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It had been a wonderful week with the family in Chicago. My daughter had been before, but it was the first time her mother had ever gotten an opportunity to visit some of the world's finest museums.
On our final day, I thought it would be great to introduce both to the architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright, so we drove out to Oak Park, which is a vastly different community than it was 20 years ago. Those of you familiar with urban creep know what I'm talking about. Section 8 has allowed the 'hood to infest once-genteel neighborhoods and towns all over America and sadly, not even a pristine, historically all-American village like Oak Park is immune.
After a brief walking tour of one of the more historic sections of town, I wanted to share with them the experience of ice cream at one of the true landmark spots in Chicago, Petersen's, a little place I'd discovered back in the days when I used to get off the train at random spots and just wander after a week at Great Lakes.
While looking over the selection of treats, a young woman came in and requested a chocolate sample. The scooper pleasantly obliged her and then the strange woman turned to me and asked whether she could 'borrow' two dollars (why is it always two dollars??) to get some food, because she was hungry. She even rubbed her tummy to denote the hunger. K was in the washroom and Mojo was looking at ice cream, so no one else other than the scoopers and I saw what was going on. I looked her in the eye as I ignored her question and went on about my business.
But she did not leave. Instead she moved a bit, watched as we placed our order, then repositioned herself and with desperate eyes held out her hand to me. I then pulled $2 from my wallet and said, "I'm going to give you this, but then you have to leave. You can't be here." She shook her head in agreement, took the money, said a quick 'thank-you' and ran out.
By this point, K was back and then asked me what that was about, of course. So, I had to explain, while at the same time making sure that my daughter knew that charity had *nothing* to do with my desire to enjoy a family outing in peace so that we wouldn't have to deal with the begging from a girl wearing Air Jordans while I'm wearing a pair of discontinued Pumas that I got for $30 at the second-hand store.
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It had been a wonderful week with the family in Chicago. My daughter had been before, but it was the first time her mother had ever gotten an opportunity to visit some of the world's finest museums.
On our final day, I thought it would be great to introduce both to the architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright, so we drove out to Oak Park, which is a vastly different community than it was 20 years ago. Those of you familiar with urban creep know what I'm talking about. Section 8 has allowed the 'hood to infest once-genteel neighborhoods and towns all over America and sadly, not even a pristine, historically all-American village like Oak Park is immune.
After a brief walking tour of one of the more historic sections of town, I wanted to share with them the experience of ice cream at one of the true landmark spots in Chicago, Petersen's, a little place I'd discovered back in the days when I used to get off the train at random spots and just wander after a week at Great Lakes.
While looking over the selection of treats, a young woman came in and requested a chocolate sample. The scooper pleasantly obliged her and then the strange woman turned to me and asked whether she could 'borrow' two dollars (why is it always two dollars??) to get some food, because she was hungry. She even rubbed her tummy to denote the hunger. K was in the washroom and Mojo was looking at ice cream, so no one else other than the scoopers and I saw what was going on. I looked her in the eye as I ignored her question and went on about my business.
But she did not leave. Instead she moved a bit, watched as we placed our order, then repositioned herself and with desperate eyes held out her hand to me. I then pulled $2 from my wallet and said, "I'm going to give you this, but then you have to leave. You can't be here." She shook her head in agreement, took the money, said a quick 'thank-you' and ran out.
By this point, K was back and then asked me what that was about, of course. So, I had to explain, while at the same time making sure that my daughter knew that charity had *nothing* to do with my desire to enjoy a family outing in peace so that we wouldn't have to deal with the begging from a girl wearing Air Jordans while I'm wearing a pair of discontinued Pumas that I got for $30 at the second-hand store.
Bam. Good call. Those asking for a few bucks get nothing from me if they: a) smoke or b) have expensive shoes.
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You can identify her sneakers as this bitch eyes my daughter who was handling her business with the ice cream girl.
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Did people find it weird that you were taking pictures of a little girl?
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chicago!? can you account of your exact whereabouts between so-and-so and whatsit o'clock please ?
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In theory, she could be wearing sneakers that someone donated. I've donated Air Maxes, Air Flight Lites, Reebok DMXs, Reebok Pumps.
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Maybe she is the best basketball player at the homeless shelter. ???
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Here is what I say to anyone asking for money.
"I will give you the dollar but first I’d like you to tell me that you are a false prophet. I’d like you to tell me that you are, and have been, a false prophet, and that God is a superstition."
Its always interesting to see their reaction to that.
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I only give someone money if they have a kid with them.
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If you weren't there, she would have beaten your daughter for pocket change....
I used to give bums cash all the time , until I bought a bum a burrito once and then he asked for $2 after I handed him the burrito at the drive thru.... Worst part was I went to 7-11 to grab a soft drink 5min later and when I got back to my car, some fucking prick stole my car stereo .... Fuck karma, fuck dead beats, fuck helping a hungry motha fucker
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Why give her any money? Seriously, that's retarded. This bitch is on welfare, and has been taught that praying on white guilt will get her money. She's worse than a street corner bum, because she leeches off the system and doesn't put shit back into it. And before any of you guys get all, "how do you know she lives in government housing?". C'mon, you all know...
