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Romney’s ‘You Didn’t Build That’ Attack Ad Stars Businessman Who Received Millions in Government Money
After the conservative blogosphere used a selectively edited Obama campaign speech to suggest that the president belittled the achievements of small business owners, the Romney campaign released an attack ad featuring New Hampshire small business owner Jack Gilchrist as a counterpoint.
In “These Hands,” the Romney campaign repeated the out-of-context quote, “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else did that.” Jack Gilchrist, the owner of Gilchrist Metal Fabricating in Hudson, New Hampshire, incredulously asks, “My father’s hands didn’t build this company? My hands didn’t build this company? My son’s hands aren’t building this company? …Through hard work and a little bit of luck, we built this business. Why are you demonizing us for it?”
In context, Obama’s speech was not “demonizing” small business owners but simply challenging the idea that wealthy and successful individuals have never benefited from government services.
And, as it turns out, Jack Gilchrist is no different. The New Hampshire Union Leader reports today that Gilchrist benefited from millions of dollars of government loans and contracts to get his business on its feet:
In 1999, Gilchrist Metal received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds issued by the New Hampshire Business Finance Authority “to set up a second manufacturing plant and purchase equipment to produce high definition television broadcasting equipment,” according to a New Hampshire Union Leader report at the time…
Last year, Gilchrist Metal also received two U.S. Navy sub-contracts totaling about $83,000 and a smaller $5,600 Coast Guard contract in 2008, according to a government web site that tracks spending.
Gilchrist wisely took advantage of these funds, which help small businesses like his survive in their early years. He also took a U.S. Small Business Administration loan in the late 1980s totaling “somewhere south of” $500,000, plus matching funds from the federally-funded New England Trade Adjustment Assistance Center.In a lesson on basic government spending that Romney himself could learn from, Gilchrist succinctly explained: “I’m not going to turn a blind eye because the money came from the government. As far as I’m concerned, I’m getting some of my tax money back. I’m not stupid, I’m not going to say ‘no.’ Shame on me if I didn’t use what’s available.”
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/23/570621/romneys-you-didnt-build-that-attack-ad-stars-businessman-who-received-millions-in-government-money/
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Solyndra anyone?
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Solyndra anyone?
so now team romney is just as fcking shitty and morally corrupt as obama's. Thank you.
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Solyndra anyone?
what's that got to do with this businessman claiming he had no help only to find out they probably wouldn't even be in business with a lot of help from the government
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what's that got to do with this businessman claiming he had no help only to find out they probably wouldn't even be in business with a lot of help from the government
Gilchrist got a lot of help from Clinton and Obama, ironically. Reagan too!
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Haha, now loans that must be paid back constitute not doing it on your own. You Obama drones will go to any lengths to swallow that load.
Oh well, no one gives two shits about a ThinkProgress article anyway. Obama is getting beat up and down the field on that quote. One would think the "World's Greatest Orator" wouldn't be so stupid as to make comments like that.
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This campaign is getting even more ridiculous than most.
I cant even bring myself to care anymore, theyre both crooks.
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This campaign is getting even more ridiculous than most.
I cant even bring myself to care anymore, theyre both crooks.
You have not seen anything yet. Wait. This mild compared where this circus act is going.
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This campaign is getting even more ridiculous than most.
I cant even bring myself to care anymore, theyre both crooks.
Has Obama laid out a single thing he would do if he were reelected? Why should I vote for some asshole with the worst track record in modern history and no game plan for the future?
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Has Obama laid out a single thing he would do if he were reelected? Why should I vote for some asshole with the worst track record in modern history and no game plan for the future?
Dont get me wrong, Im more than likely voting for Romney, simply because he actually somewhat talks about the issues rather than throwing out vague ideas or talking about how evil Mitt was because he ran a business.
My favorite is "We tried our way, and it worked".
Epic lulz.
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Dont get me wrong, Im more than likely voting for Romney, simply because he actually somewhat talks about the issues rather than throwing out vague ideas or talking about how evil Mitt was because he ran a business.
My favorite is "We tried our way, and it worked".
Epic lulz.
I probably won't vote for either of them but I'll take a Romney that has to be reelected over the wannabe Dictator.
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Dont get me wrong, Im more than likely voting for Romney, simply because he actually somewhat talks about the issues rather than throwing out vague ideas or talking about how evil Mitt was because he ran a business.
My favorite is "We tried our way, and it worked".
Epic lulz.
See - obama is actually being truthful though. His goal was to radically transform America from a free market society to a socialist country.
So when you consider tens of millions more on food stamps welfare, impoversihed, etc - he is actually right, at least according to his definition.
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Haha, now loans that must be paid back constitute not doing it on your own. You Obama drones will go to any lengths to swallow that load.
