
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Yeah, well last time I checked China owns the USA, and this nonsense is what is on the minds of so-called men.
Pussy seems to always be on my mind. That is until dementia kicks in.
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Gym**rat and Your Average GymRat seem to be always throwing jabs at each other. Now who's copying who's user name?
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Gym**rat and Your Average GymRat seem to be always throwing jabs at each other. Now who's copying who's user name?
I have been here since Oct. 2004. YAGR wasn't even born yet. I have no issue with him, it is just a gym rat thang! ;D
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Some people just doesn't give a shit and go for it (G.Strydom): (http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/72871_10150827722881277_1812155879_n.jpg)
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im 36 now, run test half the year with gh , look like im 28 but the greys are coming in boy!! im going the g.c route and aint dying shit.. at the risk of sounding arrogant, I see 20 year olds every day that would do me in a heartbeat, sadly thats my only esteem booster, lol !!
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I just turned 47 last week, and have no intentions of slowing down. I don't bang out 4-6 reps bone crushing sets like i used to...but i don't have to....years of doing that have given me thickness that never seems to go away. Now it's 12-8 reps, just as intense, but with a different goal..it's all bout refinement...like no one said. i look better now than I did at 30.
still run a measly 350 mgs of tren a week, period. thinking of throwing some test prop in the mix.
what the fuck China has to do with my physique, and the whopping 5 hours a week i'm at the gym, i guess only YAGR knows.
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im 36 now, run test half the year with gh , look like im 28 but the greys are coming in boy!! im going the g.c route and aint dying shit.. at the risk of sounding arrogant, I see 20 year olds every day that would do me in a heartbeat, sadly thats my only esteem booster, lol !!
Chief, this post exposes your screen name as clear as day.
Btw, I talked to the 20yros... they said they were humoring you and/or spotting a "guy" behind you who doesn't crown like a Costanza.
;D
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strydom looking sick there. great conditioning. he may be up for some add'l risk from using whatever as he's past 50.
But he lives like he's 18... the good life.
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strydom looking sick there. great conditioning. he may be up for some add'l risk from using whatever as he's past 50.
But he lives like he's 18... the good life.
Outing.... of Strydomiration. :-X
;D
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a great day in tampa was had by all. The biggest impression from that show was "WOW, 2 HOURS of the female BBing before the mens finals?"
Everyone at that show, crowd, etc was built like a brick shithouse.
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strydom looking sick there. great conditioning. he may be up for some add'l risk from using whatever as he's past 50.
But he lives like he's 18... the good life.
Dude's really having his time. That's how it should be. Of course - genetics must play a role I guess (as in resilience to injurys, resilience to sides of various stuff he's taking).
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I think the joints are of greater concern after 50.....not kidding.
says Dr Dutch
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Up the dosage........you only go around once,this isn`t a dress rehearsal!
I`m competing this November and I WILL look better than I ever have before at 57........if not,I`ll still look better than 99 3/4 of the 25 year old kids walking around in anygymUSA.
It`s nice to be as old as I am and have abs,vascularity,power,stamina, etc.,while the rest of the crew at my age is sitting around contemplating their next run to Dunkin Donuts.
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smoke a joint to relieve the pain of the joints
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smoke a joint to relieve the pain of the joints
I deja-vu'd this response of yours almost 100% correctly... 8)
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Up the dosage........you only go around once,this isn`t a dress rehearsal!
I`m competing this November and I WILL look better than I ever have before at 57........if not,I`ll still look better than 99 3/4 of the 25 year old kids walking around in anygymUSA.
It`s nice to be as old as I am and have abs,vascularity,power,stamina, etc.,while the rest of the crew at my age is sitting around contemplating their next run to Dunkin Donuts.
Wes, what is your favorite Dunkin Donut, I love the chocolate cream powdered ones. I think my next run is right about................... ........................ .....NOW!
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(http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/022011/weird-couple-rec.jpg)
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(http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/022011/weird-couple-rec.jpg)
Now those are some cankles. I bet pumped they are a solid 22".