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Why give her any money? Seriously, that's retarded. This bitch is on welfare, and has been taught that praying on white guilt will get her money. She's worse than a street corner bum, because she leeches off the system and doesn't put shit back into it. And before any of you guys get all, "how do you know she lives in government housing?". C'mon, you all know...
I didn't have any doubt that she's a welfare queen-in-training, because I grew up in the 'hood and know their scent.
Unfortunately, because time was a factor (had a plane to catch in 3 hours) and because I had my family with me, the path of least resistance was to pay the protection money so that we'd be allowed to enjoy our ice cream in peace.
My daughter doesn't get to interact with many black people on a regular basis, so experiences like these can't help but to shape her view of the world. I haven't raised her to 'hate the poor' like so many do. In fact, a couple days earlier, we'd bought a pack of cloths while stopped at a red light from a group that was (supposedly) selling them for a local Little League team. The little boys had uniforms and everything. KNOWING how strapped they are for youth sports resources on the South Side, I felt comfortable in making a small contribution and I told her - and her overly entitled mother - WHY it was the right thing to do. Our worst field here in Sac is better than anything those kids see day in, day out.
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My daughter doesn't get to interact with many black people on a regular basis, so experiences like these can't help but to shape her view of the world
This oreo shit with figgs and o'tre is going too far.
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I didn't have any doubt that she's a welfare queen-in-training, because I grew up in the 'hood and know their scent.
Unfortunately, because time was a factor (had a plane to catch in 3 hours) and because I had my family with me, the path of least resistance was to pay the protection money so that we'd be allowed to enjoy our ice cream in peace.
My daughter doesn't get to interact with many black people on a regular basis, so experiences like these can't help but to shape her view of the world. I haven't raised her to 'hate the poor' like so many do. In fact, a couple days earlier, we'd bought a pack of cloths while stopped at a red light from a group that was (supposedly) selling them for a local Little League team. The little boys had uniforms and everything. KNOWING how strapped they are for youth sports resources on the South Side, I felt comfortable in making a small contribution and I told her - and her overly entitled mother - WHY it was the right thing to do. Our worst field here in Sac is better than anything those kids see day in, day out.
I sure hope and pray that you're not raising a naive/innocent/trusting child that one day decides to take the train to the Austin neighborhood to see what all the fuss is about.....and ends up being a statistic.
Lord, oh Lord I hope not....
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If you give a man a fish,he will eat on that day.........if you teach him to fish,he will never go hungry.
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black girl has a solid build
since you are a schmoe extraordinaire you should have kept her mobile number- i am sure she had one- for future business
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I sure hope and pray that you're not raising a naive/innocent/trusting child that one day decides to take the train to the Austin neighborhood to see what all the fuss is about.....and ends up being a statistic.
Lord, oh Lord I hope not....
Her mother dislikes poor (black/Latino) people...not realizing that we're poor, too.
I've completely fucked up here by trying to do my best to provide for my daughter (and her mom). My parents and grandparents all worked to provide a middle-class lifestyle for us. There were precious few extras, ever, so I learned early on not to give a shit about brand names and the like. While other kids got fancy new clothes, my parents were saving every penny to be able to take my sister and me on eye-opening summer vacations throughout America.
I work hard, but have made it too easy for Mom to give her too much and have also done it directly myself. So as a result, she knows nothing at all about hardship. Mom does work hard with her business, too, but make no mistake - if I hadn't given her the initial capital she needed, she wouldn't be miss bigshot around town.
The genie can't be put back into the bottle. There's no way to start over. But I can take her to places and show her what the fuck is really out there for people who aren't so privileged as she's been. All I can hope is that an impression is being made. I don't want her to be a bleeding heart. But I want her to know how to spot a welfare queen...and how to properly hate those fucking bitches and the system that's created them.
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If you give a man a fish,he will eat on that day.........if you teach him to fish,he will never go hungry.
Yes Wes!!
Her parents showed her how to be and panhandle .... It's a skill she will uses her entire life
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Did people find it weird that you were taking pictures of a little girl?
The fuck is wrong with you?
I recall a member saying that to me one time - over a pic of my own daughter.
Where is PT now by the way?
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I used to love Chicago...my wife and I would pop in for a weekend a few times a year, hit the museums and Michigan ave and have some fun...it was unique. Now Michigan ave is like any mall you'll find, the crime rate is skyrocketing and you have some deadbeat bugging you every 10 steps. We had a chance to go this year for free for a meeting with a vendor...no thanks. It's a depressing place to be...
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Cliff notes please.
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In theory, she could be wearing sneakers that someone donated. I've donated Air Maxes, Air Flight Lites, Reebok DMXs, Reebok Pumps.
This...It's not like people are donating clothes from the 1950's. And if nobody "gave", shit would be taken.
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I didn't have any doubt that she's a welfare queen-in-training, because I grew up in the 'hood and know their scent.
Unfortunately, because time was a factor (had a plane to catch in 3 hours) and because I had my family with me, the path of least resistance was to pay the protection money so that we'd be allowed to enjoy our ice cream in peace.
