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The parallels between alleged Colorado shooter James Holmes and Sirhan Sirhan are staggering. Both appear to have been drugged, both cannot remember the shootings they were accused of carrying out, and in both cases other shooters were reported by eyewitnesses.
Over 40 years after being convicted of the murder of Robert F. Kennedy, the weight of evidence clearly indicates that SIrhan Sirhan was a drugged-up patsy, a fall guy for the real murderer who has never been identified.
The fact that details surrounding the Aurora massacre and shooting suspect James Holmes mirror almost exactly those of Sirhan Sirhan, within just a week of the tragedy taking place, strongly suggest that Holmes is also a patsy or at the very least that there was a wider plot behind the tragedy that led to the deaths of 12 people.
As the London Independent reported in 2005, evidence strongly indicates that Sirhan was a Manchurian candidate, a victim of mind control who was set up to be the fall guy for the murder. Sirhan was described by eyewitnesses as being in a trance-like state as he pulled the trigger.
“There was no way Sirhan Sirhan killed Kennedy,” said (Sirhan’s lawyer Larry) Teeter, who has filed the lawsuit to preserve the pantry for further forensic examination. “He was the fall guy. His job was to get busted while the trigger man walked out. He wasn’t consciously involved in any plot. He was a patsy. He was unconscious and unaware of what was happening – he was the true Manchurian Candidate.”
The parallels between Sirhan Sirhan and James Holmes are alarming.
- Both were described as behaving as if in a trance or under the influence of drugs. “I felt drugged. I think somebody slipped something into my drinks,” said Sirhan, describing the moments before the shooting of RFK. Similarly, during his court appearance earlier this week, Holmes’ behavior clearly suggested he was also under the influence of strong medication. “The 24-year-old looked confused, blinked slowly, and struggled to keep his head up, leading the press to wonder if he’d been drugged,” reported NYMag.com.
- Both Sirhan Sirhan and James Holmes cannot remember any details of the alleged shootings they are accused of carrying out. “I didn’t know where I was and I don’t know how I got there. I was in a state of blackout,” stated Sirhan. Similarly, Holmes has told prison guards that he has no idea why he is in jail and is suffering from amnesia. “He claims he doesn’t know why he’s in jail,” a jailhouse worker told NY Daily News . “He asked, ‘Why am I here?’”
- In both the RFK and ‘Batman’ shootings eyewitnesses described other shooters, dismantling the “lone wolf” narrative. According to Nina Rhodes-Hughes, another man was shooting at RFK and the authorities tried to alter her account of what happened. “What has to come out is that there was another shooter to my right,” Rhodes-Hughes said in an interview with CNN. “The truth has got to be told. No more cover-ups.” Sirhan’s lawyers also presented evidence that “two guns were fired in the assassination and that Sirhan’s revolver was not the gun that shot Kennedy.” Similarly in the case of Holmes, eyewitnesses described two shooters, noting that one of the gas canisters was thrown from the opposite side of the theater to where the killer was standing. . It was also clear that Holmes, or whoever the killer in the gas mask was, had an accomplice. Eyewitnesses described the killer talking on a cellphone before the shooting and then standing in the emergency exit and beckoning someone else over.
The CIA’s use of mind control to create killers is a matter of historical record. MK-ULTRA was the code name for a covert, illegal CIA human research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence that came to light in 1975 through investigations by the Church Committee, and by a presidential commission known as the Rockefeller Commission. 14-year CIA veteran Victor Marchetti insists that the program is ongoing and has not been abandoned.
Holmes, a neuroscience student, was also fascinated with mind control. During his time at Salk Institute of Biological Studies, Holmes designed a computer program to alter mental states using flicker rates. Arizona shooter Jared Lee Loughner was also obsessed with mind control.
There are also a myriad of other questions surrounding the ‘Batman’ shootings that conflict with the official narrative, such as how Holmes could have developed bomb-making skills that exhibit the proficiency of an explosives expert, or why he carefully booby-trapped his apartment to kill anyone who tried to enter but then told police about the bombs as soon as he was arrested.
According to his lawyers, Sirhan Sirhan “was an involuntary participant in the crimes being committed because he was subjected to sophisticated hypno programming and memory implantation techniques which rendered him unable to consciously control his thoughts and actions at the time the crimes were being committed,” and served only as a diversion for the real assassin
Was James Holmes also just a diversion to hide the identify of the real assassin?