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Yeah, well last time I checked China owns the USA, and this nonsense is what is on the minds of so-called men.
Well, this is a bodybuilding board you stupid fuck. You want to solve the world's problems then join the fuckin U.N.
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Up the dosage........you only go around once,this isn`t a dress rehearsal!
I`m competing this November and I WILL look better than I ever have before at 57........if not,I`ll still look better than 99 3/4 of the 25 year old kids walking around in anygymUSA.
It`s nice to be as old as I am and have abs,vascularity,power,stamina, etc.,while the rest of the crew at my age is sitting around contemplating their next run to Dunkin Donuts.
That's the spirit!!
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I can't see juicing in your 50's but that's just me. If you have a health problem your physique will be over forever. In my mind it's time to train for health and fitness. Going off juice for a decent period after a heavy cycle is hard in your 20's. Going off in your 50's would make your body look like you never worked out in your life. Can you imagine what your body would look like in your 50's after going off cycle for 4 months?
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If you're under 40 this thread is probably irrelevant and won't resonate with you, but for anyone who had competed, juiced or just trained with suicidal intensity in the past. If you had ok potential, a lot of strength and drive even while off, but could possibly blow up and do some interesting things if you "upped the dose" or started slamming down a gram or two a day of various goodies. Would you? Not interested in the it will shorten your life/ yeah it could but you lose the worst years. At 52, every year pretty much sucks worse than the one before. 2000 was the peak. Looking at having some fun before the whole shitty thing goes South. Some will get this, some won't, I fully realize.
If you are already a hunk and looking to maintain then go for it. But if you're starting from scratch at 52 and looking to muscle up from zero I do not think it is worth it. Your gains will be minimal and the risk to your health are substantial. If you haven't already adopted eating and training habits to get in shape by 52 the probability that you could do so now is very small. Obviously, someone like Tony Pandolfo or Bernie Cooper can look good because they are maintaining already great physiques. I think you would be very hard pressed to find before and after pictures of a dude who starting training at 50 and became a muscle hunk a few years later.
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Outing.... of Strydomiration. :-X
;D
No offense Rob, but this pic makes you look like the biggest douche in history.
Probably a good thing you carry that Glock everywhere.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=430280.0;attach=475360;image)
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Wes, what is your favorite Dunkin Donut, I love the chocolate cream powdered ones. I think my next run is right about................... ........................ .....NOW!
Apple cinnamon,no question. :D
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Up the dosage........you only go around once,this isn`t a dress rehearsal!
I`m competing this November and I WILL look better than I ever have before at 57........if not,I`ll still look better than 99 3/4 of the 25 year old kids walking around in anygymUSA.
It`s nice to be as old as I am and have abs,vascularity,power,stamina, etc.,while the rest of the crew at my age is sitting around contemplating their next run to Dunkin Donuts.
WORD.
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I can't see juicing in your 50's but that's just me. If you have a health problem your physique will be over forever. In my mind it's time to train for health and fitness. Going off juice for a decent period after a heavy cycle is hard in your 20's. Going off in your 50's would make your body look like you never worked out in your life. Can you imagine what your body would look like in your 50's after going off cycle for 4 months?
Why the fuck would you go off the cycle in your 50's if no health probs? To have a few more (crippled and feeling like shit) years?
For each his own I guess...
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No offense Rob, but this pic makes you look like the biggest douche in history.
Probably a good thing you carry that Glock everywhere.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=430280.0;attach=475360;image)
looks like the cast for pre-production of 3 amigos 2 the orange chicken yrs,,,,
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(http://legacy-cdn.smosh.com/smosh-pit/022011/weird-couple-rec.jpg)
MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=430280.0;attach=475360;image)
I wonder what Ron's eyes look like.
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Mr Cooper is one of my heroes....