My daughter doesn't get to interact with many black people on a regular basis, so experiences like these can't help but to shape her view of dark skinned black women. I haven't raised her to 'hate the poor' like so many do. In fact, a couple days earlier, we'd bought a pack of cloths while stopped at a red light from a group that was (supposedly) selling them for a local Little League team. The little boys had uniforms and everything. KNOWING how strapped they are for youth sports resources on the South Side, I felt comfortable in making a small contribution and I told her - and her overly entitled mother - WHY it was the right thing to do. Our worst field here in Sac is better than anything those kids see day in, day out.
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She was eyeing your daughter hard. Bet if she had been by herself or with friends she would be missing a couple of teeth and her shoes and cell. :-\
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She was eyeing your daughter hard. Bet if she had been by herself or with friends she would be missing a couple of teeth and her shoes and cell. :-\
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nope, salli grew up in chicago and has her grill in tact. o'tre and wiggs are taking this oreo gimmick thing too far. both are Homo negros.
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It's a difficult one. We all know what it's like to be pestered and when you eventually do cave in to these people, you feel so hollow because you realize you are just enabling them to continue this behaviour.
I don't give money on request any more, even to charity workers. The definition of charity is that I give up my earnings wilfully, after a careful thought process, not on a whim when the potential recipient sees fit.
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nope, salli grew up in chicago and has her grill in tact. o'tre and wiggs are taking this oreo gimmick thing too far. both are Homo negros.
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::) For a guy that's not even black, you take this "negro" thing too far. ::)
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::) For a guy that's not even black, you take this "negro" thing too far. ::)
Your grandpa's rule was one drop.
So, I'm black, conehead.
You mad? Your prison jumpsuit looks nice. I didn't know they came in turtlenecks.
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Start you own convict toy line.
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I used to love Chicago...my wife and I would pop in for a weekend a few times a year, hit the museums and Michigan ave and have some fun...it was unique. Now Michigan ave is like any mall you'll find, the crime rate is skyrocketing and you have some deadbeat bugging you every 10 steps. We had a chance to go this year for free for a meeting with a vendor...no thanks. It's a depressing place to be...
I have to agree. Back in the day, that element generally respected and stayed away from uptown. And even in the most crime-ravaged 'hoods in America, there was always an unwritten rule that doctors and nurses were off-limits, and this included medical students. Most of the doctors who've ever been mugged or killed outside their homes were victimized by white males.
North Michigan Ave is not yet overrun with Lil Wayne wannabes, but back in the 80s and 90s, you rarely if ever saw those people up there at all. They knew where they belonged and stayed there.
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Baby mama wasn't happy that Mo and I were so comfortable getting out of the car to go in and order our Lem's barbecue. "I'll stay in the car", she said, as she reclined the seat in an effort to conceal herself...but then put her feet up on the dash. Great camouflage. ::) She does the whole 'get me out of here' thing until the point when we're safely back on the freeway.
A few days later, I took baby mama into THE 'hood in our little rental car and she freaked when we stopped at a Jewel Osco to get some grape drank (well, Gatorade and water, but still) and shit. Store clerk freaked out when we paid in cash. The store was clean and there were regular folk in there doing their shopping. There was NO reason to be fearful or concerned. The parking lot had a couple of vagrants and some loiterers, but again, there was no reason for concern. It looked much like any typical Wal-Mart parking lot she goes into, just replacing the Whites with Blacks.
Again, though, she starts with the little commentary, when trust me, no one is going to mess with her. It often sounds as if she doesn't *want* our daughter to feel comfortable around 'these (black) people'. K always assumes she's safer in a neighborhood of Whites, even though they rip her off constantly.
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I'm always willing to give money but I always ask for a blowjob first.
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Baby mama wasn't happy that Mo and I were so comfortable getting out of the car to go in and order our Lem's barbecue. "I'll stay in the car", she said, as she reclined the seat in an effort to conceal herself...but then put her feet up on the dash. Great camouflage. ::) She does the whole 'get me out of here' thing until the point when we're safely back on the freeway.
A few days later, I took baby mama into THE 'hood in our little rental car and she freaked when we stopped at a Jewel Osco to get some grape drank (well, Gatorade and water, but still) and shit. Store clerk freaked out when we paid in cash. The store was clean and there were regular folk in there doing their shopping. There was NO reason to be fearful or concerned. The parking lot had a couple of vagrants and some loiterers, but again, there was no reason for concern. It looked much like any typical Wal-Mart parking lot she goes into, just replacing the Whites with Blacks.
Again, though, she starts with the little commentary, when trust me, no one is going to mess with her. It often sounds as if she doesn't *want* our daughter to feel comfortable around 'these (black) people'. K always assumes she's safer in a neighborhood of Whites, even though they rip her off constantly.
There's a long list of top black colleges you can send your daughter too. Then, everyone will safe around the Parker types.
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you or your family arent responsible for this girl's life, education. It 's her parents choice first and foremost if she ends living that way. They gave birth to her and "offered" her that kind of life.