With the political machine now rushing headlong to exploit last week’s massacre to eviscerate the second amendment, each piece of new evidence points to the fact that Holmes was just one part of the puzzle or even worse, an unwitting patsy who took the fall for the real killer.
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But why would "they" do that to Holmes?
I understand Sirhan being programmed to kill RFK. RFK was a liberal to the bone, he was legitimitely dangerous to a lot of interests, not to mention he would re-open investigation to his brother's death.
But Holmes killed everyday people, why brainwash him to do that?
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Here we go again. Because people are affraid of the deep evil nature of man that lies in every single of us, a deep evil nature that s living inside themselves too but hypocritically hide every single day, something this dude has shown in clear daylight, they have to find surnatural , bullshit, irrational excuses to reassure themselves.
Dude just spent too much time watching violent crap since birth while not being genuinely loved by his own parents and especially father who was too busy "working" his carreer to boost his ego. Sick of being a skinny, effeminate nerdy looking loser everyone was laughing at, he bought guns in attempt to virilize himself, and when facing the reality he wasnt even "smart enough" to pass his exams, he realized he didnt live up to any of the expectations anyone , himself included, had of him.
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But why would "they" do that to Holmes?
I understand Sirhan being programmed to kill RFK. RFK was a liberal to the bone, he was legitimitely dangerous to a lot of interests, not to mention he would re-open investigation to his brother's death.
But Holmes killed everyday people, why brainwash him to do that?
http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2012/07/26/batman-shooter-james-holmes-father-robert-holmes-set-to-provide-crippling-information-on-libor-and-other-banking-scandals/
“Most important to note about James Holmes, however, this report says, is that his father, Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system. Robert Holmes, whose “blueblood” family links go back to the Mayflower, is known throughout the global banking community as being the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed and is credited with developing predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.
Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO, which was formally known as Fair, Isaac and Company, and which every American citizen is beholden to should they need to borrow money.”
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Dudes father was set to testify about LIBOR, a massive banking fraud involving the Federal Reserve and some huge western banks....at almost the same time as the shooting.
Things that make you go hmm.......
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Dudes father was set to testify about LIBOR, a massive banking fraud involving the Federal Reserve and some huge western banks....at almost the same time as the shooting.
Things that make you go hmm.......
So, he's not going to testify now?
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Here we go again. Because people are affraid of the deep evil nature of man that lies in every single of us, a deep evil nature that s living inside themselves too but hypocritically hide every single day, something this dude has shown in clear daylight, they have to find surnatural , bullshit, irrational excuses to reassure themselves.
Nobody is afraid of anything you creepy mong. Nice insight in to your own fragile psyche though.
Mind control has been going on for decades, not sure what the angle here would be though.
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So, he's not going to testify now?
I haven't seen any official yes or no, but most people are assuming he'll be a bit busy dealing with his sons shit to take the stand.
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I haven't seen any official yes or no, but most people are assuming he'll be a bit busy dealing with his sons shit to take the stand.
Makes you think.
What a corrupt shithole this planet is regardless.
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I did not post this article because I am a conspiracy theorist, though I do think its interesting.
Again, I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I find it really odd that his father was set to testify against the banking industry, then this happens. Just seems............odd. Maybe its a coincidence.
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I did not post this article because I am a conspiracy theorist, though I do think its interesting.
Again, I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I find it really odd that his father was set to testify against the banking industry, then this happens. Just seems............odd. Maybe its a coincidence.
Agree - don't know about the whole "mind control" thing, but the timing is definitely beyond mysterious IMHO.
Don't believe in coincidence's on this level.
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Agree - don't know about the whole "mind control" thing, but the timing is definitely beyond mysterious IMHO.
Don't believe in coincidence's on this level.
Yeah, exactly. It just lines up too perfectly. Like I said, I think most conspiracy theorists are loonies. But this just lines up too perfectly.
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When people cant find a rational explanation to the actions of one of their owns, they have to invent an explanation, as dumb as it may sound, because it is reassuring. Fact is we are animals, and that s about it, nothing more or less to understand.
It means that if you need to feed your wife and kids you have to kill that cow. If on the other side of the fence your neighbor who also needs to feed his kids and wife has to kill that cow, you re both at war for survival with each others. Dude is as certain as you of being right, of doing the good thing.
