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Title: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 01:19:33 AM
Remembering that Republicans used what Hillary said against Obama....

Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: 240 is Back on August 06, 2012, 03:54:59 AM
There's a 20% chance Romney will win, historically.
There's a 80% chance any other repub would beat Obama, historically.
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 04:55:04 AM
There's a 20% chance Romney will win, historically.
There's a 80% chance any other repub would beat Obama, historically.

 ::)   

And you sure did your part didnt you by staying on your couch jerking off watching Maddow didnt you? 
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: 240 is Back on August 06, 2012, 05:28:43 AM
::)   

And you sure did your part didnt you by staying on your couch jerking off watching Maddow didnt you? 

Don't hate the messenger here.  Call your delegates and give them this information, reminding them the goal isn't to fulfill Romney's wet dream of changing with the wind politically for 30 years in order to win the presidency.

Tell them the goal is to defeat obama - and statistically, "anybody but romney" will do exactly that.
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 05:39:00 AM
Don't hate the messenger here.  Call your delegates and give them this information, reminding them the goal isn't to fulfill Romney's wet dream of changing with the wind politically for 30 years in order to win the presidency.

Tell them the goal is to defeat obama - and statistically, "anybody but romney" will do exactly that.


You sat on your fucking ass and did squat because you were too lazy.   
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: blacken700 on August 06, 2012, 05:44:23 AM

You sat on your fucking ass and did squat because you were too lazy.   

what did you do since your on getbig 24/7  :D
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: dario73 on August 06, 2012, 05:47:35 AM

You sat on your fucking ass and did squat because you were too lazy.   

Makes you wonder how a Perot "supporter" could possibly defend or support Obama. What could he possibly have in common with any democrat?

240 needs to sit this one out. Stay home 240. Just like you did in the primary.
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 10:24:38 AM
 :o

"We’re not going to beat Barack Obama with some guy who has Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island accounts, owns shares of Goldman Sachs while it forecloses on Florida and is himself a stockholder in Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac while he tries to think the rest of us are too stupid to put the dots together to understand what this is all about."--Newt Gingrich
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 10:28:47 AM
:o

"We’re not going to beat Barack Obama with some guy who has Swiss bank accounts, Cayman Island accounts, owns shares of Goldman Sachs while it forecloses on Florida and is himself a stockholder in Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac while he tries to think the rest of us are too stupid to put the dots together to understand what this is all about."--Newt Gingrich

If Newt won the primary would you have voted for him? 

Yes or no? 
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: 240 is Back on August 06, 2012, 10:30:30 AM

You sat on your fucking ass and did squat because you were too lazy.   

Ron paul was behind by 85 points in my state, and said he was witndrawing.  I would have had to change my registration.

For what?  To make a point, I would have wasted time, gas, taxpayer dollars, etc?   
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 10:31:43 AM
Ron paul was behind by 85 points in my state, and said he was witndrawing.  I would have had to change my registration.

For what?  To make a point, I would have wasted time, gas, taxpayer dollars, etc?   

And same in my state but guess what - I got off my ass and voted for him. 

Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: 240 is Back on August 06, 2012, 10:35:27 AM
And same in my state but guess what - I got off my ass and voted for him. 

I had to look at the societal cost of voting for Ron Paul in a place he wasn't running anymore.

Gas money.  Time.  Use of county office.  Paperwork to change things twice.  I care about the environment.  I'm not quite the "man caused global warming" like Palin and Romney and al gore, but I do believe driving 45 minutes to try to vote at my old station when not a registered GOP would have squandered resources. 
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
I had to look at the societal cost of voting for Ron Paul in a place he wasn't running anymore.

Gas money.  Time.  Use of county office.  Paperwork to change things twice.  I care about the environment.  I'm not quite the "man caused global warming" like Palin and Romney and al gore, but I do believe driving 45 minutes to try to vote at my old station when not a registered GOP would have squandered resources. 

 ::)

Typical of a lazy obama drone. 
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
If Newt won the primary would you have voted for him? 

Yes or no? 
no, what's that have to do with my post?  yea, nothing. 

From past posts several people here did like Newt.

I think people should refuse to vote for either Romney or Obama.  Will that happen?  No.  Should I stop posting what I believe because it's unlikely?  hell no...
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 11:07:46 AM
no, what's that have to do with my post?  yea, nothing. 

From past posts several people here did like Newt.

I think people should refuse to vote for either Romney or Obama.  Will that happen?  No.  Should I stop posting what I believe because it's unlikely?  hell no...

That is my point.   

The Paulbots are simply living in an alternate universe.   He is not going to be on the ballot and is not even encouraging people to write his name in. 

Santorum, Bachmann, Newt, Huntsman, Cain, et al ran for the GOP nomination and lost as well.  Are there people screaming that they are going to write in "Cain" cause he lost?  Santorum?   