You d be more helpful telling her to get a fucking job and to stay away from the influence of her parents, ponctuating your lesson with a slap in the face. You actually encouraged her to keep doing that low life stuff, you didnt help anyone the least as she ll keep doing the same retarded, immature shit with other people once you re gone. You actually reinforced her behavior instead of teaching her she could have a different behavior.
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Chicago was one of the greatest American cities but has gone downhill.
Agree with just about everything you said...but I wouldn't have given her any money, that encourages the behavior. And if your going to give something, buy the food instead of giving the dollars which are more likely to go to bad habits.
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Chicago is turning into a total shithole. An unprecendent number of murders this year. I wouldn't step foot there unless paid.
Sucks about your situation Tre, but you handled it well.
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G string with a classic double post meltdown.
Poor guy wants to be black so bad. :(
I guess it is a step up from the mexican he is. :)
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G string with a classic double post meltdown.
Poor guy wants to be black so bad. :(
I guess it is a step up from the mexican he is. :)
Gi is Mexican?? I never knew that. Doesn't be know that brown is the new black?? ;D
Chicago was one of the greatest American cities but has gone downhill.
Agree with just about everything you said...but I wouldn't have given her any money, that encourages the behavior. And if your going to give something, buy the food instead of giving the dollars which are more likely to go to bad habits.
Agreed - in general, if I felt someone was truly in need, I'd buy them food. I've never had a problem with that and I definitely do not like reinforcing bad behaviors.
But in this case, it was an experience I wanted the family to enjoy (had been looking forward to it all week, in fact), and we were up against the clock. It was a calculated decision that the $2 'loan' would buy us 15 minutes of peace and prevent any sort of escalation of the incident.
If this was 15 years ago (before I was a family man, of course), the outcome would've been very different.
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It's all how you look at it. Some crackhead asking you for money is no big deal. Sounds like you lead a pretty sheltered life (not a flame).
Your daughter needs to get exposed to all aspects of life and society so when she's grown up she doesn't get taken advantage of people like that bum. I grew up in white suburbia and learned a few inexpensive lessons from bums/panhandlers the hard way on my own.
By giving homeless/panhandlers money (unless they are physically disabled like in wheelchair)it is an incentive for them to go out and beg again. They have no reason to get a job/make honest living if people like you give them money for absolutely nothing...even if it is just 1 cent!
Why be soft on these assholes? If you fuck up at your job your manager/HR/supervisor will have your ass written up for the most asinine shit ...so why take shit from people that have 0 control over you?
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I have to agree. Back in the day, that element generally respected and stayed away from uptown. And even in the most crime-ravaged 'hoods in America, there was always an unwritten rule that doctors and nurses were off-limits, and this included medical students. Most of the doctors who've ever been mugged or killed outside their homes were victimized by white males.
North Michigan Ave is not yet overrun with Lil Wayne wannabes, but back in the 80s and 90s, you rarely if ever saw those people up there at all. They knew where they belonged and stayed there.
When I'm in the city, I live in the Astor Street historic district. We've been fortunate to have avoided many of the "urban youth" problems some of the other Gold Coast neighborhoods have experienced. I'd attribute that to an active police presence, community involvement, and good old-fashioned community pride. You want to play "Lil Wayne" in my neighborhood - then expect me to come over and ask you WTF your problem is? Interesting to see how quickly the hood rat cockroaches scatter, when they realize their shit won't play here.
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LMAO!
She was a crach head!
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Cliff notes please.
Coach likes soapy studs.
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I only give someone money if they have a kid with them.
I always give in to the same thing.. :-\
I once saw a young woman (mid-30's) in a NYC subway station (Lexington & 53rd St.) with a newborn (probably 3 months old) asking for money in order to feed the child.
While I know her intentions might have been questionable, I could not help but to give her $80 that I had in my wallet and I even gave her my office number to see about maybe getting her some help (temporary home, formula for the baby and food/clothing for the two of them).
Sadly, I never heard from her again.
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Maybe she is the best basketball player at the homeless shelter. ???
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I'm always willing to give money but I always ask for a blowjob first.
Some junkie girl approached myself and a co worker at a lunchstand a few years ago and said she do anything for a few bucks...then she repeated "anything" while motioning to the bathroom accross the hall. I actually thought about if or a second...
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Some junkie girl approached myself and a co worker at a lunchstand a few years ago and said she do anything for a few bucks...then she repeated "anything" while motioning to the bathroom accross the hall. I actually thought about if or a second...
Did your car needed to be washed? Errands needed to be run? Air in your tires, oil needed to be changed? Car vacuumed?
She did say "anything".
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Return to the ice cream shop for vengence. Best served cold, etc.
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I live just outside Chicago. The mass tourists spots like Michigan ave & museum areas have a lot of fucktards looking for trouble. But my philosophy is that you can be robbed or stabbed anywhere. These fucks always look for easy targets like women & people on cell phones without a clue what's going on around them.
Always stay vigilante & aware of your surroundings.
The areas to stay away from are south & west sides.
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Good thing you're colored Tre
If you were white, this would've happened
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When the bum walks up to you before they say a word, you say: " bro do you have $0.50 I need a cup of coffee" works every time they laugh and leave or I've had them actually try to give me the $.