You can then either kill each others for that cow/food that will prolongate your loved ones survival, or cooperate and share the remains of the killed cow -or mamoth, or bird, etc-. You can also kill the man and dominate his family.
As simple as that. Soon we will all be remembered what we truly are, when nanny states and the world economy collapse. A massive, cyclical, selection will take place, Again.
Every single asshole on this planet will be certain of being in his right to kill his neighbor, and only the survivors who will build the "world of tomorrow" will be considered "right", as the others will be dead. Only winners write history.
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When people cant find a rational explanation to the actions of one of their owns, they have to invent an explanation, because it is reassuring. Fact is we are animals, and that s about it, nothing much or less to understand.
It means that if you need to feed your wife and kids you have to kill that cow. If on the other side of the fence your neighbor who also needs to feed his kids and wife has to kill that cow, you re both at war for survival with each others. You can then either kill each others, or cooperate and share the remains of the killed cow -or mamoth, or bird, etc-. As simple as that.
You dont think its odd that his father was set to testify about one of the largest banking scandals in recent history within days of the shooting?
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You dont think its odd that his father was set to testify about one of the largest banking scandals in recent history within days of the shooting?
No, if it isn't in the bible it tends to confuse Uberdouche.
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You dont think its odd that his father was set to testify about one of the largest banking scandals in recent history within days of the shooting?
First: SOURCES?
Second: What does it change? world economy is going to collapse anyway. Why would people scared of this dude's testimony "mind control" his son to make him kill moviegoers? lol. Retarded. How is it going to prevent him from testifying? Why not kill him directly instead?
No, if it isn't in the bible it tends to confuse Uberdouche.
Humans probably invented gods to hide to themselves the fact they are just absurd animals killing each others randomly and indefinitely for no reason other than their own survival, a process that is called "life".
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lets add some fuel to the fire ;)
was teh guy in court really james holmes?
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Here we go again. Because people are affraid of the deep evil nature of man that lies in every single of us, a deep evil nature that s living inside themselves too but hypocritically hide every single day, something this dude has shown in clear daylight, they have to find surnatural , bullshit, irrational excuses to reassure themselves.
Like religion.
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First: SOURCES?
Second: What does it change? world economy is going to collapse anyway. Why would people scared of this dude's testimony "mind control" his son to make him kill moviegoers? lol. Retarded.
As I said, I have no idea about the mind control deal.
As far as sources, its all over most non-MSM sites, but I have yet to find something I'd really define as Legit.
His father works for FICO developing predictive modeling software for trending financial information.
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lets add some fuel to the fire ;)
was teh guy in court really james holmes?
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Okay, as I said, I am not a conspiracy theorist, but seriously, it looks like 2 different people :o :o
Maybe all the drugs fucked up his eyes or something. I dont know. That is freaky though.
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First: SOURCES?
Second: What does it change? world economy is going to collapse anyway. Why would people scared of this dude's testimony "mind control" his son to make him kill moviegoers? lol. Retarded. How is it going to prevent him from testifying? Why not kill him directly instead?
Humans probably invented gods to hide to themselves the fact they are just absurd animals killing each others randomly and indefinitely for no reason other than their own survival, a process that is called "life".
Wow higher truth.
Nobody gives a shit about the opinion of some manic depressive loser such as yourself.
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lets add some fuel to the fire ;)
was teh guy in court really james holmes?
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:o
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what the fuck, did he have a nose-job?
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what the fuck, did he have a nose-job?
Frontal lobotomy.
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what the fuck, did he have a nose-job?
I know, its a totally different nose and his ears are much different. So odd.
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you guys realize he s smiling in one pic and not in the other picture right? Also you guys realize our facial structure changes subrepticely as we age over time right?
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you guys realize he s smiling in one pic and not ther other right?
he seems to be pulling a bit of a long face on the second one too, however that still doesn't account for the difference, the one on the left is an old picture and he must have had a nose-job in between, can't see any other reasonable explanation
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Smiling will obviously alter the shape of your nose, but it looks like 2 drastically different noses. Its not like you can still tell its his nose when he smiles.
Plus, one ear stick out more than the other.
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Eyebrows are different, too. I'd say he has some self image problems, he plucks eyebrows, has a nosejob, dyes his hair red... psycho kid.
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People here have terrible grasp of camera angles.Red headed pic he is tilting his head back further and pulled a long face, making his nose look narrower.Second pic his head is tilted further forward, and he is smiling and flairing his nostrils slightly.Put a finger on the side of each nostril lightly, now smile, case closed.
