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Title: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: blacken700 on August 16, 2012, 12:31:55 PM
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/obama-camp-on-romneys-latest-tax-talk-prove

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Romney "has forfeited the right to have us take him just at his word," Obama spokesperson Lis Smith said. Her full statement:

“Mitt Romney today said that he did indeed ‘go back and look’ at his tax returns and that he never paid less than 13% in taxes in any year over the past decade. Since there is substantial reason to doubt his claims, we have a simple message for him: prove it. Even though he’s invested millions in foreign tax havens, offshore shell corporations, and a Swiss bank account, he’s still asking the American people to trust him. However, given Mitt Romney's secrecy about his returns, coupled with the revelations in just the one return we have seen to date and the inconsistencies between this one return and his other financial disclosures, he has forfeited the right to have us take him just at his word.”

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=158909304
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Obama campaign Lis Smith responded by telling Romney to "prove it."

"He has forfeited the right to have us take him just at his word," Smith said.

White House spokesman Jay Carney declined to comment on Romney's tax rate. He said Democratic President Barack Obama believes "the tradition for presidential candidates to put forward multiple years of their tax returns is a useful and valuable one. Not always comfortable."54 
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: blacken700 on August 16, 2012, 12:33:39 PM
 :D :D :D

 Reid Dismisses Romney Tax Claim

“We'll believe it when we see it,” says spokesman in response to Romney's assertion Thursday that he's paid at least 13% of his income in taxes every year for the last decade.


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s office isn’t backing down from its charges Mitt Romney may have not paid taxes over the years and demanding he release a decades worth or returns – despite Romney’s assertion Thursday that he’s paid at least 13 percent in taxes over the last decade.

"We'll believe it when we see it. Until Mitt Romney releases his tax returns, Americans will continue to wonder what he's hiding. Romney seems to think he plays by a different set of rules than every other presidential candidate for the last thirty years, all of whom lived up to the standard of transparency set by Mitt Romney's father and released their tax returns," Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson told Buzzfeed in a statement Thursday.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 16, 2012, 03:04:00 PM
This ain't Sharia law. The burden of proof is on the ACCUSER, not the accused.

It's Reid who needs to "prove it", not use nameless sources and other hot air, especially in light of Romney having released two years of returns.

How can Romney not pay taxes in 10 years, with the last two years of tax returns released that say he did pay them?
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
Romney "has forfeited the right to have us take him just at his word," Obama spokesperson Lis Smith said. Her full statement:

This is fair - ROmney has been caught in little fibs.   He can't claim something then hide the evidence which supports that.

Would be fine to say "I'm not going to talk taxes, now bug off" - Perfectly acceptable.

But to tell us specific numbers - then not providing evidence - is worthy of criticism.

He wants the props of paying full amount but none of the critique that comes with it.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 16, 2012, 03:14:28 PM
This is fair - ROmney has been caught in little fibs.   He can't claim something then hide the evidence which supports that.

Would be fine to say "I'm not going to talk taxes, now bug off" - Perfectly acceptable.

But to tell us specific numbers - then not providing evidence - is worthy of criticism.

He wants the props of paying full amount but none of the critique that comes with it.

Reid claims Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years. Where's his proof of that? Why aren't you demanding that the accuser show his evidence to back his claims?

Or, is it Sharia-style rules, when it involves Obama's opponents?
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: tu_holmes on August 16, 2012, 03:16:41 PM
This ain't Sharia law. The burden of proof is on the ACCUSER, not the accused.

It's Reid who needs to "prove it", not use nameless sources and other hot air, especially in light of Romney having released two years of returns.

How can Romney not pay taxes in 10 years, with the last two years of tax returns released that say he did pay them?

Where the fuck was that talk when Obama and every fucking government agency said they had seen his birth certificate... They made the goddam President of the United States produce his fucking birth certificate for every dumbass on the planet, but then we have to just believe FORMER governor Romney when he says "trust me" on his tax returns?

HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 16, 2012, 03:23:46 PM
Where the fuck was that talk when Obama and every fucking government agency said they had seen his birth certificate... They made the goddam President of the United States produce his fucking birth certificate for every dumbass on the planet, but then we have to just believe FORMER governor Romney when he says "trust me" on his tax returns?

HAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!

HAHA THIS!!

Romney already released his tax returns. Reid is talking this foolishness (from sources he can't or won't name) claiming that Romney hasn't paid taxes in ten years. If Romney released the last two years of his returns, that claim of Reid and his anonymous birdie are BOGUS.