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Some guidelines from a Manual
National Review writer John Derbyshire wrote an enlightening column that is essential to and urging white parents to talk to their children about staying away from black people they don't know.
(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.
(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.
(10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).
(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.
(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.
(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.
(10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.
(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.
(10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving.
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Chicago was one of the greatest American cities but has gone downhill.
Agree with just about everything you said...but I wouldn't have given her any money, that encourages the behavior. And if your going to give something, buy the food instead of giving the dollars which are more likely to go to bad habits.
What's good Doc?
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Some guidelines from a Manual
National Review writer John Derbyshire wrote an enlightening column that is essential to and urging white parents to talk to their children about staying away from black people they don't know.
(10a) Avoid concentrations of blacks not all known to you personally.
(10b) Stay out of heavily black neighborhoods.
(10c) If planning a trip to a beach or amusement park at some date, find out whether it is likely to be swamped with blacks on that date (neglect of that one got me the closest I have ever gotten to death by gunshot).
(10d) Do not attend events likely to draw a lot of blacks.
(10e) If you are at some public event at which the number of blacks suddenly swells, leave as quickly as possible.
(10f) Do not settle in a district or municipality run by black politicians.
(10g) Before voting for a black politician, scrutinize his/her character much more carefully than you would a white.
(10h) Do not act the Good Samaritan to blacks in apparent distress, e.g., on the highway.
(10i) If accosted by a strange black in the street, smile and say something polite but keep moving.
10i is bullshit. Never turn your back on the fucking apes. Also never say anything nor smile. Just punch the fucker in the face and rip our his eyes and step on them. Blacks are fucking degenerates. Show them you're in charge and they scurry away like cockroaches.
Another effective measure is yelling "KFC on 1st street is giving away 100 free buckets" Fuckers will be gone faster than Ussain Bolt.
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Here is what I say to anyone asking for money.
"I will give you the dollar but first I’d like you to tell me that you are a false prophet. I’d like you to tell me that you are, and have been, a false prophet, and that God is a superstition."
Its always interesting to see their reaction to that.
good stuff right there. gonna use that
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Here is what I say to anyone asking for money.
"I will give you the dollar but first I’d like you to tell me that you are a false prophet. I’d like you to tell me that you are, and have been, a false prophet, and that God is a superstition."
Its always interesting to see their reaction to that.
LOL classic, one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history
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Her mother dislikes poor (black/Latino) people...not realizing that we're poor, too.
I've completely fucked up here by trying to do my best to provide for my daughter (and her mom). My parents and grandparents all worked to provide a middle-class lifestyle for us. There were precious few extras, ever, so I learned early on not to give a shit about brand names and the like. While other kids got fancy new clothes, my parents were saving every penny to be able to take my sister and me on eye-opening summer vacations throughout America.
I work hard, but have made it too easy for Mom to give her too much and have also done it directly myself. So as a result, she knows nothing at all about hardship. Mom does work hard with her business, too, but make no mistake - if I hadn't given her the initial capital she needed, she wouldn't be miss bigshot around town.
The genie can't be put back into the bottle. There's no way to start over. But I can take her to places and show her what the fuck is really out there for people who aren't so privileged as she's been. All I can hope is that an impression is being made. I don't want her to be a bleeding heart. But I want her to know how to spot a welfare queen...and how to properly hate those fucking bitches and the system that's created them.
You seem like an interesting guy, but ::) ::) ::) ::) at that. My parents had the exact same attitude. My dad grew up the middle child in a family of six thousand, and my mom's dad was a dirt poor farmer. By the time I was born, my dad had a solid job, and my mom, well, probably wouldn't have dreamed of sniffing the kind of money he was making in a thousand years when she was growing up.
And as my brothers and I grew up, they took the exact same attitude you're showing here. They were absolutely terrified us kids wouldn't know hardship, and would become entitled little punks without a clue in the world about the value of hard work. They probably had nightmares we would become live-in thirty year olds and suck them dry, leaving the whole family worse off than than even their parents were.
I assure you, your daughter knows hardship. She's a human just the same as you or I, and her feelings are shaped by her circumstances, just the same as anyone else. People always warn the privileged about "taking things for granted" -- if ms. crackhead on the streets isn't phased when she can't have nice clothes, why should your kids be, right? Well, they are. That's their hardship. It doesn't hurt a bum that he can't have nice clothes, a car, etc. or he would perish. It does hurt a well-to-do kid whose parents are trying to "teach them a lesson." It doesn't hurt some tribesman to have to walk to the well for water -- he's done it his whole life. It does hurt a pampered upper class first worlder.
But more importantly than this, your daughter doesn't live in the same world you grew up in. It sounds like you've worked hard to make a better life for your family than you had growing up. If that's what you want (and I suspect most people do), then you have to realize your children aren't going to have the same values as you. Trying to simultaneously give them a better childhood than you had while instilling all the same values that were drilled into you will never work. It's a twisted aim.
My parents tried to do this, and I quickly lost all respect for them. I hope your kids don't follow suit.