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=430280.0;attach=475380;image)
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If you are already a hunk and looking to maintain then go for it. But if you're starting from scratch at 52 and looking to muscle up from zero I do not think it is worth it. Your gains will be minimal and the risk to your health are substantial. If you haven't already adopted eating and training habits to get in shape by 52 the probability that you could do so now is very small. Obviously, someone like Tony Pandolfo or Bernie Cooper can look good because they are maintaining already great physiques. I think you would be very hard pressed to find before and after pictures of a dude who starting training at 50 and became a muscle hunk a few years later.
Fella looks like a boss, damn. Tho'he started AGAIN after a long lay off at about 50yo btw. Not the same as a compelet newb, but still..
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(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/0baf2f3f.jpg). Off for 4 months.
Anyway, back to the point- great feedback- I like the go for it, but thoughtful approach. I haven't run anything in 4 months, but once I do, it would be something like test/equipoise 350/300 for the first run, just to get in better shape, then a more hardcore bulk cycle 2 gr total- test, deca, anadrol, cruise for 8 weeks on HRT and PCT then a 2 gram total cutting cycle - test, anavar, tren, eq. I think all that with a strict high protein - carb cycling diet combined with some hard ass training would put me decent shape by next summer. Any tweaks?
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(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/0baf2f3f.jpg). Off for 4 months.
Anyway, back to the point- great feedback- I like the go for it, but thoughtful approach. I haven't run anything in 4 months, but once I do, it would be something like test/equipoise 350/300 for the first run, just to get in better shape, then a more hardcore bulk cycle 2 gr total- test, deca, anadrol, cruise for 8 weeks on HRT and PCT then a 2 gram total cutting cycle - test, anavar, tren, eq. I think all that with a strict high protein - carb cycling diet combined with some hard ass training would put me decent shape by next summer. Any tweaks?
good wheels ,,,
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man I would be carefull where you take these pics in public..did you inform the neighbourhood your a sexual predator? lol..
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man I would be carefull where you take these pics in public..did you inform the neighbourhood your a sexual predator? lol..
well if he had a piece of candy or icecream cone in hand then maybe,,
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Was that too immodest? So hard to take a decent leg pic!
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(http://i1175.photobucket.com/albums/r630/intenceman/0baf2f3f.jpg). Off for 4 months.
Anyway, back to the point- great feedback- I like the go for it, but thoughtful approach. I haven't run anything in 4 months, but once I do, it would be something like test/equipoise 350/300 for the first run, just to get in better shape, then a more hardcore bulk cycle 2 gr total- test, deca, anadrol, cruise for 8 weeks on HRT and PCT then a 2 gram total cutting cycle - test, anavar, tren, eq. I think all that with a strict high protein - carb cycling diet combined with some hard ass training would put me decent shape by next summer. Any tweaks?
tweaks? ya- throw the whole fucking plan in the garbage.
this whole post make absolutely no sense to me. start at 600. jump 3.5x time to 2G go off for 8 weeks. then jump to 2G again. and in there manage to use every single compound you can get your hands on it seems.
your over 50, right? you've been doing this (using anabolics) a long time i presume, correct?
what test works best for you- ie what ester (ie my body prefers prop or sustanon- i say prefer as i hold less water on these compounds). take the ester and run that shit year round. period. run it at the same dose your going to run it in your heavy cycle. me, i dont see the need to use more than 500-700mg a week of test in my runs. next- what compounds do you react best to? eq? tren? winny? what the fuck is this 20 compound run for? take the compounds your body responds best to and add those in with the test. then, pick a dose ceiling and run it year round. why the up down up down up down., what a fucking waste.
you'll get better results running the compounds your body responds best to running them year round at say 1/2 the dose of the 2 g mark with a little gh then you will putting your body through all that up down up down up down cycle pct up down bullshit. forget this whole diet at this time of year bullshit too- carb cycle in spring , bulking in fall blah blah blah- the 80's called the want their diet back. give your body the cals it needs to grow lean tissue every day. do a little cardio to keep lean. thats it. what the fuck is it with all the unnecessary rocket science?
its easier on your body, less complicated and the gains will be more solid imo.
good luck.
