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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: King Shizzo on August 07, 2012, 04:08:45 PM
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1.Washington (helped us win our independence, and was the very first pres.)
2.Lincoln (helped end slavery, made some of the toughest decisions ever)
3.Kennedy( fucked monroe, was important enough to be assassinated. (see Lincoln)
What say you Getbig?
Other countries feel free to add your leaders, and why.
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fdr
kennedy
obama
...waiting for coach or 333 to call me a tool. ;D
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fdr
kennedy
obama
...waiting for coach or 333 to call me a tool. ;D
Obama? Reagan is 10000x better then Obama.
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fdr
kennedy
obama
...waiting for coach or 333 to call me a tool. ;D
Which is why you trolled obama
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fdr
kennedy
obama
...waiting for coach or 333 to call me a tool. ;D
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Kennedy? Obama?
You are off your rocker.
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fdr
kennedy
obama
...waiting for coach or 333 to call me a tool. ;D
If it wasn`t for James K. Polk, you would be posting right now in Mexico.
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Kennedy? Obama?
You are off your rocker.
Kennedy is worthy. He wouldn't settle on being a drone. He was assassinated because he was a free thinker, and actually gave a shit.
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GwB.... guy was legendary ... never saw a president more in TV then W.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y108/daisy-dog/bushrush.jpg)
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a392/Tha_liks/bush.png)
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Kennedy is worthy. He wouldn't settle on being a drone. He was assassinated because he was a free thinker, and actually gave a shit.
Kennedy was little different than Bush, except intelligent enough to realize the scope of his power and how to use it.
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Obama? Reagan is 10000x better then Obama.
you might think so. i dont.
i guess it really comes down to whether or not you believe government can be a positive force in the world.
if you think less government is better because government is inherenly bad, then youll prefer reagan.
if you think more good government is better because government can be a good thing, then youll prefer obama.
based on the history of the world, and on my optimistic ideals, i do think government can be and has been a very positive force.. albeit when abused it can also be a very damaging force as well.
but then the question arrves in my mind.. who shall we let make the decisions? the wealthy and powerful, or the people?
and that is why i support democracy, and strongly encourage my fellow man to vote for people policies and programs that make positive changes.
such as taxation to fund social services.
and regulations to prohibit oppressive and damaging practices.
:)
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2:38 seconds.
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TA did you have a love affair with that man ? is that why youl take his word and put it above your own ideology ? ;D assuming you are truly a liberal/progressive as you have claimed to be in the past..
the fat of the matter if there are always very vocal and adament detractors that try to tarnish the reputation of anyone who ever achieves anything of great value. usually there is a bit of truth in their words, as nobody is an angel.. but most often time the detractor is a self pitying attention whore looking for sympathy and to be viewed as victimized and "better than" the person he detracts from..
this is not to say your man up there is lying.. but its to say.. why simply take him at his word??
i dont know anything about kennedy except for what is public information.. never met the man.. so im going to side with the abundance of information on the subject.. not a minority opinion that contradicts the consensus..
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TA did you have a love affair with that man ? is that why youl take his word and put it above your own ideology ? ;D assuming you are truly a liberal/progressive as you have claimed to be in the past..
the fat of the matter if there are always very vocal and adament detractors that try to tarnish the reputation of anyone who ever achieves anything of great value. usually there is a bit of truth in their words, as nobody is an angel.. but most often time the detractor is a self pitying attention whore looking for sympathy and to be viewed as victimized and "better than" the person he detracts from..
this is not to say your man up there is lying.. but its to say.. why simply take him at his word??
i dont know anything about kennedy except for what is public information.. never met the man.. so im going to side with the abundance of information on the subject.. not a minority opinion that contradicts the consensus..
You don`t know anything about Kennedy because your knowledge of American History is limited. You oughta reserve your judgements until you know a little bit more. Kennedy was not a very good President. Its the image people are in love with and the mythology that surrounded him. Kennedy knew this full well as did his father.
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Honorable mention to Thomas Jefferson. One of the most well-rounded men in history. A getbigger.
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You don`t know anything about Kennedy because your knowledge of American History is limited. You oughta reserve your judgements until you know a little bit more. Kennedy was a horrible President. Its the image people are in love with and the mythology that surrounded him. Kennedy knew this full well as did his father.
You are right Adam. There is a reason that they killed John and his brother. They wouldn't follow an agenda. They weren't about making money. They actually wanted to make a difference.
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Dylan
Dylan
and Dylan
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Kennedy is definitely not on the list.
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Kennedy is definitely not on the list.
What is your top 3?
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Kennedy is worthy. He wouldn't settle on being a drone. He was assassinated because he was a free thinker, and actually gave a shit.
No, there is more cred that he was assissinated because there are other elements who put him in power, and he and his brother were cracking down on em.
Anyways, no Tommy J?
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1. Lincoln
HUGE GAP
Then Washington and FDR in either order. Almost every well-researched study on the topic has reached this conclusion or a similar one.
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Ignis aurum probat, miseria fortes homines.
Lincoln
Washington
FDR
Honorable Mention
(Jefferson - when comes such another?)
(Kennedy)
You can't be serious about Obama.
Stop it with that damn Latin sh@t...You gonna have people think that we actually are educated here...this is not the place for that!
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I`m not sure where I`d rank James K. Polk, but there is no denying that he was the most effective President in History. There is nothing he failed to accomplish that he set out to do.