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People here have terrible grasp of camera angles.Red headed pic he is tilting his head back further and pulled a long face, making his nose look narrower.Second pic his head is tilted further forward, and he is smiling and flairing his nostrils slightly.Put a finger on the side of each nostril lightly, now smile, case closed.
My nose slightly widened. I am really not SF1900. Im an imposter! Thanks for proving that its really not him in the pics ;D ;D
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Its the same dude, just different circumstances.
People can look dramatically different from picture to picture depending on many factors.
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Its the same dude, just different circumstances.
People can look dramatically different from picture to picture depending on many factors.
NO STOP IT HE'S NOT ITS TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY TIED TO HIS DAD, WALL STREET, JEWS, OBAMA, THE ILLUMINATI, ASSASSINS CREED, GUN LAWS, METAL GEAR SOLID AND PRINCESS DIANA
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NO STOP IT HE'S NOT ITS TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY TIED TO HIS DAD, WALL STREET, JEWS, OBAMA, THE ILLUMINATI, ASSASSINS CREED, GUN LAWS, METAL GEAR SOLID AND PRINCESS DIANA
You missed Call of Duty, The Rothschilds, the "Hierarchy", WWII era German Nazi's, and the Canadian Royal Family.
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NOT SURE ABOUT CANADIAN ROYALS
Technically right, no one cares about Canada, BUT, that makes them perfect members for a conspiracy, doesn't it?
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Im surprised Obama isn't being blamed for this yet. Where is Coach when you need him, eh?
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Its the same dude, just different circumstances.
People can look dramatically different from picture to picture depending on many factors.
Yup, read an article that noted a 15 degree head tilt throws off facial recognition technology. I'll remember that on my next bank robbery.
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Technically right, no one cares about Canada, BUT, that makes them perfect members for a conspiracy, doesn't it?
;D
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maybe hes a reptilian too
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maybe hes a reptilian too
haha lol. We need Johnny Falcon and Sev/Cleanest Natural to comment on this! ;D ;D
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lets add some fuel to the fire ;)
was teh guy in court really james holmes?
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maybe they got the wrong james holmes, not exactly a rare name
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Isn't it odd that Robert Holmes's LinkedIn profile has exactly 111 connections?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-holmes/4/47b/24a (http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-holmes/4/47b/24a)
What is the probability that a man linked to the banking industry and set to testify about the Libor rate-setting scandal would have a mentally deranged son who committed a massacre and have a LinkedIn profile and have exactly 111 connections on that profile? I'll tell you: very, very low.
Therefore, the evil financial industry -- which as a sector hasn't even figured out how to post positive returns this year -- has magically harnessed untraceable mind control to force Robert's son to commit a massacre, even though he will almost certainly still testify anyway, and even though his testimony is non-essential (huge fines for Libor violations are already being doled out and reforms to the British Banking Association already being drafted).
Sigh... Never said anything about mind control.
Some people refuse to admit anything is coincident.
Some people see EVERYTHING as a coincident.
I'm somewhere in the middle, and it was enough to make me scratch my head.
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What next, the Aliens from the movie Branded are based on something real?
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People here have terrible grasp of camera angles.Red headed pic he is tilting his head back further and pulled a long face, making his nose look narrower.Second pic his head is tilted further forward, and he is smiling and flairing his nostrils slightly.Put a finger on the side of each nostril lightly, now smile, case closed.
the only guy who gets it,
the rest of you are dumb as fuck
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the only guy who gets it,
the rest of you are dumb as fuck
Are you saying the government has not replaced Holmes with a lookalike reptilian specimen from 800,000 years ago? :o :o
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lets add some fuel to the fire ;)
was teh guy in court really james holmes?
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Ear to nose ratio off...would not hit :-X
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Sigh... Never said anything about mind control.
Some people refuse to admit anything is coincident.
Some people see EVERYTHING as a coincident.
I'm somewhere in the middle, and it was enough to make me scratch my head.
I wasn't necessarily parroting you, but rather the really dumb people on conspiracy boards who are proposing something along the lines of my mockery.
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But why would "they" do that to Holmes?
I understand Sirhan being programmed to kill RFK. RFK was a liberal to the bone, he was legitimitely dangerous to a lot of interests, not to mention he would re-open investigation to his brother's death.