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btw the value of that post is that it's a template you can use to look great for the rest of your life- day in and day out, not just for a few weeks of the year and then end up back at square one.
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go for it
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I just turned 47 last week, and have no intentions of slowing down. I don't bang out 4-6 reps bone crushing sets like i used to...but i don't have to....years of doing that have given me thickness that never seems to go away. Now it's 12-8 reps, just as intense, but with a different goal..it's all bout refinement...like no one said. i look better now than I did at 30.
still run a measly 350 mgs of tren a week, period. thinking of throwing some test prop in the mix.
what the fuck China has to do with my physique, and the whopping 5 hours a week i'm at the gym, i guess only YAGR knows.
bullshit
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=430280.0;attach=475355;image)
epic gh bloatface of peace.
jk bro, you look late 30s at best, the drugs are doing miracles for your aging.
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tweaks? ya- throw the whole fucking plan in the garbage.
LOL ;D
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LOL ;D
lol in my haste to help someone I sometimes get a little over passionate. :D
was at the gym the other day- there was this 13 year old or so kid there doing seated chest press. had the seat way down so the whole movement he's pushing w his delts. I walked by him and didn't say anything, got a drink out of the water fountain came back and said 'get up'. lol he looks at me and jumps out of the machine looking at me like he doesn't know what's going on. I say 'raise the seat up. handles level with your lower chest. all your doing is working your delts' and walked away. poor kid I think I scared the shit out of him. but my heart was in the right place. :)
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lol in my haste to help someone I sometimes get a little over passionate. :D
was at the gym the other day- there was this 13 year old or so kid there doing seated chest press. had the seat way down so the whole movement he's pushing w his delts. I walked by him and didn't say anything, got a drink out of the water fountain came back and said 'get up'. lol he looks at me and jumps out of the machine looking at me like he doesn't know what's going on. I say 'raise the seat up. handles level with your lower chest. all your doing is working your delts' and walked away. poor kid I think I scared the shit out of him. but my heart was in the right place. :)
LMFAO!!
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lol in my haste to help someone I sometimes get a little over passionate. :D
was at the gym the other day- there was this 13 year old or so kid there doing seated chest press. had the seat way down so the whole movement he's pushing w his delts. I walked by him and didn't say anything, got a drink out of the water fountain came back and said 'get up'. lol he looks at me and jumps out of the machine looking at me like he doesn't know what's going on. I say 'raise the seat up. handles level with your lower chest. all your doing is working your delts' and walked away. poor kid I think I scared the shit out of him. but my heart was in the right place. :)
Kids probably gonna` be traumatized for life,but he`ll have a thick set of pecs!! :D
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47 yrs. The joints hurt from powerlifting/bodybuilding. Got the mass but not the cuts. Won titles as a teen, in my 20's and 30's....drug free.
But now i cant cut w/out losing alot of muscle, tried all kinds of plans over 10 yrs.
Decided to use some gear to help. low dose test enth 250mg with tren enth 150mg a week....3 weeks in on a 16 week cycle. Im not getting flat and stringy as i diet now and the pump is crazy even on low carbs. Im sold, it was the right time for me 8)
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47 yrs. The joints hurt from powerlifting/bodybuilding. Got the mass but not the cuts. Won titles as a teen, in my 20's and 30's....drug free.
But now i cant cut w/out losing alot of muscle, tried all kinds of plans over 10 yrs.
Decided to use some gear to help. low dose test enth 250mg with tren enth 150mg a week....3 weeks in on a 16 week cycle. Im not getting flat and stringy as i diet now and the pump is crazy even on low carbs. Im sold, it was the right time for me 8)
Deca really helps with the joint issues. I know that not being on it, my shoulder bothers me exponentially more. I'd add that if you can.
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This is America today: 50+ adolescents who refuse to grow up.
....and that's why we'll out live the ones who act their age. I always laugh at people when they tell me to "act your age". WTF is that supposed to mean?