If Paul wanted to run 3rd party from the get go, he should have and many of us, myself included would have supported him as he would have had even a far better chance than Perot did in 1992.  However, he lost.   Was the deck stacked?  Sure, but we are where we are for worse and even worse than that.   

Sure it sucks, but this is politics not sunday church services. 
   
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Shockwave on August 06, 2012, 11:23:20 AM
Politicians are a bunch of dumb motherfuckers.
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 11:25:28 AM
Politicians are a bunch of dumb motherfuckers.

Truth!   Romney is seriously pissing me off with all these missed opportunities.

Christie / Ryan probably would have been the best pic in terms of people willing to take the fight right about obama and shove his socialism and corruption right down his Kenyan neck. 
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: 240 is Back on August 06, 2012, 11:29:33 AM
::)

Typical of a lazy obama drone. 

yep>  But you know what?  If I saw a MFer robbing my corner store, I would have blocked his escape.  You bet your pretty ass I would have.  If his actions were egrigious (sp?) and crystal clear, I would have straight up tackled/blocked.   If I'm not sure, I block his escape with body, make him run me over at full speed, at which point i'm justified to hold him until police arrive, as he just assaulted me.

Either way, you call me a lazy obama fanboy... but when shit hits the fan, I would have helped my fellow americans, and you just watched and took down license plate number cause it wasn't worth it to get involved.

But hey, I guess you help america by voting for guys down by 40 points who have forfeited your state, and I dont help them by trucking every fcking bad guy I see, and yes, I fucking woudl and you know it man.
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 11:47:25 AM
That is my point.  

The Paulbots are simply living in an alternate universe.   He is not going to be on the ballot and is not even encouraging people to write his name in.  

Santorum, Bachmann, Newt, Huntsman, Cain, et al ran for the GOP nomination and lost as well.  Are there people screaming that they are going to write in "Cain" cause he lost?  Santorum?    


If Paul wanted to run 3rd party from the get go, he should have and many of us, myself included would have supported him as he would have had even a far better chance than Perot did in 1992.  However, he lost.   Was the deck stacked?  Sure, but we are where we are for worse and even worse than that.  

Sure it sucks, but this is politics not sunday church services.  
    

it's an alternative universe because of people like you, not because of people like me.  I answered your question now you answer my question

If I don't believe in or trust either Romney or Obama, why should I support either one?  Why should I not push for an alternative no matter how unlikely?  Why should I just fall in line against my own beliefs?  Why is it that I'm nuts for not accepting to support someone I don't trust whatsoever but you're spot on for doing it?  LOL, answer that.

It's not impossible or even illegal or something.  It doesn't happen because of twits insisting it can't happen.

Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 11:55:15 AM
it's an alternative universe because of people like you, not because of people like me.  I answered your question now you answer my question

If I don't believe in or trust either Romney or Obama, why should I support either one?  Why should I not push for an alternative no matter how unlikely?  Why should I just fall in line against my own beliefs?  Why is it that I'm nuts for not accepting to support someone I don't trust whatsoever but you're spot on for doing it?  LOL, answer that.

It's not impossible or even illegal or something.  It doesn't happen because of twits insisting it can't happen.



People like me?   LOL - I am one of the few on this board who actually voted for paul in the primary! 
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 11:59:19 AM
People like me?   LOL - I am one of the few on this board who actually voted for paul in the primary!  
are you going to answer my fucking questions or not?  I answered yours. and I wasn't talking about your primary and you fucking know it ::)
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 12:04:01 PM
are you going to answer my fucking questions or not?  I answered yours. and I wasn't talking about your primary and you fucking know it ::)

I don't trust romney either but i know the current calculus of obama being POTUS is a total FAIL 

When he had all demo congress we got obamacare, bailouts, etc etc.  when he had GOP congress we have a complete abdication of leadership and debt downgrade since he is a petulant child who would rather burn the house down than work w the other side. 

So at this point its safe to say we have seen the best and worst of obama, and both suck terribly. 

I am voting for the remote  chance romeny will be better, nothing more or less and am fully prepared to be dissappointed
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 12:09:16 PM
I don't trust romney either but i know the current calculus of obama being POTUS is a total FAIL  

When he had all demo congress we got obamacare, bailouts, etc etc.  when he had GOP congress we have a complete abdication of leadership and debt downgrade since he is a petulant child who would rather burn the house down than work w the other side.  

So at this point its safe to say we have seen the best and worst of obama, and both suck terribly.  

I am voting for the remote  chance romeny will be better, nothing more or less and am fully prepared to be dissappointed
how does this remotely answer my questions?  The only thing you just did was to say why you're voting for Romney which we all know since you've stated it over and over.  Answer my actual questions please.  

If you can't, I'll just assume I must have a valid point you're unwilling to address.
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
If I don't believe in or trust either Romney or Obama, why should I support either one?

Why should I not push for an alternative no matter how unlikely?

Why should I just fall in line against my own beliefs?