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All the racist posts have been reported. Not bodybuilding related. PTPP.
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My daughter doesn't get to interact with many black people on a regular basis, so experiences like these can't help but to shape her view of dark skinned black women.
fixed
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Then again, Benny B says my views are distorted. :-\
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What's happening big Mike! Hope all is well in FLA. You come back at all?
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Good thing you're colored Tre
If you were white, this would've happened
Does any of these monkeys actually know how easy it is to kill somebody if they hit the curb or what ever?
Fucking subhuman scum
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Her mother dislikes poor (black/Latino) people...not realizing that we're poor, too.
I've completely fucked up here by trying to do my best to provide for my daughter (and her mom). My parents and grandparents all worked to provide a middle-class lifestyle for us. There were precious few extras, ever, so I learned early on not to give a shit about brand names and the like. While other kids got fancy new clothes, my parents were saving every penny to be able to take my sister and me on eye-opening summer vacations throughout America.
I work hard, but have made it too easy for Mom to give her too much and have also done it directly myself. So as a result, she knows nothing at all about hardship. Mom does work hard with her business, too, but make no mistake - if I hadn't given her the initial capital she needed, she wouldn't be miss bigshot around town.
The genie can't be put back into the bottle. There's no way to start over. But I can take her to places and show her what the fuck is really out there for people who aren't so privileged as she's been. All I can hope is that an impression is being made. I don't want her to be a bleeding heart. But I want her to know how to spot a welfare queen...and how to properly hate those fucking bitches and the system that's created them.
Tre in all fairness you sound like a great father, but I think you worry too much, don't try so hard to show her the other side of the medal - kids figure that out by themselves as well, I do the same approach with my son in regards to animals - I don't push him I don't pressure him I just let it happen - he shows a great interest in animals anything from a small worm to my pet tarantula and I take a lot of time to explain him stuff but I know also that he may grow up not liking animals as much as I do, so I can't force that.
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Does any of these monkeys actually know how easy it is to kill somebody if they hit the curb or what ever?
Fucking subhuman scum
I wonder if they even care.
They didn't seem to care that much for that poor persons wellbeing at all.
And they all shared the same mentality, not just one-two people, but seemed like the whole neighbourhood was the same, didn't help the poor fellow at all. Didn't care.
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anyone would think she tried to mug you at gunpoint or something. a child asked for a couple of $s big fucking deal ::)
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anyone would think she tried to mug you at gunpoint or something. a child asked for a couple of $s big fucking deal ::)
Who knows, maybe she did an analysis for her accomplices to see how well he was financially.
If he was a potential target.
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I work on an ambulance and deal with this ghetto mentality all the time. I'm always in and out the hood doin calls. Not racist, but the reality is poor blacks treat their elderly like shit, work the system (while having iPhones, air Jordan's etc) and their houses are wretched. Poor Hispanics on the other hand are great to their elders and the vast majority have clean homes
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Here is what I say to anyone asking for money.
"I will give you the dollar but first I’d like you to tell me that you are a false prophet. I’d like you to tell me that you are, and have been, a false prophet, and that God is a superstition."
Its always interesting to see their reaction to that.
hahah that would be good
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When the bum walks up to you before they say a word, you say: " bro do you have $0.50 I need a cup of coffee" works every time they laugh and leave or I've had them actually try to give me the $.
nice
its best to never criticise blacks you gotta be nice to them in all situations
they are hard to work with because if you criticize/scrutinize there work they get uncomfortable and less friendly, as a whitey theres no hope if you made the black man man unless you hand em over alot of money
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It had been a wonderful week with the family in Chicago. My daughter had been before, but it was the first time her mother had ever gotten an opportunity to visit some of the world's finest museums.
On our final day, I thought it would be great to introduce both to the architecture of Frank Lloyd Wright, so we drove out to Oak Park, which is a vastly different community than it was 20 years ago. Those of you familiar with urban creep know what I'm talking about. Section 8 has allowed the 'hood to infest once-genteel neighborhoods and towns all over America and sadly, not even a pristine, historically all-American village like Oak Park is immune.
After a brief walking tour of one of the more historic sections of town, I wanted to share with them the experience of ice cream at one of the true landmark spots in Chicago, Petersen's, a little place I'd discovered back in the days when I used to get off the train at random spots and just wander after a week at Great Lakes.
While looking over the selection of treats, a young woman came in and requested a chocolate sample. The scooper pleasantly obliged her and then the strange woman turned to me and asked whether she could 'borrow' two dollars (why is it always two dollars??) to get some food, because she was hungry. She even rubbed her tummy to denote the hunger. K was in the washroom and Mojo was looking at ice cream, so no one else other than the scoopers and I saw what was going on. I looked her in the eye as I ignored her question and went on about my business.
But she did not leave. Instead she moved a bit, watched as we placed our order, then repositioned herself and with desperate eyes held out her hand to me. I then pulled $2 from my wallet and said, "I'm going to give you this, but then you have to leave. You can't be here." She shook her head in agreement, took the money, said a quick 'thank-you' and ran out.