Oh well, no one gives two shits about a ThinkProgress article anyway. Obama is getting beat up and down the field on that quote. One would think the "World's Greatest Orator" wouldn't be so stupid as to make comments like that.
great job failing to understand (or more likely being ignorant of the fact) that without the government guarantee the loan never would have been made in the first place. The same goes for your student loans (if you have any) or 333's student loans. Without government subsidies for the rate and guarantees against defualt you never would have received the loan. 333 can literally thank the government for helping him to become the dumbest lawyer on the planet
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great job failing to understand (or more likely being ignorant of the fact) that without the government guarantee the loan never would have been made in the first place. The same goes for your student loans (if you have any) or 333's student loans. Without government subsidies for the rate and guarantees against defualt you never would have received the loan. 333 can literally thank the government for helping him to become the dumbest lawyer on the planet
LOL. Dumbest lawyers on the planet are not recruited by other lawyers to give CLE's on federal laws jackass.
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LOL. Dumbest lawyers on the planet are not recruited by other lawyers to give CLE's on federal laws jackass.
sure they are and don't forget to thank the government without which you would not be able to do that in the first place
you never would have gotten a loan for school without a government guarantee against default
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sure they are and don't forget to thank the government without which you would not be able to do that in the first place
you never would have gotten a loan for school without a government guarantee against default
Lol. I don't have loans fool. And did people go to college before the govt involved?
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Lol. I don't have loans fool. And did people go to college before the govt involved?
you already admitted you received student loans and ALL student loans are guaranteed against default by the government that you hate so much
so again, don't forget to thank your government for helping to put you in business
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so now team romney is just as fcking shitty and morally corrupt as obama's. Thank you.
Last time I checked "Team Romney" hasn't assassinated an American citizen.
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Romney’s ‘You Didn’t Build That’ Attack Ad Stars Businessman Who Received Millions in Government Money
After the conservative blogosphere used a selectively edited Obama campaign speech to suggest that the president belittled the achievements of small business owners, the Romney campaign released an attack ad featuring New Hampshire small business owner Jack Gilchrist as a counterpoint.
In “These Hands,” the Romney campaign repeated the out-of-context quote, “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else did that.” Jack Gilchrist, the owner of Gilchrist Metal Fabricating in Hudson, New Hampshire, incredulously asks, “My father’s hands didn’t build this company? My hands didn’t build this company? My son’s hands aren’t building this company? …Through hard work and a little bit of luck, we built this business. Why are you demonizing us for it?”
In context, Obama’s speech was not “demonizing” small business owners but simply challenging the idea that wealthy and successful individuals have never benefited from government services.
And, as it turns out, Jack Gilchrist is no different. The New Hampshire Union Leader reports today that Gilchrist benefited from millions of dollars of government loans and contracts to get his business on its feet:
In 1999, Gilchrist Metal received $800,000 in tax-exempt revenue bonds issued by the New Hampshire Business Finance Authority “to set up a second manufacturing plant and purchase equipment to produce high definition television broadcasting equipment,” according to a New Hampshire Union Leader report at the time…
Last year, Gilchrist Metal also received two U.S. Navy sub-contracts totaling about $83,000 and a smaller $5,600 Coast Guard contract in 2008, according to a government web site that tracks spending.
Gilchrist wisely took advantage of these funds, which help small businesses like his survive in their early years. He also took a U.S. Small Business Administration loan in the late 1980s totaling “somewhere south of” $500,000, plus matching funds from the federally-funded New England Trade Adjustment Assistance Center.In a lesson on basic government spending that Romney himself could learn from, Gilchrist succinctly explained: “I’m not going to turn a blind eye because the money came from the government. As far as I’m concerned, I’m getting some of my tax money back. I’m not stupid, I’m not going to say ‘no.’ Shame on me if I didn’t use what’s available.”
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/07/23/570621/romneys-you-didnt-build-that-attack-ad-stars-businessman-who-received-millions-in-government-money/
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Romney is a flat out liar
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Romney is a flat out liar
agreed and here is what I don't get
why lie about shit like this instead of just talking about the issues
all stuff like this does is make Romney look like a liar, actually a stupid liar because anyone who watches the full clip knows exactly what Obama said so it's just an insult to them to have Romney pretend otherwise.
It's like he is pretending his audience is stupid. It's actually an insult to his audiences intelligence
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agreed and here is what I don't get
why lie about shit like this instead of just talking about the issues
all stuff like this does is make Romney look like a liar, actually a stupid liar because anyone who watches the full clip knows exactly what Obama said so it's just an insult to them to have Romney pretend otherwise.
It's like he is pretending his audience is stupid. It's actually an insult to his audiences intelligence
It is an insult to his audiences intelligence.
What does that say about his supporters?
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It is an insult to his audiences intelligence.
What does that say about his supporters?
that's what I've wondered too
some will believe him but others will sit there and wonder why he wants them to believe a blatant lie
just smacks desperation
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that's what I've wondered too
some will believe him but others will sit there and wonder why he wants them to believe a blatant lie
just smacks desperation
They will justify it with the other guy lies as well so its ok