Why is it that I'm nuts for not accepting to support someone I don't trust whatsoever but you're spot on for doing it?
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 12:25:50 PM
If I don't believe in or trust either Romney or Obama, why should I support either one?

Why should I not push for an alternative no matter how unlikely?

Why should I just fall in line against my own beliefs?

Why is it that I'm nuts for not accepting to support someone I don't trust whatsoever but you're spot on for doing it?


I dont support romeny other than to the extent that he will change the calculus in DC.

Either obama or romney will be the next potus - not ron paul, not gary johnson, not snookie, not roseann barr, obama or romney.

I don't have to "support" someone in order to want to vote for them to change shit up.

Obama is a complete failure and you all know it.  By giving votes to anyone other than his main opponent, it is a vote to keep him in office.     

Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 12:33:13 PM
I see you're still refusing to answer my question.... ::)

3333, you've given us all the reason why you're voting for Romney.  In your thinking you have no choice.  You have to vote for someone you don't like.  You're getting in a line you don't want to be in because you feel that's your only option.

LOL and you are calling me a delusional bot?  I'd like some explaination for why I'm the delusional one  when out of us both i'm the one who's not willing to be forced to vote for someone I don't believe in.

I went with what I felt was the lesser of 2 evils in 08.  I got in the line I didn't want to be in and I got skewered here by you and others for doing that.  Now here you are telling me that's the only option a person has.
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 12:36:27 PM
I see you're still refusing to answer my question.... ::)

3333, you've given us all the reason why you're voting for Romney.  In your thinking you have no choice.  You have to vote for someone you don't like.  You're getting in a line you don't want to be in because you feel that's your only option.

LOL and you are calling me a delusional bot?  I'd like some explaination for why I'm the delusional one when out of us both i'm the one who's not willing to be forced to vote for someone I don't believe in.

I went with what I felt was the lesser of 2 evils in 08.  I got in the line I didn't want to be in and I got skewered here by you and others for doing that.  Now here you are telling me that's the only option a person has.

You are looking for a answer that does not exist.  I gave you the answer - its just that you don't want to accept it. 

Go vote for some third party person, all the more power to you.   But if you dilute the anti-obama vote and he gets in, than just dont complain about it. 

Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 12:41:01 PM
You are looking for a answer that does not exist.  I gave you the answer - its just that you don't want to accept it. 

Go vote for some third party person, all the more power to you.   But if you dilute the anti-obama vote and he gets in, than just dont complain about it. 


bullshit, you're missing the main question that you should be able to answer!!!!  You're pointing a finger at me saying I'm in a fantasy land.  You're calling me a bot.

You're saying I'm delusional.  If you can't explain why I'm delusional for refusing to support either Obama or Romney, it's because you don't really believe that's delusional for a person.

So how about you stop suggesting I'm a bot living in fantasy land just because there is no way I'm going to cast my vote for someone I have zero faith in?
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 12:42:02 PM
Oh, and now you're going to blame me if Obama wins ::)

nice ::)
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 12:45:18 PM
Oh, and now you're going to blame me if Obama wins ::)

nice ::)

If you are against obama and dont want to see him serve another term then there is only one possible choice that is going to make that happen. 


FACT

FACT

FACT 


If you don't want to see either Romney or Obama serve the next term, you are shit out of luck.


FACT 
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 01:01:18 PM
YES OR NO? Am I a delusional bot for refusing to support a candidate for president that I have zero faith in?
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Straw Man on August 06, 2012, 01:03:14 PM
If you are against obama and dont want to see him serve another term then there is only one possible choice that is going to make that happen. 


FACT

FACT

FACT 


If you don't want to see either Romney or Obama serve the next term, you are shit out of luck.

FACT 

doesn't that make you SOL

looks like you're stuck in the ghetto with the scary thugs for at least another 4 years
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 01:05:19 PM
YES OR NO? Am I a delusional bot for refusing to support a candidate for president that I have zero faith in?

No, but you are delusional if you think voting for a third party this election cycle is going to accomplish anything at all since there is no third party with even close to a chance like Perot did.  

You are in Wyoming right?  so it really does not matter I guess.   Same with me in NYS.  
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 01:06:48 PM
doesn't that make you SOL

looks like you're stuck in the ghetto with the scary thugs for at least another 4 years

Obama sucks and can't run on his disastrous record. 

Romney is out of touch and I don't trust him but will vote for him. 

It is what it is. 
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 06, 2012, 01:39:51 PM
Obama sucks and can't run on his disastrous record. 

Romney is out of touch and I don't trust him but will vote for him. 

It is what it is. 
Are you going to own what Romney does as president or will you just say he's better than Obama?
Title: Re: Hope dems don't start using things said against Romney, this stuff is just harsh
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 06, 2012, 01:59:10 PM
Are you going to own what Romney does as president or will you just say he's better than Obama?

I will say what dissappointed obama voters say - in 2008 it was what i thought was a responsible choice given the options.