Again, the burden goes on the accuser, not the accused. But, with Obama's plunging poll numbers, Romney's taxes are the least of their problems. Reid better concern himself with his being dropped to MINORITY leader of the Senate.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: tu_holmes on August 16, 2012, 03:25:08 PM
HAHA THIS!!

Romney already released his tax returns. Reid is talking this foolishness (from sources he can't or won't name) claiming that Romney hasn't paid taxes in ten years. If Romney released the last two years of his returns, that claim of Reid and his anonymous birdie are BOGUS.

Again, the burden goes on the accuser, not the accused. But, with Obama's plunging poll numbers, Romney's taxes are the least of their problems. Reid better concern himself with his being dropped to MINORITY leader of the Senate.

It's ridiculous!!!

This entire thing is stupid... All of them are idiots.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2012, 03:26:14 PM
It's ridiculous!!!

This entire thing is stupid... All of them are idiots.

If romney committed tax fraud - don't you think he would have been sued by the IRS? 
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 16, 2012, 03:28:48 PM
It's ridiculous!!!

This entire thing is stupid... All of them are idiots.

Of course, this is ridiculous. But what do you expect, when you have these libs, desperately trying to defend Obama's abysmal record?

As I said, look for them to accuse Ryan of human sacrifice, before this election is over.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: tu_holmes on August 16, 2012, 03:32:43 PM
If romney committed tax fraud - don't you think he would have been sued by the IRS? 

I'm not saying he committed fraud... I'm saying that it's bullshit... All of it.

He's full of shit... fine... the IRS has whatever it has, I'm not saying he didn't fill the forms out properly... I'm saying that the Republicans didn't believe Obama even after EVERYONE had vetted that he was a US citizens.

So what the fuck?!
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2012, 03:46:23 PM
Reid claims Romney hasn't paid taxes in 10 years. Where's his proof of that?

perfect response?  I'm not talking about my taxes.  Next question.

Answering it with an unlikely answer, he's going to get pressed for proof.  Any millionaire who paid that much over the last 10 years is a swell fcking guy who deseves to be commended.

Now - if and when it leaks and we see he paid less at some point (legally) - he'll be tied to these lies - instead of "hey, I dont talk taxes, move on champ".
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Fury on August 16, 2012, 04:36:46 PM
Simple Jack, why won't you talk about the economy? You honestly start five to six threads a day on this. And why the fuck isn't Hugo merging all these threads? How many threads about this stupid topic do we need on the front page?

Good example of how this board has gone to shit. Fucking sheeple.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: blacken700 on August 16, 2012, 04:48:22 PM
Simple Jack, why won't you talk about the economy? You honestly start five to six threads a day on this. And why the fuck isn't Hugo merging all these threads? How many threads about this stupid topic do we need on the front page?

Good example of how this board has gone to shit. Fucking sheeple.

mama's boy acting tough again,its getting old everyone on here knows your a pussy that lives with his mommy,and to top it off plays with transformers, :D what a geek :D :D
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Fury on August 16, 2012, 04:53:17 PM
Calls someone a pussy while running a dozen gimmicks and refusing to post a pic. What a funny retard.

Answer the question, bitch.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Straw Man on August 16, 2012, 04:55:31 PM
The Romney's won't release the returns because there is something in the returns that is more damaging to the campaign then not releasing them

It's that simple and both sides know it which is why Obama will keep bringing and Romney will keep crying about it.

btw -what's up with Ryan only releasing 2 years when Romney required him to provide several years

Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Fury on August 16, 2012, 04:56:55 PM
The Romney's won't release the returns because there is something in the returns that is more damaging to the campaign then not releasing them

It's that simple and both sides know it which is why Obama will keep bringing and Romney will keep crying about it.

btw -what's up with Ryan only releasing 2 years when Romney required him to provide several years



Why are you so afraid to talk about the economy?
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: blacken700 on August 16, 2012, 05:04:28 PM
Calls someone a pussy while running a dozen gimmicks and refusing to post a pic. What a funny retard.

Answer the question, bitch.

hahahaha the getbig pussy wants a picture of a guy so he can jerk off to it ,your not only a geeky nerd but your a sick fuck :D :D. does your mommy know about this sickness  ;D
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Fury on August 16, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
Bitch Status: Approved

Why won't you answer the question, Simple Jack?
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: a_ahmed on August 16, 2012, 06:02:49 PM
Shari'ah style law? What are you guys babbling about lol... ah the brainwashed ignorance of some of you... the irony in this is you are scolding hear say by using your own hearsay.