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....and that's why we'll out live the ones who act their age. I always laugh at people when they tell me to "act your age". WTF is that supposed to mean?
Truth.
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....and that's why we'll out live the ones who act their age. I always laugh at people when they tell me to "act your age". WTF is that supposed to mean?
THIS
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....and that's why we'll out live the ones who act their age.
This. I'm going to be outLIVING my peers. I have no interest in simply outEXISTING them.
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If you're under 40 this thread is probably irrelevant and won't resonate with you, but for anyone who had competed, juiced or just trained with suicidal intensity in the past. If you had ok potential, a lot of strength and drive even while off, but could possibly blow up and do some interesting things if you "upped the dose" or started slamming down a gram or two a day of various goodies. Would you? Not interested in the it will shorten your life/ yeah it could but you lose the worst years. At 52, every year pretty much sucks worse than the one before. 2000 was the peak. Looking at having some fun before the whole shitty thing goes South. Some will get this, some won't, I fully realize.
intenceman - I say go for it.
I have a personal experience that relates to this interesting scenario you are spelling out here. I'm 44 and have gone under the knife 11 times in the last 12 years for shoulder and knee surgeries - most recently 2 shoulder surgeries in 13 months - those 2 shoulder surgeries happened when I was 42-43. Anyway my recovery was not going so well so I suggested to the dr that maybe I have low test or something. I actually did and I went on same of that shity androgel - and I stacked it with some anavar (some UGL product). Now keep in mind I've lifted since I was 14 and used to compete in my late teens and early 20's but never touched any juice. Well with the addition of the var and the androgel I gained about 25 lbs of muscle and am seeing definition I never saw while dieting naturally for competitions. After this I started thinking along the same lines you are - even thinking if I would have gone on back in the day I may not have even ended up with these injuries to my knee and shoulder and I may have been able to avoid all the surgeries (all the result of judo injuries that occurred in my 30's- judo is a young mans sport - ) all together - back then I was ignorant - I thought I could train clean and still do it all just like the guys who had some help.
So now I'm thinking of the same options you are outlining here. I want to go on something serious - test E / prop /deca stack and see what happens with the limited training I can still do - I'm ready for a knee replacement and I have some restriction with the active ROM in the repaired shoulder. I say go for it -- like other have said here - in your 60's your body really goes down hill and then you are really out of time. I hate feeling like I'm out of time but I have been feeling like that lately with many things.
Something else that really urks me. Why the fu&* does the government give a sh^& who takes steroids and why do people just those who decide to take? All we are doing is giving our bodied more of what we naturally produce. Currently I'm going to a Dr to try to get test injections and he's giving me a hard time with it. While on 4 pumps a day of the andro 1.62 my test is only @ 167 as of 3 weeks ago. He says TRT is highly monitored by the gov't especially in NJ. I'm just about to say f--it with trying to get the pharm grade stuff and just go hit an UGL for what I need.
Let me know how it goes and what you decide. I think there are a lot of people here in the same boat.
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AN update pic of Strydom:
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/528133_10150903750136277_572217855_n.jpg)
beast mode.
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AN update pic of Strydom:
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/528133_10150903750136277_572217855_n.jpg)
beast mode.
DUDE IS UNREAL...LONG TIME
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Lifting weight and doing cardio is important for health in you 50's.
What I normally see in the weight room is the pudgy bench guy who loves benches and curls. The guy who is still delusional about his physique being a permabulker who lifts heavy but couldn't run around a block without passing out. Then there's the guy that uses all types of drugs but somehow still manages to look like crap and no one would ever accuse him of even using steroids.
What a lot of guys forget and don't even realize they don't have is conditioning. You can have 400 horse power body but if you have a small gas tank you are going to gas. I use to box back in the day. It was always amusing when the muscle head came in and wanted to spar. Seeing the body beautiful in the ring with the string bean boxer was almost hard to watch his destruction.
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It's better to burn out than fade away