By this point, K was back and then asked me what that was about, of course. So, I had to explain, while at the same time making sure that my daughter knew that charity had *nothing* to do with my desire to enjoy a family outing in peace so that we wouldn't have to deal with the begging from a girl wearing Air Jordans while I'm wearing a pair of discontinued Pumas that I got for $30 at the second-hand store.
OAK PARK is right next too the WESTSIDE of Chicago, so of course the " hood " will be moving into there. Have family that lives in oak park AND theres SECTION 8 all over the Western surburbs of chicago. Theres section 8 Apartments, townhomes and pretty sure a few houses 5 min down the street from me, and then on the other side of my town.
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I live just outside Chicago. The mass tourists spots like Michigan ave & museum areas have a lot of fucktards looking for trouble. But my philosophy is that you can be robbed or stabbed anywhere. These fucks always look for easy targets like women & people on cell phones without a clue what's going on around them.
Always stay vigilante & aware of your surroundings.
The areas to stay away from are south & west sides.
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Uncle Tre engaging in his usual getbig 'coonery & buffoonery.' ::)
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You seem like an interesting guy, but ::) ::) ::) ::) at that. My parents had the exact same attitude. My dad grew up the middle child in a family of six thousand, and my mom's dad was a dirt poor farmer. By the time I was born, my dad had a solid job, and my mom, well, probably wouldn't have dreamed of sniffing the kind of money he was making in a thousand years when she was growing up.
And as my brothers and I grew up, they took the exact same attitude you're showing here. They were absolutely terrified us kids wouldn't know hardship, and would become entitled little punks without a clue in the world about the value of hard work. They probably had nightmares we would become live-in thirty year olds and suck them dry, leaving the whole family worse off than than even their parents were.
I assure you, your daughter knows hardship. She's a human just the same as you or I, and her feelings are shaped by her circumstances, just the same as anyone else. People always warn the privileged about "taking things for granted" -- if ms. crackhead on the streets isn't phased when she can't have nice clothes, why should your kids be, right? Well, they are. That's their hardship. It doesn't hurt a bum that he can't have nice clothes, a car, etc. or he would perish. It does hurt a well-to-do kid whose parents are trying to "teach them a lesson." It doesn't hurt some tribesman to have to walk to the well for water -- he's done it his whole life. It does hurt a pampered upper class first worlder.
But more importantly than this, your daughter doesn't live in the same world you grew up in. It sounds like you've worked hard to make a better life for your family than you had growing up. If that's what you want (and I suspect most people do), then you have to realize your children aren't going to have the same values as you. Trying to simultaneously give them a better childhood than you had while instilling all the same values that were drilled into you will never work. It's a twisted aim.
My parents tried to do this, and I quickly lost all respect for them. I hope your kids don't follow suit.
Thanks for this post, man. While I can't envision my daughter losing respect for me, I know exactly what you're saying about the worlds we grow up in being so different from generation-to-generation. I did work hard, but I also have been VERY LUCKY with respect to being able to provide more for my family than my parents were able to.
I have always focused on experiences having infinitely more value than things/stuff, but I do lament having made too many purchases, often unearned, and really regret having given her mom so much spending authority. Sounds shitty to say, but it is our reality. Mom was never really a brand whore before (except for her 70-dollar sweatpants), but now she's got my daughter obsessed with this Abercrombie/Hollister brand that whores out young teenage fashion models in order to make sales to parents who have more dollars than sense.
I'm sure I'll make many more mistakes as a dad in the years to come, but the great concern isn't so much the daily missteps rather that so many critical errors I've made in laying her foundation. :-[
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Around 5 years ago I hired a villa in a pretty bad bit of Kissimee Florida. One the second night my wife, myself and son and daughter were watchin tv at around 11.00 pm when the doorbell rang.
I looked thru the peephole and saw a black guy aged around 25 standing there.
I opened the door and he had a pizza box in his hand and said "pizza delivery". Fuck, I thought, the kunt is going to try and mug us, pretendin to be deliverying pizzas. I curled my hand into a fist in preparation of knocking his head off and politely said "no man, i didnt order no pizza". He said the address was 26 whatever road and I said "yup, this is 26 whaever road but I didn't order no pizza". He then said he would call his office to clarify the address. He pulled out his cell phone and then declaired that his battery was flat and "can I come in and use your phone?". I told him to hold on a minute and closed the door. By this time I was convinced he was going to try and rob us or even kill us. My 14 year old son was standing next to me and I said "in life there will be kunts who try and fuck with you and this guy is definately one of them but never be a victim son, just watch what your old ex UK military bodybuilding dad does".
I then opened the door and punched the black fellow right between the eyes. He fell on the ground like a tree being felled in the forrest.
"Thats what you do with scum who try to fuck with you" I told my son. "Pretendin to be a pizza guy of all things, how dumb does he think we are?"
My son then pointed to his van which was covered in Pizza delivery logos, turns out he was a pizza guy after all.
I slapped him awake and gave him $200 to keep quiet. Meanwhile the guy at 28 whatever road had seen the van and came out to get his pizzas.