Under Shari'ah law, any accusation put forth, the accuser must have proof of. If they are found to be a liar the victim who was accused of the lies is to be re-compensated and the accuser with falsity is to be punished in some way for slandering an innocent person.

Just the above is a minor meh moment... the real issue is that you guys are FIGHTING over one party or another party when they are the SAME SHIT... period! You are being fooled by one liar for another liar and vice versa. You are wasting your time... all of them are garbage.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: 240 is Back on August 16, 2012, 06:07:22 PM
The Romney's won't release the returns because there is something in the returns that is more damaging to the campaign then not releasing them

He has admitted this.  Said it would be damaging due to dems picking at the details.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 16, 2012, 07:42:48 PM
The Romney's won't release the returns because there is something in the returns that is more damaging to the campaign then not releasing them

It's that simple and both sides know it which is why Obama will keep bringing and Romney will keep crying about it.

btw -what's up with Ryan only releasing 2 years when Romney required him to provide several years



Because the Dems are desperate for sideshows to keep the focus off Obama's pathetic record. Reid has no proof of his allegations and he knows it. Romney released two years of returns, which shows he paid taxes on them. So, the claim of 10 years without paying taxes is a bald-faced LIE by Reid and the rest of the Obama supporters. Between his previous run for president and his campaign for governor of Massachusetts, if he hadn't paid taxes in a decade, such woudl have been discovered long before now with ACTUAL LEGITIMATE NAMED SOURCES to back it up.

And, for all of this tax obsession, they're still struggling to stay statistically tied with Romney in the polls. Now, the youth vote is dwindling for their side. An incumbent president with approval ratings in the low 40s is recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 16, 2012, 07:46:36 PM
Because the Dems are desperate for sideshows to keep the focus off Obama's pathetic record. Reid has no proof of his allegations and he knows it. Romney released two years of returns, which shows he paid taxes on them. So, the claim of 10 years without paying taxes is a bald-faced LIE by Reid and the rest of the Obama supporters. Between his previous run for president and his campaign for governor of Massachusetts, if he hadn't paid taxes in a decade, such woudl have been discovered long before now with ACTUAL LEGITIMATE NAMED SOURCES to back it up.

And, for all of this tax obsession, they're still struggling to stay statistically tied with Romney in the polls. Now, the youth vote is dwindling for their side. An incumbent president with approval ratings in the low 40s is recipe for disaster.


It's so funny - there is not even one Obama sycophant on this board even defending the Obama record. 
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Kazan on August 16, 2012, 07:48:35 PM

It's so funny - there is not even one Obama sycophant on this board even defending the Obama record. 

What's to defend? Trying to defend that shit show, only means you like the idea of America failing
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Kazan on August 16, 2012, 07:50:10 PM
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Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Kazan on August 16, 2012, 07:51:06 PM
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Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Kazan on August 16, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Harry has some splanin to do.....
(http://peoplescube.virtualestates.netdna-cdn.com/images/various_uploads/Harry_Reid_Wereworf_Babies_OWS.jpg)

I think he needs to prove this isn't factual
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Straw Man on August 16, 2012, 08:26:16 PM
Harry has some splanin to do.....
(http://peoplescube.virtualestates.netdna-cdn.com/images/various_uploads/Harry_Reid_Wereworf_Babies_OWS.jpg)

I think he needs to prove this isn't factual

no problem

werewolves don't exist so the kids can't exist

on the contrary, Romneys tax returns are known to exist since Romney has admitted they exist so all we need is for him to release them to prove that Reid's assertions that he paid no taxes is false

I believe Romney paid no taxes and got caught cheating and then paid every penny he legally owed and not a penny more ....as he put it


Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: tonymctones on August 16, 2012, 08:30:01 PM
no problem

werewolves don't exist so the kids can't exist

on the contrary, Romneys tax returns are known to exist since Romney has admitted they exist so all we need is for him to release them to prove that Reid's assertions that he paid no taxes is false

I believe Romney paid no taxes and got caught cheating and then paid every penny he legally owed and not a penny more ....as he put it



I was told by an anonymous source that werewolves do exist, prove they dont.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: whork on August 17, 2012, 03:02:10 AM
I was told by an anonymous source that werewolves do exist, prove they dont.