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Martin Van Buren of course.............found er of The Van Buren Boys
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Grover Cleveland was both the 22nd and 24th President (i.e. reclaimed his title) and was also a permabulker so he should be supported by getbiggers.
(http://yesteryearsnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/grover-cleveland-1.jpg)
Was also a dapper gent as you can see.
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Nixon for sure then Carter, then GWB and then Obama
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Washington has to be first. He was the general of the army that won our freedom. He also set the bar as the first leader of our nation. The neegle had wooden teeth!
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Andrew Jackson - for beating the reds and throwing the banks out.
Jefferson - A giant in any age
Eisenhower - Beat the Germans
Fuck FDR - Confiscated the peoples wealth, rounded up American cititzens and instituted a permanent police state
Fuck Lincoln - His war of Northern aggression ended the Republic
Fuck Wilson - Suckering the public into WW1 and allowing the Fed to take the people's wealth
Fuck Bush - PAtriot Act
Fuck Obama - NDAA
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Andrew Jackson - for beating the reds and throwing the banks out.
Jefferson - A giant in any age
Eisenhower - Beat the Germans
Fuck FDR - Confiscated the peoples wealth, rounded up American cititzens and instituted a permanent police state
Fuck Lincoln - His war of Northern aggression ended the Republic
Fuck Wilson - Suckering the public into WW1 and allowing the Fed to take the people's wealth
Fuck Bush - PAtriot Act
Fuck Obama - NDAA
A valid retort.
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Andrew Jackson - for beating the reds and throwing the banks out.
Jefferson - A giant in any age
Eisenhower - Beat the Germans
Fuck FDR - Confiscated the peoples wealth, rounded up American cititzens and instituted a permanent police state
Fuck Lincoln - His war of Northern aggression ended the Republic
Fuck Wilson - Suckering the public into WW1 and allowing the Fed to take the people's wealth
Fuck Bush - PAtriot Act
Fuck Obama - NDAA
Great success.
Fuck the Federal Reserve.
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Stop it with that damn Latin sh@t...You gonna have people think that we actually are educated here...this is not the place for that!
Aut disce aut discede :D
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Washington. Lincoln. Reagan.
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Some rather obscure ones.
Grover Cleveland - Honest, honest, honest
Teddy Roosevelt - the Trustbuster
Thomas Jefferson - goes without saying
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Some rather obscure ones.
Grover Cleveland - Honest, honest, honest
Teddy Roosevelt - the Trustbuster
Thomas Jefferson - goes without saying
Jefferson was fantastic! Excellent choice.
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wes could tell us all about these great men.
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1.Washington (helped us win our independence, and was the very first pres.)
2.Lincoln (helped end slavery, made some of the toughest decisions ever)
3.Kennedy( fucked monroe, was important enough to be assassinated. (see Lincoln)
What say you Getbig?
Other countries feel free to add your leaders, and why.
2. Why is/was that a good thing??
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1. FDR
2. Washington
3. Lincoln
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Not in the top 3 but I thought Clinton was an awesome president.
He was smarter than most along with HIllary who is extremely
intelligent. He was a great speaker and had a lot of Charisma.
The economy was very good under his leadership even though he wasted
alot of time fighting the republican attacks. He had a surplus for the 1st time
in who knows when. The economy has been on a downward spiral ever
since 9-11.
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fdr
kennedy
obama
...waiting for coach or 333 to call me a tool. ;D
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Doesn't surprise me. You've already established yourself as a.freeloader. That what most people are who vote for Obama
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Jack Daniels
Jim Beam
Old Grand Dad
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W. no doubt the most hilarious president
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- Franklin Delano Roosevelt- the New Deal...pity he could not get all of it going...pity they have been rescinding it the last thirty years. That's the reason the middle class has withered
- John Fitzgerald Kennedy-project Apollo
- Lyndon Baines Johnson- the Great Society
Some one will surely point out Vietnam...the argument can be made that vietnam would have happened no matter who was President...
Going to add a fourth...
- Dwight David Eisenhower- the Interstate System-Beginnings of space
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Geronimo,, Sitting Bull, Chief Seattle -"Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect."
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1) Ron Paul
2) Ron Paul
3) Ron Paul
Even though the American public are too stupid too elect Ron, he would be the greatest president the USA has ever seen since Lincoln!
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2. Why is/was that a good thing??
Have you ever watched Roots?
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Clinton
Obama
Carter
in no particular order.
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Condalisa Rice was good.
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Bill Clinton should appear more in this thread.
Getbig, I am disappoint.
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Eisenhower
Reagan
Lincoln
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wes could tell us all about these great men.
Wes voted for Lincoln
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Justin Esch & Dave Lefkow, the 2 uncrowned Presidents.
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Wes voted ran against for Lincoln
Fixed
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Not in the top 3 but I thought Clinton was an awesome president.
He was smarter than most along with HIllary who is extremely
intelligent. He was a great speaker and had a lot of Charisma.
The economy was very good under his leadership even though he wasted
alot of time fighting the republican attacks. He had a surplus for the 1st time
in who knows when. The economy has been on a downward spiral ever
since 9-11.
My father would say the same thing. When he was in office my father complained all the time about him, he's one of those conspiracy people. Oh Clinton's doing this and Clinton's doing that but all the while my dad's was getting rich because the economy was awesome under him. Years later he admits, I didnt like the guy but things were pretty good when he was prez. Makes me wonder what Hillary could do?