Moral is, dont assume a balck guy turning up at your house at 11.00 pm who then claims to have a pizza for you and then claims his cell phone is flat
is actually trying to rob you and rape your kids. I blame the US media for stirring up this racial steriotype. ;D
This is 100% true by the way.....
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Around 5 years ago I hired a villa in a pretty bad bit of Kissimee Florida. One the second night my wife, myself and son and daughter were watchin tv at around 11.00 pm when the doorbell rang.
I looked thru the peephole and saw a black guy aged around 25 standing there.
I opened the door and he had a pizza box in his hand and said "pizza delivery". Fuck, I thought, the kunt is going to try and mug us, pretendin to be deliverying pizzas. I curled my hand into a fist in preparation of knocking his head off and politely said "no man, i didnt order no pizza". He said the address was 26 whatever road and I said "yup, this is 26 whaever road but I didn't order no pizza". He then said he would call his office to clarify the address. He pulled out his cell phone and then declaired that his battery was flat and "can I come in and use your phone?". I told him to hold on a minute and closed the door. By this time I was convinced he was going to try and rob us or even kill us. My 14 year old son was standing next to me and I said "in life there will be kunts who try and fuck with you and this guy is definately one of them but never be a victim son, just watch what your old ex UK military bodybuilding dad does".
I then opened the door and punched the black fellow right between the eyes. He fell on the ground like a tree being felled in the forrest.
"Thats what you do with scum who try to fuck with you" I told my son. "Pretendin to be a pizza guy of all things, how dumb does he think we are?"
My son then pointed to his van which was covered in Pizza delivery logos, turns out he was a pizza guy after all.
I slapped him awake and gave him $200 to keep quiet. Meanwhile the guy at 28 whatever road had seen the van and came out to get his pizzas.
Moral is, dont assume a balck guy turning up at your house at 11.00 pm who then claims to have a pizza for you and then claims his cell phone is flat
is actually trying to rob you and rape your kids. I blame the US media for stirring up this racial steriotype. ;D
This is 100% true by the way.....
Epic story Big Al, those wee blackie gadges wouldn't dare try tae mess with a burly Scot!
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Epic story Big Al, those wee blackie gadges wouldn't dare try tae mess with a burly Scot!
Well said Raymondo, if the kunt had known I was not just Scottish and not just Glasgow Scottish but Bridgeton, Glasgow, Scottish he would not have dared even come near our house ;D ;D
Bridgeton Billy Boys ya Bass...... ;D
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Based on porn vids...A real pizza guy would have asked for $200 and at least oral from your wife...he might not have been a real pizza guy.
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Based on porn vids...A real pizza guy would have asked for $200 and at least oral from your wife...he might not have been a real pizza guy.
Even if Big Al had ordered a pizza, the wise choice for the pizza guy would have been to apologise and leave.
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Based on porn vids...A real pizza guy would have asked for $200 and at least oral from your wife...he might not have been a real pizza guy.
Ha ha, my wife might have even suggested it, she's always wanted to try black but they are thin on the ground in Scotland ;D
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Even if Big Al had ordered a pizza, the wise choice for the pizza guy would have been to apologise and leave.
Thats right Raymondo, the guy should have just given me the pizza and left. That way he would have kept all his teeth.
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Thats right Raymondo, the guy should have just given me the pizza and left. That way he would have kept all his teeth.
Those gangbangers are so tough, throw them into soapdodging territory on a Saturday night and let's see if there'd be any of them left by Sunday morning.
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Those gangbangers are so tough, throw them into soapdodging territory on a Saturday night and let's see if there'd be any of them left by Sunday morning.
Yeah, the smell and rough bearded faces would terrify these american gangbangers on a saturday night in Glasgow. And thats just the women. :D
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Yeah, the smell and rough bearded faces would terrify these american gangbangers on a saturday night in Glasgow. And thats just the women. :D
Hahaha, yes Big Al and once the men got through with them all that would be left would be a gang of scared black teenagers with Glasgow grins on their faces ;D ;D
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During that holiday we went to seaworld and while we were walking out of the place to leave there were two wiggers mouthin off at each other. At one point one of them (guy of 22, 6ft 2 200 lbs) shouted that he would "kick your mutherfukin ass" at the other guy. He had no respect for the kids in earshot including my 10 year old girl so I saw red. I grabbed him by his 13 inch arm and told him to shut the fuck up or I would boot the shit out of him. He looked at my 45 year old 5ft 11, 245 lb body with 18.5 inch arms and military tatoos and immediately shit his pants. "sorry sir" he mumbled. Black or white, your gangbangers are pussies.
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During that holiday we went to seaworld and while we were walking out of the place to leave there were two wiggers mouthin off at each other. At one point one of them (guy of 22, 6ft 2 200 lbs) shouted that he would "kick your mutherfukin ass" at the other guy. He had no respect for the kids in earshot including my 10 year old girl so I saw red. I grabbed him by his 13 inch arm and told him to shut the fuck up or I would boot the shit out of him. He looked at my 45 year old 5ft 11, 245 lb body with 18.5 inch arms and military tatoos and immediately shit his pants. "sorry sir" he mumbled. Black or white, your gangbangers are pussies.
Lol, that great would pay $ to see the video