You cant. However Romney CAN prove he paid taxes
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 17, 2012, 03:07:55 AM
You cant. However Romney CAN prove he paid taxes

Yeah, I'm sure the IRS just ignored him over ten years.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Kazan on August 17, 2012, 04:34:35 AM
You cant. However Romney CAN prove he paid taxes

No the burden is on you to prove they don't exist.....
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 17, 2012, 04:43:44 AM
No the burden is on you to prove they don't exist.....

The IRS apparently got fooled too. 
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Kazan on August 17, 2012, 04:48:08 AM
The IRS apparently got fooled too. 

Yeah I know, apparently we can just say anything we want with not one piece of evidence. An anonymous source.......
Don't look at the economy, nothing to see here, move along
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: blacken700 on August 17, 2012, 06:55:27 AM
The IRS apparently got fooled too. 

you think eveyone that cheats on thier taxes gets got  :D
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 17, 2012, 07:00:53 AM
you think eveyone that cheats on thier taxes gets got  :D

Nope! But, you'd think a guy who has run for president twice and for Mass. governor would have just a little more spotlight on him than others.

Yet, conveniently only when he runs against Obama and Obama is in trouble does Romney supposedly become a tax cheat. Only when Obama's had 8% unemployment for over three and half years and more people on food stamps than anyone in history does Romney become a tax cheat.  ::)
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Kazan on August 17, 2012, 07:02:01 AM
Nope! But, you'd think a guy who has run for president twice and for Mass. governor would have just a little more spotlight on him than others.

Yet, conveniently only when he runs against Obama and Obama is in trouble does Romney supposedly become a tax cheat. Only when Obama's had 8% unemployment for over three and half years and more people on food stamps than anyone in history does Romney become a tax cheat.  ::)

look into what happened to Jack Ryan here in IL when Obama was running for senate.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: blacken700 on August 17, 2012, 07:04:47 AM
it's not going to go away ;D
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 17, 2012, 07:06:10 AM
look into what happened to Jack Ryan here in IL when Obama was running for senate.

What a co-inky-dink!!! People who are somewhat decent suddenly become Satan-incarnate, when they face Obama in an election.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Kazan on August 17, 2012, 07:07:02 AM
What a co-inky-dink!!! People who are somewhat decent suddenly become Satan-incarnate, when they face Obama in an election.

Yeah, sealed records somehow get opened and released to the press
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 17, 2012, 07:07:09 AM
 
it's not going to go away ;D

And, it's not going to save Obama's hide.  ;D
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: dario73 on August 17, 2012, 07:24:11 AM
it's not going to go away ;D

It has gone away. Front and center is Biden's gaffes and Obama's plan to steal from medicare in order to pay obamacare.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 17, 2012, 07:27:36 AM
It has gone away. Front and center is Biden's gaffes and Obama's plan to steal from medicare in order to pay obamacare.

The left will keep dredging it up, because now Ryan and Romney are putting it to them on this Medicare thing.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: dario73 on August 17, 2012, 07:31:26 AM
The left will keep dredging it up, because now Ryan and Romney are putting it to them on this Medicare thing.
That's true. The left won't let it go.
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: MCWAY on August 17, 2012, 07:33:34 AM
That's true. The left won't let it go.

When their poster boy is wallowing in failure, what else is there for them?

Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: blacken700 on August 17, 2012, 08:47:18 AM
It has gone away. Front and center is Biden's gaffes and Obama's plan to steal from medicare in order to pay obamacare.

top story on all 3 of the major news networks,yeah i guess it's gone away ::),only simpletons think biden gaffes are top stories ;D
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 17, 2012, 08:50:19 AM
Hilarious - FAILbama can't run on his disastrous record of debt, defict, treason, decay, despair, blame, depression so they focus on this non issue. 
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: blacken700 on August 17, 2012, 08:55:57 AM
Hilarious - FAILbama can't run on his disastrous record of debt, defict, treason, decay, despair, blame, depression so they focus on this non issue. 




the same simpletons that think biden gaffes are top stories are the same simpletons that think the taxes are a non story ;D
Title: Re: President Obama's Camp On Romney’s Latest Tax Talk: Prove It
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 17, 2012, 08:58:31 AM




the same simpletons that think biden gaffes are top stories are the same simpletons that think the taxes are a non story ;D


Its not a story w biden since his being the biggest joke of a VP ever was evident from Day 1.   Its funny to still laugh at him though. 

Him and the gay communist he serves with are focusing on romenys' taxes because obama has no budget, has no plan, can't defend his record, and is a hapless fool like those who voted for him.