But Holmes killed everyday people, why brainwash him to do that?
If one were to believe this theory, I think the reason 'they' would have done this would be to push forward with gun control measures in the US.
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Recently I watched a documentary here in the UK were the aim was to test whether a hypnotized person could be programmed to kill another person and not know about or even remember it.
They also wanted to test whether the Sirhan hypnosis theory was possible.
And it worked. Stephen Fry would have been assassinated in front of a life audience. And the 'killer' didn't remember a thing. He used a gun with blanks.
The trigger used were simple things like the specific patters on a woman's dress etc.
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Here we go again. Because people are affraid of the deep evil nature of man that lies in every single of us, a deep evil nature that s living inside themselves too but hypocritically hide every single day, something this dude has shown in clear daylight, they have to find surnatural , bullshit, irrational excuses to reassure themselves.
Dude just spent too much time watching violent crap since birth while not being genuinely loved by his own parents and especially father who was too busy "working" his carreer to boost his ego. Sick of being a skinny, effeminate nerdy looking loser everyone was laughing at, he bought guns in attempt to virilize himself, and when facing the reality he wasnt even "smart enough" to pass his exams, he realized he didnt live up to any of the expectations anyone , himself included, had of him.
Bingo! Sadly, there are pelnty of nutjobs like this one who do this insane violent crap without any extra "help".
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None of this still explains why he had his apt booby-trapped and then told the police...
You don't do all that thru "mind control" or "hypnosis".
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None of this still explains why he had his apt booby-trapped and then told the police...
You don't do all that thru "mind control" or "hypnosis".
I've read some estimates that he'd have needed $20 000 to fund his operation, that's a lot of money for a student (if that amount is accurate). The body armour alone costs about $4000.
And another thing, where did he learn to build those traps and bombs? On the internet....?
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None of this still explains why he had his apt booby-trapped and then told the police...
You don't do all that thru "mind control" or "hypnosis".
and you know this info from let me guess, television?
lol cause we all know you get told the truth when you watch tv
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and you know this info from let me guess, television?
lol cause we all know you get told the truth when you watch tv
All Podpeople boobytrap their homes
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Who is "bathman"?
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all joking aside, those pics are not the same person.
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Who is "bathman"?
When he was young, he was dirty all the time, but when he reached the age of 16, he started bathing three-four times a day, thus the moniker "bathman"
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Are you ever going to change the monstrous visage in your avatar? I fear I'm going to start having nightmares about it soon.
You don't like tattoos?
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You fuck with banks and they fuck you back 1000 times harder
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Recently I watched a documentary here in the UK were the aim was to test whether a hypnotized person could be programmed to kill another person and not know about or even remember it.
They also wanted to test whether the Sirhan hypnosis theory was possible.
And it worked. Stephen Fry would have been assassinated in front of a life audience. And the 'killer' didn't remember a thing. He used a gun with blanks.
The trigger used were simple things like the specific patters on a woman's dress etc.
lol, do you believe evrything you see?Derren Brown is a MENTALIST, in that he does things for show, using misdirection, camera tricks etc.He's know to use paid actors/stooges and his last few "tricks" have been torn to shreds as simple camera trickery, the fry assasination episode was a joke, guy fires a gun and the people next to him sit there not even bothered he's firing a gun lol
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Two members of my church were murdered by this kid in Colorado at that screening.
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Two members of my church were murdered by this kid in Colorado at that screening.
Sad to hear.
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You are missing the point, all of you!!! THIS IS A STEROID RELATED CRIME!!! ITS OBVIOUS!!!
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You are missing the point, all of you!!! THIS IS A STEROID RELATED CRIME!!! ITS OBVIOUS!!!
Yes, the signs are clearly visible in the mugshot!
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I think I may have to thank SHOCK WAVE for shedding light on how this may be a perfect recipe to ammend the constitution [yet again] and disarm an american society in an oncoming state of martial law.
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America is more sympathetic to politicians, really Young girls, woman with careers, old ladys , and service men.... Its only A matter of time, before weapon bills start getting passed
Victims of Arizona Shooting....
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Victims of Colorado shooting....
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Send "Bathman" over to Africa. I'm sure they could use a good cleansing.
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Send "Bathman" over to Africa. I'm sure they could use a good cleansing.
they will be. ethnically cleansed by the MONSTERS of industry.
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What is this I don't eve....
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wow what a culo!